The Italian name checks out. In Germany, we call a clove hitch "Mastwurf" which means a hitch tied on a mast on a boat. The Italian hitch is called "Halbmastwurf" (half a clove hitch) or HMS for short. It's also where the name for the carabiner type comes from (I believe it was originally coined in Austria) that accommodates the extra space for a hitch.

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Excellent, thanks for sharing!

@vbregier

3 ай бұрын

And same in french ! Clove hitch = nœud de cabestan (litteraly : capstan knot), often shortened as cab’ Munter hitch = nœud de demi-cabestan (half capstan knot), often shortened as demi-cab’

@beardymike77

3 ай бұрын

To expand on the HMS bit, the s is short for Sicherung, so you would say Halb Mastwurf Sicherung Karabiner which means Half Hitch Belay Karabiner. The right tool for the job :)

@wetl2628

3 ай бұрын

In dutch it's a 'dubbele mastworp' and 'halve mastworp'. So the same.

@mastheadmike

3 ай бұрын

This is a snapshot of the beauty of the internet! I learned something and in so many languages. Love it.

yOOO. That guide mode munter. Nice!

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Handy one to know!

I've been trad climbing and multipitch trad for about 15yrs and love brushing up on my skills by watching and practicing your vids. Cheers JB

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like 'em!

Super munter definitely made me giggle a little bit

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

😂

Just to add: In german the munters/italian hitch is called HalbMastwurfSicherung (thats where the HMS comes from). The clove hitch is called Mastwurf.

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Good info! I have heard that, but couldn't bring myself to try and pronounce that mouthful!

From what ive seen, the super munter removes the rope twist too!

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Good info!

auto-locking variation i had not seen before, very cool

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

👊

Thanks for the video 😊

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Yes, halve mastworp in Dutch. Half a clove hitch…. That’s why the carabiners are called HMS, Halve Mastworp Something…..

@Kankudai69

3 ай бұрын

Just looked down. s S for sicherung…..

Not sure these are easy to answer in a comment, but: 1)when/why would you choose to use this method outside of emergency situations/back up in the UK? 2) as a part time climber it's always baffled me, if we're happy it's safe to use a prusik loop for all the things they are used for, why is it when it comes to abseiling it (almost) always has to be on the break rope rather than out in front of you? I do it myself, but only because I've been told to but without really knowing why.

@stephenbrooks1536

3 ай бұрын

I believe (sure I’ll be corrected if wrong) that on the brake strand the prussik only has to hold a fraction of the force it would out in front of the belay device therefore possibly safer and easier to release under load.

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Good questions! 1. fraction quicker than guide mode and allows for a simple swap to lowering, it's also pretty elbow friendly. 2. as Stephen says, we put it on the brake strand so that the belay device / Munter does most of the work, the Prusik is there to mimic our hands should we get knocked out or whatever. There are occasions I may put the Prusik on the load strand such as if I'm planning to abseil past a knot, but it's rare.

Why not a munter-mule-overhand to tie it off? Seems to be the standard over in the states, at least for rescue work and rigging. Your way seemed slightly faster I guess.

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

No reason, equally as good. I did actually include it but cut it out due to video length.

Would love to know some thinking around HMS choice.

A lot more than two people we would hope lol

What is the crag name

@JBMountainSkills

3 ай бұрын

Lion Rock, Fachwen.