So let me get this straight. Op on the ground getting kicked (nothing) getting head stomped (nothing) getting beat with a stick (still nothing)yet after the other guy gets jumped she's freaking out and drives him to the hospital? She chose her man and It wasn't op.

@alexdhamp

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! And yet, she claims she loves the OP? Bullshit...

@f687sNFM

6 ай бұрын

​@@alexdhampshe only wants op cuz of his money

@nevermusic

6 ай бұрын

Thats probably the most concerning thing. The other stuff can be fixed in counseling (Assuming what she said is true ), but thats supposed to be your person. She shoulda had his back. Thats the hardest thing to forgive.

@RaidersAndRecorders

6 ай бұрын

It was one of the other girls that drove Mark to the hospital.

@mohamohai3932

6 ай бұрын

Forgiveness is one thing but getting back with her is seriously stupid

If Mark was that persistent in going behind OP’s back to confess to his girl in addition to talking badly about OP, she should’ve realized their friendship is not worth valuing. She should’ve told him

@JapanesePiano1

6 ай бұрын

☕

@Maninawig

6 ай бұрын

I am not a psychologist, but it sounds like she might suffer from a psychological need to be needed. If this is the case, then helping Mark would be similar to an addiction, rendering her blind to all the negative aspects. In short, her morality was in tact enough not to go past kissing (unlike cheaters), but her need to be needed should be addressed in therapy so that it can be properly regulated.

@IshanShome

6 ай бұрын

​@@ManinawigI think she is very pathetic and careless. For an instance let us assume what she said is true then I think she was really upset for marks mental health and that's why she never told her boyfriend and she also mentioned that she was black mailed due to false allegations made by Mark that can be a thing also. Even though I won't consider it as cheating because mark was the one who tried to assault her .

@bruhmania7359

6 ай бұрын

@@Maninawig wah wah. no excuse for being a bad person.

@MynameisBrianZX

6 ай бұрын

@@IshanShome She had every opportunity to tell her bf the truth, but she didn’t. Even if you are gullible enough to believe it was only because she was threatened by mark, that’s only more reason to go to her bf for support, but she didn’t. She believed and supported mark more than her own bf, cheating is cheating. Then after she realizes that mark isn’t shit and the only people left on her side are shit, she leaves panties at her ex-bf’s place looking all pitiable. She is a disloyal manipulator, whatever the truth about the other circumstances are.

I call bullshit on emily....her concern for mark's well being after the fight tells me she did love him. More happened than what is being said.

@tomlaundry4021

6 ай бұрын

She liked the attention and drama, might not have even liked loser guy

@yenisketches6047

6 ай бұрын

@@tomlaundry4021they banged

@253Monty

6 ай бұрын

just call bullshit on the whole story, it's not real. If it is then how do you let this kind of crazy scumbag be your best friend?

@MrDoverfield

6 ай бұрын

OP is so much loser he would fall for it

@JAH.13

6 ай бұрын

​@@MrDoverfield Op genuinely loved her that's why because we aren't in the situation we instantly call him a door mat, but people are all different and yeah he's a real doormat LIKE DUDE LEAVE HER At this point move away if you aren't that strong. Like damn I understand people have feelings, but someone needs to knock sense into him. I'm not going down the route of man can't have emotion, but damn she did so much to him, he must really REALLY Love her.

so, during the incident, she was protective of marc and ignored OP, she didn't enquired about his wellbeing. and after the incident, she didn't talk to OP for 5 days yet she found time to text marc to ask how he's doing ? yep, even if they never had sex, those 2 facts are enough betrayal for me to end a relationship over.

@shadowmaster335

6 ай бұрын

two types of cheating, the physical kind i.e kissing, sex, etc, and emotional cheating, guess what emily did XD

@Flaggerz

6 ай бұрын

​@@shadowmaster335 B O T H That lady isn't worth it

@JAH.13

6 ай бұрын

Then claims she felt a "sister bond" to him. Girl if that's what you consider a sister bond you must be living in Alabama. What's worse is she was leading mark on because she wanted someone to feel like they need her, so she was actively ignoring OP because he was successful and not dependent on her. She clearly get some sick and twisted pleasure from this.

@Drud

6 ай бұрын

@@JAH.13 You call it “sick and twisted pleasure”, I call it signs and symptoms of an underlying psychological condition. Might be from her genes with disorders running in her family. Might be a bad childhood. Could be a lack of feeling needed earlier in her life. Really, it could be anything, but we shouldn’t be so quick to judge people and deem them as bad. No one is 100% bad. There is good in all humans. (That’s not saying that there aren’t people who will never change for the better, though, for whatever sinful and twisted reason they have to keep sinning).

@JAH.13

6 ай бұрын

@@Drud OK so cool we'll be giving mark a pass? Dude what she did was bad of course I'm gonna be quick to call out how bad she is being. This all could have been easily avoided if she told the bf and she legit didn't do anything when the fight broke out,( not as in fight) but she legit defended the man that was threatening her for over a year and also lead him on and betrayed Op's trust in her. She's lucky Op is so easy to sway.

She's either super manipulative or she's broken. It'll NEVER be the same. His trust is gone and she's broken. Actually given another chance they'll figure it out and realise it's over. That way no "what could've been."

@yenisketches6047

6 ай бұрын

They banged. Shes a liar. Im a woman.

@Maninawig

6 ай бұрын

I mentionned this in another comment, but it doesn't sound like she is that irreparably broken, but it does sound like she has a something of a disorder that presents as a neurological addiction. In short, she has a need to be needed (often seen in women when their youngest starts school). As such, a psychologist can help her 1. Find and fix the root insecurity, 2. Help her identify the early signs of recurrence, and 3. Find healthier alternatives, like shifting the dependency to a pet. In the long run, treating this like finding out your partner has a developmental disorder, even OP and Emily can come though this strong, as long as they work together.

@MaryAX

6 ай бұрын

​@@Maninawigit feels like her social skills are lacking, so I agree with the neurological aspect but it seems like some sort of audhd. In this specific story it reallyyy seems like she felt responsible, blackmailed, and then eventually got some sort of Stockholm syndrome. Bizarre.

@bruhmania7359

6 ай бұрын

@@Maninawig as another commenter said. "So let me get this straight. Op on the ground getting kicked (nothing) getting head stomped (nothing) getting beat with a stick (still nothing)yet after the other guy gets jumped she's freaking out and drives him to the hospital? She chose her man and It wasn't op."

@MynameisBrianZX

6 ай бұрын

She started off lying about what she got up to with his fake friend, she is 100% lying about how far she went. If she was actually loyal to her bf, she would’ve told him the truth and gone to him for support, but who she went to instead speaks for itself. She tried to manipulate everyone else into pitying her, but fact is she didn’t treat her bf like a bf.

Last update: Dude, wake up. She’s playing you like a goddamn fiddle.

@ziggo_pro

2 ай бұрын

6:09

@gwencatz2483

Ай бұрын

the fact that she started talking about being "done with men bc they abuse her trust, manipulate her emotions and put her in loose-loose situations" to the guy who's trust she literally betrayed. GIRL, BYEEEEEE.

@bryn1063

Ай бұрын

​@gwencatz2483 IKR. GIRL GET UP. You did this, you went to mark who was abusive to you than the person who loved you.. I don't care how afraid you were. You made a choice here. You chose a bad person over a pretty good boyfriend. She's so unlikable. No responsibility at all. Ops a better person than I, I'd definitely date her best friend. Im way too petty. 🤣

She’s an world class manipulator. Her actions even at the very end screams manipulative intent

@onunca2324

6 ай бұрын

Im done with men and their manipulation is something i have heard from a manipulator

@darkriku12

6 ай бұрын

Either that or she's such a severe doormat and people pleaser that she'll always be told what to do by abusive men and will mever be able to assert boundaries to protect her relationships. It's lose lose.

@friendlyneighborhoodshinigami

4 ай бұрын

Exactly she's a manipulative control freak who can only find pleasure when someone is at their low points

So she lied about the reasons why it happened to trick him into staying in the relationship. Luckily he didn't take the bait. So she intentionally tried to look as pathetic as possible to try and get him back.

@tsm688

6 ай бұрын

which lie are you talking about to be clear

@nicknitro86

6 ай бұрын

The reasons why she kept in contact with him.

She lied too much to satisfy her desires. Not worth dealing with

@tsm688

6 ай бұрын

which lies exactly. she played it mostly straight. most she omitted was how scary the evil friend was, and how afraid she was of him.

"I hate seeing her like that" Well QUIT seeing her that's what NC is...

@dokuganryu1565

3 ай бұрын

He made a dumb mistake by unblocking her.

@binaylol5177

2 ай бұрын

What does NC mean

@binaylol5177

2 ай бұрын

What does NC mean

@alisalman5917

Ай бұрын

@@binaylol5177it’s an abbreviation for “no contact”

If I was OP, once I realize she spent more energy being more concerned about Mark while he's attacking me than about me actually being attacked, my Spidey sense gets activated. Once I found out she checked in with Mark _before_ she checked in with me, done. Period. She could use my porch for shelter while she's waiting for another cab in her wet clothes, but she definitely isn't coming inside.

She didn't have sex w/ him *yet.* it was clear she would have if they had more time. She's not innocent, she's not a victim. Also notice this: despite her problem being a lack of solid boundaries, she falls into the exact same pit-trap and allows herself to be shoved into a girl's night. She hasn't fixed herself or changed in any way. Only turned jaded.

@f687sNFM

6 ай бұрын

Nah she did bang mark

The worst type of betrayal: When a best friend and your girlfriend betray you simultaneously.

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

This is worst then that! OP almost killed twice and that bitch checks on the other guy

@Tzomthekliafafanboy

5 ай бұрын

I luckily never had that happen to me, but the main reason for that is that i never had a girlfriend lol

Normally I'm not the type to accuse people of "emotional cheating" mostly because it tends to get twisted into partners thinking about people other than their SO and confiding in friends about their relationship to just vent or get advice as such. But this is the clearest case of emotional cheating I've ever seen. Emily might not have had sex with Mark, but she did keep talking to him and believing him in his threats. That gave Mark hope and allowed him to be bold. She didn't like OP getting better in his career and used Mark to get the emotional validation she wanted. The fact she was more worried about Mark and ignored OP says it all, regardless if Mark was beaten more badly. She should have told OP sooner, and OP is in the right for breaking up with her. Emily needs therapy and OP does too.

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

Nope she definitely had sex with mark.

@LadyZubat

6 ай бұрын

Emotional cheating is not a thing it's just pure cheating.

@delirious8819

5 ай бұрын

​@LadyZubat I kinda always wondered if 'emotional' cheating was a term coined to just make it feel like a lesser act of cheating or something lmao

@morganablackwater2017

5 ай бұрын

​@@delirious8819 I mean emotional cheating is worst really... You can get drunk and land in bed with someone by accident (not that Id excuse that) ...but to have feelings to another - thats not a random thing, you need to nourish it

She chose to keep leading psycho 'friend' on, she chose not to immediately tell OP of 'friend's' confession and subsequent actions, she chose to help and defend 'friend' during and after the incident, she chose to get in contact with 'friend' before contact with OP, she CHOSE all of what has happened and now suffers the consequences of her choices. OP should NOT get back together cause it sounds like OP can never trust her again

@lightcpkhfm2305

4 ай бұрын

say it right, it was her mother who contacted OP, not her

Here's the thing about a broken vase; you can glue it back together, paint over it, re-glaze it, do whatever you want, but at the end of the day, the cracks will still be there. It is still a broken vase no matter how much you attempt to repair it, it will never be as strong as it once was.

@kianmeijnen4272

6 ай бұрын

Even a broken vase can be beautiful though

@DummyThiccccc

6 ай бұрын

I hate that metaphor because it doesn't show the true nature of the world. If I was a broken vase and was fixed up yeah I'd be a broken vase underneath but those around me might know that I would appear the same as before. The things inside of you and me don't matter as much as you want. What actions you take and your appearance on the outside are what actually matter. It is seemingly obvious because our outside appearance and actions can effect the world and everyone in it but that inside that may be broken as long as the outside is fixed up only can really affect us. Yeah the inside matters but it really only matters to you which is why internal problems with yourself isn't excusable to problems in the world in most scenarios. But this is why you should always be a little selfish so you can avoid being the broken vase and have the inside match the outside.

@morganablackwater2017

5 ай бұрын

Bad analogy - trust can't be repaired... Vase can - even more! broken Vase can be repaired into more valuable one...

@randomperson8405

5 ай бұрын

Since people don't seem to be getting my point, I am not saying that a broken vase cannot be more valuable than an unbroken vase. I am saying that it cannot become what it once was. It cannot be as strong, however that has no bearing on value.

@Vestakia

5 ай бұрын

I disagree. I am much stronger now than I was before I was broken. It really depends on what the vase is put back together with.

My guy, she CHEATED on YOU! Shes taking things to the grave, and you felt it ! This woman wouldve seen you get killed... TWICE and not said anything, defending the other guy ? Yet you still want her ? If you go back, you Deserve 100% what you get

Respect to OP for recognizing the cheating right away

Nothing really to say other than the "best friend" being a pyschopath.

@ResidentWeevil2077

6 ай бұрын

Yep; I have no sympathy for anyone who becomes obsessed and possessive, especially when the target of their "affections" is in a relationship with someone else.

@mrgas8499

6 ай бұрын

His other friends are dogshit too,mark tried kerb stomping him twice and swung a plank at him,only help cause some woman was close to being hit.

@jackchop1576

6 ай бұрын

She was banging him though.

@gostavoadolfos2023

6 ай бұрын

Not really envy is a major human emotion at the same level as love hatred and revenge. In my culture it is seen as the most dangerous and even people believe that it sends negative brain waves which harm the envied person.

@MaryAX

6 ай бұрын

​@@gostavoadolfos2023 based culture, which one?

That ain’t your friend and that AINT your girl, both of them can kick rocks and Mark should be in prison.

The deal breaker was her concern for Mark while the fight was happening.. she lost him then..

No updates in 9 months. That actually annoys me to no end.

@tsm688

6 ай бұрын

From time to time, on rare occasions, it is legitimately possible for people to move on

If Emily is telling the truth, this is the WORST savior complex I've ever read. After updates: Called it

OP should just end things off with Emily and never bother with her again because she'll only drag him down. As much as it would be nice to see her and Mark suffer for the things they've caused it wouldn't be worth it. He just needs cut her out of his life and move on from her because he's just living a fantasy that he needs to wake up from. Emily is one of those girls that jusr wants the validation that she was able to fix people and feel good about herself for doing it. Though in doing so she has become manipulative, doesn't care about the life of her boyfriend because she essentially allowed for things to go this far to the point that her life would have be just as bad for letting things get this far. OP is an adult and should take into consideration that this woman will be the death of him if he keeps her in his life. He also needs to explain to her parents that the reason the relation failed was because of the fact that their daughter allowed things to go this far instead of seeking help and trying to mend the relationship prior to the attack. All in all it's not worth being in a relationship that's bound to lead to the death of someone as it's just best to get out of it and go get therapy because OP definitely needs to speak to a professional and get help before things take a turn for the worst.

Forgiving cheating relationships rarely works either they will relapse sometime in the future or will get revenge on you for getting caught, these kind of people rarely feels sorry for what they did but because the humilliation that they got caught, and even if that doesnt happen its never gonna be the same trust has been broken, constantly policing or thinking someone you dont trust anymore is going to cheat on you again is taxing for your mental health. Just let go and move on...

Sad end but don’t forget she chose to take the best friend to the hospital and never once asked how OP was doing. She can be depressed all she want but in the end she chose her man.

@morganablackwater2017

5 ай бұрын

She wasn't the one who took him to hospital she STAYED with OP just didn't said anything

If she checked whether Mark was ok, why not OP, he's your boyfriend for gods sake

“He picked up a wooden plank, lunges as me and swings at my head” Me personally: 🔫

@TheKnightofAwesomeness

3 ай бұрын

Oh Most Definitely

Emily's best friend getting flirty and sending sexual memes. What's dedication aye

Attempted murder is a crime in any country. Also his friends have nothing to fear because they saved his life. I call bs.

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

Nope, what he said would happened where I live.

@Feroste

6 ай бұрын

@@yektaklc4327 You don't have self defense?

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

@@Feroste We have but its tricky, there is a good chance both parties end up in jail and friends get a longer sentence.

@nathydj5308

Ай бұрын

Justice doesn’t exist in all countries 😂

@dripkid.rocket

15 күн бұрын

Fun fact: In my country OP could get jail for his part. I don’t know how the laws work in OP’s country or if Mark was arrested, but here failure to report can give you 1-2 years in prison, that includes to file a case against the perpetrator (as for some reason cases has to go through court every time). Normally when you file a police report you get the court papers too, and if those aren’t filed: well high chance of the perpetrator is let go, and you getting arrested. It’s so fucking weird but it’s needed so both sides have a chance to win, equal rights🙄. There was a terrorist who got three years for breaking and entering, though an hour before he had killed like 7 people and since there wasn’t enough proof for him being the perpetrator: he wasn’t sentenced for that. The law is so fucking weird too, that if a someone is proven not guilty once, it cannot be brought up again. So the victims family got no closure, and the fucker was bragging about that shit. Our justice system is really fucked up (if that wasn’t apparent).

She felt like his sister and took abuse and inappropriate acts from him? Then at the same time didn't give an ounce of a damn about her actual boyfriend. Honey, have the day you deserve.

She didn't contact him for 5 days, but did asked Mark how he is??

Last Story- let her go, that's how you're the bigger Man.

I wouldn’t be so hasty with the manipulative liar accusations this time around. There do exist people out there who make it their life’s mission to always want to take care of others, a people-pleaser, if you will. Emily sounds exactly like that. The problem with being a people-pleaser is that these people often have zero boundaries and so will often make poor decisions that hurt existing relationships because they just go to where they think they’re needed most at the moment and not necessarily think about how others will see their actions. I wager that Emily saw Mark getting beat up worse than OP and that’s her real reason for going to Mark first. She wanted to keep the peace between all parties at all costs, not realizing that keeping the peace with toxic people is destructive. Mark threatening her with ruining her relationship with OP explains a lot of her actions, or lack thereof. This doesn’t excuse her behavior, but as far as cheating stories go, I’m willing to believe Emily to be guilty of emotionally cheating at most, and tenuously so at best. Obviously, the real problem is Mark. Dude’s actions were the catalyst for every broken relationship in this story because he took advantage of everyone’s trust and good faith with his jealousy. I’m convinced that Emily’s rant at 21:20 was not targeted at OP at all, but rather her finally realizing how much her kindness, however misplaced, had been taken advantage of by Mark, and genuinely cursing her own cowardice. I personally believe this relationship can be salvaged, but Emily needs a ton of therapy to address what are clearly deep seated issues with setting boundaries before OP can even consider giving her another chance. She’s got a lot of growing up to do.

@LordDaret

6 ай бұрын

If I were to advise, I would say that he can go back into a relationship with her, BUT he must make it clear that she MUST trust him entirely, that offering his trust to her again is a one time offer and opportunity. If Mark or some other guy tries to hit on her again and she for some reason thinks it’s a good idea to keep quiet, then their relationship is through. The big factor I am most concerned about is her desire to be leaned upon by people. She must learn to constrain herself and not just let people drag her around like Mark was.

@MaryAX

6 ай бұрын

She's definitely guilty of not setting emotional boundaries. 100%

@JesseJordanTheSuper

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. She definitely needs therapy and they both do genuinely seem to care for each other. I honestly hope that the ex best friend gets help to or has some damn sense knocked into him. This is sad all around that one person ruined so many friendships and relationships many of which could have been life long.

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

Everybody has a reason for any kind of behaviour, this doesn't make everyone innocent. No mather the reason, she choosed mark over her bf. Getting worried about him is something but not even asking his almost killed bf how is he is unspeakable. She is a master manipulator that underwear thing or walking under the rain is no coincidance.

@sujikahn4389

5 ай бұрын

I agree with this assessment. The problem with people pleasers is that they don't realize how their dedication to everyone else but themselves can hurt the person closest to them. People pleasers justify this kind of messed-up prioritizing as "well my s/o is an extension of myself anyway." It's either that or Emily and Mark has BEEN sleeping with each other.

Lmao she is playing him chess in 4d and winning

This grief process got OP lost, gotta stay away from each other frfr so you can process

Dual mating strategy. She had her long term partner, but was interested in Mark for some reason and decided to maintain that relationship, while simultaneously making it clear (to herself) that this would not impact the long term relationship. Note: while this term is commonly used to stereotype women and their behaviour, I see it as more describing their impulses, men have similar impulses too. We judge people’s character by how they manage their impulses and control their own behaviour, and we can see that Emily did not do that at all.

Nah, she messed up too bad. OP should trust his gut. The way she defended and worried about the friend and not her BF was too telling, they probably have been f*cking. She wanted to have an adventure with the friend and keep the boyfriend as backup. The 'friend' was demanding she break up with OP but she refused. She wanted the cake and eat it too. Just stop t*rturing yourself and end it.

It sounds like Emily was more worried about Mark plotting revenge than him getting hurt. She probably has issues with self-respect and boundaries 😕. Not excusing what she did but that would explain the weird energy of her being closer to Mark than to OP because she's not scared of OP and she's scared of Mark. And relationships with people who only respect fear are never good to keep.

Emily is most certainly trickle-truthing, not a bloody chance she's telling the whole story playing dumb like that.

Am i the only one disturbed by the fact that Mark not only committed assault and battery, he also attempted second degree murder TWICE against Op?

This is I why HATE fake people, trying to be FAKE nice to everyone, like the world is SO beautiful and harmony, all of OPs friends are fake. I've seen people like these before. A group of friends always pretending they're loving each other. Once they betrayed one of the friend. That friend expose everyone in that group for backstabbing each other. I laughed when I heard about this. I mean come on, you befriend fake people and you're fake nice to others, you attract the same people. That's why I prefer people who's genuinely real. They say what they feel. Plus you only live once be real, this is your only chance in life to live, there's nothing to lose. What I noticed was fake people hated me for being real, but would RESPECT my opinion and asked my ADVICE over their friends cos they KNOW I'd tell them the truth. And those fake group friends even tried to befriend with me after their group was expose. I could smell the fakeness and said no thanks I'm good with my introverted friends who's honest with how real world is.

@tsm688

6 ай бұрын

There's a few ancient, don't-give-a-fuck people who are genuine gems, but the vast majority of "tell what I really mean" people are ... genuinely filterless. No impulse control. Can't be trusted with a sandwich in the dark. There's a time to filter and there's a time to not.

Geez. That is the saddest relationship breakdown story I've heard in a long while. While I believe OP is sincerely remorseful for her actions, It's hard to believe she couldn't have one of her friends to help her get out of that situation with OP's best friend. Why didn't she record the harassment and play it for OP to eliminate the doubt of not being believed? Hindsight is always 20/20. In time, they both will heal and hopefully learn from their mistakes and heartbreak and move forward.

Okay.. it's passable that Emily checked if Mark was okay, due to feeling like his big sister. But the fact that she checked on a psychotic creep, trying to have sex with her AND tried TWICE to kill her boyfriend, and didn't check in the actual victim.. that's messed up. OP was way worse off than Mark physically, as well as dealing with the shock of discovering that his girlfriend of 5 years (who he was probably going to marry soon) cheated on him with the same man who purely because of jealousy, tried to kill his best friend of 10 years. Like, she didn't even send him ONE message about anything! And in the end, the only reason she talked to him, was because of her parents. It's so messed up. Thanks for reading my novel

Leave your friends behind as well. Jane, Tom and Katie are snakes🤮🤮 Get out of those friendships.

Something like this story happened to a former colleague of mine. Her brother and his girlfriend/BM (can’t remember if she was his wife or not) were in bed sleeping and suddenly a man enters their bedroom window with a sledge hammer and began beating him. While he was defending himself, she did nothing. The guy survived but was pretty beat up. Instead of checking her man that got beat up, she went into the living room and asked why he attacked her man. It turned out to be an ex boyfriend of hers. Not only did she abandoned her man to be brutally assaulted, but she also left an infant by itself.

@LovelyCinccino

3 ай бұрын

What happened afterwards? Are the colleague and baby alright?

@kgunitkeese17

3 ай бұрын

@@LovelyCinccino Let me clarify one thing: it happened to the brother of my colleague. Second, yes they’re fine. This happened over five years ago and I don’t work there anymore, so some of what I remember will be a little foggy. The last I remember is the victim had to get his armed screwed in because it was broken from using it to shield his head. Lacerations on his legs. I told my colleague that her brother should break up have custody of the child because the mother had proven by her actions that she’s an unfit mother. I don’t know what happened in the aftermath.

She didn't react when you were getting hurt but when he did she went nuts. That should tell you more than enough. It's no longer your issue.

Good story, too bad OP had to ruin by saying “fellow redditors” at the end

@MaryAX

6 ай бұрын

Lmfao 😭

So I actually know a couple where something like this happened. And while for a long time it was chaotic, they did end up patching things up and now have a daughter together. Nothing is ever as simple as it may seem, and while Emily fucked up, it was clear she knew it and was not trying to press anything to fix it. This may be one of the rare times where something can be salvaged.

She was boneless and innocent, could give a straigh answer and suffered because of it.

Nah, the other friends should’ve stopped Mark as soon as he started beating up OP. They only helped OP & started beating up Mark when OP was so badly hurt. Like, wtf.

@brianaschmidt910

6 ай бұрын

No. They got up when mark made it clear he was actively trying to hurt op. But I'll give them a pass on that. Shock is a powerful sedative after all. But the gf and the other chick's? They knew. They fucking knew about the kisses at the very least. Even if Kate had reason to suspect that op was in the know, why not mention the weirdness of remaining close to the guy your gf "dealt with (She assumed meant tell op)" she also said nothing

@yektaklc4327

6 ай бұрын

Everbody was drunk they have slower reaction times. All that shit propably happened in 10 seconds at most

“I’m done with men” as if she didn’t betray a man. Can’t imagine how horrible op must’ve felt when she ran to console the deadbeat “friend” instead of the actual victim, her own boyfriend. She claims he trapped her yet she prioritises him over her SO

This is wild emily should never be trusted and it was shown at the very end there she was very manipulative insane how op thinks contacting again is a good idea its just makes him vulnerable to manipulation

The most annoying shit about these stories is people being like "I asked how she could talk to them again", instead of digging in how unacceptable it is for them to ignore him for days while he is in pain and instead run to the loser friend he once had to ask if he was OK. And if she really cared at all, the dick head who attacked him would have been the LAST person on his mind.

First thing Id do is to get Mark in prison for as long as possible. Then cut off Emily and get an restraining order. Then get a therapist and try to move on.

Shit reads like a book. Makes me question if it’s real

A year of secrets.. yeah, not salvageable. These remind me why I avoid relationships. Married 22 years, it went south, I've done my time. XD

OP will take her back, he is so into her and lets himself be manipulated.

Emily is getting ready to take her own life I’m like 70% sure

Mark's unhinged behavior being triggered proves he is unhinged. Emily Isn't any better, she isn't violent.

I've had my trust betrayed by so many past partners, which have reduced my self esteem to drop by so much. And this has become the reason why I haven't really tried to get back into the dating scene in a long time.

I'm going to make this real simple her actions in caring for Mark checking on Mark's well-being, and ignoring her own partner, after Mark try to be into a pulp speaks volumes. Her actions show she made her choice, even if it was blackmail or pressure from him. He's right to go no contact, and I'm saying this as a female because her actions show she doesn't know who she really cares and loves in her heart period at the end of the day, if somebody is hesitant on who they want to choose you should always tell that person to take the other person, because there should be no thought especially if you're already in a established relationship. And I do believe it's possible she's not being honest and did have sex and is holding back on that, to leave a door open to possibly getting back together . Because no guy acts like that just out of love only, or female

Man, Emily should just take the L for supporting the wrong man and moved on already!

I’m torn. On one hand, Emily’s testimony that nothing progressed past Mark’s kissing her, the testimony of Sarah corroborating that narrative, Mark’s own words that they did not sleep together, and Emily going pretty far to try and make things better. On the surface, things seem to point to Emily really didn’t do anything past Mark getting handsy and blackmailing her. My heart wants them to get back together since Emily and OP clearly still love each other. BUT On the other hand, Emily jumping to defend Mark during the assault and reaching out to him and not OP after is incredibly suspicious behaviour. So I’m torn. My heart says they need to at least try to work things out and start over, but my brain says Emily was likely just really good at hiding evidence, even if her still loving OP is genuine.

Emily might actually be telling the truth. I know its slim who's to say that things can't work out. Sure they'll never be the same but the fact that she showed up to Op's house in the pouring rain, denied attention from other guys, and went home without any protest shows a lot that she actually regrets her actions. And of op still feels strongly about her maybe they can work something out. They just need to make sure mark stays out of it

This man needs someone who actual partner who loves him and is honest with him

I did have a guy friend whom I treated as a brother. Literal brother, it included the annoying petty fight parts. Only later I found out he had a crush on me and being the idiot dense I was, even his friends could only pat his back. Even when we were left in a room alone, I unwittingly managed to turn his advances into sibling rivalry. In my defense, I was a late bloomer and was 10 years younger in mind than body. 2 decades later, we are living our own lives now

This is one of the few times I actually believe she's telling the truth, but that the truth is, in this context, actually worse than the alternative.

She does sound like she’s sorry, but that doesn’t make her mistakes suddenly disappear. She saw marks behavior for way too long, and she didn’t shut it down.

I’m annoyed with OP. How many “one last, honest, heart to heart, put everything out on the table” talks does he need? She’s not going to tell him the truth. She may not have loved Mark but she definitely liked the secrecy/bad boy/obsessive behavior/affair they had going on. Sarah already told him she enjoyed him being needy and obsessive. I also think she did more than just kiss him. He threatened to tell OP they were secretly chatting and kissed once. That’s not much to freak out over nor is it much to continue on in secret. He was also willing to kill his best friend over a girl he never slept with??? Who never made some sort of promise they could be together if he wasn’t around?? Right in front of her while she did nothing to help OP and never checked on OPs injuries. She’s lying and is only mad Mark talks too much.

Sometimes, there is no right answer, and she was a fool with her Mother Teresa complex. And Op is a fool for not letting her go

Her prioitizing the psycho best friend shows how she didnt really love OP to begin with, but rather what he provided before. She can't even say she didnt know this was a issue when her best friend was very capable of understanding what the main problem one despite the little she knows the truth. She isn't worth forgiving or taking back because she showed what her true priorities were when you break the status quo down to it's very raw form.

Never show sympathy to those who have wronged you, just makes you look like a doormat

Emily be yapping about shit in that car ride

Its highly unlikely him stomping on your head with multiple witnesses doesn't end up with him in jail? Sounds like bullshit

I might be going against the grain here, but the more I digest the situation, the more it sounds like Emily is suffering some kind of neurological disorder or something... the story is so closely akin to when a loved one changes because of a tumor or disability... In Emily's case, seeing it manifest in an obsessive need to be needed. (Hence why she is obsessing over Mark now, and he is the one needing her.) If I am right, the solution would be quite similar... Emily should see a psychologist/psychiatrist, to sort out the triggers, the underlying causes, and ways to shift the focus (such as a support animal). Next would be to have a sit down with the parents and OP (if he chooses to stay) about the issues and ways to cope, and then private sessions with OP to help him overcome the harm that came about. When all is said and done, OP (or someone as kind) and Emily could then love a long and wonderful life together with the added quirk of maybe the former causing small metaphorical fires for the latter to put out every now and then...

@MaryAX

6 ай бұрын

I think you nailed it, this girl has some kind of neurodivergence and can't read social cues or properly assess this sort of situation. She then felt threatened and trapped. It made sense that since she was a bubbly girl to begin with, she became complacent and fawning. Whereas if she was a strong-willed or loud girl, she would have picked a fight with Mark. Fight, flight, fawn or freeze are real. I think Mark needs to be checked as well, he shows signs of narcissism and psychopathy.

@Maninawig

6 ай бұрын

@@MaryAX yes, Mark should ne checked. Though I do read more that she sees her project (currently Mark) as a seperate entity from the world. As such, she'd be blind that her project was beating up OP, and Mark's threat was threatening the existance of a project itself... I hate to say it, but that last part is similar to what happens when you expose the false people from a schizophrenic's mind... only, like you said, she's a nice person so panics over becomes aggressive.

Block her, if your that concerned about her talk to her parents about her mental health. If you keep being wishy-washy your ex is going to think there's a chance to reconnect. Nip it in the bud and move on 😢

Op needs to leave Emily alone. She played with fire and got burned. Now she is manipulating the hell out of Op to get her way. He's crazy if he takes this trainwreck back.

A possessive harassing creep constantly pushes boundaries but she was "leading him on". Fuck that. Emily needs therapy. Mark needs to be on a watchlist, ideally locked up because he will find another woman to harass and abuse, and he will snap at another guy who stands up to him. Only his next victims may not be that lucky. Still, OP needs to close this chapter behind him. Block her and move on.

I won't lie. I would have broke during that last part. Then I'd always be looking over my shoulder. I had a guy try the same kind of thing with my wife. She felt so guilty thinking she was why our friendship ended and never realized it was always him.

Im crying why is this so GOF DAMN EMOTIONAL JESUS AHHHH

With this kind of bestfriend who needs enemies😂😂😂😂

@BUT_WHYME

Ай бұрын

I think she played them both

I’m sure he folded like a lawn chair

This is weirdly a situationg where, they could have worked this out. He literallys SAd her, and blackmailed her. Im starting to think she has issues with liking sad men. This could be a relationship that works if she gets therapy. There was no cheating, she never initiated.

story 1: sara knows how to cheer men since she sends memes and flirted you don't have to fall in love to flirt so long as there is limit to the flirting like flirting with guys guys flirt with guys lightly.

What the hell is wrong with Mark??? He's a psychopath!

She knows that Mark is a trash person and yet she chose to let OP and Mark stay friends? Is she dumb or is she lying.. That's the part where I would've lost all respect on her.

Emily wanted a brother sister relationship, what she didn’t know is that Mark was from Alabama

This ex gf cheated with the friend and it was more than kissing! She cared way too much for the friend then her own bf and the only reason she wants to be with the bf is because he is more financially stable but she is sexually attracted to the friend she want both men one as her bf and the other as her secret bf!

I'm sorry. Emily was harassed, intimidated, and verbally and PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED by Mark, didn't know how to handle it, showed up to his house tipsy and depressed, and SHE'S THE PROBLEM?!?

@giuseppegiovani2748

3 ай бұрын

Her boyfriend was almost killed and she did not give a fuck

Yes, cheating is cheating they kissed and didn’t check on you… but id give her a strict 2nd chance

OP should talk to Mark. He never really had the Full Story from his perspective. Yes he coule Lie since he wanted to be with OPs GF but to get some closure the should talk When he heard both sides, decide on either giving his a Second Chance or cutting both of them out

@tsm688

6 ай бұрын

talk to the lying manipulator who'd been secretly abusing his girlfriend and tried to kill him?

Am I the only one who thinks it's gross how the EX values people being dependant kn her too much?

With friends like these...

The emotions people have are honestly so complicated. This story makes me angry, not in the "Emily is a cheater kinda way" but a "why is Emily so stupid" kinda way. I honestly am constantly finding new emotions for each and every one of these stories. One made me feel pity for the problematic party, particularly because their personalities/actions are so stupid and/or fragile that it makes you pity them despite their horid personalities.

She’s playing you !! You need to suggest to her parents that she see a therapist so she can cut through the bs and not manipulate you to what is truly going on !!

OP is a fool.

bro she does not love the op. mark quite literally tried to make op "bite the curb" and she fawned and was worried about the mark instead of her bf??????

Well i think this is alot depends on the situation like, there might be people with OP whn he is on ground, and she was pulling mark off. And if she stopped mark for so long and was no s3x, and it should be alright, coz she cant trust op reaction whn mark is threatening her getting break up.. if she cant trust OP enough to tell him abt it thn its his fault to bring mark to their life and exposing her mark behaviour.

He's so sympathetic I almost cried