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Hi I’m Rick Shiels, welcome to my channel RickShielsPGAGolf. This KZread channel is designed to help you play better golf, also to help you enjoy your golf more!
I specialise in golf club reviews, golf club unboxing, golf club news, golf club head to heads, and all about golf clubs.
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For 2k it should come with a customised special headcover maybe a different grip A thank you letter And a 1000 pound gift certificate
@_barncat
23 күн бұрын
Lol
@kenbrown2808
23 күн бұрын
or a full set of clubs.
@connor9948
23 күн бұрын
That head cover is custom, they dont sell them on their website, he is one of the only owners of a ping PLD alligator skin headcover
@dwboston1
23 күн бұрын
It does come with a custom high-end putter cover made for the PLD customs. The PLD program is top-notch - they treated me very well, and I was one of the early customers and paid nowhere near $2k. I've had putters from a few custom putter makers, and the PLD is the best one I've had and is still in the bag.
@joeschmitt3069
22 күн бұрын
if i pay Ping $2k for a putter... it better come with 2 Scotty Cameron's
£2k for this is ridiculous
@52t99
20 күн бұрын
Hey, he got 2 putters for £2000. So it’s a bit better no????
@SigmaJAD
18 күн бұрын
TBH 200 is ridiculous but
Still not worth $2k even with the fitting and fancier box 😂
@bwalsh1105
22 күн бұрын
No it’s still very much a wealthy disposable income purchase. This is not for the average golfer. I mean if I use that putter for 20 years, I’m still paying $100 bucks a year for it. That’s crazy to me.
@iamtrent2249
22 күн бұрын
Not worth the 2k even with 2 putters 😂😂
@samuraichicken9248
22 күн бұрын
Nope. I'd rather buy 10 putters at $200 each.
@TheShaunsc
21 күн бұрын
$2,500 USD is absolutely ridiculous!!!
@Torta--is--PLUR
21 күн бұрын
The box had all the corners dinged up
The rusty “RS,” on the bottom of the putter is absolutely awesome
Credit to ping for taking it so well. Seems like they really took your review on board!
@joeschmitt3069
22 күн бұрын
why? because they sent him a new putter? its the same putter in a nicer box. unless a box is made out of gold... i throw them away. when Ping sends out new putters to everyone that paid this ridiculous price, then maybe i will respect the brand again.
@tomg9996
20 күн бұрын
@@joeschmitt3069 I never said it was now worth it! There's no way I would pay that much and I still think it's too expensive. Just saying a lot of companies probably wouldn't have taken the criticism as well. At least PING took it on board and made some changes
@kelvindawe5123
17 күн бұрын
Embarrassed thats why they took note.
I'm going to come out and say it, who cares about the packaging when it's literally getting thrown away anyway.
@kolchak3578
23 күн бұрын
Exactly! Forget the packaging and lower the price!
@Longarmshortarm
22 күн бұрын
Stunning, brave
@johnbrodnik839
22 күн бұрын
I say Keep the Packaging and Throw away the Putter! It really doesn’t matter…
@kolchak3578
22 күн бұрын
@@johnbrodnik839 🤣
@Lush-Ice
16 күн бұрын
It’s $2000 bro
I can't wait to hear how a nice box makes it a better putter
@fragge2926
23 күн бұрын
You're not paying 2k for a putter, you're paying it for an experience. The unboxing is part of it.
@TicTaxx
23 күн бұрын
@@fragge2926 You're really not. The unboxing last minutes and will be forgotten as soon as the putter is in the bag
@gdidj019
23 күн бұрын
It is a bit of a marketing ploy that psychologically if every experience with a product is better you will feel the product is better. So it is important. IE someone fixing your car at a garage, if they Valet it, people think the car runs smoother than before even though it’s just been fixed and then cleaned inside and out
@martinconnolly7815
22 күн бұрын
Getting fleeced is not an 'experience' I enjoy
@fragge2926
22 күн бұрын
@@martinconnolly7815 Then you are not the intended customer for this. Lots of people are willing to pay extra to be treated "special".
Not gonna lie, I liked the design of the old head cover more. The quality on the new one looks better, but I thought the AZ map was a cool idea. The new putter looks like they put some kind of clear coat over the RS, maybe to prevent the rust.
@elijahflint2101
23 күн бұрын
i agree i thought the map was sick! (i’m biased since im from phoenix LOL)
@granthodges9860
22 күн бұрын
Time will tell as to whether that rust stays away 🇦🇺👍
@gonuts4donuts
16 күн бұрын
Yeah, the Arizona head cover looks better with the outlines of (I’m assuming counties) around where Ping is located. That newer head cover looks like something a Louisiana pimp would have.
Custom box should be an option... Give me plain cardboard and bubble wrap please. I dont keep my putter in a box and it doesnt make a difference to how I score :)
@JoshuaPerks
23 күн бұрын
I agree it's a waste of materials. The whole unboxing experience is a weird KZread fetish.
@huddwah
23 күн бұрын
@@JoshuaPerks 100%
@JohanNordlund
23 күн бұрын
Fully agree, better if they spend all of it on the actual putter than a box I will throw away anyway... Buy I guess for that price they wont have to cut away much margin to provide a nice looking box.
Visually, the packaging is much nicer. BUT, to set some reality back in, Ping just spent about $25 more on the cardboard, instead of a generic white cardboard. So, not really that much different. Ping, like all companies, is trying to SELL a premium experience for what they believe is a premium product AND MAKE MONEY. Nothing wrong with that, and we need to set our expectations accordingly.
I have mixed feelings - on the one hand, a simple presentation would tell me that the whole cost of the experience was devoted to getting me the best putter they could provide, and on the other hand, for that cost, the shipping box should enclose a hardshell case with a proper formed velvet lining, like a musical instrument case.
@patrickhockey615
22 күн бұрын
I would agree with this. If I enjoyed the fitting experience I don't care what it comes in as long as it's in new shape. Sure a keepsake box would be nice but I don't want to pay much for that
@johnbrodnik839
22 күн бұрын
What fitting!? At this point You know the length. The Loft. The type of head you like. All that’s left is the grip and what color! I have an old Ping putter from 1969. New to me on 1970 as a Christmas gift for returning in one piece. Still putts great and feels better than Most! I love the Golf Works guys and all the putting woes and a new putter that will solve all of their personal problems too. Can’t wait for the new X! Yeah that should do it!! It’s still the same person holding the club. It’s You!! 😊 and me!!
@mikeshar852
20 күн бұрын
@@johnbrodnik839your age is showing. Technology has given them the tools to put you into a putter the fits your tendencies you don’t even know you have.
I don't putt with a box, with a head cover, nor with a logo. These may be an 'experience,' but they don't get the ball into the hole.
I have to say I am a little bit sceptical about these so expensive golf equipment. But I totally get it now, that box and unboxing experience is just amazing. Can't wait to get 2.000 quid together to expend on that one, that box is definitely going to look amazing in the attic next to grandma summer clothes (god rest her soul)
I don't know why the box is that important. I assume you keep the putter in your golf bag after you take it out of the box.
Nice 1500 dollar box
About 20 years ago I had a single golf lesson from an ex Ryder Cup player - it cost me about £30 if memory serves me right. £2,000 for a fully fitted putter is crazy. You need to tell me if the pros get that set up and if so do they cough up £2K like mere mortals? Ping you are taking the P***
most average golfers don't give a damn about the packaging as long as club is protected
I would also agree. The putter is $500-$600 & $1400 - $1500 in "CUSTOM Fitting" is absolutely RIDONKULOUS. I would also like to see a Hat, Towel, Ball Marker or Score Card Holder. I do like #PingGolf better than most & I use a G400 LST 8° Driver too.
You can get much the same putter fitting at hundreds (maybe thousands) of fitting centres. It will be about £250 for an all singing all dancing fitting (price of the putter on top of that) and you aren't restricted to ping either. I don't get what they are trying to do here. It feels very un-ping
@ahastar1141
22 күн бұрын
I believe in most cases going and getting fit at a manufacturers location is usually more expensive than just going to your local big box store and getting fit
The most important thing Ping could have done is reduce the price. I’d take the original box and rather have the fitting cost a grand less.
Maybe Rick should explain the fitting process a little more clearly so everyone has clear understanding of what is offered. It is not just a means of taking your stats and then fitting a putter for you ie. length, lie, face balance etc. Ping will take your stats and then guide you in to the putter that suits your technique. Some of those putters certainly will not be available at retail. Then you have choices of different metals, carbon or stainless steel. Then you’re choosing your milling based on what you prefer in feel. Then you have different hosel configurations, centre shafted, double bend, plumbers neck, and more. Not available at retail. Then you have different finishes which are varied( check out Viktor Hovlands putter, carbon and patina finish. It rusts.) And it is not available at retail. Then you have different weights. Adding tungsten weight. Different brand stamping, plus your own customised stamping as well. Assortment of grips and so on. Even for his original putter. If he chose raw carbon with black finish, that putter will rust. If he chose stainless steel with black finish, it will not. He probably chose the metal based on feel. He would/should have been advised that it will rust. All of these are choices that a tour player can make and now us average Joes have the opportunity to do so as well. Costs a bomb, yes, but what is more ridiculous is those who pay through the roof and more for Cameron Circle T putters that are not even built for them. I think Ricks explanation of the experience is quite poor and not reflective of the whole process. That could be improved as well, as this is beyond a regular fitting for a custom club with some personal stamps added on.
Still for $2000, I'm expecting the putter to Wine & Dine me also. Thanks for update and Rock on 🤘😎
When are we going to see a full Rick review of Takomos golf clubs??? With their prices it seems something a lot of us would love a honest review of
Great to see they’ve listened. Still think that creating an “unboxing” experience is such a waste time, resources and generally not a sustainable approach. I can understand that the fool who ends up paying $2000 for the experience would want it, but imho it should come in the form of something long lasting. Like a unique headcover, special shaft, some further personalisation or something. At least it should stay with the user, because let’s be honest. That box will find its way to the bin within a week. KZread reviews should not focus on the unboxing experience at all, because it’s literally the least importing thing of the whole product.
I kind of like how your logo rusted, but I also like the natural patina of an older cars factory paint.
Inside the box it could still be nicer, ball marker, pitch mark repair aid, maybe a towel as well would sex it up
@francissampson
22 күн бұрын
And maybe a set of irons .
@johnbrodnik839
22 күн бұрын
Maybe a nice bottle of Bourbon on the side! That should really help 😂
Thanks, Rick it’s about time we had someone who was honest it’s hard to come by
PING must be so glad they paid someone to design a new box, increased the cost of materials, created packaging which is harder to recycle, all to see it immediately tossed aside seconds after you’d opened it.
Titleist T200 fitting, full set of irons, 4i - GW, with "custom" Project X shafts and Winn Dritac grips, $1650.00 (£1,298.00). PING has some explaining to do!!!
The custom fitting should come with 2 putters anyways, and customized headcovers with whatever you want on it. 2000 is insane for such simplicity.
I think people are still missing that part of the cost is the fact that it's a one-off that you design from head to toe; you can literally have it any thing you want and they will build it for you. Grind, material, neck type, finish, angle, lines, literally everything. Scotty and bettinardi are the only two companies I know of that offer that service.
2k for just a putter fitter n putter!!! Hell nooo
I'm more interested in the Bettinardi box in the background :) recently got fitted for a putter and the Bettinardi innovai 9.0 stood out by a country mile and has made such a difference on the course. Maybe a review of Bettinardi vs Scotty Cameron?
Thank you for creating such an excellent place to gain intimate knowledge of golf clubs. I appreciate not only your analysis, but your comfortable, light-hearted tone. You're truly a leader in the space and my go-to when considering new clubs.
The news about the putter rusting was a shock. Ping could definitely do something to stop/slow that from happening and still have the same look. But it is also cool that the putter weathers a little as you use it. It shows that you don’t just keep it on a shelf at home.
Thing is we all know Ping's target market for this is celebrities and the wealthy. Knowing that any footballer would happily pay that for a putter and not bat an eyelid.
For $2k is should come in a Pelican case!
Crazy! Whats next, a $5000 driver!?
@ahastar1141
22 күн бұрын
You laugh, but spending close to $600 for a club people hit 13 times a round is preposterous (driver).
@johnbrodnik839
22 күн бұрын
I’m not laughing somehow I think all of these manufacturers collude or end up at the same bar and exchange notes and pricing. Isn’t it interesting that P and T come out with essentially the same driver such as the 10k. I’ll bet that complete driver costs the OEM around $150 or less to manufacture and $100 to market. And it’s not any better than an older SIM 2 or Ping G 15! The Law of Diminsishing Returns I has run its course. Cobra will have their new driver out probably ready for the 2025 Orlando Show. I’ll bet that will run around the $3000 mark or more!
i know that it may not be popular, but i love the rust on the RS logo. i thing thats beautiful and matches the grip. i have a custom built putter that has gotten rusty just like a raw wedge face, i love it more than my scotty cameron.
Love your honest reviews but sticking with my method core putter I have had for years it just works for me but since your review of the Costco irons waiting for them to come in my store and will be looking at them so once again thank you for a great review
It will be interesting to see if us everyday Joe Blogs would receive exactly the same customer service if we were underwhelmed by the whole putter experience and product. Somehow I think not ⛳
That's why being honest about a review, especially with someone with some influence, is so important. Great job keeping it real Rick. Between reviewing, lessons, and integrity you make a difference.
@johnbrodnik839
22 күн бұрын
It’s golf… in the total scheme of things it is totally ridiculous! It’s a ball that won’t roll straight anyway no matter what you do. Einstein couldn’t figure it out so…
Rick Shiels brings the change golf needs! Nice, that's why I love that you made this channel
It’s a really good process. The fitting. The meeting with Ping expert. The input into a design you want. It’s excellent.
The experience is putting, not opening a box. As long as it gets their safe, can they just send it in a brown box and knock the price down by a couple thousand?
Other than picking a head and weight that feels good to you what the heck is involved in a custom putter fitting
Well done Ping for listening. Always honest Rick. Well done
2k for a putter that’s already rusting is wild
As part of the fitting process do they make a recommendation as to whether you should be using a blade or mallet?
Rick Shiels moved into box reviews now
I’m glad that the box that you’re going to throw away 2 minutes after getting it was so worth it
Crazy price. Wow
Still better to go to somewhere like @Precision Golf and get their fitting and then buy the putter there. Would cost much less and be a better experience.
Rick so glad for your honesty on these products and thank you to ping for listening . I would be very pissed to pay that kind of money and have something like that happen keep up the great presentation
Rick, I would challenge you to get a custom putter w/ tour pro fitting from any other BIG name golf club manufacturer, built to your exact specifications with just about any custom touch you want including custom stamping, and see what it would cost compared to what Ping currently charges. My guess is, you won’t find it. In my search, a SC putter was the closest I could find, and their custom shop only had very, in my opinion, basic custom offering and they didn’t not offer a tour level fitting. It was not an apples to apples comparison and it wasn’t much cheaper either. Ping on the other hand, basically allowed me to customize my putter to exactly what I wanted, didn’t say no to custom touches and built me a putter in line with what I believe SC only offers from their very super VIP boutique studio line that probably cost north of $3k USD. And that is if you even get “lucky” enough to purchase one. I would love to know if there is something out there I may have missed but from what I gather, what Ping offers and the price associated with that offering, is a really great value and currently cannot be beat.
I would love to play this kind of putter, but dang most ping putters are heavy. 370g heads is crazy when I'm used to 350g
The INDI wedges shipped in the guitar case you reviewed, it made the unboxing special and very cool. The Ping box is nothing special, especially for that price.
@ahastar1141
22 күн бұрын
Ping isn’t a nobody trying to make a first impression. If indi didn’t send the guitar case, Rick might of not even reviewed their product
I bought the Ping PLD gold-plated Anser 2 (limited run) and it was still much less than 2000 pounds...but I can't game that, it's collector's only. Same disappointing white box. But a real gold-plated Ping putter is jaw dropping in-person.
In Canada the PLD versions are about $300+ more than the regular versions.
Appreciate PING standing behind their products. They've replaced my Heppler Tyne 3 twice already for bubbling on the face. Good company.
Nice they listened. Ya if I went for a $2,500 putter fitting when I get it an open the box... I want to be in awe. Much better this time. But I'm still not spending that much money on a putter. Unless it's a rare Scotty which should increase in value.
I got a free putter fitting thrown in when I was fitted for my wedges and new grips, he wanted to change my hand position forward, I told him to bend my odyssey 2 degrees! lol
Hit videos are getting better and better. Love the editing recently Keep up the great work fellas
Thank you for sharing and it's great to hear that Ping has improved. But don't you think they only moved because someone with your reach exposed them in a video? And the new boxing from the inside isn't that great either.... Stick with my custom-made clubs from one of the best club designer and manufacturer in the world - Tom Wishon.
I have the PLD anser 2 when they came out with them. I absolutely love it and will keep it forever. It’s nicer than my Scottie. Timeless
Wow, your "Brutally Honest Review" sure had an impact. Made Ping go to a bit nicer box and a glossy cheap looking headcover. Why, they even rust-proofed the clubhead! I sure am glad we have folks like you to tell it like it is, to get them clubmakers straightened out.
Glad you clarified H.I.T. Meaning.
Every nickel (or pence I presume) that I spend on golf equipment is measured against the product, not the box or presentation in the delivery process. If all that stuff cost $50 added to the price I'd prefer $50 off the purchase price. I do appreciate the comments on the rust - that should have been handled. In general I believe that the cost on 'exceptional' examples (golf clubs, cars or aircraft) is measured by the buyer and that determines the success of that product.
Rightfully so too. All part of real life R&D. Shame it didn’t happen before production as a mere mortal may not have had the service you got to replace due to your exposure.
Simple, direct, effective. Well done! 👍
So I'v been playing golf for 2 years now And I do Comps and I don't got my own golf set but I use my friends set. And I was wondering what you would recommend for a set/Package for a 6 foot 2 Person my limit is 700
Gotta go with the headcover that has the Arizona stamp and pepper myself. But they really did need to listen to the boxing presentation gripes. No excuse for that.
An improved box. Great news
Actually that box is what I’d expect all iron sets to come in that are round the £800 + range and a 2k over priced single club to be in something a lot flashier than that
Should be a hard case like a Pelican or something as sturdy but with a cool design. Nice they used the magnetic latch but then the inside was honestly kind of meh. Much improved though.
I kinda like the rusty RS patina! People pay twice as much for a wedge that rusts, as opposed to a coated wedge.
Rick's opinion matters! Reminds me when he reviewed the Cobra Aerojet driver and the Darkspeed like dev team took his advice.
I'm just glad I finally know what HIT stands for!!
This is for the golfers back in the day that had the remote controlled trolley and Yonex clubs combo
You say your gaming it , 2000 seems like a deal when you think of how often you use it , does it have better feel are you making more puts ? A German stainless From Scotty is easy 5000 , how was the process do you feel confident now over the ball ? Like Mastercard says priceless !
Does anyone know what those digital picture frames he has are called?
I wonder if they tried to fix the rusting problem on the new one
Rick, you should do a review on the new vice golf clubs and the void golf putter.
For $2000 it should be hand delivered by the nearest Ping staffer.
Please review the new vice line up (balls and clubs). I am very curious of your honest review.
As a kid I was a very good putter. We putted with ancient beat up hand-me-downs from our father and grandfather. Buy a used putter for $20 bucks.
Nicer box but in what way is the new box cleaner?
How about a give away for the spare putter? Good to see your opinion hit home. £2k is ridiculous for the first effort
Does anyone know what grip is on the putter?
you have to use the new putter to see whether it rusts
That head cover is made from the gimpy gator in the pond (used to be in the pond) at the Cocoa Beach Country Club. For 2K you should get a guy reading your putts for you for at least a month of play. I'm a musician, I used to always say If I only had x guitar or x synthesizer I could make great songs! It's not the gear it's the opperator.
I really enjoy ricks video,s but honestly he could never influence me enuff to spend 2k on a putter its not the club that puts the ball in the hole its the persons skill with that club !
I love ping as a brand, the i230s made me an even bigger fan
The experience is what you pay for, I would love to throw down for that BUT you better believe I’m going to the PHX in person version and would never do the online version for that price. I dont know if Shiels did PHX or Euro in person, but how could he not love that experience?!?
Can you review the Lazrus wedges that keep popping up online
Ild still expect more, maybe a hat or a bag towel or something, they must know that £2,000 makes it 5 times the price of most other putters, there definitely should be a wow factor for it, ball markers, tees etc a decent welcome and thank you letter, just shows how little they actually care and think of their customers tbh.
I’m wondering who these PLD fittings are for? It feels so disconnected, ping make great stuff. But 2000 pounds for a fitting for a slightly more premium PLD. Other brands offer similar service for far less.
Still unhappy that my Ping Scottsdale Grayhawk face started to pit. Yes it was old and very well used but as I take great care with my clubs so disappointing for Ping to have no solution for this
Could have made a pine wood pox with a liner similar to a pool stick
Good stuff Rick