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@TheMilitantMazdakite

4 ай бұрын

Can you bring your old "can X survive in 40k" videos back?

His mistake was thinking a Khorne army actually care about objectives.

@MarkATorres1989

2 жыл бұрын

If he has any brain cells in the buttermilk, he would have realize that Khorne meant "Blood for the Blood God" not "Penalty Pin" Edited: Slight spelling error bit there, but yeah my point stands! Forward! Kill them all! Leave no cowards in their holes!

@CH3353N1NJ45

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkATorres1989 Blood for the Blood God, the only objective that Khorne care about.

@MarkATorres1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@CH3353N1NJ45 Ack! I misspelled! Damn auto-correction! Thanks fellow Khronite. Time to collect some skulls.

@kesegoe9488

2 жыл бұрын

Men helping men the emperor shall be proud

@CH3353N1NJ45

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkATorres1989 Consider the following:- The Red Cross Blood Bank is something that Khorne could get behind because it matters not from where it flows.

"I'd actually flip the table and choke him before I give in" spoken like a true korne player, respect.

@zephyrstrife4668

2 жыл бұрын

it is also true of a Kreigsman

@Capt.Bubsy1

Жыл бұрын

Read this as he said it. Legendary

@zambekiller

9 ай бұрын

​@@zephyrstrife4668na we'd not flip the table we'd grab the table and use it as an improvised shovel

The idea of a Bloodthirster being willing to sit inside a tank, let alone fit in it, is a really funny picture.

@CommissarGamza

4 ай бұрын

Haha, he used to possess the Sgt, and then bursts out from his body.

@chrisg8321

3 ай бұрын

Old school rules had your greater daemons burst out of a character or squad leader. So dude can fit before possession

Gamza: Here’re the intricate tactics that I used to beat this guy. Me, who’s never cracked a WH40K rule book: Hmmm. Yes.

@JohnDoe-wt9ek

Жыл бұрын

Its really not intricate. He just happened to luck out in choosing an army that has no regard for pinning. And pull a faux left flank maneuver with his most powerful unit and just ate the Guard alive in about 2 turns.

@enderfire3379

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-wt9ek i had that feeling

@Deas-Mhumhna

Жыл бұрын

Eh, I mean it can be. Tactics can be a simple or as intricate as you want them to be. Depends how flexible your units are. Many tactics are preexisting strategies used through history. We think its "easy" because we've never had to use them. But once you apply them to a war game or real life, where your not playing a computer and things can change on a dime. Then yeah, it can get pretty advanced. Also, its a lot easier to win when your opponent acts like a big baby. I bed it would be a whole different story if he was up against a competent player.

@tickledeggz

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, hes overplaying how good his gameplay actually was, the only real tactics described are the flanking manoeuvre into thhe back line, the 4th edition Chaos book (aka The kjhorne army list plus a some garbage) was broken, beyond broken even. That downside hhe described where the berzerkerss would loose their shooting phase to run at the nearest enemy was barely a downside, since berserkers were terrible at shhootigbut amazing in close combat. Andtbhh most ofthhepeople playing the list were basically the kind of people that pull off a completely low skill, highpower move ad the sit there with ashit eating grain like they've actually done something of note. (Yes its been over a decade and yes Im still pissed at GW for making every new book completely outpower everythhing else after this point.

@Goblinhandler

Жыл бұрын

@@tickledeggz your ass probably wasn’t even alive during 4th with how you type shit out

Remember kids: wargaming is supposed to be a gentleman's game. Act like one, or risk being a posterchild for the worst the hobby has to offer.

@jackmack4181

2 жыл бұрын

If it’s Gentlemen’s game, then what are the orks?

@freedom2663

2 жыл бұрын

Non GW person here. But let's be real. Gamers: a lot of anti social people, who don't bathe/take showers, and wear shirts they just wore the day before.

@wiggy5209

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to be a gentleman, you just need to wash yourself and not get angry ...

@Aaron-is8yt

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedom2663 mate, stop talking about yourself. Maybe go for a shower

@freedom2663

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaron-is8yt Touched too close to home? CRY MORE.

“Take a pinning test” after the tenth time “Okay” shakes dice, doesn’t roll them. “Okay I passed.”

@anonymous_user2346

Жыл бұрын

Bruh lmao

"Damn you Gimgam! How dare you outplay my gimmick army designed to never let my opponent even use their models!" Hard to believe that jerk was married. I felt bad for the lady.

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

I”ve seem worst and you would be surprised how many are actually married

@evilsworn2901

2 жыл бұрын

I felt bad for all the guys that probably lost to what amounts to a stun and poke to death strat. It's always shit to have one of those,but it's nice to have counters to them

@moodyowlproductions4287

11 ай бұрын

Other player*AHH loosen up ya bloody vaginall belch"

@Brian-WolfmanJack99

5 ай бұрын

As a former Imperial Guard player myself you really had to come up with creative ways to play your army. IG has really weak infantry.

If you make an army that is entirely meant to revolve around 1 mechanic, you just have to realize that if you play against an army that counters that mechanic, you are going to get crushed. It's very very simple. Plus, it really seemed he was projecting what he was doing onto Gamza. "Your army is broken and you're a cheese player" I'm sorry, but who's army is built around solely abusing a single mechanic that makes it impossible for the opponent to play the game?

@bobdole8830

Жыл бұрын

It's simple but effective. Back in WHFB time I played an high elf army list that was 90% on horseback. Back in those days your armies were 2000 points plus 500 points to switch arround before a game (without seeing your opponents army, at least i the tournaments I played at). No one expects cavallerie when playing against elves, so they all removed their counters for that and I won several tournaments in a row.

@UrielVentris1984

Жыл бұрын

its pretty hard to pin marines even in that old edition anyway, tacky rule.

@tbone9474

Жыл бұрын

It's what counters are supposed to do

@tbone9474

Жыл бұрын

It's what counters are supposed to do

@Nerobyrne

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I dunno why he raged so much. Whenever I play any build in a game that revolves around one mechanic, I always know that if my opponent plays X, I'm gonna get stomped. Sure, sometimes you can plan for it, but in some cases you just have to realize that you're gonna lose some.

I wouldn't mind seeing more story's like this from you, dude. You could make it a series. Something like "Storytime with Commisar Gamza." or "Tales from the game store."

@vaxus3440

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, more gamza stories pls

@marky437

2 жыл бұрын

Tales from the Game Store - cool title

@Nononononon111

2 жыл бұрын

Tales from the game story upvote

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

That would be hilarious to hear, cause it’s possibly the funniest things I would tell my coworkers

@boku5192

2 жыл бұрын

Oooorr... maybeee.. MORALE RESTORED

That reminds me of two stories. 1- Guy with popular army list straight from the internet. Beat him because I knew his army list, strategy, and counters so I knew his army better than he did. 2- As above, but with actual tableflipping.

@brandonhughes4571

2 жыл бұрын

I want to hear about those stories

@greyknighttexan3299

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah me too

@charlesmatthews9645

Жыл бұрын

Please tell

@dhwwiiexpert

Жыл бұрын

Pray tell.

@Nerobyrne

Жыл бұрын

oh yeah we get those in TCG games all the time. They're called "Netdeckers" because they just buy a deck that won the last tournament. Problem with that is two-fold. 1. Everyone who is worth anything knows what decks won the last big tournament and are at least somewhat prepared for it. 2. You're a whole season behind on the meta. Always funny to watch them rage at why their perfect OP deck isn't winning ^.^

Ah yes, the military objective is a decorative fountain. That planet's water supply must be quite dire. This truly is the darkest of timelines.

@Raptor-yo7ir

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta keep the fluids up to purge Xenos and Heretics ya feel? Emperor demands it.

@jaimayy

2 жыл бұрын

It was Baja blast

It sounds like he was just mad that his mortar cheese strat didn’t work. He got so used to winning purely based off of that that he didn’t know what to do against a full counter army :)

@lazerhosen

2 жыл бұрын

The player either didn't know other armies because nobody at his FLGS played them, or he knew the rules of other armies and soft-cheated all his local gamers by making them take pinning tests they didn't need to... it's just sad when people expect that to work at a tournament. I think most people who have ever played more than a handful of games have faced someone like this. Heck, the first day my brother and I played in a new shop when we moved to Florida, my brother forgot his Eldar/Craftworld codex (3rd edition), the dude didn't believe a rule my brother used, so my brother went to the shelf, took a retail copy of whichever Codex/supplement, and showed him the rule. When dude knew he was losing, he intentionally cheated by misusing his own rules, so my brother quoted, verbatim, his own army's rule and corrected him. Suffice to say my brother won fair and square (even though he had to force the fairness). The dude was like in his mid 40s, had been to GTs, lost to an 18 y/o, threw a hissy-fit, packed up his army in a hurry, and stormed out.

Buttermilk Bob: TAkE A pINniNG TesT!!1! Captain Gomaz: We don't do that here.

@amazinghayes1

2 жыл бұрын

Butterball Bob: TaKE a PiNiNinG tEsT! Sir, this is a Wendy's.

Had a similar incident happen in Age of Sigmar. I was playing Bonereapers. My opponents army was built around fear bombing, with units that lowered bravery, weapons that lowered bravery, artifacts that lowered bravery, and spells that lowered bravery. He kept stating this when we started, how he was gonna make “those skeletons run home crying to mommy.” The very first turn, he told me to take a Battleshock test, and I promptly informed him that Ossiarch Bonereapers don’t take Battleshock Tests. I’m not sure how he didn’t know that huge defining trait of our army. He was flabbergasted. And kept saying, as I was destroying him, “I would beat you so easy if your army took Battleshock tests.” I spent 25 years in the infantry and finally had enough and said. ‘If if if. If your momma had a cock and balls, she’d be your dad.” He just shut up and lost, and refused to shake my hand, then reported me for cheating because I refused to take Battleshock tests. They laughed at him.

@yuvalgabay1023

2 жыл бұрын

What a chad

@volengocphuvo6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuvalgabay1023 wtf do yo mean by that ?

@yuvalgabay1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@volengocphuvo6984 that's the story taller is a chad

@volengocphuvo6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuvalgabay1023 oh I thought you were talking about the salty guy

@stormisuedonym4599

2 жыл бұрын

... But undead have been immune to fear for literal decades.

The last tournament I played in was back in early 2010. 16 players. 4 rounds. I was playing my Tau army, comprising a leader in a crisis suit, 6 crisis suits, a single broadside suit, and about 40 fire warriors. I didn't think the list was overpowered at all; just stuff I enjoyed playing. I lost every battle I played in, and in 3 battles, I was tabled by my opponent. Regardless, I had a very fun time, and only one of my opponents was a douchebag. Fast forward to the winner announcement, and I was named 1st place. Apparently, regardless of my lack of victories, I amassed enough points in the Painting, Army Selection, and Sportsmanship categories to win the tournament. So it's not always winning the games that count.

@killercreek450

Жыл бұрын

thats a great way to do it. there are many facets to the hobby, and its nice to reward people for excelling in things other than Op armies

@casedistorted

Жыл бұрын

The ultimate participation trophy! I love it

@atrailofblood

Жыл бұрын

my friend let me use models to make a proxy for necrons as I had no money in the game but he wanted to play with me so I made a necron army using his chaos models lol. what makes me bring this up is he used I think pretty much the exact Tau army. he crisis suits had all these lil drones that ate up shots n stuff. my army was I think 2 immortal squads, a flayed squad, a fuck ton of warriors and a monolith and a necron lord with res orb and... phase.. something? man I dont remember but anyways. his broadsides one shot my monolith basically, all of my self repair rolls failed and I just got decimated but it was still a lot of fun. that was my first and last time I ever played. if I wasnt a poor bitch I would love to have my own army to paint n play with

@clementconstantin7473

Жыл бұрын

Damn dude you lose all the battles but won the war anyway

When I played tabletop I lost more than I won. Tactically inept. However I always appreciated the game and enjoyed it. There were times I nearly had a victory but a few bad dice rolls and my opponent took it. Seeing their joy was enough for me.

@zephyrstrife4668

2 жыл бұрын

sometimes it's fun to do what the DM in an RPG does, bring the players into tough challenges, only to have luck and strategy win the day for the heroes. Having a close battle in a wargame can be just as fun.

@sethkeown5965

2 жыл бұрын

same. played nids then spacewolfs. had no clue that nids were for foder and wolves were bat swingers.

@IAmTheStig32

Жыл бұрын

Most competitive Ork player.

@thecoolestofthe834s2

10 ай бұрын

How can you get off on others joy tf

@19822andy

10 ай бұрын

@@thecoolestofthe834s2 I wouldn't say I got off on it but it was nice to see them beaming when we talked about the battle after. It was never a competitive power game, just a game with pals. I had fun and so did they. What is the point of saltiness after a board game?

Butterball: Brings cheap motar army that relies on pinning down squads. Gamza and Khorne: aight bet

@Macharius89

2 жыл бұрын

dude, i play with the guard, and even i know that is a idiocity to try to pin down bersekers. Basilisks, autocannons, heavy bolters... being shortly, a fucking lot of fire is the only way. That player was a dumbass.

@ThatKiwiDudeTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Macharius89 💯

@danmorgan3685

2 жыл бұрын

How many 40k armies are immune to psychology or have major elements that are? This guy built a cheese army that was very niche and tried to bully his way to victory.

It seems like Buttermilk Bob found a cheese that worked for him, and then Gamza found the Chaos Cheese knife. Great video, and moral of the story, unbreakable units are a must have.

@andykopach4718

2 жыл бұрын

Or units that can take objectives instead of taking one of the strongest killing units in that current game, and then confused why you can’t hold objectives in a competitive mission.

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

A classic problem in games where you max out your ability to do one thing and then encounter something immune to it. That reminds me of some funny mobs in Netherstorm "World of Warcraft" that aquired immunity to whatever you first attacked them with. Playing a mage against them I quickly learned to start out with my weaker backup spells.

@Stormseer88

2 жыл бұрын

@JP8POL More like the "Cheese Chainaxe" amirite!

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

If you think that’s bad, try playing as the T’au and constantly winning against those guys, I remember once this guy actually *THREW* something at me when I was dominating in a game

@JP8POL

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, you have to realize you'll lose from time to time. Heck, sometimes you'll lose a ton on an off day.

The only pinning tests I took in 4th and 5th were "How well pinned are your metal models? Do the arms fall off your models when you throw it at me because you get so frustrated with my Orks being fearless and not taking pinning tests and you have to shoot 180 of them to win?" GREEN TIDE FTW!

@Idontknow-vm1iy

Жыл бұрын

Lol orks r da best too troll da hummies

I bet he went and built a Khorne army afterwards 😂

@platinumchromee3191

2 жыл бұрын

Just to get sniped later

@charlesmatthews9645

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@laerte5983

10 ай бұрын

@@platinumchromee3191 he was agains’t a tau player later in 7th ed

that man's wife must have the patience of a literal saint.

@johnball3934

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds more like she lived in mortal fear of his temper tantrums.

@chrisbfreelance

2 жыл бұрын

Her married life is probably very toxic and miserable.

@InfiniteBoxworks

2 жыл бұрын

She's definitely been choked before...

@badasscustodes1697

2 жыл бұрын

Saint buttermilks wife

His Mistake was using a single bs tactic without checking all the faction codex's to make sure its actually usable on the army he's facing. like his mortar pin strat is genius but he didn't read the chaos codex and didn't know they were immune to it. so whilst he was good he didn't do his homework and lost as a result. and that is why you always mix it up and do you're research kids

@marclytle644

2 жыл бұрын

I met lots of people that never read any codex other than their armies. I had all of them. I wanted to know what they were capable of so I could call out people trying to cheat. One guy liked to cheat and I called him out hard. Store was out of that armies codex... chaos (40k) and he did not have his on him. I had mine. He calmed down after that and started playing fairly. Actually was a decent player after that.

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

As much as I hate to read those codex, I do do it for the game and even go as far as too write down key information to pull out during a game to show that it is something in book, even to help other players that are getting bullied by Buttermilk Bob’s

@edvonrattlehead2135

2 жыл бұрын

Single trick pony armies don't cut it on the broader games, fine speciallize ur army for a start that can win 9 times outta 10, but remember to always have units that can save your ass on that 1 time you face a hard counter.

@ArturoSaSerenamoun

2 жыл бұрын

@@marclytle644 who goes to play an army and doesn´t have the codex on him? The Codex is not that heavy of an extra burden, when you transport the Miniatures from a to b. i´m playing necrons and even as simple as they basically were back then with their first codex, i still had to look up some things just to be sure, that they work as i remembered (plus proving to the other guy, that i´m right ^^). And since i usually did play with friends, who i knew for some times, we did exchange codizes, so we were at least informed about the basics of every faction

@jessicamason2526

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArturoSaSerenamoun someone who dosnt care about the rules and likes to cheat appearntly

That guy would've lost to a razorback company. Lascannons take out his armour and don't take pinning tests because they're in vehicles. One trick pony man gets his trick undone, poor player.

i can see him being frustrated as his whole theme seems to have been pinning and your immune to it. but yeah, his behavior....just bad. eventually your gonna face an army that counters your tactic, gotta adapt or accept it.

@albertoencinar95

2 жыл бұрын

Especially if you use a lame strategy and get fuuucked because someone counter you

@Nyxcha

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertoencinar95 i wouldnt say its lame as it apparently worked up to then but it was without flexibility and so he had no way to do anything once 1 part of it failed

@albertoencinar95

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyxcha thats pretty much a lame strategy

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

While this guys strategy was sound, he clearly threw strategy when Gamza couldn’t get pinned and kept getting more angry… Now that I think about the same thing kinda happened to someone else I was play next too

@nahuelkid

2 жыл бұрын

I mean its an OTP strat it was just a bad army

The bob’s strategy was actually really good but he just didn’t take into account the fearless units and was inflexible because he’s salty as fuck

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

You think the guy would have went on a rampage if Gamza used T’au and just snipped him into oblivion? Because it happened to me more then once

@robingraves9517

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man,,I play Chaos these days. Infact a coupe weekends ago we had a new guy show up in the group playing space marines. He had a good strat going. He used space marine scouts ( a few squads) , a razorback and a predator both armed with las cannons. The scouts were snipers. The prick picked me off at distance. I guess he had my number lol

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, sniping is a good strategy for someone who has common sense, something everyone literally sans the T’au dose in universe

@adamcline8728

2 жыл бұрын

The Bob's strategy was actually really bad, especially for the vintage of 4th edition that the story takes place. Most factions had easy means of doling out Fearless en masse by that point. The most shocking part of this story was the idea that this guy had won 2 previous games with one of the weakest Guard gunlines I've ever heard of.

@garethjohn4299

Жыл бұрын

@@adamcline8728 Even an army that wasn't fearless could have heavily reduced the impact of pinning by just using transports. And, as you say, his gunline sounds weak so the transports would probably make it across. His army would have lost a shootout to a 3.5 Iron Warriors list.

Back in the day, when GW tournaments were held in University buildings, I went to one in Leicester. My first and only tourney. I was playing WFB, high elves. My second match was vs skeletons. Screaming skull catapults, bone chariots and necromancer. Dans macabre era. Cut a long story short My 2nd turn I bolt throwered his general to death. Now, in those days if your necro died, skeletons fell to pieces. He NEVER heard of that rule, which was in his army book, and demanded a ref to come over. Judicator agreed with me and He had to roll for each unit.He failed all but 1 test and had to remove all but 1 wight unit. RAGE QUIT. He was in his 50s and looked like a stereotypical history nerd. Being a uni student I never expected this attitude from an older opponent.

@deplorabledegenerate2630

Жыл бұрын

How far back is back in the day? There's a certain generation of people that deservedly have 'baby' in their name who really don't like being corrected, especially by people younger (and therefore dumber) than they are.

@andywilson5828

Жыл бұрын

@Deplorable Degenerate it was 1996 and he was in his late 50s or early 60s

@deplorabledegenerate2630

Жыл бұрын

@@andywilson5828 Sad to hear a silent generation guy did this.

This dude is the example of what happens when you build your army around a situational gimmick. It is fun and all to play as, as long as it works. It is probably annoying to play against to anyone affected. And it gets obliterated by anything that negates the gimmick.

"I can't remember the exact units in my army, but it was red and edgy." Gotta say I was lucky when I was playing 40k and Fantasy in that the group I played in were actually all really nice guys to play with. I never entered the big tournaments but when I did I got to see some of the other assholes from around the area, including a guy throwing his dice across the floor in anger lol Turns out before I started playing there had been a pretty major split in the tabletop community in my town, and two clubs had formed. Dice thrower was from the other club and it did seem those guys had a few more of big ego players in them.

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you have to be careful of those guys because there’s a lot of them and they get angry too easily when things don’t go their way, especially if your playing T’au because that’s a problem for most apparently

...Rude. Seriously one of the foundational tenets of tabletop gaming is 'be polite.' You can absolutely HATE the other guy but, be polite.

@Marinealver

2 жыл бұрын

Don't hate the guy, hate his OP codex.

@singletona082

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marinealver Well I dislike this buttermilk bob for relying on a single gimmick to carry him 'PEN! PEN! ROLL FOR PEN!' And was having a match long meltdown when he was facing someone who's army literally gives that gimmick the finger..

@combinecommando001

2 жыл бұрын

@@singletona082 You can be a single trick pony, but if you do, don't be surprised when someone happens to one up you because their trick is made to beat yours. That's why it's important to be able to adapt on the fly if things don't go your way, that's how strategy works, failing that, well, you lose the war.

I feel bad for the dudes wife. 100% he took all his frustration out on her when he got home. Sounds like a weak minded individual. Can't have a weak mind fight chaos! They will consume you lmao. Great video, way more interesting then I thought it was going to be! Thanks

@YourXavier

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly that's what happened. He couldn't control his temper because Khorne was getting in his head.

@joshindermuehle1579

Жыл бұрын

She hates going, so they have a deal that when he loses, she gets to peg him extra hard.

@azure_rhythm

9 ай бұрын

@@joshindermuehle1579had me dying at work with this comment 😂

@valcanoman1829

2 ай бұрын

Chaos is known to corrupt weak minded people.

My Dad, before I was born, was a big Warhammer guy. He’s getting back into it since I’m getting into now as well, but that’s besides the point. He told me his experience with a shitty player: They were both playing Imperial Guard, but this guy was just being an ass. My Dad lost, but at the point it got to he didn’t care. This guy basically took about 35 minutes to do one thing, and without fail he took like an hour to play his turn. What set him off was when: He had a bunch of Heavy Guns and had been wrecking my dad’s tanks. About one was barely alive, had lost its main gun, all that fun stuff. This guy then deploys Rough Riders to harass and destroy my Dad’s back lines. He was stupid and deployed them at the edge of the board, so my Dad tank blitzes them right off it. This dude was so pissed because his whole strategy was fucked up, he rated my Dad as low as possible on everything for his experience, my Dad didn’t even do that despite this guy obviously deserving it

An Imperial Commissar using a Chaos army? HERASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In all seriousness though, this dude was just rude. Yeah, I've lost matches in my time, including several to the Tau Devilfish of Fury. Yet I've sucked it up and shook hands every time.

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there is no shame in losing a game, as long as you have fun is what counts

@AKUJIVALDO

2 жыл бұрын

I think you meant: HEARSAY!!!! LOL

The guy sounds like a hypocrite. He complains about your build being unfair and op while his entire strategy seemed to focus on 1 cheap tactic. I admittedly never played the tabletop but isn't making your army have a back up plan incase the first one fail possible?

@zero5496

2 жыл бұрын

Thing is he’s just those casual cheesy player that don’t know about other races or even other tactics other than some cheesy tactic that only works in specific situations, we old players know every race in ever edition in order to know how to counter every possible cheesy build

@andykopach4718

2 жыл бұрын

@@zero5496 lmao the one of the best ways to counter bezerkers was driving a rhino in front of them.

@andtheinternettkills

2 жыл бұрын

Complaining about competitive builds in a tournament 😂

@LordGotrek

2 жыл бұрын

Well i play Ork soo what the "plan" you are talking about?

@MouldMadeMind

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordGotrek rolling sixes

THE BLOODTHIRSTER LOOKS LIKE MY GRANDPA AFTER SNORTING THE NO-NO SNOW-

@BloodRaven744

2 ай бұрын

Pffftt! Bruh

I can hear here from across space and time... "DAMN YOU GAMZA, YOU SUNNOVABITCH!"

9:34 I don't think he was trying to intimidate he was more likely trying to gaslight you into thinking that oh mortars=I have to take pinning test when that shit don't work on Berzerkers

Almost as bad as when i was a kid and went to a yugioh tournament a 20 something litteraly took one of my cards and ripped it in half mid game because he had like 500 lp left to my 2000

@lydiamourningstar2028

2 жыл бұрын

Damn dude really thought he was Kaiba

@osets2117

2 жыл бұрын

Was he banned after that? You don't straight up destroy someone else's stuff just because you're losing, what a prick

@orien3582

2 жыл бұрын

@@osets2117 he wasnt banned or anything because he was bros with one of the refs who if the people in the tables next to me minded there shit the ref wouldve said he won but my mom saw that shit and played with me while dudes around the nearby table spoke up after watching what happened and i dont really know what happened to the guys over yelling i was crying over the loss of my catapult turtle to which people started like offering cards and packs from one of the counters when things calmed down but i just wanted to go home and tape it back together so next game i just let myself get beaten even tho it was pretty clear he was trying his best to get me to play i was done i had to much goin on at the time and what happened with my card just made me sad and my mom took me to her house and i just layed there for the rest of the weekend

@osets2117

2 жыл бұрын

@@orien3582 what a bastard, no excuse for that kind of behavior tearing up another person's stuff

@lydiamourningstar2028

2 жыл бұрын

@@osets2117 especially considering it was a grown ass adult doing it to a literal CHILD

I had a similar experience during a tourney several years ago myself. My playing Death Guard with some IW-Khornate allies vs a mishmashed minimaxed Sisters and IG force. Guy cheated his arse off and every time he tried doing something (with cheating), he failed and I then handed his ass to him. He'd fail to use tape measures to move his units, he failed to 'remember' rules that could hurt him. It almost came to blows as he threatened me when I started to hose a vet squad unit with 3 melta guns that parachuted in (without him rolling for deviation) and failed to kill off a damaged vindy with only a combi-flamer left on it. I hosed his unit and he started arguing over 1 model. 'You only hit 8, not 9, out of the unit of 10!' Tourney organizers got called in. Was epic. He was the type of guy who gloated over his past wins, playing with an unpainted army, and was trying to be 'nice' when he was winning. But when he lost troops, he'd pick them up and toss them forcefully into boxes and gripe. Poor sport, poor loser and he cheated his past opponents out of games during the tourney too. I was a regular who ritually won best painted and best general (etc)...except for best sportsmanship because that was an award to the guys to took it up the ass and never complained...not to people who won all the time.

@valcanoman1829

2 ай бұрын

This is show that it is the felt of the general in the imperium. It’s play old fashioned hubris.

"your army OP and cheese" says the man that relies entirely on PINNING TESTS to win.. of course he's gonna get slaughtered if he fights something that actually doesn't care! Who is trying to cheese again?

The lesson of this story is that if you act like an asshole, people are totally allowed to make fun of how you act AND look. Thank you, Gamza -Edit: I would also like to add that I remember these stupid "pinning" rules too. One of the reasons I loved fearless troops. His army comp WASN'T a bad idea in theory: Pin enemy till they can't see straight> push Guardsman forward> enemy army is essentially pinned to death> tanks go brrrrrr> win. Your army of fearless lunatics HARD-countered the entire battle plan his army was built on and he had NO backup plan. Add to that he was a big baby, had a wife or w/e who sadly must have been used to him getting mad really easy, and the battle of the mid was lost pretty much on turn two onwards. Even if you bumb-rushed him you probably would have won anyway lol

Had the same thing happen to me with a titan player in 8th ed. It was codex ed Tua vs the new titan army he was so mad that he couldn't table me. Every time I killed a model he bit hed and complained about how my army was OP. We tied in the end he had a warhound titan with 1 wound left I had Shadow sun a unit of fire warriors and an ethereal left.

I think his army was designed around the enemy taking a pinning test so you had the perfect counter which apparently pissed him off

If I get mad at something it's at myself for not being prepared for the enemy, shake the hand and say gg kids

Khorne: what’s a pinning test? Oh that flinch thing you silly mortals do…. Oooh yeah we don’t care about that, this is a fight

The reason Gamza never saw that guy again is he died of a heart attack outside the event...his last words was quoted from the ending of star Trek 2..... KHARNNNNNN!... 💯% true.

@davidfarrer4332

2 жыл бұрын

Followed by "Damn you Gamza!" :)

“Everyone may make a mistake. However that mistake does not become an error until someone refuses to correct it” Not the exact quote I’m sure, but Thrawn wouldn’t approve.

@badasscustodes1697

2 жыл бұрын

KILL THRAWN THAT XENO HERITIC WILL DIE AND I WILL BE THE ONE TO DO IT

When life gives you mortars, take a pinning test

@Marinealver

2 жыл бұрын

The ground is exploding, we must find BLOOD!

@jeremybk54

2 жыл бұрын

Khorne: fuck pinning tests i'm not taking any World Eaters: yeah, what he said

Wait until gamza pull out his chaos custodes

It's always fun destroying Guard players. Especially as a DE player.

@stormisuedonym4599

2 жыл бұрын

"Don't worry, they're just taking your dudes back for some kinky fun."

@IAmTheStig32

Жыл бұрын

"How many flamers did you bring for this game? *None?*" [evil laugh]

bro said “my spitfire hoodie” and magnus’d a warp-sized hole in my brain into the past

This makes me wonder... What would have been the trolliest, weirdest Imperial Guard army one could reasonably build? Bonus points for minimal price.

@MouldMadeMind

2 жыл бұрын

Ratlings only!

@musikforkveld

2 жыл бұрын

This edition? Hard to say. Perhaps 12 x 30 conscripts. Which would cost 1800 points. And 200 points for hqs buffing them. That gives you 360 objective secured wounds. Cant see him take any objectives from you... Should swamp many, but prob not all, opponents.

@justinweber4977

2 жыл бұрын

@@musikforkveld Well, that and the ratlings at least sound entertaining to run. Which is really the important part.

@musikforkveld

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinweber4977 you can only field 30 ratlings because of the rule of three. They are not troops. So you cant reasonably build it. You can however take 9 hell hounds and 9 devil dogs for about 1800 points and swamp your opponent with some hq and two troop choices for camping home objectives.

@minimalbstolerance8113

2 жыл бұрын

I know this guy who used to run Forge World DKOK in 5th ed. His army was basically built around a Medusa siege howitzer gunline. He used the towed artillery version as A: they were something like 30pts cheaper each because they couldn't move without a Centaur tug, and he had no intention of moving, and B: you could take them in batteries of up to 3 for one HS slot. 9 STR 10 AP2 large blasts landing on the enemy per turn.

Later that night his wife pegged him as he cried into his pillow "damn you Gamza!!!"

In my headcanon, his long-suffering wife is basically his mommy. "No, no, little Bobby. You can't flip the table just because your little army men lost." I like that much better than... well, what their relationship was probably like.

For those who care, I believe we had a few extra units within our armies but the specifics escape me. as I don't think they played much of a role in the game. EDIT: The terrain that I won got destroyed in a move, but I posted up a pic of it in my Discord. It's nothing too crazy, just a rune stone in the middle of a circle. THANK YOU! for everyone who has donated to the channel! you guys are EPIC! If you too would also like to chip in you can do so here: paypal.me/GamzaCrusade?locale.x=en_US Regardless! thank you for watching and commenting!

@missyummy1040

2 жыл бұрын

YOU SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!!!~ 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 (what's your thoughts of Kumagawa Misogi and Medaka Kurokami in the world of W.H.40k?)

@itsyaboidaniel2919

2 жыл бұрын

That's because you have amnesia.

@brandonaughtman9091

2 жыл бұрын

You know what Gamza? I want to write you a story. That's right, today at work, after watching some of your videos I get all these ideas. That's right! Commissar Gamza story time. What do you say?

@mr.rousseau.4655

2 жыл бұрын

Examples of things GW ripped off please.

@horusrage

2 жыл бұрын

Some people just can't take the loss. I bet he built his army around the pinning idea & didn't bother checking if there were any counters.

I have a super milar story but not on WH40K- Battletech. The game store I used to play at hosted an ongoing Battletech campaign, with unit repair, different mission types, persistent damage and the need to stay on top of logistics throughout the campaign. It was a lot of fun. We started out with something like 7-8 different companies but by the middle of the campaign they had consolidated into 3 main groups. One was lead by a guy named Orson, and he was the organizer for the overall campaign. In general a pretty nice guy but way to smug about his Battletech game knowledge. His main tactic was to take his mech- an Archer which is a long range missile boat- and park it on a rise or cliff on edge of the map. If anyone charged him or he started taking damage he would just reverse his mech- off the map, thereby disengaging and preventing any major damage to his mech-. It was highly frustrating. The company I played in basically accepted an assassination mission to wipe out his command lance. Ours was the weakest of the three remaining companies but thanks to some strategic victories we had a ton of credits and resources. I talked my CO into letting me customize my mech- a Warhammer- normally a medium range fighter- into a close range variant with jump jets. I had played against Orson a few times and I knew his tactics and he knew- or thought he knew- what my mech- could do. We were playing in the most basic version of Battletech- all Inner Sphere, no clan tech. Modifications were hugely expensive and almost no one made drastic changes- but we had credits to burn. So the game starts and Orson works his way up- very slowly- to a cliff on the corner of the map. Just as he's in position my lance and I charged his location- fainting an attack at the other members of Orson command lance, who had all taken up positions in water to better use their high heat guns. I worked my way around the outside of the main fight- still fighting the way anyone familiar with a Warhammer would fight- until I was just a couple of hexes away from Orson's Archer. Now with the movement rules in Battletech to reach that cliff would normally take at least 2-3 turns as it was surrounded by steep cliffs, rocky terrain and heavy forests. Orson isn't paying too much attention to me because I didn't have line of site to attack him and I didn't- normally- have enough movement points to reach him quickly. That's where the jump jets come in. In Battletech jump jets can ignore elevation level at or under their total move- 4 points in this case. Orson was on a 3 high cliff- so no problem. On the next turn I had initiative meaning he moved first- and he chose not to move at all- making it much easier for him to hit targets, but so very easy to be shot. Again, he was expecting the terrain to protect him- until I jumped in right behind him. The shock on his face was legendary. Not only was I then attacking him from where his armor was the weakest, he had even moved 2 medium lasers that normally face the rear of the Archer to protect from just this kid and of attack to face forwards, leaving him completely vulnerable. Meanwhile I had ditched most of my mechs wide assortment of medium range weapons for medium lasers and machine be guns. Orson knew what was coming and tried to torso twist his mechs body away from me to try and protect his vulnerable bits- and it resulted in a rules debate that had to be settled with the books- it was clear the torso twist did not effect hit facing- the mechs feet was the only deciding factor, so he was dead caught. I only hit with about half of my attacks but stripped about half of the rear armor away that turn. Next turn he won initiative, so he made me move first- which I did by standing still. He thought he was just going to walk around me and off the back of the map- but he had to change facing to do that and the rough terrain caused him to spend too many points just taking a single step- so he ended up one hex over, still facing away from me. He forgot he couldn't move thru an enemy occupied hex. I proceeded to forcefully remind him that his rear armor was toast, scoring some critical that knocked out half of his weapons. Next turn he had to choose from trying to escape again by backing off the map or moving forward off the cliff and take some massive fall damage. He chose to leave and was able to make it off the board. I didn't score a kill against him that day but he was salty as all hell over that. He tried to introduce rules to prevent hiding enemy load outs but that was shot down by the other players real quick. We had one more game in the campaign and Orson pulled the same trick again but backed off the map real early when he was targeted by some other players who tried to use my tactics against him. His company lost that fight and lost some major resources too- like a mech repair facility and a dropship. After that he never wanted to play again. It was too bad, aside from him being a smug coward that was a very fun campaign.

I feel really sorry for this guy's wife.

@billcasey9672

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she's joining him to support him, the guys an unsporting killjoy to her and his competition! This said, it seems that gamza started the show rather rudely as well. He was better than his competition, but rude. Why wouldn't he think that his attitude wouldn't draw counter attitude, if not skilled attitude. This is a victory for a Man of God?

I love your high tech battle simulation software. You should use it more often. But for real though.....this was a great story. Quite funny. Thanks for sharing :)

I once played against a Rules Lawyer. That was “Fun”. I was using Nids against his guard. I would sometimes use Genestealers in a Anti-Tank role. Which they were surprisingly effective at. So I hit one of his Chimeras with the Stealers, he hadn’t moved, so it was a bunch of auto hits. Got a few sixes with rending claws. So that was str4+6=10, chimera rear armour was 10. Rending claws got an additional D3 when attacking Tanks. But because of the whole both values being ten, I just said that they were pens. The RL just looked at me and said I should roll my D3s. I stated there was no point, I have effectively penned. I was stubborn and refused to roll. So much so a Marshall had to come over, and sided with me.

I had someone laying similar to this in a game of command in mtg. 4 guys, myself, a buddy, and 2 random guys. Dude was just being a dick to my friend and the other random. He brought an entire deck around not letting others play the game. I was running a deck where I could just choose stuff to die when my commander attacked, I also had a lot of enchantment and counter spell hate in it. This dude actually flipped the table when I killed his commander and wiped his enchantments. Got himself banned from all stores in the area.

I know this character is probably going to do extremely well given his feats but just to be sure how well could the Demi Fiend from Shin Megami Tensei do in Warhammer 40k?

@PeteTheGrouch

2 жыл бұрын

You're asking the wrong question... It's not "could Demi-fiend survive 40k?" Rather, it's more a case of "could 40k survive him..?!"

@yunocchiyuphoria1778

2 жыл бұрын

demi fiend wins the great game and becomes the true chaos god

@billcasey9672

2 жыл бұрын

@@yunocchiyuphoria1778 and can never depend on room service again.

I've been pretty lucky after reading you, guys, never had a problem, many people told me advices when I've lost and congrats me after a winning, some of them gave up when they saw it was a lost cause and was useless to keep playing the match. And I played 3rd edtion guard, so I was basically trash over a green field most times.

@doctorcorvus1319

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t worry about it, it happens more often then you would think, as long as you had fun with what you got that’s all that matters… I think? Most just hate me for the T’au half the time

@thecoolestofthe834s2

10 ай бұрын

​@@doctorcorvus1319cause you probably spam what ever new trash gw makes for them or what ever is the most meta like most tau players stop min maxing and have fun

The only time I've complained during a game is when I played my Imperial Knights against my friends Necrons in a league game. I wholly expected to lose as I told him constantly that knights are weak in 9th ed. It took me about 4 months to fully buy and assemble the 5 model army. The entire time I was doing that I was hearing about how broken knights are and how easily it's going to be for me to roll any player with them. Yeah right lol. Constantly told him that that would be easy for me to decimate a unit of powerful models or one big model. We get into the game and I lose the roll for first turn, that turn two of my knights are half healthed and one is half that profile because of C'tan power, so first turn that knight is hitting on 5+ instead of 3+. I told him he won primarily because of first turn priority. If knights go second that could be the difference of first turn with 5 models or second turn with 3 models. At this point I really can't even move my units because of the giant silver mass in my way (we were playing on a 4x4 table) so I was essentially pinned in my deployment zone. On my first turn I manage to destroy a couple units. A squad of 10 immortals and Skopehk destroyers. At this point I was already salty because all I heard about from him was how overpowered knights are how he's going to lose to them. On his second turn his King and Void Dragon take down two questor knights leaving me with a dominus and two warglaives. On my second turn I don't kill anything in his army. Third turn comes around and both my warglaives are gone leaving me with my Dominus at half wounds. And he says to me, "you can concede at any time." Right there that triggered me a bit because I put up with so much complaining about Knights being strong up until he kills my two questors. So I'm in full salt mode because the person that did all the complaining is now telling me that I can concede if I wish. I was losing the game off objective control anyway so I conceded. I still shook his hand and we play games every week. The thing that triggered me the most was him saying, "I don't know why you're complaining this bad" after I told him I knew going into this game that it was a loss for me and that losing first turn priority was the nail in the coffin.

I took starwars armada for serious at launch. The dodana build that let you bypass shields and deliver a crit to the hull (if I remember properly) was op. And of course I tested it out at a tourney with a heavy fighter fleet. I had one game where I had to keep explaining to my opponent, in detail, why and what was happening. Not including some other rules he tried to tell me I was very wrong about. Eventually we had to call a judge over to clarify and explain that we were playing properly. The judge hung out for a bit and caught my opponent doing a few illegal moves (stuff I wasn't 100% on still) and confronted my opponent. The yelling got loud enough that a few others had walked over with popcorn in hand. My opponent decided that following the rules were for babies and just packed up and left. The store gave me the option of take points for stuff I already killed OR take 50% fleet value as points following the usual forfeit or disco rules (it was a house tourney) I had to settle for the half fleet cost which was only a few points ahead. I was well on my way to clearing the map of his ships and could have easily gotten the full fleet points... which is why the other guy just noped out. Denying me points that would ultimate cause me to tie for 2nd instead of competing for 1st I forget the guys name now but at the time I was seething. I did get a bonus "sorry for your luck" prize from the store cause they understood what had gone on. I wish I had the income to continue to collect sw armada. :( great video tho!

Funny enough if it was an ork player you probably woulda had a great ol time. Never met a salty ork player. They just happy to stomp and get stomped.. 😂

@talgazit2224

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the orks personality rubbed off on them

@pinoarias8601

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf I got really salty once when my 10 man unit of Flash Gitz (half my army) got slaughtered by my buddy's obliterators. I kept playing and ended up having fun and apologizing, but I swear I persobally failed my morale test when my beautiful gitz got krumped. Haven't been salty since tho, and my gitz keep getting stomped.

@badasscustodes1697

2 жыл бұрын

Never played table top but I would like to at some point

That was a beautiful game. I would've laughed if that happened to me. God that sounds like a fun time. To see a trait like that be used to it's logical conclusion.

Really new to the game side of the hobby, but one game I had I was pit up against Eldar at 1500 point. I play Space Wolves successors and the guy obliterated my board, and it was genuinely hilarious. My lads had 0 chance of survival by the 2nd turn

This is better then a normal battlereports. More please!

The only peeps I really bug me are the ones that waste a lot of time trying to be rules lawyers

That was actually thoroughly enjoyable. And I've got to say, your delivery is hysterical. I've seen a lot of channels where guys try to be funny and it just feels forced, but you're legitimately hilarious. "Big ol door knob nose" absolutely killed me. And as a fellow smirker I can confirm good silent smirk is far more infuriating to high strung psychos than words ever can be 😉 Well played!

Played a guy who would get livid if a single space Marine died, like legit take it as personal as a space marine would “if I lose one more guy I am gona jump across this table” lol I remember looking at him and asking “and do what?” Crazy thing is this guy was the most polite nicest guy outside of warhammer his nick name was please and thank you, it got to the point where we all loved to see who could trigger him the most in a game, I think he had names and back story for his entire black Templar army

"Your army is broken" Says the one using OP mortar setup

Could Buffy the vampire Slayer survive the Warhammer 40K universe ?

@justinweber4977

2 жыл бұрын

Plot twist, it was the 40K universe the whole time

I'll admit I would be pretty mad if all my army just got wrecked by a constant melee spam like the way you are describing it, but the way that guy went about it is just being an asshole.

@humbugryerson8845

2 жыл бұрын

Im a new player who plays orks and all i know is constant melee spam lol

@pinoarias8601

2 жыл бұрын

@@humbugryerson8845 you need moar dakka then

@reson8

2 жыл бұрын

He had 3 mortar teams, two hellhounds and a chimera. He also had three turns of unmolested, full--strength shooting. What cost him the game was poor target prioritisation.

I love this video. It takes me back to the exact experience I had first playing 40K in 2004. I was 12 and I played Grey Knights

First video I've seen of you and man this story was awesome. Honestly the gameplay you animated, drawn whatever lol really brought it together. Would love to see more honestly earned a sub regardless lol

Ackshually Gamza, I got nothing carry on

I had a kind of similar game in magic : meaning, I outsmarted him and he threw a tantrum because he lost "against a guy like me". funny stuff

The truth is the Guy had a deal that his wife won't cuckold him if he won. Now he's teaching jaquan and datron how to play.

> Builds army around single tactic > Faces opponent to whom this tactic is useless > Loses SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg

Oh this is hilarious. I love it. The nature of Khorne was played as it should be and he just sounded like he was relying on a pinning test to get through. I wish I could have seen that, good way to keep your composure and play as your army should. Yes do more. 🤘🏻💥💥💥💥

I had a similar army.. two rhinos, loaded with Khorne troops, bike squad with hounds.... race to the opposing line, and then advance up their lines.. Many table flips..

I love how you showed what happened while telling the story I fucking love these

You can find these sort of person in the fighting game community too. The guy that never bother picking his worst matchup even once in order to learn the counter strategy. They are also the loudest, most obnoxious of the bunch..

Back in 4th edition I was asked by one of the kids at the shop to play a 1500pt game. I said sure, but then I was told by both the shop owner and the local TO not to kill his librarian first. The kid put his librarian in front of 4 of my iron warrior lazcannon marines in the open ...... so what would any of us would do I shot the bloody hell out of that librarian. The kid trys to flip the table gets stopped by the shop owner, told to go home and chill out and not come back for a week. I then hear something hit the front window of the store it shattered as the kid threw a ton of rocks at it. And the TO said to me you just had to kill his librarian first now didn't you.

@gordonkerry9320

2 жыл бұрын

So the kid wanted to get slapped I guess...

@tremere40k

2 жыл бұрын

@@gordonkerry9320 oh yea. His Mom was owned that boy lol

Reminds me of a guy I played back in 3rd Ed, He came up with a tactic he called a Mobile pillbox. 10 Devastators in a Rhino. (Back in those days half the squad inside could fire weapons out of vehicles, including Heavy Weapons.) I knew he did this so I took it to the next level, Obliterators were released squad size was 10, and size wise they each counted as one model for carry capacity. I put a full 10 man Oblit squad in a Landraider, did not tell him then played him. He put down his Mobile Pill box, I set down my Mobile Firebase. His pillbox didnt last one turn. Up side was he never used that tactic again no matter who he played cause he was afraid of me telling people how to defeat it.

I was Playing a Warhammer Fantasy Battle game years ago. My High Elves vs Empire. The Empire player got so mad when I used Grey magic to teleport his Steamtank back behind cover after he had finally gotten it in to position to start hitting my fairly static lines of elves. That he threw the model into his case shattering it. This was the old small solid metal tank as well.

Could All Might survive warhammer 40k or Could the power rangers(any version) survive warhammer 40k?

@l0sts0ul89

2 жыл бұрын

All Might, maybe not sure but the Power Rangers could actually to quite well.

I haven’t been this early since the emperor wasn’t mortally wounded

I used to watch local tournaments when I was a kid and always thought to myself, why can't everyone just be like the ork guys? Great story mate, stuff like this brings up little memories that I thought were lost.

“Take a pinning test” “Alright, success on a one up” *rolls*

There’s a term for your Opponent in this story it is “that guy” every store and tournament has one and they are all alike and behave the same

I'm surprised he got that far with that mortar based army. That sounds like it was the 'Rhino rush' edition.

I would like to see more of these. At least the ones you would call the most memorable for you Gamza.

"Look's over to his wife". You sure that wasn't his mom?

I'd love to hear what butterball has to say about this encounter.

Believe it or not, I actually prefer this type of content - you made tactics videos way back when that helped me out quite a bit. If doing the scenes there is too much why not do it on Tabletop Simulator?

@darkandedgy1457

2 жыл бұрын

That'd be really 😎

@idkwmytuni

2 жыл бұрын

@Lord Inquisitor Shadowlord methinks you're the type of guy to take 1 hr deploying cause you keep wiggling your mouse on accident

I remember back at a similar point in time, 4th ed 40K. Playing in the Dominion Day Irish tournament. Facing off against a GW staff member. We we're both using Eldar. He was using a generic army while i was using the Craft World rules which had only been around for a few moths at that point. My chosen Craft World was Iyanden so 3 Wraithlords & 15 Wraithguard as the back bone of my army with 2 units of Banshees. in Wave Serpents. Possibly other things I don't remember now it was 16 years ago lol & not a single guardian in sight. A good solid close range army. I completely tabled his army after a quite competetive game as we had many overlapping unit choices. It seemed quite congenial during the game & i gave him a decent sportsmanship score as we'd been laughing & joking the whole way through only for him to give me the worst sportsmanship score i got the entire day. Guess some people just don't like loosing. My only loss the entire tournament came in my final battle against an Ultrasmurf player who fielded as many devestator squads with missile launchers as he could. Still gave him a decent score even though he wiped my army taking very little losses due to my army being a close range army as previously mentioned & most of it dying before getting close enough to do anything. He won the tournament & i ended up winning Best General so we both finished happy at the outcome.

Brings back memories. I used to play IG vs. a World Eaters player in IV. He always used a champ. on a bike who he'd rush into my lines and then transform into a greater demon.

You never toke pinning tests per model. The guy was probably cheating his way to the top till he found someone that new the rules :D

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Back then you always took pinning test if you were hit by a pinning weapon. 6th edition if you got pinned you always “go to ground”