Absolutely! It will become so and we'll have a choice to go or not. I think I would check it out. At 72 I've seen several live performances back in the 60s and 70s. It would be interesting to watch a zombie performance.

philosophical zombies is a good band name.

@jwinchester1320

19 күн бұрын

If I was in a Mod /new wave band I’d steal this immediately 😂

watching a live drummer or guitarist is incredible many dont play live today so kids have never seen it

making money playing live today is a dead issue too.

Ticket prices will be through the roof!

It's been apparent for some time now that this is going to happen. Elvis will return in both iterations -- young Elvis and mature Las Vegas Elvis. You want the Beatles back? Early, just out of Liverpool Beatles and 1970 Beatles -- either way, they'll be back. And this will be true in other arts as well. Mariiyn Monroe will star in all new movies. The iconic actor James Dean died at 24. What would he have been at age 40? They'll be able to create him -- not REcreate him, because there never was a 40-year-old James Dean. But there will be, and he'll star in movies. Will the public be accepting of all this. You bet. They won't just accept it, they'll love it -- and pay for it. Needless to say, the social and legal ramifications of this stuff will be huge.

"ITS IN YO HEAD, ITS IN YO HEAD, ZOMBIE ZOMBIE ZOMBE-EH-EH-EH-OH"

a lot of "humans" are below "philosophical" zombies.

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

er..no comment ;)

I think your analogy is spot on. Large concerts with big screens and tiny performers way in the distance on stage are already this way. I still would wait and buy the DVD, but many people would pay to go to this type of show.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers warned us many decades ago.

I’m sure when Édouard-Léon Scott de Martinville made his first recording with the phonautograph in 1860, there were probably people who scoffed at the idea of listening to a recording of a musician instead of seeing that musician perform live.

@ministryofguitar

19 күн бұрын

That’s a great insight/ thank you for sharing

Look at what’s happening in Vegas. The SPHERE!

It will be a highly curated experience and not a very interactive one, that's for sure. Maybe some stock lines about weather, location and shit. Last thing investors would want an AI rockstar to do is to actually be a rockstar and say or do something crazy onstage (or... just glitch). That said, it would be amusing to see AI holograms start making unwelcomed political statements or do drunk ramblings, despite all efforts to prevent that from happening

Wow your channel is so great!

@ministryofguitar

16 күн бұрын

Thank you

unless all videos of these performers are scrubbed from the internet I'll watch the originals thank you very much, fake is fake

The first video title description “zombie” totally turned me off but then when it was changed to “hendrix live in concert”, I clicked without hesitation😏

I would absolutely go see a couple holograph concerts. Imagine if they recreated Jimi's woodstock set, and held a show to commemorate it. Bands like Pantera, Nirvana, plus artists like Randy Rhodes and many others have such huge fanbases, even though the died decades ago, they're still inspiring new and young artist to join the craft.

The Steven Spielberg movie A.I. deals with so much of what you're talking about. That movie is our future without a doubt!

A musician friend of mine tells me of concerts he attended in his youth in the US with line ups like The Who, The Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin etc.. all on one ticket..can you imagine? And imagine recreating these performances with AI/CGI/Holographic technology and immersive audio sound systems. Like that scene in Blade Runner with the holographic Las Vegas Elvis (but without the glitches). And then we could replace ourselves with avatars and Zombies and enter a transhuman dystopia; machines watching machines post NATO's WW3...aaaargh!!!

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

That's probably what Elon Musk is betting on

@jasondorsey7110

21 күн бұрын

​@@ministryofguitarElon's working on escaping to Mars when the globalists actualize 1984

I'm hoping this gets so ridiculous that a majority of people reject it and go back to listening to live, local music. However, the next time I watch The Breakfast Club, I want all characters played by Joe Pesci with lines delivered in his voice. I want to watch a midget version of Bob Dylan sing Maggie's Farm in a high Alvin and the chipmunks voice but with Bob's inflections. If that isn't possible then how about The Brady Bunch: Zombie Apocolypse where Alice has to be put down after being bit and Cindy is the only one with the balls to do it. On second thoughts mabye I'll just read a classic novel instead.

Brings a new wrinkle to the term "intellectual property."

I can usually tell the difference between a digital and analog recording on a revealing system. I think there will still be an uncanny valley for all these resurrected performers for years to come., It will not be seamless.

@ministryofguitar

19 күн бұрын

Yes how long that uncanny valley lasts is a key point. Graphics are getting very close to crossing that valley

When you think about it, pop music hasn't changed much in recent years so I predict even less change over the next decade due to continuing mainstream acceptance of recycled tunes and trends.

@ministryofguitar

19 күн бұрын

To quote Mr Hetfield , Sad but True

Life is an Illusion.

Where do young players learn to perform? Music will stagnate with back catalogue "recreations"'. Life goes on & Music used to express that. Sitting at home on a computer is not as exciting as interacting with a real audience. Film & TV used experienced live performers. Where will the young ones learn their craft? Thanks for sharing your ideas. Seems like performing will become quite sterile & the audience feel it too.

I'm not sure that the novelty of a literal 3d movie act of a concert is not going to wear thing really fast. It seems unlikley the act is going to interact with the crowd, and so nothing novel will ever happen. Arguably giant stadium concerts aren't really much better, so maybe I was never the audience. I've only been to two giant concerts, Iron Maiden and Rush. I actullly hated the Rush concert. Iron Maiden was better, but not something I ever felt like I was missing out on after that. Trying to think why people go to the stadium shows I can only imagine people like the idea that they went and saw a band live, not the actual show. A fake show might not have that same draw, would it? Or maybe it would be like going with your friends to a movie, but not worth paying the absurd ticket prices I've heard about for live shows. My favorite show was seeing Holdsworth in a tiny jazz club. The uncanney valley of a zombie is going to be amplified in that setting. I know everyone keeps going on (especially the companies that sell them), about how great the LLMs are, but in my personal expierence, they aren't much better to use than good documentation with a smart search. I use it as technical reference (which will often just lie to you anyway) for software development, and it's just as frustrating as it is "good". Making LLMs better is going to get a lot harder, they have run out of data to train them on, they are getting a lot of push back for intellecual property theft, the vast expense of running them, and the danger of misinformation. It is an interesting realization that LLMs are literally this p-zombie idea brought to reality. Thank you for seeing this connection! PS: Sorry about the audio. It can't be easy being your own engineer, script writer, and host all the time.

@ministryofguitar

21 күн бұрын

Yes thank you for noticing. Being a one man show putting out 4 videos a week often makes me wonder why I am doing it. But in any case, I agree on the concert bit. At least for myself. Give me Allan Holdsworth in a bar all day. What I have realized though is that increasingly large concerts are becoming about the spectacle and theatrics, for the general attendee. This is where I think the idea of having artificial musicians perfectly may become normalised as long as the experience of it is spectacular enough

It would have to be a static performance, with no interaction. Real concerts today are for the most part static already, with backing tracks and video running in sync.

Has our creativity energy become so diminished that there are no new artists worthy of showcasing?? Is that why the music industry keeps rehashing old ideas? Bringing to life dead super stars? Where are today’s superstars? No one seems to like them snd they don’t seem as bigger than life as the old ones.

Thinks can feel so hopeless these days as an artist, but I refuse to give into that hopelessness. People need human connection and community to survive. I’ll keep making things in hopes to keep creating that. Fk fame, fk “playing for hundreds of thousands of people”. Do it because you have to and because it helps others. AI can never replicate the heart of Art in service of others

@JohnJohn-fz6nt

17 күн бұрын

I accidentally discovered MONDE UFO, a two piece duo from California, the other day. Not sure what to call their music but it's tiny AND big, beautiful AND weird. One may not care for their music but the simple stage setup (and the manual spinning of the globes, lol) and small audience reminded me of where so many STARTED. Just doing what you love, performing. The $$$ came along and ruined the simplicity. Nobody wants to be small. Somehow these smaller shows make more impact on memory for me. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGqCs6h8p7quYZc.html

@rogerd911

17 күн бұрын

I clicked on the link you provided to check them out. Their music does not appeal to me. Moreover, it seems pretentious and too focused on appearances and not substance. Finally I think it is a good example of why back catalogs of decades old music are so popular.

@Turtlpwr

17 күн бұрын

@@rogerd911but that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

@JohnJohn-fz6nt

17 күн бұрын

@@rogerd911 Thanks for checking it out and replying.

@rogerd911

17 күн бұрын

@@Turtlpwr No kidding. This whole comments section is mostly opinions. Isn't that just, like, the whole point, man?

Hologram performers have been a thing since Gorillaz. Hologram Beatles does sound interesting though. The selling point is that you get to feel as if you were put right into the heart of Beatlemania by seeing "The Beatles" perform "live". I could see that maybe working. Time Machine live concerts I guess

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

Yeah I think the key point now is the evolution of technology to become indistinguishable from reality in a concert context

@juanvaldez5422

22 күн бұрын

Why not support bands that are currently making music ? What is this thing where we re-hash the same things over n over .. in music , in films , everything ? To me it’s the hallmark of a dying culture .. western culture namely . I believe a culture or society can be judged by the art it creates. If that’s true , what does it say when we live in a ‘zombie’ culture ?

@kbgrevolver4563

22 күн бұрын

@@juanvaldez5422 Fair point. And I do support modern bands myself regardless of their notoriety or clout. Baroness is a favorite of mine.

Just watched the movie Amadeus. Can you imagine watching AI's creation of an origional performance from Mozart set in the 1700's? Not a movie but an accurate sensory experience? Tecnology just keeps moving forward until we one day create the holodeck from Star Trek.

@ministryofguitar

21 күн бұрын

Yeah that is an incredible thought

@loiswells3062

14 күн бұрын

The artists discussed for possible zombiehood appearances are all well-documented on film & recordings, whereas there are no recordings or video--or even photographs--of Mozart. So how could that be created? Plus, you can already go to your local symphony theater & hear a Mozart concert, so what would be gained? I think this AI recreation will be limited to Rock's Heyday stars, for which there is already a precedent of attending rock shows en mass.

I don't THINK? People will like watching holograms. I know I wouldn't pay for that. Id feel like I was paying to watch youtube in a stadium. You know a HUGE part of why I listen to music is to relate to a human that expresses it. It's a connection to a human thing. If AI was the only music I don't really believe music would be interesting to me anymore. I listen to it to get into the mind and experience. If it's just "sound" it looses the whole appeal for me. Same reason Im not really impressed by AI art. It's fascinating but who cares. Same with the difference between photographs and paintings. Photos make the perfect picture of reality. but I still enjoy paintings.

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

Yeah I am pretty much of the same vein too. The thing is if one can distinguish something artificial from the real thing, that's when things get tricky. Some of the latest AI trickery is quite mind mending

@petersouthwell5971

21 күн бұрын

@@ministryofguitar Lets hope us guitar lovers can keep it real!

@loiswells3062

14 күн бұрын

@@ministryofguitar So how do you imagine these shows would be planned? Would it be a unique performance, set in stone so to speak, with no variation from night to night? Or would there be different versions with some randomness thrown in, so you could attend several times and it would never be exactly the same experience.

Bring realistic Beatles AI holographic concerts, I would pay for that xD.

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

so would I honestly. especially if its indistinguishable from reality

@loiswells3062

14 күн бұрын

I quit attending rock concerts when they got so big they could only be held in a stadium & they had to set up Video screens so you could even see the performers. But I might pay to attend one of those zombie recreation shows if it was held in a smaller more intimate setting. Like in the early days when I could see the Doors in a nightclub or Jimi Hendrix in a warehouse. If it was an on-going theater, the producers wouldn't necessarily need to pack in a stadium every show. A small venue, full every night, would suffice. Or, as the movie theaters do now , have small theater clusters playing different shows at the same time.

nope

Don't stray away too much from the main topic, tat puts off interest to watch. Too many side notes, we know even if u don't explain certain concept or idea or anything like that. Just hit straight.

Yes, AI will do this, sooner then we think.

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

Yes I think so too

Gene Simmons of KISS. Once said (I think he was joking but, who knows with him).one day you will see holograms of us on stage.

@RByrne

22 күн бұрын

They've been using holograms for years now. Soon they're going to be using them to play concerts in multiple venues at once, sports events, and other "live" performances.

@dewey7330

22 күн бұрын

@@RByrne I didn’t see/hear that. I do know they have been using backing tacks for years.

@ltgray2780

21 күн бұрын

Gene will do anything for $$$$$.

@vaporman442

20 күн бұрын

KISS announced at their farewell show they will continue as a virtual reality experience. They sold their music catalog, branding, images and all licensing to the company that did the ABBA experience.

@dewey7330

20 күн бұрын

@@vaporman442 LMAO. How much will those tickets cost?

good content but need better mic.

@ministryofguitar

20 күн бұрын

Technical error while recording :)

@aksisoylenemez

19 күн бұрын

@@ministryofguitar Yup other videos are legit. Cheers!

ABBA concept plus AI(ML)

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

Exactly

Perfect venue will be Vegas

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

I'm sure they are already thinking about it

Labels like Sony does not own the right to the likeness of these artists to the length you describe and what zombie will pay to see a fake Elvis?

At first I was like nah...never would I wanna watch fake artists performing fake music. Then I thought again... I would definitely go see Metallica with Cliff Burton back on bass! Much respect to Trujillo and Newstead but the shoes they had to fill did not belong to a mortal man...

EVERYTHING seems to be changing not in ways I cannot imagine but in CRAZY, AWFUL and BIZARRE ways!! And all thanks to AI. Well, I , for one, think AI SUCKS BIG TIME!! I know it’s not gonna, but I wish it would GO AWAY!! 😮😮😮😮

Sounds like a legal mess. How do you think the family of said deceased artist would feel about this?

@TheFlamingBridges

18 күн бұрын

Money or no money , I guess

jesus said when he returns he will resurect the dead

This won't work because although you'll be able to see the artist performing, the music won't be live, that raw bone-shaking sound coming out of amplifiers

shorten copyright terms to the life of the artist. end rent seeking.

@ministryofguitar

22 күн бұрын

It used to be the case. Till Disney came along and helped change the law. An interesting (and very greedy) piece of history one can read up on

@scorchedearthdj

13 күн бұрын

@@ministryofguitar it's total abuse of protections for authors of creative works

Yeah ... I don't like it.

I wouldn't call Michael Jackson a rockstar. He's more of a popstar.

@romeou4965

21 күн бұрын

Known as “king of pop”

@loiswells3062

14 күн бұрын

There's a fine line between Rock and Pop. Pop is now based on Rock instruments, Rock rhythms, rock singing styles. The very word "rockstar" has evolved into a general term for anyone enormously successful in their field, with adoring fans and followers.

Not trying to be hostile, but you really do have a bit of a marketing-bro techno-inevitability complex about this stuff. It's hype. AI is already a laughing stock culturally, and the media remake industrial complex will run out of fodder eventually. Can't say the future of arts and culture looks rosy in late stage capitalism, but I wish this crass idea all the failure it deserves.

Can't waIt to see Weird AI YanchovIck lIve