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@Roldycasual

Ай бұрын

I am having trouble buying tickets. I keep getting an error message

Protect Sam Harris at all cost

@tnew85

Ай бұрын

Amen

@delsinnisled9443

Ай бұрын

nah

@abdullahimusa9761

Ай бұрын

@@tnew85 amen to your non-existent god 🤣

@Chris-vg8ql

Ай бұрын

The man of pure reason and rationality. " Hunter Biden literally could have had corpses of children in his basement - i would have not cared". Sam Harris

@matthewellis2015

Ай бұрын

Yes, Sam is one of the greatest intellectuals of our time!

Jordan Peterson is not equipped to deal with an actual intellectual like Sam

@roccovergoglini7670

Ай бұрын

Came here to say that.

@MrRoundwound

Ай бұрын

Ya. Ok

Islam dies without lies ! 🤥🤥🤥

@charliehands5266

Ай бұрын

True for any religion

@abdullahimusa9761

Ай бұрын

has this become your creedal formula 😂

@kylemccormack1785

Ай бұрын

@@abdullahimusa9761 Yes, it has. We don't like dominating, conquering, Jew-r*ping death cults.

@Smalls2672

Ай бұрын

All religion does

@PrimitiveArchery6

Ай бұрын

​@@abdullahimusa9761 creedal, no. Factual, yes.

Jordan is not a very good apologist, as he is out of his area of expertise. Peterson also uses too much word salad.

@xenatron9056

Ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson has over exposed himself way beyond his expertise should allow. I get bored waiting for him to make his point and then it is usually an anti-climax.

@JeffreyBoles

Ай бұрын

I don't even think he IS truly an apologist. To my knowledge, he has never, ever confirmed whether or not he believes in the resurrection of Jesus. I think he just likes the debate and has been able to capitalize on it. He's just one of many philosophers but has a background in psychology. Sometimes he makes good points, sometimes he makes bad points, and sometimes he just fumbles it altogether and doesn't make a point. But an apologist? I don't think so.

@marshall9224

Ай бұрын

@@JeffreyBoles def an apologist to an extent, you see him consistently taking the side of the religious, in his Maps of Meaning series he expands on this.

@fukpoeslaw3613

Ай бұрын

Test1

Peterson doesn't listen; he just waits to interrupt.

@roxandroll7122

Ай бұрын

Wrong! He's mentally rehearsing that thing he does with his fingers (0:35 shows a very special move, only masters of word salads can pull that off without knotting their fingers). It's very complex, takes his whole brainpower to rehearse it mentally before executing it, so there's very little brain juice left to fuel his side of the argument. This might give people the impression that our good doctor is throwing out words at random but don't be fooled, he's DEEP.

@wonderlost2023

Ай бұрын

He defended the dolt know as Sam, who monopolized this clip..

I think religion is part of our organisational evolution. It had a function. A little of it is good, too much of it and it becomes a hindrance .

@christyadams9235

Ай бұрын

I think the first religion was just bedtime stories by ancient grandmother's to give human face to natural phenomena to make it less scary. Evolution wise, I think religion undermines evolution because it takes away female selective breeding. Indeed of men trying to get a female to choose then to reproduce with and babies born in mothers full of oxytocin and dopamine where religion turns women into broodmares without investment in their young who are born to mothers full of adrenaline and cortisol.

@polarbear4612

Ай бұрын

It may have served a purpose for social cohesion in smaller groups but in a multi billion people world it just creates divisions based on supernatural beliefs.

@im2randomghgh

Ай бұрын

If anything I think it's an expression of our organisational evolution rather than an actual part of it. I think it's also a demonstration of our human curiosity about big things but also the limits of that curiosity when the questions get too big for us to handle.

@TomNoles007

Ай бұрын

Really interesting points, all 3 above this, lots of food for thought. Thanks for sharing.

@christyadams9235

Ай бұрын

Religion perverted the bedtime stories our ancient grandmothers told the young ones about natural forces to give them a human face and make them less scary, there was someone in charge. When humans were invested collectively in the upbringing of youth, women were in charge. Women sexually selected our way up the evolutionary ladder while men worked in service to them in effort to be chosen for reproduction. Men worked hard to be the best version of themselves in the hope that a female would accept his sperm and care for his offspring. If a family unit was in the woods and a bear came along, the male would be required to die for survival of the offspring. She can continue to nurse and care for the infant and accept a new mate. Also why women and men sexually peak at different ages. Men are to work and not really be a part of later life so the earlier they could mature, the better so 20s are their chance of reproducing while women would peak in mid 30s allowing another generation of offspring and a really available number of males. Incels that would harm or jeopardize a female would be excluded or killed by other males of the group to ensure the safety of the only afterlife that existed at that time, a child. Females that are happy had babies that were in wombs full of oxytocin and dopamine as the son to be mothers were happy and provided for giving rise to successive generations that built up on human traits that were fostered into higher and higher levels of intelligence and sophistication. It took religion to hijack that process, removing the female will from the equation and using violence to perpetuate the males genes. The selection is based on the male with the female forced to reproduce through intimidation and suffering with babies born from wombs soaked in adrenaline and cortisol. Scientists have described a natural process occurring that is passing out the male Y as the continued level of male aggression against females is contrary to evolutionary processes.

❤🎉 ExMuslims 💯💪🔥

❤🎉 Without lies Islam dies 😢😮

@bluetoad2668

Ай бұрын

well, all religions die without lies but most religious people know that , they just believe the lies are justified.

Thank you for the having these 2 brilliant people discuss this matter!👏 Unlocked many doors in my mind

Jordan is not a Christian apologist.

Intelligent discussions are hard to beat to better understand our religious beliefs.

Sam seems to assume all humans share elements of his mindset, and want, are able or are limited to his worldview. That's not a valid assumption imo.

Hinduism shows the pathways to the best of what an individual is capable of

Even though I’m on the Christian side, I agree with the Atheist that religion is very often used for evil, particularly by those in power. That’s why we must use our God-given intellect to think, ask questions, use reason. I also agree that free speech is most important to correct bad dogma. I thank God for my freedom!!!

@brandonscorner9184

Ай бұрын

I am the same, I believe God is all powerful and people shouldn’t be punished based on religion in this life. Because it doesn’t allow them to grow and change, God can punish whoever is deserving in the next life. I don’t think any kind of theocracy is a great idea, even if I vote based on my own faith.

@matthewwade920

Ай бұрын

There wasn't much freedom of speech during the Spanish Inquisition, or during the Salem witch trials, or in the persecution of Galileo or in my Sunday School class when I asked too many questions. Freedom of speech goes hand in hand with the ability to question authority, which is at odds with almost any variation of religion one can think of.

@smmcb647

Ай бұрын

@@matthewwade920 Tyrant’s rule by force, but God ASK’s us to give Him our hearts. Many great men of God defied the authority of the time in order to do what is right and were punished for speaking out, see: Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Richard Wurmbrand, Watchman Nee. There are many more. Bad religion oppresses freedom. Good religion gives us freedom.

@brandonscorner9184

Ай бұрын

@@matthewwade920 it’s all relative to the time period and perspective. You named the Witch Trials, Inquisition and Galileo. But during those time periods, it didn’t matter if you were a citizen of a monarchy that was religious or not. You’re not likely to be guaranteed civil liberties. It’s a new concept to be able to criticize those in power and avoid accountability. And in the matter of reality, could all of histories achievements been done without religion, sure maybe. But were they, no. Without organized religion most ancient men wouldn’t have been literate, and in the case of Galileo. Without the Catholic Churches backing, Copernicus wouldn’t have been able to develop his initial theories. Much of the renaissance was possible to the wealth of the Catholic Church. And lastly, it’s a theme amongst western atheists when speaking about Islam you have to mention your problems with Christianity. But that’s mostly out of ignorance of what Islam actually says and is about. There’s a reason that religion can’t go through a reform to separate church and state.

@matthewwade920

Ай бұрын

@@smmcb647 This is one interpretation, but what is the punishment, by God, for disbelief in God? That's like "asking" someone to do a breathalyzer test and then jailing them (for eternity) if he refuses

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Sam v Jordan Peterson -- not a fair fight.

Jordan just wants to be smartest guy trying to give a religious argument and he doesn't care how stupid he sounds .

How come i didn’t know about this great thinker

This cultural content was good to the very last second. As matter of fact, it gets better as it progresses.

Whenever Peterson talks, i zone out.

Police be upon him.

Sam Harris is discussing for the sake of better understanding, Peterson arguing for the sake of taking a contrary point and getting exposure. two very different things.

What Sam can do, Mr Peterson can't do , exactly.

Peterson is complicating the talking point to infinity.

Human violence comes out of fear very simple. Unenlightened humans life is run by fear.

@Panhandlebluegrass1986

Ай бұрын

Naaa

Just like all the other 'Harems' that have been glamorously portrayed.

Jordan is great until he mentions Jesus and Religion… but I get it.

Let's be honest this is selective picking historic variety of facts and at the same time selective interpretation. This is exactly what many Islamic scholars also dose to prove their own points.

tribal them or us.. fear-driven mentality is what it is

Hello Jordan, religion pushes tribalism….

Christian apologists?

@delsinnisled9443

Ай бұрын

ikr...pangburn neocommunism

Can we please stop thinking jordan peterson is anything but a fraud or at best a man who pretends to be qualified in his position . Hes just wishy washy and doesnt actual try but cling to the small truth he can argue, especially when hes wrong. Circle talk to no where.

@xenatron9056

Ай бұрын

JP is banging on an annoying drum. It all becomes kind of pointless and watered. He isn't edgy cos he has a dark secret he can't deal with.

@FaithwalkerC37

Ай бұрын

@@xenatron9056 yeah i remember his trip over seas to be put in a coma so he could sleep through withdraws from whatever he was taking or using. Then he has the audacity to preach about weak men needing to be more stoic and strong.

@hollymiles2117

Ай бұрын

​Gross... Peterson is a giant intellectually speaking. You speak of his addiction to prescribed medication as if coming out of something like that would not make a person stronger. Your argument is flawed. I can see your humanity... It's lacking​@@FaithwalkerC37

@Panhandlebluegrass1986

Ай бұрын

You must be a liberal..Give him credit.

@FaithwalkerC37

Ай бұрын

@@Panhandlebluegrass1986 nope republican. Although calling me liberal is rather offensive but i wont hold it to ya. I dont like him cause hes a hypocrite and when you listen to what he says it blows my mind people dont see it, hes not saying anything of worth, just avoids the point and tries to redefine the conversation in a way he can avoid answering anything and just being ambiguous so he can take it back if it looks bad on him. But its ok to disagree, nothing wrong with that. But its all good take care.

​ The problem is that Mohammed told at is dead bed to Asha that he can feel God cutting his ear off meaning that he has fail God/Allah. Mohammed is no prophet like he thought and realize it at the end of his live .... He was a warlord. Why Muslim ignore this very important passage!? It literally his own way to say to NOT do like him.

@pa6lopicasso

Ай бұрын

What passage is that?

Abraham had slaves

So atheists that are dogmatic are the same as religions that are dogmatic…? I don’t think so Sam…

@daveboyd2271

Ай бұрын

Why not?

@michaelkohn883

Ай бұрын

@@daveboyd2271 So Sam’s dogma is the same as Christian dogma - nay…

@awake3083

24 күн бұрын

Do you understand what a dogma is?

@michaelkohn883

24 күн бұрын

@@awake3083 I understand that communist dogma - you know that pesky woke ideology that killed 100+ million in the 20th century - isnt the same as Christian dogma…

Do thinker men think they know all things

God allowed Moses's army in the Bible to take child sex slaves... 🤦‍♀️ But God is our basis for morality?

@axlfoley7795

Ай бұрын

Complete lie

@damienschwass9354

Ай бұрын

@@axlfoley7795no, not a complete lie at all. In Deuteronomy 20, Yahweh gives instructions on taking captives of the women and children after taking a city. In numbers 31, Moses tells his soldiers to do exactly that, in particular to save all the girls who have not slept with a man and to not spare the lives of those who have. God then gives further instructions on dividing the spoils of war, including these human captives. Are you going to defend the indefensible and make excuses for Yahweh’s implicit involvement?

@axlfoley7795

Ай бұрын

@@damienschwass9354 I’m not religious or defending anything. According to the story some outside people came in and perverted the people. Make them believe in multiple gods, sin and had sex with these women. The women according to the story seduced and made them sin against god. These are the women that were commanded to be killed. The ones who didn’t do the act and were virgins were spared. Again not defending just stating facts of the story

@awake3083

24 күн бұрын

@@axlfoley7795 I'm glad you have a brain! Damien seems to not have one and only wants to regurgitate debunked arguments.

Calling jordan peterson a christian apologist is one way to get clicks... but not from the right kind of people.

@chiefbeef9133

Ай бұрын

He is.

Sam Harris is just describing Hinduism which speaks of universal phenomenology of consciousness, psychological and other processes

@brandonscorner9184

Ай бұрын

Except Hinduism is also quite shitty because the idea of karmic reincarnation being the reason for the caste you’re born into. Easily leads to racism and discrimination.

Hinduism deals with consciousness, energy, psychology, ...

You liar

Peace be upon our beloved Prophet, Muhammad, his family and his companions.

@SirAlexanderful

Ай бұрын

He's dead

@kylemccormack1785

Ай бұрын

Peace be upon Aisha now that her sex-slaver is gone from this world. Aisha, be lifted up into heaven away from your rapist, who lives now forever in a pit of fire.

@SirAlexanderful

Ай бұрын

@@agatabozena1738 what you suggest? A sex slave? Is 9 years old too young?

@agatabozena1738

Ай бұрын

@@SirAlexanderful Sorry, that was for @abdullahimusa9761

@polarbear4612

Ай бұрын

You know he was a murderer, rapist and pedophile right? Why would he be beloved by any normal person?