My Favourite Places Ep 3 - Constable Country, Suffolk, England

Between July 2006 and April 2013, I lived 45 minutes drive from the small area of East Anglia in England that inspired most of John Constable's paintings. I drove over to Constable Country as often as I could, and it became a place I adore. This video takes you on a tour of this tiny patch of unspoiled England, comparing Constable's paintings with how the actual landscape looks today.

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  • @CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
    @CoolhandLukeSkywalkr4 жыл бұрын

    I'm an American and I traced my family history and found out some of my ancestors came from Dedham. Thanks for this video.

  • @marijeangalloway1560
    @marijeangalloway1560 Жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful, heartfelt video. Truly the English countryside is unmatched for peaceful loveliness. So fortunate Constable captured it for us 200 years ago, and the National Trust preserves it for us to see today as he saw it then. Also, paired most perfectly with Vaughan Williams' exquisite pastorale "The Lark Ascending."

  • @R08Tam
    @R08Tam3 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, thanks for posting. I see that you love England as much as I do.

  • @mikesaunders4775
    @mikesaunders47753 жыл бұрын

    A meticulously researched and well produced documentary about one of England's most beloved artists and the landscape that inspired him.

  • @tellingthetruth3726
    @tellingthetruth37265 жыл бұрын

    Good on ya’ mate... this is THE most informative AND beautifull post I’ve seen of Constable Country to date..... thank you......

  • @muddy-underfoot.
    @muddy-underfoot.6 жыл бұрын

    I used to live near Flatford when I was about 8 years old, it has a special place in my heart. Most recently I was lucky enough to walk in the area and had my first book published, A Boot Up Constable Country, and features many circular walks through this wonderful area.

  • @Winner01001
    @Winner010012 ай бұрын

    I’ve just bought a house in East Bergholt, can’t wait to visit these sites….thanks so much for the information, brilliant stuff

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow! That’s awesome! Enjoy your life in one of England’s most unspoiled landscapes ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Winner01001

    @Winner01001

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Marco . Are you local ?

  • @robinfereday6562
    @robinfereday6562 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely video and so well done thank you 😊

  • @hivewatch
    @hivewatch Жыл бұрын

    This is a very well researched and beautifully made and visually informative video! Well done Sir!

  • @Geeer7253
    @Geeer7253 Жыл бұрын

    Very good doc, Sr. Love from Brazil.

  • @kieranharford8755
    @kieranharford875515 күн бұрын

    I came here in the '60s, when it was relatively quiet,

  • @axecalibore
    @axecalibore5 жыл бұрын

    Wow. No wonder Constable loved to paint these scenes. I would too.

  • @ytchrisd
    @ytchrisd4 жыл бұрын

    Brought back some memories i used to let the boats out at Flatford during the day and milk the cows for the Richardsons morning and evening when i was 13 to 15 years old I was paid 25p an hour ! it was great fun

  • @MiaFeigelsonGallery
    @MiaFeigelsonGallery2 жыл бұрын

    @Aussiemarco, I can't find the words to thank you enough for this amazingly brilliant, moving, informative Video. It's the best I've watched on Constable's Country !

  • @carloscatam4519
    @carloscatam4519 Жыл бұрын

    😢😢😢😢😢😢😢, fiquei emocionado com esse documentário. Amo desenhar as obras de John Costable.......queria tanto conhecer esses lugares, mas não tenho condições financeiras pra isso. Viajei no tempo vendo esse vídeo. Tbm estou vendendo meus desenhos, feitos a lápis. Tbm sonho em um dia, ter meu trabalho exposto em algum lugar. Jhon Constable,um artista simplesmente admirável.... Parabéns pelo excelentíssimo conteúdo desse vídeo. Amei.

  • @Johlibaptist
    @Johlibaptist10 жыл бұрын

    A really enjoyable video. Thanks for uploading it. Dedham, Essex, is one of my favourite places.

  • @robertspeicher5047
    @robertspeicher50474 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the video.

  • @julieprice9310
    @julieprice93109 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating , I really enjoyed looking at the places That constable painted , and seeing un spoilt countryside not to changed in All these years . I'm Thinking of visiting Suffolk again now .

  • @alanwann9318
    @alanwann93185 жыл бұрын

    Thanks,you got this so right,I have walked in the area and wondered why it is familiar.

  • @matildabond..2390
    @matildabond..23909 жыл бұрын

    Was there yesterday,So lucky to live in this little piece of paradise.

  • @Nemie125
    @Nemie12510 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely and informative video! So glad you are enjoying Suffolk :) I was born there, but grew up elsewhere and now live in London. Always a lovely place to visit.

  • @lynrhodes2856
    @lynrhodes28564 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks I can understand constable painting a lot better now.

  • @AntonioAlvesNovaesFilhoArtes
    @AntonioAlvesNovaesFilhoArtes7 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic ! Congratulations on making this super special video. Thank you so much !

  • @jager896
    @jager8962 жыл бұрын

    They used this for a Miss Marple remember it well having been there Eileen

  • @shotleylad
    @shotleylad7 жыл бұрын

    Also my favourite place we often walk along the river.

  • @vertsk8er419
    @vertsk8er4194 жыл бұрын

    great examples of cultural layering very informative and educational. thank you

  • @psaunders6092
    @psaunders60924 жыл бұрын

    This is such a good video. And the accuracy of the narrative is really welcome.

  • @SteveBuchananArt
    @SteveBuchananArt10 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video. I don't live far from Dedham and am planning another visit there soon. It is a beautiful part of the country.

  • @veenag1663
    @veenag16636 жыл бұрын

    I love ipswich. Really such a beautiful place i have ever seen.

  • @mandanagarnham2671
    @mandanagarnham26713 жыл бұрын

    Very nicely done. 👍 👏 well done

  • @mohammadtawfiqlifestylelim7051
    @mohammadtawfiqlifestylelim70513 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful elaboration

  • @tamaracarter1836
    @tamaracarter18364 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a beautiful video! I have quite a substantial list of places to visit in the UK (if you’re interested): **everything is in England unless stated as otherwise* *Medieval Cathedrals (+1 Baroque and +1 modern):* Lincoln Cathedral, Durham Cathedral *one of the best examples of 'romanesque' achitecture, York Minster, Ely Cathedral, Canterbury Cathedral, Salisbury Cathedral, Wells Cathedral, Winchester Cathedral *longest 'medieval' cathedral in Europe, Peterborough Cathedral, Norwich Cathedral, Gloucester Cathedral *specifically the incredible cloisters, Westminster Abbey, St. Paul's Cathedral *not medieval, but 17th century Baroque, Liverpool Cathedral *not medieval, but gothic revival (7th largest cathedral in the world). *These are my top 14. *Other interesting Medieval religious buildings:* King’s College Chapel, Cambridge, Tewkesbury Abbey *one of the best examples of ‘Romanesque’ architecture, Worcester Cathedral, Bath Abbey, St Albans Cathedral, Southwell Minster, Exeter Cathedral, Beverley Minster *one of the largest parish churches and a gothic masterpiece, Chester Cathedral, Ripon Cathedral *contains one of the oldest surviving parts of any cathedral in England - the crypt built somewhere around the year 672, St. George's Chapel, Windsor. *Some examples of other religious buildings e.g chapels/ abbeys/ cathedrals/ large parish church. *Medieval Abbey ruins:* Fountains Abbey, Whitby Abbey, Rievaulx Abbey, Glastonbury Abbey, Tintern Abbey (Wales), Battle Abbey *important as site of 1066 battle of Hastings. *Cities (historical as opposed to the more “modernised”) that are not the more popular London:* York, Bath, Edinburgh (Scotland), Canterbury, Cambridge, Lincoln, Oxford, Durham, Norwich, Norfolk, Wells, Somerset, Stirling (Scotland), Salisbury, Bristol *slightly more of a typical, “modern” city, yet retains large amounts of 18th century architecture, Ely, Chester, Aberdeen (Scotland), Winchester, Worcester, Worcestershire, Brighton *more of a “modern” example, but still retains loads of old streets and regency buildings, Lichfield, Exeter *Probably the most noticeably bombed city on the list (from WW2), yet still contains lots of historical buildings and streets, St Albans, Hertfordshire, Windsor town *officially a large town, Rochester, Kent *officially a town, but has a cathedral, Southwell *officially a town, but has a cathedral. *25 examples of different sized historical cities in England (+3 Scottish) other than London. Yet even the larger (more modernised) cities have great architectural features such as Liverpool with 'the three graces' and gigantic cathedral. *Pretty Cotswolds towns/ villages:* Castle Combe, Wiltshire, Burford, Oxfordshire, Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, Corsham, Wiltshire, Bibury, Gloucestershire, Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, Bourton-on-the-Water, Gloucestershire, Stow-on-the-Wold, Gloucestershire, Woodstock, Oxfordshire. *Here are 10 examples of Cotswolds towns/ villages. *Pretty villages (not in the Cotswolds region):* Lacock, Wiltshire, Kersey Village, Suffolk, Robin Hood's Bay, North Yorkshire, Chiddingstone Village, Kent, Clovelly Village, Devon, Mousehole, Cornwall, Corfe Castle Village, Dorset, Shere, Surrey, Micheldever, Hampshire, Culross Village (Scotland), Staithes, North Yorkshire, Chilham Village, Kent, Polperro, Cornwall, Cockington Village, Devon, Hawkshead, Cumbria, Thaxted, Essex, Woburn Village, Bedfordshire, Dunster, Somerset, Castleton, Derbyshire, Wherwell, Hampshire, Milton Abbas, Dorset, Little Walsingham, Norfolk, Turville, Buckinghamshire, Abbotsbury, Dorset, Bakewell, Derbyshire, Wendens Ambo, Essex, Weobley, Herefordshire, Dorchester, Oxfordshire, West Lulworth Village, Dorset. *27 examples of pretty English Villages (+1 Scottish). *Pretty towns (not in the Cotswolds region):* Lavenham, Suffolk, Rye, East Sussex, Totnes, Devon, Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, St Ives, Cornwall, Ludlow, Shropshire, Richmond, North Yorkshire, Arundel Town, West Sussex, Fowey, Cornwall, Stamford, Lincolnshire, Dartmouth, Devon, Sandwich, Kent, Oundle, Northamptonshire, Axbridge, Somerset, Whitby, North Yorkshire, Sherborne, Dorset, Frome, Somerset, Stratford-upon-Avon *probably the most famous on the list, Hastings Old Town, East Sussex, Malton, North Yorkshire, Lewes, East Sussex, Shaftesbury, Dorset, Uppingham, Rutland, Ledbury, Herefordshire, Lymington, Hampshire, Salcombe, Devon, Saffron Walden, Essex, *27 examples of pretty English Towns. *Medieval Castles:* Bodiam Castle, Conwy Castle (Wales), Tower of London, Warwick Castle, Alnwick Castle, Dover Castle, Caernarfon Castle (Wales), Leeds Castle, Raglan Castle (Wales). Bamburgh Castle, Arundel Castle, Eilean Donan Castle (Scotland), Windsor Castle, Castle Rising, Caerphilly Castle (Wales), Berkeley Castle, Castle Stalker (Scotland), Pembroke Castle, Harlech Castle (Wales), Bolton Castle, Caeverlock castle (Scotland) *only moated triangular castle in the world, Beaumaris Castle (Wales), Rochester Castle. *23 examples of English, Welsh and Scottish Castles - all in different sizes and conditions. *Medieval ‘moated’ Manor House / Medieval Manor [built before 1485]:* Haddon Hall, Stokesay Castle *smaller, but extremely unique medieval manor house, Knole House, Hever Castle, Oxburgh Hall, Herstmonceux Castle *rare as medieval brick, Ightham Mote, Penhurst Place, Brockhampton Estate, Herefordshire *minuature medieval manor house, Baddesley Clinton Manor, Tattershall Castle, Lincolnshire *rare as medieval brick. *10 examples of medieval manors in England built before 1485, all different sizes - some with/ without moat. *Tudor [1485-1558], Elizabethan [1558-1603] or Jacobean [1603-1625] Palaces/ Great Houses:* Hampton Court Palace, Burghley House, Hardwick Hall, Hatfield House, Longleat House, Blickling Hall, Little Moreton Hall *example of a miniature Tudor Manor House, Audley End House, Highclere Castle *not an authentic Jacobean house, but was redesigned in the 19th century in that style, Sudbury Hall. *10 examples of large estates built between 1485-1625. *Classical Palaces/ Great Houses [around 1616-1800]:* Blenheim Palace, Chatsworth House, Castle Howard, Holkham Hall, Wilton House, Houghton Hall, Dyrham Park, Kedleston Hall, Belton House, Stourhead House. *10 examples of large estates built between 1616-1800. *Natural sites:* Lake District, Snowdonia National Park (Wales), Scottish Highlands (Scotland), Peak District, Yorkshire Dales, Brecon Beacons National Park (Wales), The Isle of Skye (Scotland), Northumberland National Park, Scottish Lochs (Scotland), Jurassic Coast. *10 examples of natural beauty in the UK. *Ruins - Neolithic/ Roman:* Stonehenge/ Avebury/ other stone circles, Hadrian’s wall - Roman, Roman Baths, Bath, Neolithic Monuments Orkney (Scotland), Fishbourne Roman Palace/ Bignor Roman Villa, Vindolanda Roman Fort/ Corbridge Roman Town, Portchester Castle (Roman remains)/ Roman lighthouse at Dover Castle. *Historical things to do in London that are “lesser-known”:* -Maritime Greenwich - the Baroque Maritime buildings in Greenwich - especially the ‘Painted Hall’ as well as ‘Queen’s House’, -Chiswick House - a Palladian Villa with lavish 17th/18th century interiors, and tranquil gardens, -The many ‘Baroque’ churches of London (other than St. Paul’s Cathedral) e.g ‘St Mary Le Strand’, -The hidden ‘medieval’ religious buildings e.g ‘St Bartholomew-the-Great church’, or non-religious buildings e.g ‘Westminster Hall’ (finished in 1097), -Another great painted ceiling in London (albeit much smaller than those in Greenwich) can be found in the ‘Banqueting House, Whitehall’, painted by Rubens, -Some of the surviving great houses of London such as ‘Syon House’ (with its incredible 18th century Neo-Classical Robert Adam interiors), Osterley Park (another Robert Adam) and ‘Ham House’ (such a rare 17th century survival), or some of the mansion houses such as ‘Spencer House’ or ‘Apsley House’. *This is a list that I made for an Australian friend of mine who wanted it focused on ‘historical’ places - so it may be worded strange in parts!*

  • @mikesaunders4775

    @mikesaunders4775

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your friend will have to spend a lifetime and more here to visit all these places. Best of luck though.

  • @tamaracarter1836

    @tamaracarter1836

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikesaunders4775 I know right. Plus this was a very watered down version for example in the end for the historic villages/ towns/ cities in England I gave this: - *West England:* *Pretty Villages and Towns:* Lacock, Wiltshire, Castle Combe, Wiltshire, Stow-on-the-Wold, Gloucestershire, Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire, Burford, Oxfordshire, Bibury, Gloucestershire, Painswick, Gloucestershire, Stanton Village, Gloucestershire, Lower Slaughter, Gloucestershire, Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, Corsham, Wiltshire, Dunster, Somerset, Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire, Snowshill Village, Gloucestershire, Broadway Village, Worcestershire, Cirencester, Gloucestershire. Great Tew Village, Oxfordshire, Woodstock, Oxfordshire, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bourton-on-the-Water, Gloucestershire, Frome, Somerset. *Historic Cities:* Bath, Somerset, Oxford, Wells, Somerset, Salisbury, Wiltshire, Bristol Old Town. ------------------ - *South England:* *Pretty Villages and Towns:* Rye, East Sussex, St. Ives, Cornwall, Corfe Castle Village, Dorset, Mousehole, Cornwall, Clovelly Village, Devon, Alfriston Village, East Sussex, Totnes, Devon, Polporro, Cornwall, Sandwich Town, Kent, Cockington Village, Devon, Chilham Village, Kent, Dartmouth, Devon, Wherwell, Hampshire, Arundel Town, West Sussex, Penshurst Village, Kent, Petworth, West Sussex, Sherborne, Dorset, Micheldever Village, Hampshire, Chiddingstone Village, Kent, Lustleigh Village, Devon, West Lulworth Village, Dorset. *Historic Cities:* Canterbury, Winchester, Hampshire, Rochester, Kent, Brighton *a mix of the historic with new/vibrant. ---------------- - *North England:* *Pretty Villages and Towns:* Robin Hood’s Bay, North Yorkshire, Ludlow, Shropshire, Bakewell, Derbyshire, Staithes, North Yorkshire, Hawkeshead Village, Cumbria, Haworth, West Yorkshire, Richmond, North Yorkshire, Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, Grassington, North Yorkshire, Longnor Village, Staffordshire, Thornton-le-Dale, North Yorkshire, Bishop’s Castle, Shropshire, Whitby, North Yorkshire, Alnwick Town, Northumberland, Ashford-in-the-Water, Derbyshire, Helmsley, North Yorkshire, Great Budworth, Cheshire, Sedbergh, Cumbria, Castleton, Derbyshire, Middleham, North Yorkshire. *Historic Cities:* York, Durham, Chester, Southwell, Nottinghamshire. ------------------ - *East England:* *Pretty Villages and Towns:* Lavenham, Suffolk, Stamford, Lincolnshire, Wendens Ambo Village, Essex, Kersey Village, Suffolk, Uppingham, Rutland, Little Walsingham, Norfolk, Saffron Walden, Essex, Houghton Village, Cambridgeshire, Clare Village, Suffolk, Chelsworth, Suffolk, Dedham Village, Essex, Castle Rising Village, Norfolk, Flatford, Suffolk, King’s Lynn Old Town, Norfolk, Nayland, Suffolk, Kimbolton Village, Cambridgeshire, Ketton Village, Rutland, Castle Hedingham Village, Essex, Blakeney High Street, Norfolk, Thaxted, Essex. *Historic Cities:* Cambridge, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, Norwich, Norfolk, Ely, Cambridgeshire. ---------------- - *Central England:* *Pretty Villages and Towns:* Turville, Buckinghamshire, Shere, Surrey, Denham Village, Buckinghamshire, Oundle, Northamptonshire, Shipston-on-Stour, Warwickshire, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, Weobley, Herefordshire, Woburn Village, Bedfordshire, Welford-on-Avon, Warwickshire, West Wycombe Village, Buckinghamshire, Ledbury, Herefordshire, Collyweston, Northamptonshire, Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, Ilmington, Warwickshire, Pembridge Village, Herefordshire, Ombersley Village, Worcestershire, Chiddingfold Village, Surrey, Eardisland, Herefordshire, Fingest Village, Buckinghamshire, Apethorpe Village, Northamptonshire. *Historic Cities:* Windsor Town, Lichfield, Staffordshire, Worcester, Worcestershire (old parts), St Albans, Hertfordshire. ------------------

  • @kieranharford8755
    @kieranharford875515 күн бұрын

    The river is pronounce STORE, not stuwer, but can be stower

  • @djdoolittle1315
    @djdoolittle13156 жыл бұрын

    thx

  • @RomyIlano
    @RomyIlano4 жыл бұрын

    This is another area I nominate for an English dollhouse set

  • @cthult7856
    @cthult78567 жыл бұрын

    I love your accent!

  • @MiaFeigelsonGallery
    @MiaFeigelsonGallery2 жыл бұрын

    @Aussiemarco, did you switch to another KZread channel? I've just checked your Video List and the last film you posted was on 22 June 2013. You're so talented, I would really like to watch more of your outstanding Videos.

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your lovely comment. Sorry it’s taken so long to reply!! Ooooops. No I don’t have another channel. I don’t have the time to write, record the commentary and especially edit videos. I have hours and hours of video from all over Europe, but I can’t find the time to put it all together. As I work full time, this video took me 3 months to edit on my days off!! I’m too much of a perfectionist haha

  • @MiaFeigelsonGallery

    @MiaFeigelsonGallery

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aussiemarco There's no need to apologise , thanks for answering me ! I can easily tell how much time, work and effort were put into making your amazing videos. By the way, I shared this particular film with the East Bergholt Society and they loved it ! Thanks again, wishing you the very best !

  • @moghalsattarbaigh2536
    @moghalsattarbaigh25365 жыл бұрын

    These is UK everything is good

  • @user-wi2md5gs5x
    @user-wi2md5gs5x2 жыл бұрын

    참 아름답고 신비스롭네요 누가 한국어로 번역좀 해주시면 좋겠어요

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    2 жыл бұрын

    감사합니다. 즐감하셨다니 다행입니다. 한국어 번역이 없어서 죄송합니다

  • @elizabethplane9868
    @elizabethplane98683 жыл бұрын

    This is just so good. Not at all jazzed up. My ancestry is from this area.

  • @MrGrovemill
    @MrGrovemill Жыл бұрын

    The river is pronounced the Stour ( as in ‘our’ ) not Stewer (as in sewer)

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ll repeat the reply to the comment from 2 years ago - I asked the locals how to pronounce the Suffolk/Essex ‘Stour’, so as to get it right for this video. I used the pronunciation they gave me. ‘Stour’ is an ancient Celtic word applied to rivers all over England; it’s meaning is now unknown. It’s first written record is 1086 in the Domesday Book, where it was written as “Sture”. The pronunciation of the different River Stours varies across the UK. I used the pronunciation of the East Anglian Stour. I hope this helps you understand why I pronounced it this way.

  • @toffeeriot4219
    @toffeeriot42192 жыл бұрын

    1:02. It's "forgotten"?

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Figuratively speaking, yes it’s a forgotten corner of England. No huge industrial cities, no estates of apartment buildings, no enormous retail parks, no factory complexes. Sure, Colchester is nearby, but it’s not a Sheffield, Manchester or Birmingham. Constable Country is farmland as far as you can see, small ancient villages and the roads (with the exception of the A12) are quiet country lanes. So yep, for me it’s ‘forgotten’.

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын

    Hallo Hallo. Now then, what's going on here in the name of the law?!

  • @matildabond..2390
    @matildabond..23908 жыл бұрын

    Not nit picking,but it is actually in Essex,not Suffolk

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    8 жыл бұрын

    The River Stour is the boundary of Essex and Suffolk at that point. Dedham is in Essex but East Bergholt and Flatford are in Suffolk - hence Constable being referred to in art books as a Suffolk painter. Dedham Vale (the river valley) is in both counties.

  • @matildabond..2390

    @matildabond..2390

    8 жыл бұрын

    I know lol,I live there,

  • @smoath

    @smoath

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matildabond..2390 🤣make up your mind luv

  • @matildabond..2390

    @matildabond..2390

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@smoath About what love...?

  • @ianspicer3885
    @ianspicer38854 жыл бұрын

    It's not stooer its Stour get your facts right

  • @mikesaunders4775

    @mikesaunders4775

    3 жыл бұрын

    Give him a break,there are a number of rivers called Stour in England,and the pronunciation varies accordingly,plus he's an Aussie not a local.

  • @Aussiemarco

    @Aussiemarco

    2 жыл бұрын

    I asked the locals how to pronounce the Suffolk/Essex ‘Stour’, so as to get it right for this video. I used the pronunciation they gave me. ‘Stour’ is an ancient Celtic word applied to rivers all over England; it’s meaning is now unknown. It’s first written record is 1086 in the Domesday Book, where it was written as “Sture”. The pronunciation of the different River Stours varies across the UK. I used the pronunciation of the East Anglian Stour. I hope this helps you understand why I pronounced it this way.