I really enjoy when you go to older videos to compare and prove a point. Like the 2021 ram sticker price, and the mirrors. Thanks for the content.

No joke, my 3500 literally had a bent frame from the factory. You could measure roughly an inch or more of twist from one side to the other. Amazingly, that was "within factory spec", according to a service advisor. Never mind the fact that the passenger side door and bed would not close without rubbing, literally metal to metal, and never mind the fact the that tires would wear out after 12,000 miles. It was as if the truck had been in an accident and was poorly repaired, but nope. The truck was brand new, had less than 10 miles on the ODO when I drove it home, and there was no signs the thing had ever had repairs, or like the dealer might've tried to cover something up. That's just how it was from new. What's most shocking is that wasn't even the worst of it. The truck ultimately ended being bought back under lemon law for an unidentified problem with the braking system. The truck wasted months, going back and forth for repairs. It was a nightmare. That was the first AND LAST GM product for me.

@legrandechene3734

4 ай бұрын

Many hands were on that vehicle before you got it. None of which would admit to damaging it. I seriously doubt that issue would have made it post validation.

@hogzilla1171

4 ай бұрын

Proudly built by the United Auto Workers.

@SliderFury1

4 ай бұрын

There's always someone with a story like this from every brand, even Honda/Toyota, though less commonly so from them. Do your research, screw brand loyalty, buy what you need and what works for you, hope for the best.

@JAKE20fivefive

4 ай бұрын

@@SliderFury1 There's some fallacy there, yes, but it's not entirely baseless. Beyond the anecdote, there's still a larger picture. Companies like Toyota consistently perform better in quality and reliability studies, and their reputation follows. There's got to be some explanation for that.

@SliderFury1

4 ай бұрын

​@@JAKE20fivefivedude I agree. But unfortunately Toyota doesn't make an HD truck.

I have a 2024 2500HD diesel. It also has a stumble. I thought for a second it was gonna cut out. 100k truck needs to NOT HAVE PROBLEMS!

I am glad I purchased the new power wagon. I had a new Chevy 2500 ZR2 on order, but backed out after waiting for a month. 1st year bugs can be a pain.

Glad you called out the UAW. If they are getting more money, the product needs to be better

@GWoody98

4 ай бұрын

The UAW doesn't source the inferior parts that you are having difficulty with. If the mirror was only needing plugged in, why would the dealership replace the whole unit?

@jmad9294

4 ай бұрын

@@GWoody98because that’s who failed to do a final quality control check before marking it “good to go”. Pure laziness to not only plug it in, but then intentionally not check it and confirm everything works.

Every time I see videos like this I am glad I’ve held on to my 4th gen! In 7 years I had to replace the antilock brake pump for $400ish at 95k miles and that’s it! But that AT4x is sweet!!

I have noticed the same transmission stuttering issue on mine also. I don’t have a 1000 miles yet and it has done it a couple time.

I have those same floor mats in my Ultimate and love them.

I’ve had this issue on my 2024 AT4 2500 diesel. Took it back to the dealer and they couldn’t get it to replicate. Said if it continues to please bring it back and hopefully they can replicate it. It has subsided some after 2,000 miles but does still happen on occasion.

@andrewreuther6208

3 ай бұрын

Look up the TCM overheating issues for Allison transmission.

Definitely noticed stumbles in mine too. My 3500 Duramax does it bad at 70 downshifting to pass on a two lane, always that scenario for me 70 to 85 downshift, I’ll try tow/haul mode. My 1500 trailboss Duramax has terrible tire road noise but by RST is stealth quiet. Probably swap the RST and trail boss to see if it changes. HATE THE NOISE, want to hear that LZ0 and that’s it 😂

I own a 2022 at4, love truck and no issues.

When i first saw your model i thought, yeah i should get one. But just seeing that shifter blocking the screen was enough for me to doubt the engineers.

@dhjengr8756

4 ай бұрын

Yeah it blocks it but you can just shift to L and it's mostly out of the way. Small compromise for a column shifter.

Suggesting trying to get a tech with scanner and watch the shift pattern while you drive around with and without tow haul mode on to see the difference. Scanner will have live feed data functions and a save function to compare.

My 2023 - 1500 AT4 has the Territory MT. Don’t worry. They get much louder as they wear down. At 29000 now. Low speed sounds like truck is growling.

JB lower the tire pressure to 52-54 front and 46-48 in the rear. It will make a drastic difference. The Duratracs are loud and more so if you keep max pressure they will wear uneven and make a ton of noise. Get the falkin Wild peak AT3 or 4s coming out. It is still aggressive enough but I have found to be the quietest next to the BFG's.

@Alexander-fr1kk

4 ай бұрын

I use the Toyo M/T’s and they look great and are not loud at all.

@timmyrank3479

4 ай бұрын

I have the same truck as JB, the AT4X won't let you run the tire pressure that low without setting off the tire pressure light. In my testing the lowest you can run for the front is 53psi and the rear 50psi.

@Jassman3536

4 ай бұрын

Gotch..different than my Super duty. My rears have not set the light at 42 in the winter but I hit 46 in fronts this winter and the light came on. It helps that I have 65PSI tires..Im not really air down that much. 37 12.5x20@@timmyrank3479

@timmyrank3479

4 ай бұрын

@@Jassman3536 ya, I wish this was t the case. I miss my Ford and being able to use Forscan to change all the parameters.

I have a 24' 2500 AT4 ~ 6500 miles. I'm also having that issue. I notice when I'm going about 40-50 mph. I told the dealer when I did the first oil change and I'm pretty sure they didn't do anything. I still get that weird stumble. The service rep told me that I have to keep the truck in 2wd which i have been since i drove it off the lot.

I’ve had an 18,20,22,and now a 2024 Denali hd 3500 and every single one of these L5ps has had turbo surge very bad. If I’m going up a slight grade in about 7-8th right in the verge of a downshift when you can feel the truck bogging in low rpm the truck will just stumble on itself. I’ve tuned a few and change after market turbos nothing worked. The 2024 is much better with some of the newer designs but still does it especially now I have the 35s on it. Also same issues as previous models. Back sliding glass leaks, door panels all had bubbles under the wood inlays, I had to align the truck the first day it steered so hard left, and when I picked up the 24 I had to pdr the whole bed because they miss stamped the body line looked like someone threw a baseball at my truck.

I got a 2024 AT4 3500 in November and the outside b pillars didn't match. One side was glossy and the other side was the cheaper textured plastic. i can't believe QC didn't catch that. Had to take it back to the dealer to get the textured swapped out for the glossed trim under warranty.In a way i'm starting to feel like they are building as many as they can and allowing warranty to pick up what they would've fixed at the factory. Also, i do get a bit of hesitation when I step on it from about 40 mph. Not sure if that's the same thing as you.

I think they have a reflash for the trans issue. I’ve got a 24 Chevy 2500 gasser and it stutters/stumbles, around 25-40mph and normally up a slight hill. I was told they have a reflash and it fixed a few other guys trans. Might call the dealer, I’m calling mine tomorrow.

There's a experience hand over in all work places. A lot of big company's are offering retirement packages. The experience workers are retiring, 30 plus year guys and gals are leaving. So we might see some quality work take a hit.. 😏

In addition to the wild dealer markups at the time, I noticed the transmission surging sensation on a test drive of a Denali Ultimate, which both caused me to back out of the deal. The truck was otherwise sweet! Yes, those Territory MTs are loud, but it is strange how tire compound of the same tire design can change noise levels. The TRX uses a Territory tire as well and noise is next to non-existent(maybe the Hellcat drowned it out😂). It is also sad to read about the quality lapses, but that has been the game since 2020+ at most manufacturers. Not even Toyota is immune.

Been a sub since first gen Godzilla fseries (when ya didn't show that handsome smile. Lol) but what the shifting issue sounds like is the "hunting" effects of the 10spd hunting for proper gear at current speed at the moment. Example: when part throttling through gears under slight acceleration, they stack gears up onya cuz the "economic" reading of pcm . (Likely the cause) and hence when "tow haul mode is engaged" it holds gears (lower/longer, in powerband)

@claymontgomery4616

4 ай бұрын

That's what it sounds like, the 10-speed in my max tow '18 F150 hunts gears quite a bit. I've heard that Ford's 10-speed in the super-duties are the same way, but I guess that's a part of the beast

I have a 2024 GMC Sierra AT4HD Duramax and my transmission is doing the same thing. Not often but enough for people riding in it to say “what was that”.

I have around 3k on my 2024 3500 SWR and the transmission shuttered twice during the first 1k miles but hasn’t done it since.

Shift issues could be the transmission control module (TCM), I've seen a few heat related issues for this and cause the issues you're having.

You need to get a pedal monster from banks power you will love it.

Great video!

I got a 2024 Denali Ultimate 1500 on the 4th of December. January 8th I took it to the dealer with 3000 miles and very concerning noise coming from the truck. Today is the 27th of February and the truck is still in the shop waiting on a new backordered transmission. I am working with a lawyer for a replacement.

I have a 6.6 gas. My only complaint is an (exhaust?) squeal/whistle at 1400 RPM. And one screen freeze. Otherwise I enjoy it and I’m very pleased with the value.

I’m having the same transmission stumble with my 2024 Chevy 3500 SRW Diesel. Truck has 3000 miles.

It's the goodyear tires i have a1500 at4x and they were very loud

My brand new 24 AT4X is doing the exact same thing. It's like a lugging or something in the transmission. I thought it was slipping but I'm having the same issue. The 24 AT4 I traded in did not do it at all. Please let us know what you find out.

My 2024 AT4 has the same problem at between 45 and 50 mph. It's more of a bump shift to me. I'm hoping it's self correcting. Only have 1700 miles on it. Time will tell.

So my initial thought on this transmission thing is that 10th gear is probably just too tall for the speed you are traveling. I would bet you’re in 10th gear at 40 mph with the diesel too. The gas truck probably not that’s why you never noticed it. So that “stumble” is the same thing you would feel in a manual transmission vehicle when you’re in too high a gear for the speed under light acceleration. The reason I say this is because in tow/haul mode you don’t notice it and every GM truck I’ve had when you go to tow/haul mode it essentially locks out the top gear. And I wonder in the 10 speed if it’s not locking out 9th and 10th since they are so close. I don’t remember on my diesel what it did. So that would explain why it doesn’t do it in tow/haul mode, because you’re in potentially 8th gear or maybe 9th which are “slightly” shorter gears than 10th. Maybe a TCM reflash will help and just make the truck shift to 9th in those situations but I’d say you’re fixing to go down a rabbit hole here and you’re going to either hear “can’t duplicate the problem” OR they are going to throw parts at based off current TSBs. *edit* also the ZR2/AT4 does have 35” tires as compared to 33” or 34” for all the other trucks. So 1” does make the final drive gear ratios taller for all gears. That would also explain why you never noticed it in the 2023 AT4. I know you had 37s on your dually but at 40 mph it probably shifted to 8th or 9th anyway.

Well higher cost does NOT necessarily mean higher quality that's for sure. I'm in a position were I need to trade up to a 3/4 ton but probably going to keep it to a LT trim just to simplify. Love the looks of the ZR2 though.

Have a 2023 Denali 3500 11k on it same problem with the transmission

My trans kinda does the same thing, but at lower speeds while in traffic. If I'm costing at like 5 or 10 mph and I give it some gas, it jumps/stumbles is a good name for it. It doesn't happen all the time, and it happens less now that I have 12k miles on it. But still does once and a while. I have the 2500 SLE. I'll be looking for your update.

@rogercyr1551

4 ай бұрын

Exact same thing with mine, a '23 2500 Duramax Denali...personally, that kind of thing in that situation isn't a concern, if it works fine all the rest of the time, which it does. I live rural, so I'm rarely in "traffic", anyway.

@fullsailitis

4 ай бұрын

Same for me. Slower speeds (30-45) in traffic seems to bring it on more.

Do you know how to engage your rear locker. Do you need to be in neutral? Also would love a video of taking one to a ramp to observe flex limits

On tires, I was disappointed there wasn't an option to the Wranglers for my '23 2500 Denaii, because my driving is 95% highway. I didn't want or need A/T tires, and I can hardly wait to change them out for Continental TerrainContact H/T or Michelin Defender LTX. I wonder how many Denali models actually go "off road" (that's what the AT4X is for). IMO, there should be a "touring" trim package for the Denali; dump the chunky tires and skid plates and off-road shocks that highway rigs don't need.

The transmission in my 2024 duramax i feel like it stumbles all the time around 45-50 mph. I've also had the ECM replaced under 6000 miles.

My 2021 ultimate Denali had a right side mirror that would not fold in all the time. They replaced it.

My bud I work with he and I both bought trucks from the same deal the same day for work. He got the diesel 2500 and I got the trail boss 1500. Day one off the lot his auto start would not work right. Kept doing that off and on a week or more. Into the dealer 5 times, turns out the damn wiring harness wasn't hooked right and there were a hand full of wires loose. $76k and they want more money to assemble trucks and cars. Come on really? Simple things before you start demanding more money.

JB you got a truck that the UAW workers went on break too much on . Maybe they just didn’t care on your truck when it went through the production line . Lol idk

My 2024AT4X2500HD has had some warranty work. Radio screen freezing up every day (still does), lane keep/adaptive cruise control faults. Otherwise, I love it after 7200 mi since November.

@matthewmadill2706

3 ай бұрын

We have a VW and our infotainment screen freezes and restarts when two or more people in their car have the Bluetooth on. It is so dumb, and they can't fix it. So either my wife or me has to turn off the Bluetooth before getting in. Don't know if that info helps at all

Enjoy the channel JB! I don't have a need for a HD truck however, your AT4X makes me want one!!

Have you had any issues, or heard of anybody, with the leaf springs squeaking and clunking?

They do but that doesn't mean the connection in the mirror wasn't fully seated . And yes there is always a chance any connection wasn't fully seated and came loose. But we do our best to mitigate that with quality checks and rattle test. But it is never 100 percent. The fact that they gave you a new mirror tells me from my repair knowledge that the mirror was defective. We would do the same if it happened in the factory.

The mirror issue if it was just a plug they wouldn’t have ordered you a new mirror. But the mirror are a 3rd party part not GM built. The transmission is probably just a programming issue. Something they will probably work through that’s why they say don’t buy the first year of a truck. The tires well it is an off-road purpose truck so your going to get stiff tires and road noise.

GM along with everyone else has horrible quality control. My 24 3500 ultimate with 1700 miles has been in shop twice. Once had to get updated brake controller second front camera had to be replaced. My wife’s 23 Escalade platinum with 4k miles has been in shop 4 times with a list of issues. Uaw needs a pay decrease with their lack of care my 24 ultimate lower valance on the bumper has drill scratches from the incompetent that put the screws in it. Pretty disgusted with GM to say the least, oh and I had to argue to get the Escalade fixed first response was “parts are on back order” yet they continue to come off the assembly line.

I love that truck but the fact that it doesn't tell you what damn gear it's in is by itself enough to make me buy the Ford...

@Electricmanscott

4 ай бұрын

I have the same truck and I came from a Ford. It drives me nuts even though in every day use it doesn't matter. 😂

@2packs4sure

4 ай бұрын

Yeah,, I could live with it but it would bug me... @@Electricmanscott

@eric3030

4 ай бұрын

That, Ford giving actual numbers for temps and the ford sunroof is so much nicer. I do want/like the 4A in the GM though (live in Canada).

@2packs4sure

4 ай бұрын

Agreed @@eric3030

Anyone else have a whistle or pinging coming from what may be the pistons on a 24' 2500 AT4. I hear it at about 45mph. Any higher speed and the road noise drowns the sound out. The frequency of the noise increases with the engine speed. 5000miles on it ao far. Heard it since new. No other problems though. I havent had the dealer inpect it becuase they want to keep the truck for a week to diagnose it. But im like well it doesn't seem to be broke just a whistle noise. Is it a normal noise? No oil change yet.

Lower your tire pressure to minimum dealer guys put everything to max including tire pressure

JB, miss the old Ram yet?

My 2500 High Country still has a crooked steering wheel after 2 trips back to the dealer. What was I told..."They are all that way".

You said "UAW" and "better" in the same sentence ! They are mutually exclusive exclusive.

@jonathonsantamont8527

4 ай бұрын

UAW got better pay?

R u gonna put a lift kit?

Really? GM's have issues too?😮😂 Notice most of these comments are not Ram guys beating up on GM's that don't even own them. They are GM guys beating up on GM's. That is a great looking truck btw. Color is 🔥

As bad as I want a denali ultimate I might have to consider other options. These trucks should not be having these kind of issues so soon. Especially With a price tag 80k or more.

I’ve noticed on mine the tranny shift hard or delayed when either turning or just trying to accelerate. Only have 5600km on mine

My husband and I have a 2022 GMC with 80k miles. We’d purchase it off the showroom floor. It now needs an air compressor plus it has an oil leaking into the transmission! 7.,000 to repair! I was told that this truck always these issues. I will never purchase another GMC! It was our first and and time! Going back to Toyotas!

@MatkatMusic

4 ай бұрын

You're driving 30k miles per year?!?!?

Tire psi should be 35

Gotta love the 100k trucks.

Not shocked as GM and ford have nothing but problems for the last few years. Ram not as much and I have 2 rams that are 21 & 22 and had minor problems but were still driveable and could still tow.

Do you still have the Chevys?

Sorry but I missed what engine you have. Gas or diesel? I did notice the 12 mpg.

@jonathonsantamont8527

4 ай бұрын

He has a gen 2 L5P Duramax.

all looks but nothing else.

😅nice you rid like a MEXICAN Don't worry about durability just get a new one every year like a Mexican😅 And forget the deasel you get money to drive a new truck you can fill your gas tank

12.3 mpg with a diesel?? Seems there's little fuel savings over gas.....

@vicenteochoa6498

4 ай бұрын

Fuel savings are more noticeable while towing. Or just highway speeds. But with modern transmissions yeah that gap is getting narrower and narrower. Not worth it unless you’re towing heavy, often, or long distances.

@slidewide1999

4 ай бұрын

That’s absurdly low. My ‘22 Cummins on 35’s gets 17mpg mixed driving.

I have the same truck in black, when I bought it from the dealership a bunch of the trim pieces were damaged. My truck also has been in the shop 3 times for random tailgate, random check engine light, rear camera glitching, and tire pressure sensor. For the money and GMC stand on being a luxury brand the build quality is poor. Look into the banks products to fix your trans issue.

Your stumbling issue. Are you sure you're not hitting the pass-by mode?

if they build them any cheaper, they'll need to be towed off the assembly line.

Great LOOKING truck. But you can’t beat TOYOTA for quality and reliability.

@Billybob50119

4 ай бұрын

You obviously haven’t seen the amount of issues the new tundra is having

@gusm2752

4 ай бұрын

@@Billybob50119 No I haven’t. I have a Tacoma Second one since 2001 never an issue.

UAW or no UAW. It's an individual thing. A simple oversight or a worker not taking pride in their work. These types of things happens at both union and non-union plants. alike

You should have kept that F250 , 6.2 gas with 6 speed you had a couple years ago if you really want dependability , an I will never own another GM product, I have had way to much problems with GM products

Are you really getting 12 mpg? $95,000 and those problems?

I have a 2021 Sierra great truck but it has some problems. I planned on trading it in to get a new one but I haven’t yet because of the poor quality of the trucks. But I don’t blame the uaw worker for the problems I blame the engineers that designed the systems on these trucks. I’m holding on to my truck longer trying to decide if I want to trade for a different brand but seems like they all are having design issues. Way too much technology on these trucks these days.

The uaw does not set the price for the vehicle. The company is responsible for that. The company also sets the standard for quality. Believe me if it was up to us employees the company would be shipping perfect vehicles and losing money. There is only so much that we can do to resist the companies specs. Intermittent conditions like your mirror has no connection to the factory it's a vendor part. You cannot see this connection when assembly of the door is done. So let up on the people assembling the vehicles and push back on the company for accepting crappy specs.

@JPGwinn

4 ай бұрын

What about "quality control" do they run a check on all features?

Sounds like good ole American junk🤷🏻‍♂️ Love your videos tho👍🏻

Union basher.

Buy Ford or RAM

First things first you bought the truck and you didn’t even buy the Duramax really?? Second thinks you never let a dealer change your oil do it yourself if you actually plan on keeping the car that vehicle should see nothing but Amsoil in it but then again, it’s a gas or so doesn’t really matter.

Too much money for that quality independent that GM produces anymore I will never own another GM product ever again because of their junk

You can blame the UAW all you want, but they don't engineer the vehicle. The UAW doesn't manage GM's build system. You calling out the union is like saying the banks and politicians policies didn't cause the financial crisis in 2008.

blaming union labor for a TCM programming issue and wheels? #dobetter #solidarity

@Electricmanscott

4 ай бұрын

And not plugged in wiring harness. 🤣

@angrybeavers1175

4 ай бұрын

​@Electricmanscott no blame to the dealer that should have also caught that?

@thataveragechannel

4 ай бұрын

@@Electricmanscott if it were as simple as an unplugged connection on the mirror, the dealership wouldn’t have replaced the whole mirror.

FYI that is not a ALLISON transmission, GM purchased the trademark. That is one of the joint venture Ford/Gm 10 speeds, AND THEY ALL SUCK. After 7 years of production they all have major problems at low miles. American trucks are SCREWED.

@slidewide1999

4 ай бұрын

If it legally displays the Allison name, it’s an Allison.

@behnkeee

4 ай бұрын

@@slidewide1999 okeee, you should watch a “Allison” 10L tear down video and compare it to the ford 10r80🤯. It’s no coincidence they all started rolling out 10speed transmissions at about the same time. It’s a shame the fundamentals of this transmission are flawed, and everyone is using it. Also I think your content is good, and I enjoy watching it.

@jmad9294

4 ай бұрын

@@slidewide1999false. It’s Allison stamp of a approval. Not in fact an Allison. Manufactured by GM.

@behnkeee

4 ай бұрын

@@jmad9294 I know this is disturbing for many Chevy truck fans, but this is a case of corporate trickery, and they gotcha!

What a piece of junk. 100k and coping hard. Freedom of speech

GM trucks are complete Junk!!😢😢😢

The transmission skip shifts when not in tow haul mode and under low load, when in tow haul it shifts through all 10 gears.

@user-oq6bd1gw5s

4 ай бұрын

It's supposed to do that for milage. It's in the software programming

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OMG!!! Seriously??!!?? Lol You use conventional oil on your NEW truck?? That just shows you are a NOT a true truck/car geek. Just a content creator making money on uTube.