"I wouldn't say it's alarming, I'd say it's exciting" Haha you can tell he's a linguist

@TeddyBland

5 жыл бұрын

bravetherainbow lol

@aronhallam6449

4 жыл бұрын

I also think because this dialect is looked down upon in certain circles they were told to keep the topic positive, mc gowman says exciting about 5 times

@jdb6026

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. 👌

@cymro6537

3 жыл бұрын

3:09 ' *Since the end of world war two ,many Cockney speakers have been leaving London* ' - yup, otherwise known as 'white flight' How (cough) ...''exciting''...

@bravetherainbow

3 жыл бұрын

@@cymro6537 there's a good bit by Stewart Lee on emigrants, you might like it www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iom1b

In the uk if you go 100 miles the regional accent has changed 5 times and the name of a bread roll has changed at least twice

@stuboy13

9 ай бұрын

😂 very true.

@WilliamSmith-mx6ze

14 күн бұрын

Its real name is, of course, a batch.

@whiggy6976

14 күн бұрын

@@WilliamSmith-mx6ze or a bun, cob, balm, teacake....

This is fascinating. I am from Kent and most UK people would say I sound cockney. Cockneys and some other people in Kent say I talk like a farmer. My son has the MLE accent which was unheard of around here until very recently.

@mildlydispleased3221

7 ай бұрын

Despite being quite affluent, many Kentonians speak in a typically lower-class white British accent.

@thomasblackwell6207

6 ай бұрын

I'm also from Kent but people keep asking me if I'm from east London for some reason

In Hackney in about 1994 I first heard the word 'innit'. Within a year, the word 'innit' could be heard after every other sentence everywhere and it hasn't stopped since, innit.

@marcusgirling

11 ай бұрын

You know when it’s bad when your nan says it on the phone

Charlie’s accent is modern, but his capacity for fifteen pies a day is wonderfully old fashioned.

@pseudoplotinus

Жыл бұрын

they say whales aren't native to english waters

This is fascinating. I’m watching from Kentucky, US. American southern accents are so clearly different versions of different accents from Britain. So interesting!

@mildlydispleased3221

7 ай бұрын

Fried Chicken.

In Portsmouth (UK) words with the 'OWN' sound, as in Town, Down, Brown, becomes- Tayne/Tain, Dain, Brain. Is this unique?

@danw1374

Жыл бұрын

No that's how people in Northampton speak as well, at least the older generation. They say "I'm gooin up tayn"

@tabascocat5102

Жыл бұрын

@@danw1374 Really? That's interesting, cheers

Well this answers my question of “why do all the young people on Doctor Who sound Jamaican” 😅

Allow me to make the following correction: in broad Cockney, ya wouldn't say "'E came fird", you'd say "'E COME fird."

@v00n2000

2 жыл бұрын

"the boy done great down the left wing."

@nigelnyoni8265

Жыл бұрын

true.

MLE is still evolving.

@catmadwoman6317

2 жыл бұрын

I hope it evolves right out completely.

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

It's strange because to me it's just people using both patwa and slang. Calling it a new dialect is a bit mad to me.

@JehRoniMo11

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngel2512 thank you lol, I'm Jamaican & have family on that side but I can't help but hear non Jamaicans bringing patois into their songs and speech all the time now & rub my head

@JehRoniMo11

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, & it should probably stop ✋ 🤣

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@JehRoniMo11 it depends on your age and where you grew up but in UK non-Jamaicans have been using patwa in music since the 90s. Look at Apache Indian from UK or Snow from Toronto. And you have white yaardies. Check out UK hip hop. We had a thing called reggae-hip hop since the 80s. Even in our dnb we had one classic tune where an asian guy did patwa in the hook. We have white reggae singers. It's normal here tbh. It's like someone saying they're scratching their head after seeing white rappers or r&b singers when this isnt new. Some girl was on KZread literally saying Jesy Nelson was a new thing to see a white chivk in r&b. I guess it depends how much you follow music and maybe because in UK we were closer to our Jamaican influences than Americans are.

I had thought I was going mad. Glad there's a name for it.

@Meshuggapeth

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Housden yeah I was wondering why londoners sound like foreign retards

@crudephoenix

3 жыл бұрын

@@Meshuggapeth chill the fuck out

@lonelittlejerry917

3 жыл бұрын

@Ibrahim Mohamed based

@danw1374

2 жыл бұрын

@Ibrahim Mohamed Is it fuck

@2trappy2

2 жыл бұрын

@Ibrahim Mohamed it’s not even Jafaican I hate when people say that like it’s got so many influences from other places like Arabic, African languages, Portuguese etc

I typed in MLE accent thinking "I hope I find a decent video" and ended up finding the perfect video.

Interesting thing is that during the time of Ali G, most people would assume that this is only a dialect for people of color rather than "white" English people, and would criticize white English people for using the dialect as "fakers" or trying to be cool to fit in. In fact Ali G played on that theme a lot with jokes like "is it cos i is black?". But now it seems like most people have accepted that this has just become the default dialect for areas of london that used to speak mostly Cockney.

My grandma was from hackney but she sounded more cockney like Alan Sugar

@v00n2000

2 жыл бұрын

Alan Sugar is from Hackney. So am I, and it's changed beyond all recognition in the past 60 years.

@v00n2000

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Alan Sugar is East End Jewish, like Max Bygraves, subtle difference.

when he;s like "innit"

Cockney is not at threat, some of us younger generation in London do still speak it. Also cockney is popular in Kent and Essex

@lucask841

Жыл бұрын

If only some of you speak it then it is, by definition at threat

@southlondonlad9144

Жыл бұрын

@@lucask841 no it's not threat, your comment is just an example of small mindedness. Just because some people talk different to you, doesn't mean they're wrong and your right

@southlondonlad9144

Жыл бұрын

@@lucask841 I have to correct you, our accent is not at threat, it's still widely spoken in areas other than yours

@croydonable

Жыл бұрын

1@@southlondonlad9144 i`m in my 50s , I speak with a traditonal London accent ( my family spoke cockney , that roll in the accent ! ) We are out of Stepney , i dont ,ive got a traditional South London accent ..........My kids from Croydon have a very different accent me and their mum ! She is out of Battersea but her old man was Trinidadian !

@southlondonlad9144

Жыл бұрын

@@croydonable when I say cockney, I really mean a traditional London accent that is spoken by mainly white working class people. Maybe I wasn't clear.

McGowan is a genius.

@louisee7339

2 жыл бұрын

He's good at accents and impression, not sure that amount to genius 😅

@nigelnyoni8265

Жыл бұрын

​@@louisee7339 that, and his appraisal of linguistic changes could be evidence of a keen intellect

@louisee7339

Жыл бұрын

@@nigelnyoni8265 I'm sure he's a very intelligent man but Einstein was a genius

Alister said towards the end, there is excitement around "the rise of MLE in London and Spread of Cockney to Kent" thats basically "white flight"

@20quid

3 жыл бұрын

White people speak MLE too.

@Cosford869

7 ай бұрын

​@@20quidonly because the whites have been immersed in blacks and Asian speech.

@danw1374

4 ай бұрын

​@20quid Yes I've heard them speak like that. You just adopt your accent from the people you grow up around.

language is always changing. old english to new english to the many accents to now mle.

Cockney in Ipswich too.

5:17 Jeremy Irons is not amused.

DAMN I WANNA WATCH THE SECOND SEGMENT THAT THEY TEASED WHO GOT A LINK FOR MAN

You can learn accents through memorisation its not that deep

This is how everyone speaks in London now.

Fascinating! I'm from East London but I can tell where about's someone in London is from by their accent

The key word on the loss of cockney to MLE of this clip is :' *exciting* '. ......yeah....................'course it is.....(cough)...........yeah......

@salb5610

2 жыл бұрын

Things will always change

@cymro6537

2 жыл бұрын

@@salb5610 Regarding the disappearance of cockney to 'Jaffacian', rather than describing its loss as 'exciting' ,the only adjective ending with an 'ing' to describe it would be :depress(ing)

@bosambo

2 жыл бұрын

@@cymro6537 LOL, cry some more 🤣

@cymro6537

2 жыл бұрын

@@bosambo Sorry ,I can barely understand you - your Jafaican accent is so strong🤭

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@cymro6537 only the people who want to speak it will. Why does that make you feel threatened? Majority still speak proper English and code switch where needed.

I don't like the sound but a fascinating video. Thanks for uploading.

Old friend here sister. Nice visiting to your home for long time ago.gd day from Philippines

People are conflating those who use some patwa and slang with sounding like Stormzy. Not all of us sound like grime emcees. Most people who use patwa and slang consider grime emcees to sound like chavs. I never called it MLE before yet that's how what I do is being defined. Yet people will assume I speak like Stormzy when I dont. Even if you look up Ocean Wisdom there are hip hop heads who themselves use slang and patwa will mock his accent because it's quite chavvy, albeit he has talent. I dont fancy being conflated with Stormzy so mi ago continue fi call it patwa and slang. Not sure I agree with linguists relabelling on this

@scatman8963

Жыл бұрын

sounds like you are just larping then

@DarkAngel2512

Жыл бұрын

@@scatman8963 ok. I understand larping to mean those who take social media antics into the real world. I dont understand the context you're using it in. Can you elaborate?

I wouldn't for a minute consider hiring anyone who spoke like that for a job (unless I guess it was to work the register at a jerk-chicken shop)

@EllaJay

2 ай бұрын

Would you hire someone with his mum's accent for a decent job?

as someone from hackney this is true, but not all of us some of us are cockney but w a slight of this

Who’s here from Mrs Evans’ English class

All those saying MLE makes people sounds stupid: watch some interviews with Daniel Kaluuya and tell me he sounds stupid. Point is: you can't change where you grow up and the accent you learn; it has nothing to do with intelligence.

@whyzen2081

5 жыл бұрын

You can, and people do all the time, particularly after moving to a different region, or even stepping up the socioeconomic ladder. My family moved from Carlisle to London in the 1950s, and worked hard to drop their northern accent, and to speak with an RP accent, which improved their job prospects and earning potential. I'm from London, and I know many former school friends that dropped "MLE" when they grew up and went into work/Uni. I'd suggest more people actively work to change their accent than you would think, for all sorts of reasons. In my experience, MLE is an accent that many school-age kids put on to fit in, or not stand out. Others do it because their idols speak like that, and it's "cool" to sound like you're a "badman" from "da streetz", even if you're pushing upper middle class and were raised in a normal family unit, in a detached house in leafy Surrey. I don't think it really matters what accent you were born with, but it does matter - and can have a very strong impression on people - if you talk like a chav (which is MLE in a nutshell, in my opinion). There's no advantage to glorifying an accent that celebrates a lack of elocution and a poor grasp of basic vocabulary.

@videosso1938

5 жыл бұрын

@me123 Well, I just looked up Daniel Kaluuya and yea, he really sounds stupid. He didn't seem stupid, what he said made sense. But it definitely sounded stupid. You are right about one thing though, it really has nothing to do with intelligence. Because some accents make you sound stupid no matter what. (MLE, scouse, brummie, cockney, etc.)

@MegaPianogenius

5 жыл бұрын

@@whyzen2081 well said old chap. A rather spiffing instruction if I may so kindly defer.

@ozmantheterrible9837

5 жыл бұрын

no one uses MLE in interviews

@SciSciToys

5 жыл бұрын

When he is interviewed by black he uses MLE and yeah he sound dumb, but when he was interviewed in the US or mainstream he changes and comes out of the Gansta MLE mode and sound more intelligent, not by much but we all do this, because we instinctively or should I say he knows that MLE is like gutter talk and so he he doesn't want to look 'dumb'

We need a citation for this episode lol

Captions could really use some help!!

Dappy the singer rapper is a true rep of MLE accent , listen to his interviews

@MamiYankeeMusic

3 жыл бұрын

good one!

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

And Dizzee Rascal

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

No he isnt

This is a jolly good video. Thanks mate.

Kids will eventually grow out of talking like that... the thick ones won't.

@MohamedAli-mb4dd

Жыл бұрын

did the thick ones grow out of cockney? or do intelligent people code-switch?

@wndmebdjsbdkendb

Жыл бұрын

no not really. an accent is an accent, we aren't speaking like this on purpose, its just the way we naturally speak🤷‍♀️

@smelly1060

10 ай бұрын

You wish bud

@smelly1060

10 ай бұрын

​@@MohamedAli-mb4ddexactly this akh

Dare ll be mle newsreeders on the telly soon innit bruv. Torkin wiv dat accent.

Personally, I think it's ashame. I'm of the last generation of white Londoners who speak with a strong cockney/London accent. I'm proud of it. I've always been around my own type of people and it's what I grew up with. Don't hate on people who still speak cockney in 2022, we do still exist

@fabiancalderon6729

Жыл бұрын

Not for long

@southlondonlad9144

Жыл бұрын

@@fabiancalderon6729 I disagree

@smelly1060

10 ай бұрын

Who the fuck is hating tho ¿

@benfisher1376

10 ай бұрын

​@@fabiancalderon6729 Exactly, East London is very different now. You're more likely to hear foreign languages to English, let alone a Cockney dialect.

thank you very much[nt]

I haven’t heard the cockney accent in London for over 20 years. It’s become ancient. In a way, that’s a good thing.

@southlondonlad9144

2 жыл бұрын

Why is it a good thing cockney has died out?

@sweetestaphrodite

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone with a brain agrees with you

@southlondonlad9144

2 жыл бұрын

@@sweetestaphrodite If you're talking to ultimate moralizer, I agree with you totally, if you're referring to me, nah

@sweetestaphrodite

2 жыл бұрын

@@southlondonlad9144 Nooo, I wasn’t saying that to you lol

@southlondonlad9144

2 жыл бұрын

@@sweetestaphrodite it gets a bit confusing on here sometimes

I much prefer the old classic cockney accent

@accept415

3 жыл бұрын

I don't

@thepersongaminghd7665

3 жыл бұрын

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@littleindierocker

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t be like that

@danw1374

2 жыл бұрын

Even cockney sounded different 80 years ago, it had more of an east anglian stretched vowel thing going on.

@v00n2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@danw1374 My grandad used to say houses was 'arzis', and brown was 'brahn'. Now it's 'ourziz' and 'brayen'. But that's just cockney, don't know about MLE this week.

The rising inflection in Australia pisses me off.

@misplacedkiwi9498

2 жыл бұрын

Every sentence? Is a question? Don’t you like it? Bladdy pom?

@danw1374

2 жыл бұрын

Americans tend to do that a lot I've noticed, the tone rises at the end of their sentences. As though they are seeking validation for what they've said.

@newbris

2 жыл бұрын

@@danw1374 It may have something to do with egalitarianism. Bin man as important as the PM ethos so clipped tones sound too demanding.

Watching Kidulthood, you will hear alot of MLEs there.

Props for not saying "Heitch".

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Slang means secret language. UK

Ello, Ackney, innit? Jolly good video!

Interesting.

Language is changing almost all the time. As London became more culturally diverse and people of different races/nationalities/etc were allowed to mix together, so were their languages and over time languages continually change, that includes the grammar, pronounciation and spelling. It's in the name. Multi Cultural London English. London is one of the most ethnically diverse places in the UK, hence it's spoken this way in parts of London. Of course there are many other factors that influence how people talk, this is just one of them. I'd be typing this all day otherwise. The Uk is made up of tons and tons of different accents and dialects, there is no "standard" for speech and trying to fight that change is a losing battle. How we spoke 100, 200, 300 years ago would be completely different to how we speak today. MLE might becoming poplar today, but it's sure to be altered or over taken by another dialect in the future. Thats just human nature. Try instead to consider language like a tree. For every new dialect that develops it starts a new branch, as every dialect had to have evolved from something. It's much easier to embrace that something that is always changing than try and force it to stay still or go back (not like that would work anyway).

@fabiancalderon6729

Жыл бұрын

Race mixing was a mistake

@-shayldn

7 ай бұрын

um@@fabiancalderon6729

Thank god for Kent and Essex.

@mattellis989

3 жыл бұрын

They've pinpointed Mick Jagger as a cockney!

@UltimateMoralizer

2 жыл бұрын

People in Kent and Essex actually sound more refined now. The cockney accent is almost as dead as the Cypriot dialect, haha.

@benfisher1376

10 ай бұрын

​@@UltimateMoralizer Kent and Essex 100 years ago or less would have had the southern England country burr accent. Like East anglia etc. The estuary accent is a result of modern expansion of London. When Cecil sharp was collecting folksongs in Essex in the 1900s it was a different place, more rustic and beautiful. Its become hideous since then, can't imagine Essex folk singing folksongs now😂

@patrickdixon7202

9 ай бұрын

@@UltimateMoralizerNo.

@L333gok

7 күн бұрын

You mean the 2 poorest Home Counties? 😂

To all the folks in the comment section deriding MLE as if it were the devolution of the English language, know that you are fighting a losing battle. It's an exercise in futility if ever there was one. This is how languages get shaped and evolve. You mock these youths for not speaking real English, which is completely laughable when you speak a Germanic tongue composed of primarily French words. Real English? Most of you wouldn't understand real, true, fully Germanic English if you heard it. But here's the thing: who's complaining about English being a Germanic tongue with mostly Romance vocabulary? No one. Not a single soul. For most of you, had I not just mentioned it in this post, you wouldn't even be aware of that fact. Point is: English has always been influenced by external and internal forces. You can't stop it, you can't keep it down, to actively seek to antagonise it will only fuel it more. You've but one ultimatum: either you embrace it or you just shake your head bitterly at it in staunch disapproval because you can't bring yourself to face the facts. Either way, MLE-speakers win. And to the MLE-speaker reading this: hold your head high, fam. Don't let all these sour, sorry naysayers keep you down. And when the next generation comes around and they start speaking their own accent, remember the naysayers and don't repeat their mistakes.

@theo2oo4

2 жыл бұрын

well said

@mackhudson1493

2 жыл бұрын

Tldr defend this crap on the guardian comments section

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

Can I be an "MLE"(I just call it patwa and slang) speaker and still find it cringe when people ham it up and go full chav and dont code switch when appropriate?

@southlondonlad9144

2 жыл бұрын

At the end of the day, I'm part of the last generation who speak cockney and as a white Londoner, I speak cockney, it's what I grew up with and it's how all my people speak

@ChrisRedfieldsbloodline

7 ай бұрын

So Mandarin is going to become the language of science and trade then?

"Are you a %$^&?" "Then why are you trying to sound like one?" - Tony Soprano

people in the comments being triggered by an accent. damn

2:59 - Alistair basically sounds exactly like harry kane.

Roadman voice innit?

@elpibe1924

2 жыл бұрын

ur wet

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

Roadman is the chav end of MLE. Most MLE users dont speak it to that degree.

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

No it's not it's an accent and dialect it doesnt relate to roadman

Guess that's what happens when you reintroduce an already mixed accent back into the pot.

MLE accent is the sexiest and cooler accent. Maybe its just sexy bc its cool

Thank you :-):-) Very funny, interesting and enriching :-):-)

From Cockney to Hackney

Thanks bruv

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I grew up in London. If my son spoke like this I would ground him. It makes the kid sound like an imbecile. If someone applied for a job with me speaking like this I would not employ them. Social Engineering.

@Espiritu_de_Obiwon

Жыл бұрын

Well, one needs not have an aversion for an accent that hundreds of thousands have. I'm sure back when you were a child, your seniors would raise eyebrows about certain unfamiliar phrases and new pronunciations of words. As long as what one says is comprehensible, it's fine.

@SY-ok2dq

Жыл бұрын

I'm the child of immigrants, but not to the U.K., and a native speaker of English. And I am kind of disturbed by the dumbing down, and lazy grammar and pronunciation in accents/dialects like M.L.E., and the faux "urban", "gangsta" dialects adopted by white suburban middle class teens in America trying to be cool. The perpetuation of bad grammar, in particular. really irks me, considering that these people are native speakers. My parents had accents and mistakes of grammar - but they were fairly late learners of English. It wasn't due simply to lazy speech and poor education. It's because their first language (from East Asia) was so very different. But they studied. They tried to conjugate verbs etc. To hear native born Brits talking that way is a bit sad. Apparently grammar is a dirty word now.

@Espiritu_de_Obiwon

Жыл бұрын

@@SY-ok2dq The lack of grammar in a person's speech is not as frequent in written form. I spent quite a few years in Newham, the most deprived Borough in London, where MLE is more prominent. What I was in high school, I noticed that despite the verbal grammar being imperfect, when it came to writing, there wasn't as big an issue, unless you had learning difficulties or were a recent immigrant not to mention also that in formal settings, verbal grammar wasn't as bad. Despite all this, I really don't think perfect verbal grammar matters as long as you can understand what one is saying, and that the words one uses are used in the right context. London is a place with a higher population density of immigrants and so there's a mixture of different accents and so one tends to get used to it all, we can't simply go around rudely telling people off and correcting them for mere grammar mistakes, it would be taking the piss. Anyways, many other languages have much more incomprehensible dialects.

@SY-ok2dq

Жыл бұрын

@@Espiritu_de_Obiwon But they're native born, not older immigrants like say, my parents were. As the children born and raised there, who've passed through the local education system, they should make the effort to get some fairly basic grammar correct. I mean foreigners who learn English do. They make great efforts, so that they improve and don't get stuck at a really basic level, like conjugating basic verbs like "go", or "make." They also try to work on pronunciation and accent so that they can be understood without a lot of difficulty. So many people just won't bother if they encounter a foreigner speaking their language, whose pronunciation and grammar make it hard to understand. They won't put in the effort to stand there and try to decipher everything. You've got to make yourself understandable - not the other way around, where native speakers have to spend 10 minutes trying to understand a short sentence or two. The world just doesn't work like that. I sincerely hope that they write better than they speak. Most people do, regardless of the language. Written language serves a different purpose, and communicates in a different way. Can you imagine trying to read an email where there's no punctuation? No commas, no capital letters, no full stops, and no spacing? Then add some bad grammar, slang, and incorrect spelling, and you'll be tearing your hair out as you squint and try to decipher the message.

@Espiritu_de_Obiwon

Жыл бұрын

@@SY-ok2dq I understand what you mean grammar is super important in communication. But I will tell you that even in the MLE accent, most people can conjugate verbs properly and that's not really an issue, with only a few exceptions. What also tends to happen is that generally, majority of people that speak in MLE can also speak in standard clear london English, which is usually used in formal situations or if a person doesn't understand what is being said, which is actually pretty rare given most people can understand MLE anyway. It isn't all doom and gloom, MLE is just a natural, generational change of accent, most people in London speak standard London English anyway. I don't think it's as bad as the American gangsta accents, because I can't understand half the things they are saying to be honest, perhaps due to lack of familiarity with the accent, but I can say for certain foreigners are easier to understand than New York gangstas.

Thing is McGowan is a decent impersonator and can mirror very quickly what he hears but he cant even really do a classic cockney or thames estuary accent in my opinion at will. He sounds like a middle class person down the pub confidently trying to sound working class from the first minute, so this doesn't land to anyone even marginally familiar with it.

So if this is genuine, why did all the ethnic minories in London used to speak with a cockney accent?

@blackmore4

4 жыл бұрын

Jafaican is totally fake.

@Meshuggapeth

4 жыл бұрын

The CF Butcher because adapting to local customs used to be important. Now local customs adapt to foreigners

@denisdiderot6779

4 жыл бұрын

Reprehensible Meshuggah lool cockney also had some immigrant influences as well, this influence largely coming from Yiddish speaking migrants to London as well as Romani. The idea that cultural exchange is one way is the sort of thing only a muppet with no knowledge of history would say.

@clincpb8903

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing is genuine in UK

@TheSealOfTheRose

3 жыл бұрын

Because they were hard working and aspirational. Traits that are neither valued nor encouraged anymore.

I heard mle on the news today bleh

smashing

Sorry another part of our disappearing culture.call me old fashioned I’m not going to apologize for being English .

American here, I literally can’t hear any difference.

@DarkAngel2512

2 жыл бұрын

Big diff. Maybe you'd need to hear more of a transcript and see the diff vocab. MLE is mostly Jamaican and street slang and cockney is just very diff in accent. When I hear a black person use cockney is def stands out.

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

Mle is more relaxed and calm with some diffrent phrases and slangs cockney is more dragged

I sound more like this, even though I’m gonna white from east london

. Where are the greek influences?

@UsandEveryoneWeKnow

3 жыл бұрын

I'm half Greek and don't speak like that. This is the accent I dislike most, it's embarrassing.

@Purwapada

3 жыл бұрын

. @@UsandEveryoneWeKnow Yeh I agree. btw I learned a bit of ancient greek (koine) And it's much easier to hear the words than modern greek) just thought it was odd haha

@UsandEveryoneWeKnow

3 жыл бұрын

@@Purwapada I don't know any ancient Greek. But for sure if someone is speaking a really different language fast, it feels like every syllable must be a word and is impossible.

@Purwapada

3 жыл бұрын

. @@UsandEveryoneWeKnow yeh I think so too

@theo2oo4

2 жыл бұрын

@@UsandEveryoneWeKnow i’m greek too, but what they were saying is that MLE’s accent comes from the influence of a whole mix of cultures (including greek) it doesn’t mean all greeks talk like that, but it’s part of the collective influence.

It’s so fake it’s truly horrible. It’s almost like the kids and teenagers have to work at it…

in 10 years time people will be speaking PNG pidgin.

@Tony-1971

Жыл бұрын

Only the London spazmos.

INNIT

this is 100% NOT from everywhere, it is from kids of caribbean descent. you were made fun of for sounding like that unless you were from that background.

Wife, life and knife--becomes Waaf, Laaff & Knaaf

As usual, this comment section is an absolute completely unracist belter.

@fabiancalderon6729

Жыл бұрын

I would say it's exciting

LME makes my toes curl. Bring back beautiful rough diamond Cockney.

Nah waah aah min, init?

“Apples and stairs”?

@simonj48

4 жыл бұрын

go up in pears

@ashers.h756

3 жыл бұрын

Cockney rhyming slang for stairs

As an MLE speaker, you're going to pick up your accent through a prolonged exposure in a particular environment which can be influenced by different cultures. If you are not brought up on tea parties and tennis you are not going to sound like a royal aide bruv. It's not surprising that people can hate on an accent, as we've seen it before, especially if it is tied to a demographic that are demonized for some reason i.e. 'chav' and 'London youth'. I've heard of a recruiter rejecting an applicant who was well qualified because she had an Essex accent! Even the typical vibe of where you're from can impact the tone of your voice. RP sounds more rehearsed and elaborate whereas Cockney is more direct and blunt and MLE is more casual and less pretentious.

@billrobertjoe

Жыл бұрын

mle is the worst accent I've ever heard. you'd probably hate ny accent though cause you're british, slight southern accent.

@marcusgirling

11 ай бұрын

Luton is also mle not just in London but best but about mle not all sound the same depends what you grew up on and who hang round with

@Stringer13ell

10 ай бұрын

Your accent (which is repulsive by the way) has spread to other big cities. Its indicative of the colonisation we're enduring.

@smelly1060

10 ай бұрын

​@@billrobertjoengl I love the nyc accent...except staten Island

How to sound thick in one easy lesson . Innit.

@isaacthegoat1432

2 жыл бұрын

It's said all over England.

@ChrisRedfieldsbloodline

7 ай бұрын

@@isaacthegoat1432 Whole country's full of clods, innit? LMAO

Even singers move the mouth less

"Man's feeling dem peng tings blud, dis is da way real indigenous British mandem chat now innit

@isaacthegoat1432

2 жыл бұрын

Get over it.

@hc2155

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacthegoat1432 Man's Jafaken accent is on point alie? Man's a wannabe Kingston "yute" dese times.

@isaacthegoat1432

2 жыл бұрын

@@hc2155 No one calls it that.

@hc2155

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacthegoat1432 Fam, true say man's authentic Jafaken Kingston London waffle is for all the dumb yutes in da endz whose big man abandoned their mumzy- seen? Dere ain't nuttin between Cockney and Jafaken, real indigenous British mandem always chatted dis way.

@isaacthegoat1432

2 жыл бұрын

@@hc2155 You're most likely a posh white boy stop trying to speak like you're from ends.

Different types of accents and how they evolve are cool and fun to learn about for me. Too bad these racist idiots in the comments have to bitch and moan.

@harrybarker4370

Жыл бұрын

Everyone chats shit about Brummie and it ain’t racist. Soon as Londoners are upset it’s different init tho…

@kayanclarke5216

Жыл бұрын

Racists always find trifling nonsense to be angry about but the world passes them by regardless. No one is going to check how they speak based on some dumbass on KZread. Too bad for them. Maybe they can go crawl under a rock. They’re safer at home.

Best English accents (in my opinion ) West Country / Geordie . Worst = MLE and West Midlands

@tsa4594

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with the potter's accent? The West Midlands doesnt have a homogenised accent...

@joebees21

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking the West Midlands is an accent. So you're both uneducated and a sheep haha

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

Cry about it I speak mle and proud

@wolf-uu4ox

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robio_scorpio you sound insecure lol

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolf-uu4ox what are u even saying

Sad times

I hate mle. Sounds fake as hell

@Robio_scorpio

2 жыл бұрын

It isnt fake

@L333gok

7 күн бұрын

So working class and ugly. I can’t stand it

Sounds horrendous

I really don’t like this , they all sound like their try to sound gangsta ,

@wndmebdjsbdkendb

Жыл бұрын

gangsta?? its just our accent, how we naturally sound. we aren't trying to sound "gangsta"

@-shayldn

7 ай бұрын

mostly us black and asians sound like that naturally, aint our fault

Ah.. diversity enrichment.. just works in Disney's cartoons.

Chav accent

It's such an annoying accent, it seems any young person on radio 4 has this awful MLE sound. It makes me switch over

I'm a linguist, and MLE is rad, and everyone commenting on this video fucking sucks. Language changes, it's inevitable, and the more communication happens in a concentrated urban area (e.g. London), and the more mixing there is from multiple languages and dialects and learners of English from all over the world (including majority white countries like Australia, for all you racists out there), the faster a language changes. It's human, and it's absolutely beautiful, and if you think otherwise then I think you're probably missing out on a lot of the great things in life. Sucks for you dude.

@liamgoodenough8947

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah because it is the working class accent of London and it happens to be the accent of those who live on the low end of the poverty chain and thus turn to crime. You're not pissed off at the language. You're pissed off at the people who use it. And to call every MLE speaker a criminal is just ridiculous.

@BeccaRhea33

6 жыл бұрын

So everyone who speaks MLE is a criminal? Well that’s a “university educated” comment if I ever heard one. :) Your hypocrisy would be comical if it didn’t highlight such a sad state of affairs in the world, particularly with regards to education and the dissemination of information. Please note that stereotyping entire populations based on their dialect/sociolect (which is innate and unconscious) is one of the many insidious mechanisms of systemic racism that keeps people from achieving what they otherwise would and could for society. So it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy: in writing people off as criminals based on how they talk (or look), you’re helping ensure they have no choice but to become just that!

@liamgoodenough8947

6 жыл бұрын

Also a little FYI. I grew up in a racially mixed area in London and my friends were varied in my friendship group - I spoke MLE for a significant period of my life. Now I'm doing my doctorate in the U.S. after studying at Oxbridge, so I don't think we can say all MLE speakers are uneducated criminals. The fact is: If you grow up in London and your friendship group is racially mixed, you will talk like this. That's just the way it is.

@WiggaMachiavelli

6 жыл бұрын

You raise an interesting point: perhaps the only way to protect "majority" White countries from corruption at the hands of lesser races is to restore them to being for Whites only. Good suggestion!

@liamgoodenough8947

6 жыл бұрын

WiggaMachiavelli or maybe we can veer away from this white superiority BS and just accept the fact we're All humans. Unless we are hell bent on not evolving as a human race and continuing down this fearful war-mongering path we call our world today

MLE was started as a piss take out of Asians by Ali G, 2 weeks after his movie came out everybody under the age of 10 started talking like "road men". I honestly thought MLE would die out with Ali G, never thought it would catch on and become the voice of a generation, especially considering it was basically a meme.

@purrbox7514

5 жыл бұрын

Phil Mitchel you never read the post properly did you. I said Ali G was created as a piss take out of Asians.

@myad4534

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t agree

@rfmerrill

3 жыл бұрын

If you think Sacha Baron Cohen intended to make fun of minorities you don't know him, lmao.

@TheSealOfTheRose

3 жыл бұрын

It just hangs around the 10-25 mark. They all grow out of it eventually.

@rankingtrevor

3 жыл бұрын

This accent didn't start with Baron Cohen parody character "Ali G" in 1999...you dummy. His character was basically mocking black british (and black american) urban speech. "MLE" accent was born out of traditional white working class cockney accents of London (mainly East end) mixing with Carribean influenced speech of 2nd and 3rd gen black brits. Its been around in an early form since the mid/late 1980s. Grime genre of urban music which evolved from UK Garage helped to spread this accent around London and the South East in the early 2000s.

@9:33 - It's actually "Apples and Pears" = "stairs". Not, "Apples and Stairs" = that don't mean nuffink. Fuck knows what that is? "Pears"? perhaps? - This is a fascinating little video. This is what makes the United Kingdom so interesting.

@thomasmclaughlin6413

4 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid neither of you are actually right - the phrase is just "apples" meaning "stairs". The way cockney rhyming slang works is that only the first half of the implied two-word phrase is ever said, with the unspoken second word rhyming with the plain english translation (i.e britney spears - beers, bubble bath - laugh). At no point would anyone speaking cockney rhyming slang actually say anything more than "apples" to mean "stairs" - they would simply say "am gaan up apples".

Sounds awful

I hate it, it's cringe. All those that speak it think they are gangsta when they're clearly not 🤦🏻‍♂️

I find this accent irritating, it just grates.

I hate accents and slangs. There should only be 3 English accents BBC, CNN and Professor Brian Cox. The rest is superfluous.