I'm not a fan of May's politics but IMO she was the last PM who was competent and tried to do what they thought was best for the country. Since she left office, it's been all egos and self-interest.

@veggie42

7 ай бұрын

That's because she let Boris in..Well it was David Cameron's fault. He held a referendum with leave and remain and not a reform question..The EU needs to reform and won't listen to this Brexit consequence..The EU isn't listening the UK has voted a revolution.. May more like Starmer in a way. Not a hard Brexiteer she couldn't carry it out and didn't need to. Bozo was with a Catholic. The CofE shows this. That speech was like the current Labour. Mental health/the class in education and the race thing. The Conservative Party doesn't conserve anything apart from itself! 😂

@neilburns8869

7 ай бұрын

Here, here. She was a vicar's daughter and you could see a lot of her decency and fairness as a person compared to the many other clowns who occupied No 10 Downing Street under the Conservatives.

@BasaiDai

7 ай бұрын

agreed. She was thrown under the bus by the Selfservatives and they should be (but won't be) thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

@Ulysses042

7 ай бұрын

@@ac583 I respectfully disagree. Nothing in her approach to politics has indicated to me that she's in any way selfless. I'd class Truss as "power hungry".

@davedogge2280

7 ай бұрын

I pretty much agree. She did inherit a bit of a messy situation

There is so much I disagree with Theresa May on but in a post Johnson world it’s hard not to have a lot of respect for her. She’s clearly a person who has shown a great deal of integrity.

@billypribbo9668

7 ай бұрын

Let's not whitewash it - the Tories have a remarkable trick of picking a new leader so awful that the last one seems ok next to them (ok, Boris and Liz are maybe exceptions to this rule) but this is Theresa "Citizens of nowhere", "Red, white and blue Brexit", "Go Home" May. She was a horrible Home Sec and a horrible PM. Ok, when she's in a low-pressure interview, she seems like someone who at least recognises what a principle is and can stay on subject for an entire sentence, which makes her a titan of statecraft next to Johnson - but I remember her being just as happy to play us and them politics when it suited her.

@WILLtTHOMPSON2906

7 ай бұрын

she never showed any integrity in Government

@JonniePolyester

7 ай бұрын

I agree but like Gordon Brown before her the integrity only gets you so far political nouse, person-ability and luck even are required in equal measures. Boris would have probably faired better had he had integrity.

@Afghamistam

7 ай бұрын

I find it very easy to have zero respect for her. Someone with actual integrity would, upon receiving the OBS report unequivocally stating "Brexit is a bad idea and is going to make us poorer for a long, long time" might have thought "Okay, I'll just forget the whole thing, take the political hit and resign". Someone with no integrity at all, would continue spending millions of pounds trying to ram the thing down the country's throat while mindlessly repeating "wIlL oF tHe pUblIc" - on the strength of a 49/51 split in a non-binding referendum.

@wacquantx

7 ай бұрын

how is it hard exactly?

Amazing that Sunak, Truss and Johnson make May look like a political heavyweight. I am a socialist and wouldn't agree with May on much at all, but at least she respected her office and didn't spread extreme-right conspiracy theories.

@jayr9952

8 ай бұрын

This is May's attempt to compare and contrast her record in office to that of Boris, Truss & Sunak. Don't be swayed by the soft speak and calm demeanor. TM is simply another version of horrendous politicians. Repeat after me - there are no respectable Tories.

@PMMagro

8 ай бұрын

She is more of civil servant type of character. Sadly uneeceatble that kind of politican. I like her style and way but not her political priorities and sollutions..

@gerryg1056

8 ай бұрын

Oh, really? Who was it who came up with the "hostile environment" policy?

@FictionJunction.M.

8 ай бұрын

@@gerryg1056 I'm not saying she was good. The hostile environment was one thing, but now we have Braverman using hate-stoking, fear-mongering, Nazi-like language to describe migrants and refugees. It's just not comparable.

@anonUK

8 ай бұрын

No, she just put the hatred on the side of a few vans and had them driven around ethnic minority areas...

Quite nice to hear an ex PM just speaking normally rather than having to put on the mask and act in the way we as a society have decided leaders should act.

@adamsubtract81

6 ай бұрын

Its amazing isn't it. Its almost like their humanity returns when they leave office

@MrBoliao98

6 ай бұрын

@@adamsubtract81 wait till Cleverly is out, she'd be the first person to be slotted in.

@liamoneill4706

5 ай бұрын

Instead of "we as a society" insert "the american government"

"The vans were wrong" understatement of the year.

@Julia-om5cl

7 ай бұрын

Why is it? illegal people unwelcome

@sheep3370

7 ай бұрын

Why were they wrong? Genuine question

@TehScareM8

7 ай бұрын

advertising the law is wrong?

@Victoriacariad

7 ай бұрын

The problem with the vans is that it was all talk and no action. Actually doing your job as the home secretary/priminister and deporting illegal immigrants is far more important than driving a bus around. I can't decide if it was incompetence on the government's side, or if it was the civil servants or an outside organisation like the ECHR.

I really appreciate adding the photos, names and dates of relevancy of the politicians & people from the past who a young person like myself may not recognise. Helps to follow the conversation without getting lost or googling who’s who.

She was responsible for the Windrush scandal then let Amber Rudd take the blame. Shameful.

@huwzebediahthomas9193

8 ай бұрын

Yep! She's just another Adolf

@tanveerhasan2382

8 ай бұрын

Sad

@davidberrell4725

8 ай бұрын

Not sad! Calculated and culpable.

@sara-jayn

8 ай бұрын

Amber Rudd let herself take the blame.

@shacklock01

8 ай бұрын

I mean...out of the two, it was probably more beneficial to let Amber Rudd commit political seppeku. She was a bit of an empty placeholder anyway from what I recall.

I love this podcast really doing well at bringing moderate politics back to the forefront

@ally11488

8 ай бұрын

I'd assume you'd be having kittens if Campbell interviewed Corbyn?

@rickchros1919

8 ай бұрын

@@ally11488 no I think that’d be really really interesting lol

@ally11488

8 ай бұрын

@@rickchros1919 Apologies. All the same I feel Campbell wouldn't entertain it.

@rickchros1919

8 ай бұрын

@@ally11488 possibly not with it being very much not a secret how much the Labour left and Blairites despise one another

@antonoat

7 ай бұрын

I’d agree entirely if Alistair Campbell wasn’t part of it! 🤣👍

What an incredibly tepid interview, I feel they missed a chance to be more direct about tory policy over the past decade. Then again she probably wouldn't have said yes to the interview if that was the case.

Yah yah yah go home vans environment go spin Theresa.

As others have commented, I wasn't a fan of May's politics but she always struck me as a decent person who had a lot of integrity and a genuine belief in what she was trying to do. Feels very much at odds with all those that have followed her.

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Are you having me on? Next you'll be telling me the one about the Tory who gave a flying fuck. Oh how my sides ached when I heard the old bint spout on about 'the burning injustice' of poor mental heath privision while presiding over the decimation of said services. Wake up muppets We've been mugged off. Class War!!!

What she did as home secretary is the reason public services are in the trouble they are. She destroyed community policing and ripped the budget to shreds. This is partly why we are in the strife we are. When the Police Federation challenged the cuts she accused them of "Crying wolf" awful home secretary.

@neilbirch8431

8 ай бұрын

@@tonysadler5290 yep, same here, I left in 2017 after 15 years. The cuts finished me off, changed me as a person, single crewing to violent incidents, ridiculous case loads , I had to get out, I have never looked back.

@belindathorne9784

8 ай бұрын

All built on the myth (lie) which she continues to repeat - that we were on the brink of a Greece style meltdown.

@ellastarrr1st149

8 ай бұрын

Yes very true !

@Bertrum123

7 ай бұрын

True and shes as guilty as the rest .

@veggie42

7 ай бұрын

Osborne .Very controlling

I’ve never known nearly an hour disappear so fast. Looking forward to next week

Excellent discussion. I think politicians would be seen to have healthier moral compasses if they didn’t accept donations from shady individuals, or have second jobs. Personally, I think these two factors are the biggest compromises to a politicians integrity. The crack down on conflicts of interest has been laughable.

@myce-liam

7 ай бұрын

I don't agree with much of May's philosophy. I agree with your statement but i think like May stated, the media have a big role to play as well. They can heavily damage or destroy a politician's reputation rapidly if they don't sing their tune. So they're the politician's are beholden to them as well.

Despite disagreeing with her in many ways, I always felt intuitively that you could at least trust her underlying aim's to genuinely make things better - could never be in doubt. She has never me struck me as self serving as 95% of politicians do.

@madzangels

6 ай бұрын

She's kinda hot too

@rsb8380

Ай бұрын

The worst bit about her time in power is she actually managed to get probably the best deal we could get with Brexit which would have minimised the harm done, but she was ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked over it. The result is a shit show of a Brexit that will have wide-reaching, irrevocably damaging, negative consequences, for decades to come.

@madzangels

Ай бұрын

@@rsb8380 I find people who still bang on about Brexit and it's negative consequences, at this stage, mind numbingly boring. Deal was done, move on. I hope you don't throw that kind of negativity at the children, it's just offering an excuse for failure. If you really think a 'state' can dictate your well being, then I suggest you change your philosophical view of politics and life - I'd suggest classical liberalism. Turn a negative into a positive, turn a a problem into an opportunity and stop relying on the state to dictate how you feel about tomorrow.

As someone who is not....er naturally sympathetic to the Tories I found the interview very interesting and have a much greater respect for Theresa May than before. I am saddened and concerned by the knee jerk partisan comments as they demonstrate just how badly polarised our politics have become. I don't understand, why watch the interview unless prepared to reflect on one's instinctive bias?

@kratos.8151

8 ай бұрын

It sort of made her a little more human. shame she's still racist scum.

@liamdevine8063

8 ай бұрын

You can never expect to understand someone who can not differentiate between shared reality and their own perspective.

@Red1Green2Blue3

8 ай бұрын

I don't think the comments are knee jerk? Many (most even) are saying they don't agree with her politics (rightly so because she is responsible for a lot of terrible stuff) but respect that she has principles and respected the office she held.

@liamdevine8063

7 ай бұрын

@@Red1Green2Blue3 May spent her career as a far right zealot. Some people see her downfall to farther right, even madder zealots as tragic but I personally always see the beauty in irony.

@hamsterminator

7 ай бұрын

@@liamdevine8063 May a "far right Zealot"?? What did you regard Corbyn as? a Centrist? Embarrassingly narrow view of the world if you think that.

In the final section (Being a woman in politics) I was surprised and disheartened to hear that even recently, some male MP's attitudes towards Ms May were still so patronising. What does that tell us about their attitude towards half the population?

Love this. Moderate sensible conversation instead of far right off the wall populist bullshit we have coming from today’s Conservative government.

@AscendingGoogle123

6 ай бұрын

A far right government that just let in 1 million immigrants into the country in a single year. Wow, how far right and "fascist" of them!

As an outsider (American) looking in I am encouraged because the podcast has given a platform for people of opposite views to have a discussion expressing their views with respect for others views. It is what I believe to be missing in the US. As mentioned in the 12th minute this episode. Hopefully by having others around the globe seeing differing views expressed with respect can break people out of the echo chambers we find ourselves exposed to more and more. Thank you all for this and keep up the excellent work.

@JupiterThunder

6 ай бұрын

Theresa May was a useless, hopeless disaster as PM. We have had a litany of leftist clowns and traitors as PM since Thatcher, and Britain right now is "circling the plughole". We're practically a third world country now, with no industry and no economy. Our military is woke and almost non-existent and recently the US military told Britain its armed forces are now at a joke level and the UK can no longer be regarded as a serious military force, or even a serious country. Regrettably I have to agree with that assessment, and it's the likes of Theresa May that has destroyed Britain.

@andycundy5822

4 күн бұрын

Because they all generally have the same views, Alastair Campbell was a Bush puppet who is responsible for millions of death in Iraq and Middle East. He was sat in the commons nodding to all the lies Blair was presented to the commons, to borrow Alan Bennnetts word…Alastair was nodding to all the lies on WMD like a dog in a back of the Fiesta.

She is delusional, the Tories never helped anyone but their selves, their pointless austerity policy says it all and the reason the country and public services have been run into the ground.

@bertrandrussell894

8 ай бұрын

That is such a simplistic thing to say. That *must* be hyperbole... you cant really think " then never helped anyone"?. Thats quixotic and wrong.

Her comments about being an MP are very telling and show a respect for Parliament. I respect MP's who maintain an interest in their constituents. I cannot see Nadine Dorres, Johnson et al taking the slightest interest in the people who voted for them. Many years ago, I was told a story about Dennis Skinner by a well off land owner in his Bolsover constituency who had a Right of Way issue. He told Skinner that he never voted for him but was told not to worry about that, he would take up his issue and try to assist.

She is an old school tory both in policy, style and presentation. But she indulged Johnston and the far right when she was in office and look where it got her.

@adamlee3772

8 ай бұрын

Indulging Johnson is the worst thing anyone or any organisation should have ever done. Not just May.

@ajsctech8249

8 ай бұрын

@@adamlee3772 This was a terrible interview.Campbell was clearly muzzled as the price to pay for getting a former prime minister interview.May is still ill at ease, wooden and weird. She put Johnston in a prominent job at the Foreign affairs because she lacked the balls to dump the prick on his arse. She didn't take on the right wing Brexit extremists in her party and they sunk her premiership. Sunak is making the same mistakes.Until the tories. become a centre right party and purge their party of the right wing Brexit nutters then they are screwed. Why are the current Tories all so wooden and weird? At least Cameron despite his poshness was reasonably normal.

The importance of watching interviews should never be underestimated. Podcast interviews, that one listens to only, don't do justice to either the interviewee or the interviewer as one does not get to see reactions/body language all of which provide greater insight and understanding. Really enjoyed watching the interview!

Best politics podcast around. Just the best honest, real, clear, humanising, considered interviews. It’s like being in a back room of Westminster

Gentlemen - you are doing a great service. This level of conversation should always be present in any democracy. It should be present when the people are in power if possible.

Dont get me wrong I've never been a fan of Theresa May, but she had the guts to sit down and listen to the families of those that lost loved ones at Hillsborough and then take on and deal with the issues and is still pressing for justice. Nice to see grown ups having a discussion, instead of children shouting at each other.

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Still. Can't see the old nag winning any pals Merseyside way. The UK is full of mugs. FFS look at Brexit. A curse on Tories. LABOUR. NEW OLD NOT SURE LIB DEMS. Dr please I need medication. Sorry son nothing left in the cabinet. Got took it for HS2/ Brexit/ Backhanders to Lord and Lady Muck on the covid gravy train. "Gee chuck ain't the UK swell?" "Why yes Marnie. Well all gotta that God, Prince Andrew, and the Great Architects Maggie and her beau Ronnie Reagan

When she became home secretary in May 2010, England/Wales had about 143,700 police officers. When she left the office in July 2016, there were 123,000 left.

@deanunio

8 ай бұрын

And how much did Osbourne cut her budget……

Fantastic interview, thank you all involved in providing this on KZread!

I Love Theresa May! Didn't like her politics, hate brexit, but I like her a lot. Bright, intelligent, well-educated, responsable, hard-working, smart, well-read, polite woman.

@PeachesandCream225

8 ай бұрын

LOL this is the women who deported British citizens because they were black... Jesus you really believe that any psychopath who talks nice in a little podcast is a good person. Look at her actions, not her words!

@steffantherock

8 ай бұрын

*Responsible

@Emmeeats

8 ай бұрын

I think you've missed the point of the podcast. At 13:00 they literally discuss a person's politics, over character. You shouldn't "love" a political figure but "dislike their politics". Their politics is who they are...

@elaineedgar2913

8 ай бұрын

Really? Do you really think so? Well you can fool most of the people most of the time etc., etc., This is the woman who gave an interview about the poor in Britain, WEARING hugely expensive leather trousers!!!

@devilgod136

8 ай бұрын

So you love a xenophobe.

This is a much needed space. Thank you.

Say what you want about May, she is right about populism politics. Still an old fashioned, outdated lunatic, especially when she talked about the Tories wanting to 'raise people up'. Actual mental take.

@Rory626

8 ай бұрын

Gobsmacked at the audacity with which he said that after the last 13 years of austerity and wage stagnation

@shacklock01

8 ай бұрын

@@Rory626 funny isent it, they still spout this shite when literally the only time things have been going up and up in all metrics for the last fifty years is the Blair era. They've had just as long in power and have done fuck all but carry on like good little neo-liberals and ransack the house whilst its on fire.

@annishilcock4587

8 ай бұрын

Some one who says she believes in social justice and upholding the law and who was resposible for the Hillsborough inquiry is a outdated lunatic. Hmmmm Mental take indeed but perhaps not hers.

@dominicbritt

8 ай бұрын

??? She opened the door to the crazy people! She appointed Johnson as Foreign Secretary! But at least she’s polite and CofE eh?

@lolly1811

8 ай бұрын

Also her comments about there being nothing wrong with the political system. What nonsense!

A very decent person.....and good PM..... In a difficult party

@claudiushempstead9893

7 ай бұрын

How can anyone or anything control that Ego infested political party. All trying to climb over each other to get power make money. Even though when they are in the death throes of a deeply damaging term. They would want to win the next general election. To do what? That is the question we need to ask ourselves. Commit this political party to the dustbin of history.

Great debate, all thee great people, thank you. :-)

I'm interested in why helping the rehabilitation post Windrush?

Excellent. Love the balanced presentation and knowledge and snippets of background and clarity when mentioning someone’s name - or an instance in history. Used to see Theresa shopping in Waitrose in Twyford. Nice to hear her views.

Her biggest regret should be her record in office, particularly as Home Office minister. She is now only able to whitewash her career because of the utter shambles that has followed her.

@markwatkins8309

8 ай бұрын

Yes, exactly right. With a book out she can present what she didn't do as if she'd done it! Don't buy it! The BS.

Sir Humphrey Appleby would be grinning from ear to ear….. superb interview 🫡

@bythebreach

8 ай бұрын

This is a British democracy Bernard!

Never ceases to amaze me that Ex-Tory Leaders always seem so nice and reasonable when it's not them directly responsible for the dire state of today, it's almost as if they weren't swivel-eyed loons with disasterous personal beliefs that left the Country a mess when they got the boot after all......

@danw5760

8 ай бұрын

Has it occurred to you that maybe your media sources influenced your perception of her?

@orangutanfan3179

8 ай бұрын

She actually used Liam Byrne's joke about their being no money left as a basis for arguing why austerity was a good idea. Scratch the surface and she's just as warped as she ever was.

@johnalbent

7 ай бұрын

​@orangutanfan3179 everyone promised austerity in 2010. Darling, Osborne and Cable all said the cuts would be deeper than Thatcher.

@OptimusMonk01

7 ай бұрын

lol you mean, the 100% of media sources that are owned by tory supporting billionaires?@@danw5760

@GrahamRead101

7 ай бұрын

Ever thought you’ve been fed a line by a) the press and b) the more extreme of the opposition

She certainly cut the police force by extreme numbers,and now there still trying to recruit them

@dominicbritt

8 ай бұрын

That’s the reason why the Police heckled her as Home Secretary…

i totally disagree with her politics but she's always come across (to me at least) as a decent person unlike all the other PMs from 2010 on

@buzzukfiftythree

7 ай бұрын

'Decent person' and 'Tory'? It was May who created the 'hostile environment' that caused, amongst other things, the Windrush scandal. That was not the act of a 'decent person' in my book, especially given she's the daughter of a C of E clergyman. Can't say I have much faith but, from what bits of the new testament I am aware of, Jesus taught compassion. Not much of that under her stint as Home Secretary.

@oliverleonard7730

7 ай бұрын

Cameron was also good as well but the last 3 a complete joke. @@buzzukfiftythree

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Decent my arse. (With apologies to Ricky Tomlinson)

She failed to investigate the Russian involvement in Brexit when she had the chance.

@krishnan-resurrection714

8 ай бұрын

Sunak is indian not russian .

May is one of the reasons why this country is in the state its in. Decimated the Police both as home secretary and PM and we have never recovered. Wonder why police don't turn up to a lot of reported crimes. Thank this lady and David Cameron.

@GrahamRead101

7 ай бұрын

As they said in the interview. Things are just not that black and white.

@StopTheRot

7 ай бұрын

Ah, another black/white view point. Big up the populists 🤦‍♂️

I can’t stand her. Her attempts to curb immigration were punishing and inhumane. After committing the apparent sin of marrying someone not from Britain, it’ll have cost us over £10,000 for them to eventually become a British citizen, a stressful process that will have taken over 5 years when all done. If we didn’t have the funds, or a job paying above the required threshold, we simply wouldn’t be able to be together. All so May as Home Secretary and then PM could claim the have cut immigration numbers and appease Mail and Sun readers. No concern for how damaging her policies were to normal people. And this seeped into every aspect of her immigration policy. Then has the audacity to sob when she lost her job.

Very interesting conversation between three people who genuinely listen to each other and put their points of view with clarity.

So happy to have stumbled across this. Like my view of Rory, I've always admired Mrs May. Lovely to see you folks talk politics - really fascinating to have this window into this conversation

@importantjohn

7 ай бұрын

@@Denis.Collinsi suspect you are the dangerous one

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Gotta thing for vicar's daughters then red? Sorry. Blue. Passed myself laughing when she did that Maybot dance. Never trust a Tory (or Labour/Libdem/ Jimmy's Secret Army😅

All I can say about May is that she isn't completely stupid (by Tory standards), shes just wrong.

@b4dTechno

8 ай бұрын

and racist

@annishilcock4587

8 ай бұрын

In your view. She might think you are wrong.

@trippymchippy8586

8 ай бұрын

@@annishilcock4587 yep, she likely would.

@bertrandrussell894

8 ай бұрын

@@b4dTechno "Racist" is such a facile and meaningless concept now. Its thrown around literally everywhere.

@oliverdesvaux

8 ай бұрын

If you say Tories are all dumb, then you’re slagging off 90% of this country’s private schools 🤣 Eton, Harrow, Haileybury etc

Calm, rationale, knowledgeable discussion - about politics? Where is the yelling! the Insults! the petty partisan sniping! As an American born in the UK, this is amazing. Actually, it is quite entertaining but also very informative for those of us outside the UK.

Never listened this before but I think holding the feet to the fire on the hostile environment should have been stronger.

@chriscarter2840

8 ай бұрын

Yes: the abuse of power starts with an utter failure of the Home Office to treat those unfortunate enough to have to deal with it as fellow humans. Much follows from this lack of compassion and humanity. It is cultural - did Theresa may attempt to address it?

@alecporter1784

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely not, I think she's only trying to recast herself as a great PM and gloss over her egregious policies. @@chriscarter2840

@veggie42

7 ай бұрын

Red Ed and Yvette Cooper? I'd not have her as a Home Sec..No good..Labour needed fresh blood. Philipson not good as an Education Sec..

In my 70's, I have voted conservative all my life - I suppose because my family did - but will NEVER vote conservative again, after this last 3 years of appalling conservative rule, and appalling characters in charge. But for all her faults, I would rather have Theresa May as UK Prime Minister than any of the clowns that have recently been foisted on us. She is at least serious and authentic - whether you agree with her or not

@stephenconway2468

8 ай бұрын

Good comment sir. I listened to John Major recently, and boy did I feel the same. People may be right or wrong, but there should be ability and a semblance of integrity.

@Ronanbart564

8 ай бұрын

Too little too late, your generation has put my principality into tremendous stress. How you sleep at night is beyond me.

@coolio2000

8 ай бұрын

you have contributed to messing up this country so badly that it is virtually unfixable.

@alidawson6118

8 ай бұрын

@@Ronanbart564 well said 👏

@alidawson6118

8 ай бұрын

3 yrs? Don't you mean 13? Don't expect anyone to sympathise with you as people like you are the reason this country is in this state. Are you actually looking for sympathy from people because you are selfish and looking after no:1 and not thinking of others? You would rather have May as PM, really? I hope she rots in hell, she's cold, callous , heartless. Remember Windrush, remember Grenfell? No, I don't suppose you do.

Quite a lot of soft questions I feel here... support for the book really. I don't feel her (in my view) weak legacy of government, poor election and attempts to steer Brexit over the line were given really any scrutiny. It's on these points history will really remember her.

a wonderful, insightful podcast......finally a normal discussion about different views and opinions of people who are listening to eachother! I am not a conservative, but I love to hear Rory and Theresa make their arguments, it helps understand the essence of politics. I do not believe progressives and conservatives are that far apart in what they want to achieve....

Very good interview with a politician of integrity. Looking forward to part 2.

The Tories believe in social justice??? At that point I knew she was talking nonsense.

@PMMagro

8 ай бұрын

Yes, all power to fellow Etonians.

As an Irish person living in Ireland I have great regard for Mrs May

@oliverdesvaux

8 ай бұрын

Please explain

@deanunio

8 ай бұрын

@@devilgod136why? You like division I suppose. It’s 2023 move on

As an ex pat Brit this is an absolute joy to listen to. I’ve been gone nearly 35 years so I do appreciate the pauses for explainers to those who need a brief reminder on the back story of some issues. Thanks for the whole team involved …

Love yourPodcas, gentlemen. It is interesting, relevant and informative. Thanks😅

320k dead. This woman caused so much suffering for the poorest and most vulnerable during her reign.

This was actually a really good podcast. Sensible conversation between people who share political differences in a civilised way!

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Don't let her off the hook old chap. She's just another venal blue rinse tory with a bit of Tufton Street window dressing. What what

I love it that this is a place for grown up conversation

Never been a tory myself but Mrs May was the old school variety. This latest bunch simply aren't in her class. Boris culled most of the thinking ones

@bw1376

7 ай бұрын

May wasn't an old-school conservative. She's a centrist globalist like Blair.

I can see the advantage of moving the centre of government physically North and spreading the population more uniformly. Politics is too stuck in the South of England .

She genuinely did her best. She had a degree of integrity unlike anyone who has come since. I'm no Tory but I would happily swap her for sunak

I still dont understand why they burned peoples boarding cards. The maritme museum burned evidence of peoples arrival... why did that happen?

This was refreshing. Always felt sorry for her, came to No. 10 at an impossible time. Not aligned with her politics, but I’m glad she’s still an MP.

There are few politicians who have been so wrong so often, but get this much sympathy

@zanmato3041

7 ай бұрын

Ha true! The clown show that came after her was the best thing that could have happened for her. Boris et al made her look reasonable and disguised her disastrous home secretary policies. Same for Cameron & Osbourne. They should breathe a collective sigh of relief that Boris took the heat off their legacy with his despicable buffoonery.

@mukuzChannel

7 ай бұрын

@zanmato3041 this is it! She was a horrible at both her main jobs, and yet we all seem to have collectively forgot/glossed over it. She doesn't get enough stick for her "oversight" for what led to the Windrush matter

So glad you’re starting to show the episodes on KZread - I listen to the podcast but I prefer watching!

@noworriesnoproblems6382

6 ай бұрын

Does it not upset you seeing Alistair Campbell hands and all the blood on them?

May is in complete denial about what Conservatism as actually is (in terms of how it affects people, not just her idealistic version of it)

@davecross4493

8 ай бұрын

I think a lot of conservatives are. I think people.born into wealth generally haven't had the same life lessons to be able to weather storms and run things in an efficient way

@marklast7032

8 ай бұрын

You watch GB news dont you- you must be very clever and understand the detail of issues.

@verityviolet

8 ай бұрын

Rory is much the same.

@joemunkey

8 ай бұрын

All of the "reasonable" conservatives are like that

@fordprefect1925

8 ай бұрын

Out of interest why have you concluded this person must watch gb news rather than say novara media?

Thank you for that great interview! I hope we will see Obama and other important politicians in the future. Looking forward for part 2!

I heard her interviewed by Kim Hill in NZ and the relentless pushing of her book which pointed the finger at everyone else. If I hear "Well in my book....." one more time I could be ill. Government (as Rory points out via endless compromises and deals) abuses power at every turn. Public servants and others will take their cue from the leaders. I was not charmed or convinced she is any different from others. You can be 'nice' and also ineffective. Sorry to go across the grain and be critical but she made me cranky and she is boring to listen to (unkind I know). Go well.

Great guest, fantastic to See her working hard to explain and expand on political issues. Well done Rory and Alister. Keep educating and enlightening the people, please. Great show 9 out of 10. A grade information.

I admire this lady ! she is so eloquent to a point that when I listen to her, I don't want her to stop.

Fascinating. Thank you, all three of you. Theresa May is probably the most decent human being to sit in Number 10 since John Major (possibly also Gordon Brown). Looking forward to the follow up. She was certainly handed Pandora's political box and part of her party threw away the key.

What an indictment of the Tories to have chosen May,Johnson and then the silly schoolgirl Truss to assume the mantle of Prime Minister of this nation.

Great video, thanks Matt! The costs you quote for getting alloy wheels refurbished always seem pretty reasonable to me. Can you reveal where you go to get this done? Thanks. 😊

Really enjoyed this!

Her biggest regret is not fiddling her expenses claims a lot more

Please upload more episodes to KZread, regardless of which platform I'm on, I cant get the podcasts to download in Iran even when using a vpn.

Conservative politicians, no matter which country you find them, share two features: One, they are in utter (and often disingenuous) denial that a large number of people are in difficult circumstances, despite protestations to the contrary, and that require government intervention to "lift them up." Two, they are endlessly self-promotional, never missing a chance to take credit for things that went well and deny responsibility for poor decisions. Theresa May is experienced enough to know how to embody these two features in a relatively inoffensive manner, at least compared to recent populist incarnations. But, Rory chose to separate himself from the party when the chasm between his values and the party's became undeniable and unbearable. He also does not seem as comfortable being a self-promoter, even though he's rather good at it in a genuinely humble way. As so often is the truth, the leaders we need are those men and women who are reluctant to step (back) into a political system that rewards, elitists, egomaniacs and apologists and ignores people who genuinely want to serve their constituents and the nation. I sincerely hope Rory that you hold May's feet to the fire on her contention that fundamental changes to the structure of Britain's parliamentary democracy are not necessary. I'm sure you agree they are not only essential, but long overdue. The requirement for party members to tow the line, despite their moral objections is anathema to a true democracy, as is the peerage system. Alistair and Rory make a fine counterpoint duo, however it does get rather tiresome watching Alistair constantly seeking opportunities to catch people out and say "gotcha," simply because they are or were on the other sides of an issue in which he is or was involved. He is definitely not the type of person who is needed in elected office, because we need to rid the system of pettiness, not see further divisiveness, even if it's cloaked as "healthy banter."

@markwelch3564

8 ай бұрын

Can I offer one observation? I feel party coherency and loyalty is natural and desirable - it is impossible to act alone, so groups are inevitable Our problem is a system that forces people into one of two ridiculously broad camps - we need a multi party system where both voters and politicians can find a group that is a natural size to naturally share values. The big parties are too big for natural coherency

@katalinrobin6222

8 ай бұрын

According to my experiences the mentioned description of conservative politicians fit exactly the left wing ones.

@markwelch3564

8 ай бұрын

@@katalinrobin6222 where did you find a left wing politician? They're a rare breed!

@0w784g

8 ай бұрын

UK spends more on welfare than ever. Whatever you may think of so-called "conservative" politicians, the UK is truly enourmous welfare spender.

@markwelch3564

8 ай бұрын

@0w784g much of which is for people in work, because we have embarrassingly low wages in this country for many roles 🙁

Great interview. I'm a raging leftie and would spontaneously combust if I ever entered a church, yet this interview was very engaging. Watching you two batting May around was fascinating. I call out the interaction at 40:30 in particular. The sign language is such a sign of good cooperation. You're as if Becker and Federer were ever playing doubles, on the same team. Keep it up.

@noworriesnoproblems6382

6 ай бұрын

Does it bothered you Campbell is responsible for more suffering and death of children then most people in the history of the world? Or not?

@klumhru

6 ай бұрын

@@noworriesnoproblems6382 The Iraq 2003 war did bother me at the time, yes, as did the 2001 Afghanistan invasion. Blair, Bush, Saddam, and the others directly involved would not make the list of people I'd trust with my children, should I choose to have any. Given the relativity of the question though, no, it didn't bother me as much as reading about Stalin, Pol Pot, Baden-Powell, Hitler, Mao, Putin, or others of their ilk. I did read enough history for that. However, while I keep it at the back of my mind, I do not focus on that when listening to podcasts. It would seem you do, and all I do is hope that it doesn't overly close your mind to nuance and the free exchange of ideas, regardless of their originator.

Excellent dialogue

I wish they dug more into why they did the vans, when the problem with it was so obvious. Could have really shone a light on how bad and toxic politics is promoted by the system as it is now. Also would have liked to see May pressed harder on what she did to the police, and how the state they are in now derives from her decisions.

@drdreel5559

7 ай бұрын

On the vans specifically she's said previously that the idea of the vans was already in progress when she arrived at the home office and that if she had her time again she would have stopped them. It's not clear whether she was even aware. She is loyal to the party but my impression is that May doesn't just make things up, so there is probably some truth in that.

@trytwicelikemice3190

7 ай бұрын

@@drdreel5559 Thanks for that! Do you know where she said it?

@drdreel5559

7 ай бұрын

@@trytwicelikemice3190 I THINK one of LBC, Times Radio or Radio 4 at the time of the book launch. Doesn't narrow it down much in afraid!

@trytwicelikemice3190

7 ай бұрын

@drdreel5559 I'll google it, thanks anyway!

Theresa May: "My biggest regret is the fact that I was totally fucking shit at everything."

Dignified, measured and thoughtful. There’s much to criticise Mrs May for, and plenty she did as Home Sec and PM with which I disagree, but the current crop of politicians could learn a lot from her.

I enjoyed the banter

I listened to the pod cast. I don’t vote Tory, but I felt after listening that here was the last actual genuine politician the Tory’s had as a prime minister. I thought she came across really well.

@ikyiky167

8 ай бұрын

As genuine as she is, our bar is now so low she comes across as empathetic and endearing. Don't forget her tenure in the Home Office, the "Hostile environment" etc.

As a libdem/lab, ive no doubt the country would be better off now if may had been PM during covid.

@0w784g

8 ай бұрын

In what sane world is a LibDem/Lab a cogent political choice? One should be antithetical to the other. There is no choice.

Some of the worst people in politics in this room, the only people missing are blair, corbyn, and diane abott

'Price of everything and value of nothing' - Thank you for that.

Unbelievable! All May wants to do is try and re-write the consequences of the dreadful policies that she enacted during her time as one of the most damaging Home Secretaries that we have seen in modern politics, and to blame her failure as PM trying to deliver a sensible Brexit (an oxymoron if ever there was!) on anyone other than herself. Fortunately, she will be judged in the long term on the consequences of her failures by political historians. And the judgement will be deservedly harsh.

I think May's talk about "fairness" regarding immigration is a great example of conservative philosphy. Earlier she talks about the Conservatives being the party that raises people up but it's clear that it is just as important (if not more important) to bring down and punishing "wrong-doers". It is so important that they are punished that it justifies innocent people being caught up in the process.

Great interview.

@mrmacmcdermott

8 ай бұрын

@margaret-yr6uh lol what's wrong with a good stretch!

I would have thought Maybot’s biggest regret was when it upgraded its operating system software to Maybot v2.0 which had a robodance programme that caused it to do the Iggie-biggie-biggie dance every time it detected music.

Shameful attempt at rebranding this shameless, corrupt individual.

Never ask a Tory how they feel. It just confuses them.

So when she said 'Brexit means Brexit' she was lying through her teeth... just like 99% of all MP's

We didn't know how good we had it back then - Johnson, Truss and Sunak have shown what a good PM May was.

@user-hv5uy7ct6g

7 ай бұрын

No, May was terrible and 3 after were and are even worse.

Never fails to be interesting and entertaining. Thanks guys.

@PAUL-ge1kl

6 ай бұрын

Don't use that word Guy (Guy) You sound like you wear red jumbo cords waiting for the trust fund to show up😮

Imagine actually calling Theresa may One of your political heroes. That’s just sad Rory

@dreamcrusher112

8 ай бұрын

He is a Tory at heart.

@asangster6582

8 ай бұрын

What’s it got to do with you who his political hero’s are?

@Jordothecat98

8 ай бұрын

@@asangster6582 firstly, please learn how to spell champ. Secondly, it’s called an opinion. The same as every other reply in the comments. Hope that wasn’t too hard for you to understand. Let me know if you need me to go even slower.

40:00 that book drop was masterful. wow

I wish she was half as sensible during her time as the PM as she came across during this interview. What a contrast!