Good I miss the old school seriousness of these guys. No stupid gimmicks or jokes, just pure racing passion and knowledge. You never appreciate what you had until it's gone 😢

@TheRidgeChannel

2 ай бұрын

Defo - better than this charade of over excited semi professional pundits boring us to death!!! Brundle now the last of the greats

@ab8jeh

2 ай бұрын

Murdoch killed any semblance of intelligence ​@@TheRidgeChannel

@LexLuthor1234

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheRidgeChannel a good few of the current f1 media ppl could probably be a lot more ruthless/honest/straight talking, and thus interesting, if that was the line wanted by their employer. I doubt it is though, as the strategy seems to be to try and downtalk the reality of how (un)competitive f1 is, once one team produces a signifiicantly superior car to the others.

@keepitsports236

2 күн бұрын

@@TheRidgeChannel Agreed, maybe Hill as well. But Ted Is a character.

Better than the rubbish I’m paying £20 a month for with Sky.

@MrNinjaFish

2 ай бұрын

There is a way to watch it for free on the interwebs via FSL

@_Ben4810

2 ай бұрын

Hard to believe that Liberty, Formula One Limited & the teams themselves accept the sub-standard & dated yawnfest output of Sky F1 as the way to broadcast & represent their sport...

@DennisBloodnokPhotographyVideo

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully , when the current broadcast deal ends in 2025/26) we will get a new and better broadcaster show F1.

@TheLondonStoryteller

2 ай бұрын

@@_Ben4810 No one is willing to tell it like it is or has the gravitas of James Hunt to do so, except Martin Brundle, and even his wings have been clipped because they don't want to upset the advertisers or Liberty. They've levelled the coverage into something that they could sell. Lots of "content" not much real action.

@AlanMcB

2 ай бұрын

@@TheLondonStoryteller They don't want to upset the drivers and teams either.

James was the simply the perfect foil for Murray; they could make even the most boring race worth watching. I’m so glad that I got to listen to them season after season growing up. It was never the same after James went to the commentary box in the sky. (No offence to Dr Jonathan Palmer). Murray was great, but James made him better.

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

jonathan was rubbish always remind me of yes minister with the health minister hes a doctor hes seen death etc

@heliumtrophy

2 ай бұрын

It's why Eurosport's coverage was the top drawer for me because Palmer just sounded like a muffled parrot next to Murray. There needed to be that contrast in tones to make it work.

@hugodrax71

Ай бұрын

Walker and Hunt's commentary on the last laps of the Monaco '82 race remains the greatest F1 commentary I've ever had the pleasure to listen to.

I could listen to Murray and James talk F1 all night. Those two guys were brilliant! James was taken way too young and I missed his input during the races. Great video and I will save the video and watch it to remind myself how presenters should be like

@davidfoster3814

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I u tube watched recently the pre amble to the 1993 British Grand Prix. It was concise , informative, interesting and leagues better than the current Sky stuff.

"last year he could not have a bigger car advantage" "car advantage people dream about, that he had"... and then came 1992...

When interviews were conducted at the golf club with tea and wine

@motelghost477

2 ай бұрын

These days they'd get cancelled for being too white and patriarchal.

@Chris-sm2uj

3 күн бұрын

@@motelghost477 stop seeing ghosts kid

Murray and James were perfect. If the race was a bit boring, they would spark off of each other, and if it was a good race, it was pure entertainment. I miss both.

Hunt talking about Schumi in this early stage of his career is..... kinda wow.

@AlanMcB

2 ай бұрын

Also Hunt talking up his successor in the commentary box Martin Brundle.

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@AlanMcB well martin's debut was 1989 Belguim gp when james was "ill" in bed

@heliumtrophy

2 ай бұрын

@@alexlazebat839 Or as his excuse was afterwards "I was up to my nuts in guts, Murray!"

His comments on Luca Montezemolo building a foundation for success and Schumacher’s potential were truly prophetic.

Dear David Croft, Please watch this. And then either change or resign. Kind regards, The fans.

I miss these two so much

11:50 "choking problems" 🤣🤣🤣 Hunt's straightforwardness is something that is needed in the current climate of F1

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

i think that based on mexico 86, japan 87, 91, canada 92

I've been looking for this for decades!! I remember when this was shown on Sunday Grandstand a week or so before the 1992 season began. Fantastic discussion from these two legends of motorsport.

@steveetienne

2 күн бұрын

The legendary Lukozer!

Walker and Hunt. Wonderful days. At the time we didn't know how lucky we were.

Nice to see James being shown as the intelligent racer he was.

Two legendary experts, and friends, talking rationally and knowledgeably. I miss these two.

The UK needs people like James Hunt now

Hunt was fantastic on the BBC coverage of F1!

I miss these guys growing up watching F1 with them

This is simply golden, very much missed

They really were not too wide of the mark with their predictions. Always liked James..Always very straight talking but could back up what he said

@Alexander_Snowden

2 ай бұрын

He is great to listen to here, I would quite happily listen to him talking like this for hours. Very articulate, and presented the sport's intrigue and technical aspects in a quite accessible but also very in-depth way.

This is so engaging to watch these two icons of Motor Racing discussing the then forthcoming 1992 season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and James's logic is understandable re the McLaren/Williams 91 conclusion and prospect of 92, yet as we know, Nigel dominated much of the 1992 season with a car Williams developed further. I take exception to James stating Mansell threw his previous title challenges away. 86 - That was clearly a tyre failure in Adelaide. 87 - Yes, that was driver error at Suzuka. However, I understood from Williams at the time of the 91 title challenge end at Suzuka, Mansell's break pedal failed on the first corner, hence why he went off. The era and these two guys was for me, the true golden period of F1. Mansell, Senna, Prost, Piquet and Schumacher. The screaming engines, the off track events and arguments and dear Murray, so dearly missed. I agree with one of the comments on here re the comparison with today's Sky coverage. It is more indepth, but why so many women commentators? Where have all the ex drivers gone who can offer and relate from experience, so very much more. Martin Brundle is the only one left for me who, as Murray's pupil years ago, is an excellent and knowledgeable commentator. The rest are box ticking reasons which result in a lesser experience for the viewer. I'd love to hear these two discussing today's grid. Max, Carlos, Charles, Sergio, Lando, George, Fernando etc. Perhaps they are up there watching and commentating still. God bless them both.

I was blessed to be watching the F1 series when these two broadcasting Goliath’s were educating and entertaining us with their F1 knowledge and enthusiasm. We’ve never had the like since and new fans of the sports series have been starved of this brilliance.

Oh that was absolutely brilliant and a fantastic dose of nostalgia. Thanks so much for sharing this! Jeez I wish that Prost did have a year at Ligier - it would have been fascinating to see how they went.

James Hunt the man every guy wishes they could be, such a badass

@AdamTheMan1993

Ай бұрын

James Hunt was without a doubt the ultimate playboy

Love Murray and James, what a duo. My Dad used to race against James in F3.

So interesting to look back at these discussions. I’d been watching F1 for years back then, and to revisit now is quite fun. Much has changed and much the same. RIP James and Murray.

Two absolute legends and a great watch. I think they both called the 1992 Champion correctly with Mansell really. Murray at chuffed bursting point when James in a roundabout way after stating Senna basically said it's Mansell's if he wants it. A coming of age for Scumacher that season, they both obviously recognised there was a very special driver in the midst of F1 coming through just maybe not quite in that season with Benetton..it happened though. Quality viewing.

Rip Murray and James

Love this. Back when F1 was about raw power and had characters all over the grid. I still enjoy F1 now but it's just not the same as it was in the 90's.

@mikestewart368

2 ай бұрын

nowhere near it.

@Jrh-rp7np

2 ай бұрын

Looking back just hurts,, everything was better in the 90s I swear,, Music,,Movies,, sports,, life in general,,, I mean a man could work at a factory and still be able to buy a home,, have a nice car and go on a vacation once a year… Now, the middle class is dying… Don’t look back it just hurts just try and get by and find happiness when you can…

Nice to see people in the sport actually having opinions. The ones who do these days are cast aside.

@motelghost477

2 ай бұрын

The number of times I've seen world champion Damon Hill stand there in silence while some woman (who drove in zero Grand Prixs) gives her "experienced" opinion.

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@motelghost477 not in f1 but you need an f1 driver

@heliumtrophy

2 ай бұрын

Too much money in the sport now. There's PR teams and legal teams that will go over what was said and the last thing any TV station wants is to be sued for any reason you can name.

@Chris-sm2uj

3 күн бұрын

@@motelghost477 more experienced than you kid

@QuattroSG

3 күн бұрын

Oh shut up Chris 🙄

This is brilliant material please keep it coming

I think that by the end of their working partnership, they worked well together and respected each other.

I could listen to those two all day long.

What a treat, thanks for sharing. I regularly go through old F1 races, one of the main reasons is to listen to James. He was spot on about so many things and of course his no nonsense style was always fun to hear.

@paulguitar100

2 ай бұрын

Presume you meant 'no nonsense'!

@markfarnon6742

2 ай бұрын

@@paulguitar100 oh dear, I was still sleepy when I wrote that I think - many thanks!

@paulguitar100

2 ай бұрын

@@markfarnon6742 No worries, we've all done it. 😀

I could listen to these two all day.

What a treat that was to watch, thanks for uploading! Really miss these two.

Thanks for the upload, a real gem!

There was only ONE James Hunt.

Oh how I miss Murray Walkers commentaries 😢 he and James Hunt made F1 so interesting, especially Murray with the way he expressed himself every time Prost and Senna collided and when Jancarno fisichella got caught in a fire in the pits and many more. I've got a dvd of Murray's f1 favourites and he was very emotional when talking about Ayrton, Nigel Mansell, Nikki Lauda, Stirling moss and other F1 greats and there was also a pizza hut clip of him in a restaurant with Damon Hill while he was eating a pizza and his commentary in this advert was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂 rip Murray ❤

Around the same time James Hunt & Murray Walker sat down for this chat, Alain Prost & Frank Williams would have sat down for their little chat, signing Prost for 1993 but not telling Mansell until after he won the championship.

Two intelligent, beautifully spoken, understatedly wonderful F1 broadcasters. God I miss this. From this to to high-pitched excited children masquerading as broadcasters- Croft, Herbert, Brooks and Pinkham. What a fall from grace. Only Brundle and Chandhok (underrated) possess any of the quality of these two great men of yesteryear.

What a fantastic discussion,,,we need more JH and MW in the world

James Hunt certainly new what he was talking about

For Ferrari I love the subtle distinction between possible and probable. Prophetic; it was "possible"

This is like podcast viewing before it became a thing.

Thank you so much for uploading this!!!

James is a legend, gone too soon.

Good to see this video the evidence is there Prost leaves no space for Senna in 1990 and he clearly goes to the curb. Nicely done Mr Hunt

People loved James total hero

I agree. I think this shoe maker chap will go on to be quite successful

I miss these convos. Jordan were the joker in the pack, but that awful Yamaha V12 really put them back. The real joker in the pack that year was Lotus, who got a good engine (the Ford HB) and the 107 chassis, designed by Chris Murphy was excellent. The other nice surprises of the season were Tyrrell, who always produced a good chassis, and got a light, but powerful V10 Ilmor engine, and De Cesaris was very competent. The other surprise was Footwork, who got a lovely Mugen unit in the back of a heavy, but reliable chassis. Michele Alboreto did an excellent job, finishing 14 of the 16 races, even if Aguri Suzuki seemed unsettled all year.

James 1) entirely correct that Mansell squandered 3 WDCs before 92 and 2) completely wrong to think Williams and McLaren would be competitive in 92: FW14B remains one of the most dominant cars in F1 history and only the current Red Bull and MP4-4 are close

@cdname47

2 ай бұрын

I don't see having a tyre explode on him was his fault but he's right on the other two

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@cdname47 mexico 1986, 3rd on the Grid stalled and finished in a lapped 5th had he stayed 3rd he would of been champion

@Ellemerob

2 ай бұрын

@@cdname47 Mansell wasn't great at conserving his tyres though. Spain and Detroit 1986 spring to mind.

@Ellemerob

2 ай бұрын

@@alexlazebat839 To be fair Mansell was unwell for Mexico 1986. Montezuma's Revenge

I'd forgotten that Prost nearly signed for Ligier. Miss these legends, soundtrack of my childhood!

Pre social media TV at it's best. Could watch all night

Great video ❤

I'm actually too young. But these are men who have shaped the image of an Englishman for me, true gentlemen, a great conversational culture. I could listen to these conversations for hours. Much respect and appreciation for my English neighbors. Love from Germany

im old, I remember watching this.

Excellent watch, thankyou

I know he lived live to full and then some, but James looks and sounds good for 44 here back in those days. Shocking he'd be dead in a years time.

@skeena59

Ай бұрын

It was a bloody shame, gone too soon. We needed him around much longer.

@intothemultiverse1033

Ай бұрын

Hunt would be amazing in this current world climate 😂

@RobertEHunt-dv9sq

15 күн бұрын

Unfortunately the life he lived contributed greatly to his heart condition. RIP James and Murray. They are greatly missed.

Murray Walker is one of the greatest tv sport commentators ever , jointly with Vincent Scully ( CBS, USA baseball) and Adriano De Zan ( Rai , Italy , Cycling)

superb content, thx

This is fantastic

He’s absolutely correct. Mansell was my idol growing up and I always thought how unlucky he was. But I’m 42 now and think that Mansell is both the most underrated and overrated champion. He had the best car 4 times but won the WDC once. When Prost and Senna won championships when they didn’t have the best car sometimes. He also went to Indy in 93 because he didn’t want to race Prost in the same car for fear of losing. But the sad thing is in the active car, everyone one in the know said that no one ( including Senna ) could have beaten him in the active car.

@ab8jeh

2 ай бұрын

93, didn't Prost veto Mansell being there? Not sure it was the other way around.

@smith2781

2 ай бұрын

@@ab8jeh No. Prost vito Senna. Prost was actually accepted equal status with Mansell. But because Prost got the better of Mansell when they were teammates in Ferrari. He was afraid deep down that it would happen again. He started demanding ridiculous demands in his contract like wanting 4 hotel rooms and silly stuff like that. Then played the poor old him being forced out of Williams because of Prost when that wasn’t the case. According to Patrick Head that’s why they didn’t sign him for 95 as they didn’t want problems with him. He was notoriously difficult at times, like in 87 they wanted him to test the active car and he told them no. So Piquet was flying from Brazil to England every week to test it. Then when he raced it at Monza he won. Then Mansell started complaining in the press how the team favoured Piquet and gave him No1 status etc. He was basically a drama queen. Great driver though and still my favourite as a driver. But as a person no.

Great video

Bring these two back please:)

@mikespearwood3914

2 ай бұрын

A bit difficult considering that both passed away!

@guinnessharvey4476

2 ай бұрын

@@mikespearwood3914no kidding

1:56 James Hunt underestimating this Adrian Newey wunderkind at Williams.

James Hunt just explained the wizardry semi auto paddle shift in 10s 😎

Legends Fuck James hunt was a sikunt And ever so honest and knowledgeable 🐐

No James, the fw14 was a semi automatic design from the ground up, there was no option of converting it to manual not even manual sequential. That would have required an all new car or bringing back the fw13

This is from around the time I first got into F1 and I would have been about seven or eight. I was too young to appreciate just how good of a pairing Murray and James were as he’d passed away only a year or so later and can barely remember their commentaries from the time. You can see how James is actually a highly intelligent and articulate guy with very considered (but very forthright) opinions. Almost like he had two completely different personalities compared to his legendary weed-smoking, drinking and womanizing. Very interesting guy. I still think he was deeply wrong blaming Riccardo Patrese for the accident that killed Ronnie Peterson for all those years, but having to help pull one of your best friends out of a burning racing car after an accident you were involved in is going to leave some mental scars, so I can kind of forgive him for that.

Do you have the full chat between Murray and James. It would be worth a watch.

@AlanMcB

2 ай бұрын

This is the whole thing minus the video I posted yesterday. :D

I'm assuming that Alesi and Capelli perched on the tyres of the Ferrari is the 'car launch' of the time. I'm not sure I agree with James that Mansell 'chucked away' those championships. It's interesting hearing their views on Schumacher.

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

mexico 86

@keithbutler2222

2 ай бұрын

@@alexlazebat839 yeah but not all 3

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@keithbutler2222 i agree that japan 87, 91 that hunt based his facts on the wdc was a slim hope anyway or certain races are blurred in his mind as that happenin a certain year

Just outstanding. The type of highly intelligent discussion on sports that's largely absent in the States. Listening, I remember why F1 so captured my imagination when I was first exposed to it in the early nineties. It's brought about many years of 4:00 am wake up calls on Sunday mornings - lol - but I wouldn't have it any other way.

I always enjoyed Murray and James behind the mic. They were both way off on their 92 predictions here. Williams was going to lambast McLaren in 92.

@BJWT1047

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t agree it was “way off” 😉 they predicted Williams and McLaren would be strongest, followed by Ferrari and Benetton. They recognised the immense talent of Schumi and predicted Nigel would be champion if he could step up.

@C_and_C...

2 ай бұрын

Although the FW14 was a very strong package & capable of winning a championship, nobody could predict the impact of the FW14b with it's active suspension & traction control.

@ElectoneGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@BJWT1047 I mostly meant their assessment that it would be another close battle between Williams and McLaren. Their tune changed substantially after the first testing sessions of 92.

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@C_and_C... active suspension hasnt been mentioned in this vid

@C_and_C...

2 ай бұрын

@@alexlazebat839 and?

James was absolutely right !

Difficult to believe James would die of a heart attack so soon after this exchange.

@daveworthing2294

2 ай бұрын

His earlier lifestyle caught up with him.

@alangood8190

2 ай бұрын

@@daveworthing2294 It most certainly didn't help.

@mattperkins1992

2 ай бұрын

How long after was it?

@alexlazebat839

2 ай бұрын

@@mattperkins1992 june 1993

Hunt's voice is just fantastic to listen to

@NicotineRosberg

Ай бұрын

He went to private school, or as they call it in England 'Public School' so he sounds very sophisticated

they don"t know that the active suspension of Williams was going to cancel competition in 1992 I saw the race at Spa (1st of Schumacher) and Mansell was already worldchampion

Amazing listening to this, then watching Channel 4 coverage with Steve Jones trying to be hilarious but actually being awkward.

Quite harsh of James to say that Mansell's mistakes cost him the title beyond the reliability problems - yes he crashed in Japan but the championship was almost gone by then. The only other brainfade he had was Canada but even then you could make a case that the car shouldn't be so fragile. Mechanical issues and wheel nuts cost him at least 40 points that season

@user-wy5xe6ht2m

2 ай бұрын

❄️❄️❄️

@kekepiket9153

2 ай бұрын

and losing to Patrese , his contracted number 2 in qualifying

I have to say I disagree with James saying Mansell "choked" or "threw away" 3 world titles - especiallly 86 and 87 - he deserved to win both of those - it was hardly his fault that he had the tyre blow out in Adelaide in 86 and it was car failures in 87 that cost him that year

@brendanbrown3100

2 ай бұрын

Prost totally deserved 86 - one of the greatest WC performances of all time! Mansell lost out in Mexico by stalling before Adelaide. Prost would have cakewalked 86 in that Williams.

@kekepiket9153

2 ай бұрын

Mansell choked in Mexico 1986 , had luck in Belgium 86, had cramps in Detroit 86 , poor preparation . Prost won fair and square .

@brendanbrown3100

2 ай бұрын

@@kekepiket9153 Yup - that McLaren 86 team was great. Prost, Rosberg, Ron, Steve Nichols. They worked as a team which is not what Williams did.

@kekepiket9153

2 ай бұрын

@@brendanbrown3100 I would not agree. Second Mclaren was poorly , scandalously prepared in both 1985 and 1986 . It was a one man team in those years . Williams had a lot of challenges , no team boss , two great drivers ,and more reliability issues than Mclaren , at least one Mclaren . However , in some capacity , due to Rosberg not being a challenge in terms of points , Prost managed to have an almost error free year and win .

To point out that James Hunt was around 42-43 here…his lifestyle aged him

@TOFKAS01

2 ай бұрын

He died one year later.

@AlanMcB

2 ай бұрын

Nigel Mansell was only 4 or 5 years younger than him at the time.

@TOFKAS01

2 ай бұрын

@@AlanMcB That shown how his lifestyle shortened his career.

Then after this talk in the hotel james got absolutly drunk lol

A bit rich Hunt pontificating over Prost ( truly one of the greats ) - particularly when the Monza 1978 crash is recalled. Murray was on record continually dealing with Hunt’s claims that Patrese was to blame whereas the photographic evidence eventually cleared Patrese. 🤔

James Hunt with that Joker smile in the thumbnail. Just missing the makeup.

Glad I wasn’t taking betting advice from Hunt the Shunt.

Brilliant.

Pretty much spot on, except for McLaren being competitive with Williams.

The only way to have that much perspective is to of had the T shirt

I didnt realise Mansell blew his own tyre in 86 or forgot to attach a wheelnut himself in 91... yes he was chasing in Japan but for Hunt to say he threw 3 championships away?? Hmmm...

@brendanbrown3100

2 ай бұрын

He did! Prost would have won in that Williams 86,87,91 and 92 - maybe even 85.

@eduardhenny1

2 ай бұрын

Mansell is overrated, indeed. Good driver but no prost

@ClassicFormulaOne1

2 ай бұрын

You never lose a championship in 1 race. It's the whole season.

@ClassicFormulaOne1

2 ай бұрын

​@@brendanbrown3100 85 certainly not, the 85 McLaren was better. 91 Williams was quite unreliable but certainly very fast.

@brendanbrown3100

2 ай бұрын

@@ClassicFormulaOne1 Prost was very good at mechanical sympathy.

I'm unashamedly biased but it would have been a travesty if Mansell had never become World Champion.

Did they do something similar for the 93 season?

Miss their commentary but Hunt is plain wrong saying Mansell threw away 3 championships. 86 his tyre blew. 87 he missed last two races and 91, Canada gearbox broke, electrics in Spa while leading, Portugal wheel fell off while leading. So three wins due to car. The only two races he performed badly were Mexico 91. Second. Behind Patrese and you could argue going off at Suzuka 91 but he was pushing Senna like mad. Blamed a long brake pedal. It was an epic season though. Last time a V12 won the championship.

@seanh1492

2 ай бұрын

Hmm. In Mexico 86 he somehow didn't select first gear and drive away from the start, and he made an impetuous move in Brazil which cost him a likely win. In 87 he tried to pass Senna on the outside at Spa and ended his race even though Senna was on the kerbs trying to avoid him - another lost win, and of course he ended his campaign with that huge crash at Suzuka. In 91 he threw it off in Japan in a completely unforced error, and wasn't that the year he accidentally shut his car off on the last lap and handed it to Piquet? Of course you can play this narrative game forever - the misfortunes and unreliability you cite did happen and you can pretend they're the only reasons he failed, but unreliability and misfortunes were endemic in that period and were happening to all the drivers. Big picture, I think Hunt is exactly right - in 86, 87 and 91 Mansell had the outright best car on the grid and threw it away either through errors or squabbling with Piquet to let other drivers steal the WDC from him. It took FW14B - arguably the most dominant F1 car of all time, before he could get his single WDC.

@hmdwgf

Ай бұрын

At Canada 91 he was waving to the crowd and let the engine revs drop too low and stalled it.

@user-ez3sj8hm8i

Ай бұрын

@@hmdwgfyes, you’re right

Hard to believe hunt isnlike 44 here

10:31 did he just say Prost was at Ligier?? Can someone explain this to me please?

@yashparanjape5211

Ай бұрын

Yes Prost was testing the ligier presea

@AdamTheMan1993

Ай бұрын

Alain Prost was gonna be one of the 2 Ligier drivers in 1992 but decided to take a sabbatical instead

❤👍

Red Bull gives you wind

Comments on McLaren matching Williams didn't age well at all, and very quickly!!

The Williams was leagues ahead, but nobody could have predicted Patrese would be so bad in 92

@redfruit1968

2 ай бұрын

Patrese wasn't bad? He didn't like active suspension, he didn't know how to handle active suspension, but he still won races and took comfortable second place in the championship. Nobody ever expected him to fight Mansell.

@trueultimagod2465

Ай бұрын

He did his job as a number 2 driver, won a race, 2nd in the standings with a young Michael Schumacher in his 1st full year 3rd and Ayrton Senna 4th. Yes the car was extremely dominant, but all you can ask is him bringing it home behind his teammate and keeping the other 2 juggernauts off that 2nd spot.