As a brit I'm looking forward to this. If there's one thing we have learnt from history is that we haven't learnt from our mistakes

@laurac9857

9 ай бұрын

I know right. I was always taught that's why they teach it in school but hey I guess not

@lgstar3363

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

David's having so much fun telling this story, it makes it even more interesting to listen to. Enthusiastic storytellers are the best. May the sailors rest in peace. They certainly deserve it after their traumatic ordeal.

Sounds like something I would love to read. Thanks Ana for this episode, most interesting and intriguing, please bring more of these type historical mystery crimes, I personally loved this, am sure I'm not the only one here in the community who adores history and this combo was definitely a treat.🎉❤

@sfbayareagirl

9 ай бұрын

Agree! Some really good, interesting either historical fiction or actual historical accounting are stories on plagues and epidemics or pandemics. Timely, too ; )

Hello Ana, David and True Crime Daily family! These older stories are absolutely fascinating. Thank goodness for historians. These crimes and stories would be lost if this valuable information wasn’t preserved. It is so interesting that these men, while in the midst of a horrible trauma, are so worried about be prosecuted. Turn a blind eye is something I have heard for years, I love knowing the origin. Have a wonderful weekend everybody.. My Husband is headed to Las Vegas in a few hours. The dogs and I have BIG plans while he is out of town. We are going to be cleaning out my closet and donating clothes. ❤

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Oh that closet cleaning - is never ending

This is a fantastic story! I agree it should be made into a movie 🍿 David, your passion for telling historical stories reminds me of my favourite History teacher 40 years ago!! 💖Hello Ms. Catchpole…if you’re watching! I’ll never forget you or your love for The Medieval 🏰 Era!! 🌹🤗❤

@cattymajiv

9 ай бұрын

If the movie of Killers Of The Flower Moon does as well as the book has, with rave reviews everywhere, then no doubt Martin Scorsese will make this book, The Wager, into a movie too. I'll bet he's already bought the film rights to it. 😉 ✌🏼

I've watched many episodes of your show Ana, and this is my absolute favorite! Thank you!!

@kentuckyleigh9623

9 ай бұрын

SAME!!!

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

So happy to hear that 🙏🏼

It must be incredible to hold documents like that in your hands!

I loved this episode! Anna you're amazing, I loved all your questions about the research process and working with the archive. I was so curious too and I was so happy you asked him everything I was wondering, it was so fascinating, I love your interest in the practice not just the output it really shines through in such an interesting conversation.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

He is so interesting

Ana, we missed you last week! The podcast wasn’t the same without you. 💗 Thank you for having David on the podcast to discuss this crazy case that I had never heard of. 💞

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Be back next week Need a little break!

@sngray11

9 ай бұрын

@@AnaGNews Have a wonderful time on your much needed break. 💞

Amazing story! Very cool. Thanks for sharing this guest and fascinating story with us, Ana!

Thank you Ana, David was such a wonderful guest, he's an amazing, passionate storyteller and I could have listened for hours. This is such a truly fascinating story, I've just ordered the book😁🙏

@kingayy9267

9 ай бұрын

Great adjective: passionate. Perfectly describes his storytelling. He's very engaging to listen to.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

He is a brilliant writer

@cattymajiv

9 ай бұрын

Whenever I've expressed anthing at all passionately, or merely even honestly, in any area of life, I've always been accused of exaggerating, and even being being histrionic. It's so depressing to live in a world that discourages honesty. We are forcing ourselves and others into a small box. All of the things that are touted as being progress and improvements are in reality just tools of imprisonment. Yet we blindly just go along with it. So depressing. But anyway, it does seem like a great book! I'd just love to read it! There's nothing better than a great dramatic story written passionately (within reason) by a person with good insight and a gift for words!

@kendramanuel968

9 ай бұрын

I’m about to right now

These are my favorite episodes that you do!! Wonderful guest!! So incredibly interesting and passionate!! Thank you for having David on to share his research.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

It’s fun to change things up

David is such an amazing storyteller, I enjoyed listening to him. Great show as always.

This is just fantastic! I love it’s still crime, but history. Two of my favorite topics! Great show, thank you.

I thought I was going to get bored and change the channel..but nope.. Amazing! I'm so happy to have learned so much. Great job!

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

So pleased you enjoyed it.

Listening to David was such a treat. I read Killers of the flower moon a couple years ago and fell in love with his writing.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

David is amazing

@cattymajiv

9 ай бұрын

The Killers Of The Flower Moon. The name of David's other book and movie sounded familiar, so I just went and read up on it a bit at Wikipedia. The story is a fascinating one, and the book got positively RAVE reviews from every single source of reviews! So I have got to read it, and to see the movie, which is due for release in Oct 2023. I will try to see the movie first though, since good books are next to impossible to adapt to film. There is just too much info to fit into a movie, even a long one, so the movie always feels disappointing if I've already read the book. But if I see the movie first, I can still thoroughly enjoy the book, especially if it's nonfiction, as this one is. But this is a different story he tells here. The fact that from his other book, Killers Of The Flower Moon, he is considerred a truly great writer makes me think that I've got to read this one too. I missed the name of it, but it must be mentioned at the start or end of the interview, or in the description area. Yes, it was there, in the description. It's called "The Wager, A Tale Of Shipwreck, Mutiny, and Murder." There's also a link to its page on Amazon, if we want to buy it.

Initially, I thought this was going to be about the whaling ship Essex, which inspired Moby Dick. Then I saw "mutiny". The Essex crew also resorted to cannibalism. This is a fascinating story and your guest is a fascinating storyteller.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

I love hearing is approach to research

This was so good!

I love Ana Garcia's style of sharing stories

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

@aidamontanez4294

9 ай бұрын

@@AnaGNews no..... thank you!

Great story; thank you, Ana and David! I just bought the audiobook and I will be listening to it on my walks. 🎧

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Oh how fun is that!

As a Brit, and a lover of History I loved this so much! When I was at school someone found a message in a bottle on the banks of a river in our city, the school sent it to London and it was verified for its age! It was all very exciting at the time!

Hey Ana welcome Back😍❤️

Ana Garcia…you’re my favourite 😍 🎉💖🤗🇦🇺👍🏻

Refreshing change! I prefer historic true crime. Feels less gruesome somehow.

@ScottJarvisMETALHEAD

9 ай бұрын

British history is probably more gruesome than anything the usa has experienced though

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

It does feel less gruesome.

Great show, Ana. How are you? I've been following your podcasts, and I love it!

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Excellent!

what an incredible storyteller and Ana does such a great job of interviewing and asking pertinent questions

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

I was so interested in what he had to say!

WHAT A STORYTELLER❤❤❤

Great episode. I loved your questions and the topic. Fascinating 😊

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

Absolutely excellent interview! This is complex, contextualized, and unique.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

This was a real treat! I agree, I could listen to his stories everyday. Felt like I was a kid at story time! 🤣 the fun about writing a story is that you can tell whatever ending you want, but when the story is based on truth, we rarely tell a happy ending. That’s life. ❤

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Totally - story time!

@ladyfreedomsrawnarratives

9 ай бұрын

@@AnaGNews it was so good! 😀

I love hearing stories from our early history! So amazing the tribulations that happened with adversity!

AMAZING thank you David and Ana. You had me spellbound

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

So happy to hear that!

@QueenNanaEva

9 ай бұрын

@@AnaGNews I love your weekly podcast but this week took the cake!

She's back :)

What a fascinating storyteller. I ordered the book this morning,

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

How fun!

I loved this episode. Keep bringing him back, please!

Fascinating! Please do more historical pieces. I loved it and yes, I could listen to his stories all day too.

ana, your questions made this even more enjoyable! ive heard about this story many times, but this was extra interesting!!! thanks to the both of you!

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Thank you - I just can’t wrap my head around how you build a story from bits and pieces!

This was absolutely awesome

Such a fascinating story.

I love old history this episode was great

The story of the Batavia is a gruesome one also.

David was a great guest! I felt like i was back in college listening to one of my English professors speak.

Great interview.

Hi Ana ✌

@kathrynbillinghurst188

9 ай бұрын

“Hi Ana” Translate to English?? 🫢😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Edit …3 hours later… The sign is now gone 🤔

Best episode.

Fascinating story!

Killers of the Flower moon is an amazing fascinating book. Wonderful work! I can't wait to see the movie adaptation. I hope this new story makes it on the big screen one day too. Looking forward to reading the book!!!

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

I can totally see this as a movie

Your best, Ana.

I can't wait to read this book and see the movie. He was a very interesting guest!

Can’t wait to read the book!

I agree- this should be a movie. But I’d be HELLA PISSED if this gentleman was NOT hired to be the producer and directors right hand man to MAKE SURE that this is 100% completely historically accurate. That’s one of the things that makes this so insanely interesting. If it turned into half fiction half non fiction I’d be horribly mad.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. David is so high profile, one would think he should have a say!

@kentuckyleigh9623

7 ай бұрын

Well he’s obviously VERY very knowledgeable of the facts when it comes to this event or events in history! If it was a movie it wouldn’t NEED embellishments at all. Somebody/s would need to remain involved to keep this factually accurate! Oh how crazy of a movie this would be!! 😍😍😍

Omg 😳🤯 HOW COOL is this!! This is flipping fascinating!!! I am glued to the phone! This guy is awesome! And where did he go to look at these documents I’m sooooooo interested?? I’d give anything to look at them. Way to go Anna I’d LOVE to see more of this!!! 🚨🚨🚨

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

We love to hear that

@Ghost80

9 ай бұрын

He got the documents from museums in England. If you ever go to London, Scotland Yard has its own crime museum. It would be interesting for true crime fans, especially those interested in historical true crimes.

I remember watching Anna Garcia on the news as younger person. So cool to see her hosting a true crime show.

@stephanielloyd4053

9 ай бұрын

I love Anna. I only know her from this podcast which I've been watching for years!

Great episode! Thank you Ana and David ☮️🍃

yes yes yes, i could listen to David all day long, tell me a story

Incredible, being the one to handle and putting the story ...I cannot wait for the movie!!!❤❤❤Thank you for this information...it was truly enjoyed...

This podcast was so informative and interesting! I can't wait to read the book!

I just bought the book last week! I haven't started it yet. I can't wait!

What a story! And a great story teller. ❤

funny thing, I was listening to the Radio - Sept 28th the TIFF festival just wrapped up and they were praising the efforts of Martin Scoresse and the actors involved regarding THIS VERY STORY - Killers of the Flower Moon - wowsers what a coincidence. Now I will have to definately see this movie. thanks Ana and David - great podcast today loved it!!!

I am an archaeologist but not in that part of the world. This is one of the most interesting things I have ever heard! I am going to get this book because who knows when the movie will come out or when it will get to this part of the world where I live, where we don't even have a movie theater close by anyway. I guess I would have to go into Mexico City. This man is a fascinating story teller and so I can only imagine how much more great his book is going to be! Please excuse my English, it's been a long time since I have used it.

Definitely will be getting the book The Wager 🎉

You don’t know, what you think you know. Remember that, and it’ll help keep your mind open. Been patiently waiting for the movie to come❤❤❤❤ Definitely need more stories and definitely more reading

Hi Anna! Long time listener and love the TCD Podcast every Friday. This was such an engaging one and had me hooked from the very beginning. Also just wanted to say- I am marrying my best friend this Sunday! I am so excited (even if it'll be raining).

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

So happy to hear that - it was different topic for us and David was game!

Amazing! ❤️

Shades of Triangle of Sadness! lol. This sounds absolutely fascinating. Can't wait to read.

This was really interesting! All done.

Such an interesting story and podcast! Thanks to you both.

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

“ is it a sin to want to live?”

this has been very fascinating, I really find this podcast soooo very interesting, eye opening and this gentleman has been quite pleasantly interesting to listen to...scuttlebutt...pipedown...under the weather...(like this one) but turn a blind eye ( telescope on blind eye). love this!!! great job you two!!!

Definitely an amazing book. Dion Graham Audible is fantastic.

HISTORY = His Story

The name of David's other book and movie sounded familiar, so I just went and read up on it a bit at Wikipedia. The story in "The Killers Of The Flower Moon" is a fascinating one, and the book got positively RAVE reviews from every single source of reviews! So I have got to read it, and to see the movie, which is due for release in Oct 2023, and made by Martin Scorcese. I will try to see the movie first though, since good books are next to impossible to adapt to film. There is just too much info to fit into a movie, even a long one, so the movie always feels disappointing if I've already read the book. But if I see the movie first, I can still thoroughly enjoy the book, especially if it's nonfiction, as this one is. But this is a different story he tells here. The fact that from his other book he is considerred a truly great writer makes me think that I've got to read this one too. I missed the name of it, but it must be mentioned at the start or end of the interview, or in the description area. Yes it was there. It's called "The Wager, A Tale Of Shipwreck, Mutiny, and Murder." There's also a link to its page on Amazon, if we want to buy it.

My great x 6 uncle was Robert Edwards who was gifted 77 acres of land in America by the Queen which is now known as Manhattan, he allowed the Catholic Church to lease the land for 99yrs and we spent many years & lots of money back in the 60’s to reclaim the rental money paid to the catholic church after the 99yr lease was up, which was kept in chancery to the rightful owners which is our family, Uncle Robert left the land to our family in his will & we have the Will/full family tree/family bible etc we tried again in the 90’s but it’s so much money the church nor America will give it back…you can look it all up, it’s all completely true and many many programs have been made about it…we laugh about it now..when we see Manhattan we say ‘We own that’ 😂 it’s a interesting story and I’m sure there are many similar out there 😊

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

What a story

And @anagarcia I think you are enjoying this just as much because you’re face looks just like mine!! 😂 You are cracking me up! You are just as fascinated as I think the audience is! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

David is so interesting!

I love your enthusiasm Ana and I love your trophy room 🙂are they all yours?

So interesting that a similar story happened with another ship from the British East Indian Comapny. I had to double check on the name of the ship, be ause the story was so similar. That Chapter made an awesome podcast about it - the mutiny on the Batavia.

It looks like a shipwreck lol good one 😹

Coolest episode ever

Aw man! I'm looking forward to the movie. 2 of the best combs in Hollywood, no wokeness just epic and to the ages! Hopefully a movie worth actually going to watch!

I believe that they saw the survival of these men as being more of an achievement than was thought, hence the lack of punishment. Not just to save face on the mutiny….. always trying to make the British sound bad in some way.

Wow!! A movie is being made about it? What will be name of the movie?

NOOOOOOO! He gave away the ending.

@Ghost80

9 ай бұрын

I think the book would still be worth reading. He is only giving us a gloss over. The details in the book will be amazing no doubt. Especially if he is a good a writer as people say. He writes it as a story rather than a history textbook so the characters will be so interesting.

Leonardo DeCaprio, gets my vote for playing the movie role of Boakley 🤔👍🏻

No fishing poles back then I guess?

Apparently he has never watched The Little Mermaid 🧜‍♀️ 😅

Ana ♥♥♥♥♥🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹👑👑👑👑👑 David ♥♥♥♥♥🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

I just had a thought relating to the part about the State preferring to pretend like some war crimes don't happen: maybe that's eh same thinking at play with Wikileaks releasing US helicopter footage of them killing unarmed civilians & journalists? Maybe that's why Julian has spent more than a decade in a kind of "limbo"? Maybe that's what the State wants- because bringing him to trial would allow people to see the nature of the crimes he exposed? Loved this episode anyway- was awesome 😎

FIRST I MEAN SECOND

@kathrynbillinghurst188

9 ай бұрын

✌️😂🤣

@ivydickson7596

9 ай бұрын

You are first.

This is not old!!! I am Danish!

Let’s see how true the tale is as many have studied the culture of the periods and know accurate information and facts. Many know “Hollywood” fiction tales only.

But DiCaprio 🙄I mean he’s an excellent actor but it will ruin the titanic movie for me

True Crime series got boring, the genre need massive improvements.

@kathrynbillinghurst188

9 ай бұрын

😢 🤦‍♀️

*This seems like a great episode* 😁

😅

Ana, thanks so much for giving us a treat this week!!! David was very informative and you asked the right questions at the perfect times to give us even more details!!! 🫶🤯🌊🏴‍☠️👍

@AnaGNews

9 ай бұрын

David is fascinating!