Always i wait eagerly for your videos sir.A lot of Love❤❤❤ from India.

Mister Supranational❤ Miss Universe

I was hoping this video would talk more about physical traits of winners. For example, almost all the Mister Supranational winners have dark hair, narrow eyes, and are very tall.

As a male national title holder i really agree with many of your points

I've always noticed that most Mister Supra winners are Western men with full beard. I wish they can crown another race in the next edition and be more diverse. Whereas in Miss Supra, it's more diverse since they have Asian, Latina, European and African winners in the past. I hope their male counterpart which is the Mister Supra can do the same 🙂

@bobodalasousupreme3812

11 ай бұрын

Admit it, it is very visible obvious answer. western ♂ are the one you look to. In lighter note, male pageants are not taken seriously, I even thought the most bored candidate Mr. greece are going to be winner in mr. suprantional just because he's tall, has appealing beard, body hair and muscular. The male division needs to be marketed in meaningful way to be more mainstream just like the female counterpart.

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

A preference for facial hair will put Far Eastern contestants at a disadvantage.

I always love ur vlog.. i always get infos, important infos from u..

I've always wondered how do the straight male juries in women's pageants (as well as straight women and gay men juries in male pageants) in the different pageants balance out trying to find out who throughout the process and/or in the night of the main competition is the right person for the title while not getting tempted to favour the men/women they would personally be most attracted to.

Mister Supra is the best International Male pageant so far.

@jacob-ni6jr

11 ай бұрын

Males don’t need pageants tbh-

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

Which male pageant is really the most prestigious? Mr World Mister International Mr Supranational Manhunt international Because all these pageants claim they are the #1

@bobodalasousupreme3812

11 ай бұрын

@@jacob-ni6jr because the legit "male pageants" are in the like of Mr. Olympia aka bodybuilding contenst.

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

Well, I think at the very least a successful pageant needs to be held annually on a consistent basis! 🤷🏽‍♂️

A great one as always!!

Another bonza video as always! 🙂 I often have wondered this too - who decides what is “beautiful”?! Often times I guess it’s a personal preference - but a tough one in this arena. Also odd that we (Australia) send a delegate to Miss Supranational, but not Mr. I wonder why! So proud of you being included in the recent Supranational chats. What a thrill that must have been. Well done you! 😀

Super thanks!!!

You truly are THE Pageant NERD... good analysis as always...

The Pageant Nerd, I think you should make a video if which is the best male beauty contest. Its still not clear the rank of the big 4 in male pageantry. Mr International and Mr Supranational are held every year and are definitely in top 3 Manhunt international used to be the most prestigious back in 1990s to 2000s, I remember the old winners back then. But since 2010s they lost appeal and the winners now aren't in the same caliber as used to be Mr world is held every 2-3 years but they usually have the most number of delegates, plus they arguably have the finest and most well rounded guys competing... handsome, good personality and successful/well educated

People seem to forget that the main PURPOSE of pageants is To SELL. Organizers want to court sponsors' endorsement contracts, public appearances, etc. The Alphas have more leeway to deviate from standard beauty norms because of the strength of their brands. However Supra is still establishing itself and for now at least, will go for the obviously commercial choice.

Miss Supra is next to Miss Universe and Muss world in terms of quality, production and goals.

The same thing could be said for female pageants. There's a reason why there’s never been a fat Miss Universe. I think it's normal to be held to a certain type of standard when it comes to pageantry. These are beauty pageants after all and part of being beautiful is having a good body female or male. It shows dedication and consistency towards a healthy lifestyle which is important for being a global ambassador. It's not enough to be smart and have a good personality. The majority of people in life have these qualities. What sets these pageant contestants apart from normal every day people is having those qualities as well as being beautiful and having an amazing body. We want to see the best of the best competing and winning. What's the point in rewarding mediocracy? I think Asia and The America's do so well in pageantry because countries from these regions treat pageantry like professional sports. The opportunities given to successful pageant girls are huge and they have big budgets and teams to turn anyone into a star. That's why they continue to win. I don't think these pageants have a type as such I feel that countries like Philippines, Venezuela and South Africa produce a lot of winners because the spend more time, money and effort creating future pageant kings and queens.

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

Pageant celebrates beauty that are above the norm. Otherwise, what's the point.

Great content 😘 @00:23 hi pageant nerd, I just wanna ask if your background was a real vintage bricks or tiles? thanks hope u respond 😍😍

Nice top blazer Roger. 😃

2% of the world is blond, so statistically it makes sense that they rarely win…. They were popular in the 80s but beauty standards have changed.

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

50s to 80s blondes rule mw and mu

Very balanced video ...as usual! Keep up the good work 👍🏾

Hope you can discuss about showing the score on television. Only the viewers can see it. Are you in favor or not.

In 2013, Mr Lebanon, Ayman Soussa, went unplaced at Mr World. To this day, I still think he's a perfect specimen of a gorgeaus young man. But he never fit the "Mr" mould/type. He had a full beard, a hairy body, slightly balding and a lot of bulk. Check him out!

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation. Big thumbs up from me! I think the whole notion of hairy chest vs. smooth/shaved is something that needs to be addressed at some point in future. Yes, smooth shows more muscle definition, but there shouldn’t be anything wrong with natural body hair!

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

​@@PageantNerd Mr International...smooth, lean, boyish wholesome good looks who is like a fashion model Mr Supranational... Ruggedly handsome, daddy type, dark features, not lean but muscular, looks like a manly porn actor Do you agree?

Roger - so good to see you. I love seeing your content before starting my workday. Congratulations on being involved with Supranational and finally getting the spotlight that you deserve as a channel owner. I didn't know you were involved, and I regret missing it! But and it's a big but I had called your success in this world a while back. I knew the quality of your content would take you places, and it has. Well done you. I saw Miss Supranational live. The new title holder certainly does fulfill a certain formula of queens that are crowned. But without being a judge we can never truly know what goes on during judging and why certain types of beauty or physical attributes are more favored. For example, Mr. Supranational is very handsome and charming but, in my opinion, his first runner up is more "handsome" or attractive or whatever. I am all about faces instead of overall bodies or height. These differences of opinion keep the world going around and around I suppose. Interesting and relevant topic today. Hope you and yours are well, and safe and happy. Again, so good to see you. XO Joseph from the US

Roger, it looks like Miss World is more progressive in making pageant relative than Miss Universe. And it seems that Miss Universe is lagging behind MW in terms of relevancy, change and diversity. It looks MU is just noise and mere glam.

@Jprager

8 ай бұрын

lol we’ll see what happens whenever they hold their pageant again? It’s been nearly 4 years since a production m.

The truth is that male beauty pageants are still on a long way to evolve. The cookie cutter pattern offends me because the message is that only that type represents masculinity forgetting that there are other types of men that could be a messenger. Also, these male pageants don't transmit their purposes of existence. What message do they want to transmit?

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

Looking at the Top 5 at Mr. Supra, it was almost like they had the Asian and African contestant there as some form of quota...because you know they do not stand a chance against Mr. Six Foot FIve.

@LuisMartinez-ot3ju

11 ай бұрын

@@PungiFungi I kind agree with you but one thing I don't have clear of those male pageants is the purpose.

Timely question as I found myself asking why I wanted a certain girl to win Miss SA due to her look. I had to stop myself. However, sometimes diversity can come at its own cost that changes the appeal of the pageant itself (that's just my opinion). If anybody can win Miss Universe then there isn't that much to fight for now is there. Even in Miss World that we can all agree is diverse in the women who win but they all fit a certain prototype just like you have said. At the end of the day, the eye of whoever is judging, decides what they believe is beautiful. Women truly have made strides in changing the beauty standard that the men can certainly catch up on... but essentially we all enjoying looking at the "beautiful" women as they take the stage. Also I agree that Miss Universe is notorious for sticking to a certain type for too long. First it was the blondes, now the brunettes smh that could certainly change

I think each of the judges in the panel could also affect the course of final result considering his or her own impression of the contestant's overall performance.

Pageants today become a sports competition , contestants become athletes they need to prepare becoz this is a competition & they representing their country in a way they nid to be in their best

No doubt, Mr. Supra is getting so predictable, you wouldn't even be surprised the winner won. So many hot bets like Thailand 2018, Brazil 2017 and 2023, Venezuela 2021, and Indonesia 2022 had to sit out because of this Supra-type. And FYI, before there was Sierra Bearchell, there was Andrea Fonseka in Miss U 2004. The pageant community was just more vicious in her time than in Siera's time. She got out unscathed while Andrea was called Worst in Swimsuit for 2004

i hope there will be Mister Grand International

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

That sounds like a gay or drag pageant.😁

You never fail to amaze me TPN. Nice content again keep it up.

Mister supranational is a new pageant!! When you guys go when it comes to Miss International who have never crowded an African or South Asian country!!! 🤧

Plz Is do favs for miss diva

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

I don’t think I’m going to have time! I really only do content that I’ve researched properly and I just admit I haven’t had a really in-depth look at Miss Diva this year. But I definitively hope to do an India preview before MU.

I can admit about next video: Several countries who win the crown but did not have more placements? - Example being Honduras went to win Miss Earth 2003 as the country first major international pageant of any kind and later in 2015 another Honduran placement take place as 1st Runner-Up in Miss International - Will you have ever see it?

Miss Universe Indonesia 2023 yang baru diselenggarakan juga menimbulkan kontroversi bagi Pageant Lover, karena postur tubuh sang juara yang tidak terlalu tinggi.

Miss Grand 🎪 and Miss Supermarket are not Grand Slam pageants. And you deserve to judge Alpha Pageants not this circus and supermarket.

Sir please share your view on Miss South Africa 2023 final result.

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

OK, I’ll add a little mention to the video I’m working on at the moment!

@user-iv3uk8kd2j

11 ай бұрын

Ok.Thank you so much.

@orlandojrsevilla1836

11 ай бұрын

​​@@PageantNerd, Humble Request I hope you can make an Analysis and Reaction on the recently Miss Universe Thailand 2023 Anntonia Porsild MUT 23 Nakhon Ratchasima and Former Miss Supranational Thailand 2019 is the newly crowned Miss Universe Thailand 2023 👑🇹🇭 She is making History competing in Two of the Five Major Beauty Pageants Supranational to Universe She's aiming for the 3rd Miss Universe Crown in Thailand (The First in 35 Years) Will patiently wait for the Download ❤😊

I also constantly question why countries like Brazil, Indonesia, India, Thailand etc, that have a lot of darker skinned people only ever send the most pale. The best Brazil could do in 2016-2017 was mixed race women...

@mymiphone1841

11 ай бұрын

Colombia also ....there lots of blacks bauties in Colombia that they don't send to miss universe

@colourqueen22

11 ай бұрын

@@mymiphone1841 2021 2nd runner up at MUC was one of my favourite queens... She is soooo beautiful, shame she didn't win

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

​@@mymiphone1841in 2002 Colombia sent a black queen to miss universe, she was favorite to win that time but surprisingly unplaced

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

Participating pageants is expensive. In most of these countries, lighter skinned people tend to be of upper economic status.

@colourqueen22

11 ай бұрын

@@PungiFungi sadly

That's why Miss World usually have unexpected winners because they give everyone a chance...

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

MU used to have more countries winning than MW but that had changed drastically starting in the mid 2000s.

@MISU2004A

9 ай бұрын

MW attracts around 115-120 countries annually so yeah it is way more ahead in terms of no of contestants and also diversity. MU will take at least a decade to go there.

@levitabacug3377

8 ай бұрын

@@MISU2004AMW is generally taking just anyone to participate but MU is an exclusive club catering with class and sophistication. Bow?

Yes...Pageants should have a type , I feel " blueprint " 🙂 would be a better word. Results should be based/honed int9 that - more like a background. The results so happened that the winners had similar features....nevertheless I felt they won..because they performed well.. Again..yes..Pageants should have a." Type "....otherwise will be having a zoo of participants

Every competition carries a particular brand the sponsoring organization upholds. Ever wondered with the success of say Africa as you mentioned in World and Universe,it yet to recieve a crown from International.It's only Philippines' Meghan Young to win a World crown considering the country fares well in Universe and Int'l. India also fared better in World *did the country has the highest # of wins? yet not the same popularity in Int'l. Watching ur commentary, the question that popped is Whether it's fair to limit (other than age for now) the participation of the delegate to another alpha pageant otherwise we wont have the celebrated cross-over queens like World to Universe 1971 Lebanon, 1989 Holland, 1990s Namibia & Nigeria,2018 Philippines,2020 Mexico (im not as versed with the other three pageants but some in memory like 1974 Wales (uni to world but dethroned)1979 Bermuda (uni to world),1987 Puerto Rico (Univ-Intl); 1997 Panama(uni to Intl) knowing by observation that they do have bias for the sake of brand and that maybe it's taken as a "negative" in the audience to have these biases they are still an corp. In the end.and when a particular stand-out doesnt win in one aside from the "not her time"maybe "it's not the right pageant"has to be considered when choosing the delegate to represent and see the "bias" as a transparency of sorts. It's yet to be seen what wud transpire with Natasha Joubert representing Miss U 2021 (where she was 2nd ru) and now winning Miss South Africa Universe-will she be the first delegate setting foot on the Miss Universe stage twice? Just like sports-gymnasts and weightlifters are smaller in stature, swimmers and tennis players are leaner,volleyball and basketball taller. Even locally in the Philippines,it's often a big topic re. delegates with multiple race origins winning at one point was questioned. But nothin is set in stone... Even if it took as long as 2023 for Fil-am to win Miss texas,then miss usa-then universe. 1997 Universe Hawaii Brook Lee was of mixed race. And only in 1990 Miss Michigan USA became the 1st black american to win follwed by Texas 1995 Chelsi Smith(+) to win Miss U. This recent decade,black americans became Miss USA delagates: 2016Deshauna, 2017Kari,2019 Cheslie(+), 2020 Asya,2021 Elle(back to back to back) I guess in the end, people with passion like yours TPN/Roger are the unsung hereos who adds to the relevance of the glitzy world of pageants. KEEP IT UP. cheers

Thanks

@danielq7828

11 ай бұрын

Always looking forward for your videos!

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you so much! Really appreciate your kind gesture and the kind words. So glad you’re enjoying my nerdy videos! 😘😘😘

iN THE MALE THEY PICKED THE RIGHT ONE.

About transgender men: Mister International declared after their 2019 editions conclusion that "they too will accept transgender men" in the name of diversity and acceptance since Miss Universe has started accepting TGWs since 2012 but had its first -ever TGW contestant in 2018. So far no TGM has competed in Mr. Intl. and we have yet to see one in the next editions.

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

Which male pageant is really the most prestigious? Mr World Mister International Mr Supranational Manhunt international Because all these pageants claim they are the #1

@lukes.3488

11 ай бұрын

I would say Mr. World before but now, it should be Mr. Supranational.

I remember hearing that, in 1970, Life magazine ran pictures of the last 10 Miss Americas and all looked alike, or appeared to be the same type. Perhaps this was especially true if they started with Lynda Lee Mead and didn’t end with Pam Eldred, who was blonde. In 1978, when Kylene Barker won Miss Virginia, a local critic wrote a column on how unusual it was for a blonde to win in the Miss America system, even if this was just two years after Dorothy Benham won.

Greetings, Pageant Nerd. In light of recent adjustments within the Miss International pageant, such as the exclusion of the swimsuit competition during the finals, the question arises: Will the Miss Universe competition also consider similar changes? Is there mounting influence for beauty pageants across the board to follow this trend? I am eager to hear your perspective on these developments. Do you believe that this signifies positive progress within the pageant scene?

for me as a filipino i felt their worth...its okay that Ecuador won along with Philippines...lets just give others some chance...since Philippines achieves so many crowns minor or major knowing that Philippines is a pageant loving country❤❤❤❤

@rcj7299

11 ай бұрын

Depends on the hardwork!

Hello paegent need there is a video where it is being said that paegents are outmoded and be banned, what are your thoughts.

@PageantNerd

11 ай бұрын

Hi Emmanuel, thanks for your comment. People questioning the relevance of pageantry is almost as old as the pageants themselves! But certainly in more recent times there’s the feeling that pageants are becoming less in line with modern thinking as it relates to superficiality and a focus on aesthetics, body shape, etc. As I touched on very briefly at the end of this video, some pageants’ move towards having their winners also be philanthropists or community leaders indeed brings into question why these people also need to be beautiful to do good work. On the other hand, there’s no denying that we as humans appreciate the physical form and some (not all) of us aspire to be like others based on their style, looks, fitness or other surface qualities. Obviously as a pageant fan I see great benefit from these competitions, and how they truly motivate contestants to be better versions of themselves. That, of course, only matters when the people in question are well-balanced in terms of their eating habits, self-perception of their bodies and minds. In short, as long as pageants can project a majority positive image for the contestants and also its fans then they can be good things to allow people to thrive in an area they enjoy. Having said that, toxic fans are a huge problem and have genuine negative impacts on contestants who are only trying their best and hoping to make others proud. Nothing is perfect, but I certainly see more value in pageantry than in so many other forms of entertainment and reality programming. Pageants CAN be a positive influence on others, but they’re definitely not perfect in their current form. What do you think about that topic?

@emmanuelagyeman1277

11 ай бұрын

@@PageantNerd About the topic of pageantry, we are in modern times and social media has been so free and dispensable. Even though, we can't control people's attitudes,let the majority of us on the social space, see a pageants as a platform to give people the chance to help others and also to empower them to become the best version of ourselves but not as platform where we compare the people the individuals who compete by being toxic #Let's be positive

Well done. I usually do the same thing for all pageants; I Only judge them during prelims. I do agree with Mister Supranational Winners. They do have the type. When I see the final 2 this year, I knew 🇪🇸Spain will win. Brazil has the most top 5 finishers in history. English is an international business language. Since Pageantry is a job interview, each Titleholder need to be a brand ambassador not only to the organisation but their sponsors as well.

If Supra has a certain type of a make prototypes then I would urge my country South Africa not to send a black candidate because majority of us are of Khoisan background and we are not tall and full bearded. I would urge Asia not to send delegates because it means we are not the standard male prototypes. I would also urge Mr Supra to detail their prototype on paper so that it can be clear

8:22 _”If a pageant’s type means it includes certain races, that’s not cool.”_ 📣 *Yes Roger!!* 👏🏼🙌🏻

Roger this is a very good pageant panel topic though I am starting to feel many national and international pageants are becoming accepting of diversity but I do feel skin color is an issue in certain countries that do not show the true diversity in skin color that exist in those countries. We should not crown someone to fit a quota but we also should not deny giving a deserving winner a title because they don't fit a particular beauty preference. As a person of color, I can see beauty in all shades.

@mymiphone1841

11 ай бұрын

I visited Colombia 5 years ago. I was surprised to see many black people. I Never knew that before and by watching miss universe, they always sent white girls. Meanwhile, in my opinion Colombia has probably the most blacks women on earth, base on what i saw when i was there.

@PungiFungi

11 ай бұрын

@@mymiphone1841 if you go by what you see representing Latin America in pageants you’d think only white people live there.

7:22 Miss Earth's first ever winner was from Denmark.... and I do not know if this accounts for both European and African winner but in Miss Earth 2002, the original winner was in fact a European woman-- from Bosnia and Herzegovina but was later dethroned and replaced by Miss Kenya. So far, in Miss Earth's history, BOSHRZ and DEN have remained the only two women who won the title. However, if we discount BOSHRZ, then this makes Denmark the only European woman to ever win ME.

@johnmarkguerra1142

11 ай бұрын

Miss Czech Republic won last 2012 at Miss Earth.

Why can't blondes win Miss Universe now?

@taroupriapus9760

11 ай бұрын

Weird isnt it, blonde's rule 50s to 80s. After Jennifer in 2004, the next time a blonde reached top 2 was in 2019..

@bobodalasousupreme3812

11 ай бұрын

Let's see on the new directorship of the thai person, she starts well the pageant last 2022 by selecting deserving candidates. I hope the IMG legacy are forgotten forever, worst production and selection of winners.

Pageants have a certain "mold" or stereotype, this helps them stand out from competitors and associate that stereotype with their brand. It is very important. For example Miss universe....fierce confident smart eloquent modelesque walk and Hollywood glamour Miss international... Tall white demure doll-like soft spoken/soft features Miss World... Beautiful inside and out, well rounded, Disney princess, royal type of beauty, has a heart for charities Mr international.... usually tall lean hairless swimmers body type Mr Supranational... Tall scruffy daddy looks manly muscular who is also handsome and inspiring So there you have it,. stereotypes are important, though they sometimes break that stereotype to eliminate predictability and boredom, they usually stick to it as part of the culture of the pageant

Miss world is …….. Miss worst…

Mr Supranational 2023 official results 1 Spain 2 Brazil 3 Netherlands 4 Korea 5 Cameroon 6 Mexico 7 Czechoslovakia 8 Ecuador 9 Thailand 10 Malaysia 11 USA 12 Italy 13 France 14 Panama 15 South Africa 16 Poland 17 Indonesia 18 Philippines 19 Canada 20 Trinidad 21 Venezuela 22 Peru 23 Argentina 24 Belgium 25 India