MTX: Runescape's biggest Plague

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Microtransactions may well be the most discussed topic in the runescape community. They have been part of the game for well over a decade, and have changed into full fletched mechanical systems. Microtransactions aren’t the only thing that has changed over the years, as the the general view on these forms of obtaining revenue have changed as well.
- Timestamps -
0:00 Intro
0:28 Jagex has changed
1:44 Stonks
3:07 Players are getting used to them
5:14 The MTX timeline
17:34 Conclusion
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  • @byever1
    @byever12 ай бұрын

    There's one thing certain in life. Death and Jagex lying to you.

  • @Kranon

    @Kranon

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't forget biting more than they can chew (a.k.a Overpromising). It's kinda sad because I want to be excited about this game, the same way I did with Necro Release.

  • @coreylovescards

    @coreylovescards

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow you went so deep so fast!

  • @Darknimbus3

    @Darknimbus3

    2 ай бұрын

    Preach brother!!

  • @joelmulligan8213

    @joelmulligan8213

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro your dedication to the truth is both inspiring and hilarious, keep up the good work!

  • @ledderfayes

    @ledderfayes

    2 ай бұрын

    This dude got a Jagex lying pure on KZread lol

  • @what1fun1v3rs3
    @what1fun1v3rs32 ай бұрын

    Runemetrics should be free for members

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    They have mentioned if it was really widely available that would be a bunch of server load issues. Like when adding more Bank space.

  • @MrSaracuse

    @MrSaracuse

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 Surely they could at least have it client side, similar to how RuneLite does it.

  • @JGibbgg

    @JGibbgg

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 its only an issue because Jagex wont make money lmfao. Minecraft mod Refined Storage (that is also limited by java), you can store millions of items each with different metadata from different mods. When opening or searching it does not cause problems on a low-end machine running both the server and client. Limited Bankspace is a myth, its bad coding. "Server Load" is an excuse to keep metrics and bankspace behind MTX's, its that simple. Server population was up 800% during COVID and the game ran fine, not to mention more and more in-game content is being added and graphically updated, But an already existing feature being used wide spread would be the hair that broke the camles back....? rigggghtttt.

  • @X_Woods

    @X_Woods

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 Okay, they are a billion dollar company, and have a nearly non-existent player base in rs3. You can't tell me that this couldn't be pushed through, it's just an easy phrase to placate the player base, because they aren't allowed to take from any profit and make the game better. The profits are very strictly - profits.

  • @alexandersarcevic1729

    @alexandersarcevic1729

    2 ай бұрын

    @@X_Woods non existent player base? there are people everywhere I go...

  • @holo_val
    @holo_val2 ай бұрын

    Jagex calling Boeing up right now to "deal" with this man 😂

  • @Fightclub710
    @Fightclub7102 ай бұрын

    Just like Jaysus said, and i quote, "I love RS3, but Jagex doesn't".

  • @ProtoxxGaming

    @ProtoxxGaming

    2 ай бұрын

    A wise penguin indeed.

  • @Fightclub710

    @Fightclub710

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ProtoxxGaming true

  • @clancamper
    @clancamper2 ай бұрын

    As an OSRS player, this is the scariest fucking thing i have ever seen in my entire life. The levels of blatant predatory and dishonest behavior is absolute disgusting. It must be terrifying being a osrs dev and sitting in the same building as the people designing *this*

  • @soda366
    @soda3662 ай бұрын

    Need to bring minigames back to life. They could easily take mechanics from dungeoneering and scale "fake players" levels with the average levels of real players who are playing

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    This sooooo much

  • @user-ni7mb3kq8s

    @user-ni7mb3kq8s

    2 ай бұрын

    Most players don't engage in content unless it's pvm

  • @pottingsoil
    @pottingsoil2 ай бұрын

    No joke, I would buy a filter that would stop me from seeing / hearing everyone's cosmetics / overrides.

  • @CarterOW

    @CarterOW

    2 ай бұрын

    Client runtime modifications exist that do this. They just replace everyone in mtx with full Bronze.

  • @Rafael-oq9vu

    @Rafael-oq9vu

    2 ай бұрын

    THIS. the disgraceful cosmetics wrecked the atmosphere of the game.

  • @Avrahffxiv

    @Avrahffxiv

    2 ай бұрын

    yea that would be an item i would buy lol.

  • @urekmazino6800

    @urekmazino6800

    2 ай бұрын

    95% of them are ugly af to wish they never dropped cosmetics

  • @MAN6OMADNES
    @MAN6OMADNES2 ай бұрын

    IIRC, Jagex originally started selling bonds to combat bots selling gold on third party websites. I guess they figured that if their players wouldn't have to worry about scammers and violating the terms and conditions, all while reducing bots, it was worth it.

  • @checker297

    @checker297

    2 ай бұрын

    lets be real, someone said we are going to sell rsgp directly and the main problem was how do they sell this to the players without killing the game overnight. Bonds were the solution. Even osrs players willingly accepted bonds.

  • @rokka7188

    @rokka7188

    2 ай бұрын

    Jagex has lied multiple times, so I don't have a reason to believe them. It was a band-aid solution, because Jagex never banned the Gold Buyers themselves, up until very recently due to the Duel Arena fiasco. Which again, took years to actually address and for a lot of creators to spotlight that issue. Hackers and bots can use fraudulent credit cards through hacked accounts to buy bonds, to sell bonds to get players'/bot labor gold. The point of it being a gold sink doesn't work and you can't get 'free membership', due to fact it requires labor for another player or a bot. Overall it doesn't benefit the game at all, it was just means to profit and band-aid solution to an open pipe flow. Perhaps even worse, with that mentioned fraudulent credit card bond purchases, which they can give their bot farms, actually for 'free', membership.

  • @davidonquest8
    @davidonquest82 ай бұрын

    Ahhh, good ol Flute Salad. A man of culture.

  • @deejay5051
    @deejay50512 ай бұрын

    Cant believe a game iv played on and off since 2007 is pretty much coming to an end.

  • @me0101001000
    @me01010010002 ай бұрын

    I've recently found a hobby in valuing businesses and looking at company trends. I've seen an alarming trend where so-called "enshitification" ensues when private equity gets involved. If I recall correctly, Jagex is owned by a private equity firm. This would well explain layoffs and other cost-cutting measures as well as the "by any means necessary" to raise capital. This isn't Jagex's own will, but that of the firm that owns it. The PEF just wants to milk it for what it's worth and sell it to the next person, even if the product, in this case the game, has been milked dry. It happens with something as simple as a grocery store, and something as innovative as a tech startup. DISCLAIMER: I am not a business analyst, nor do I want to be. It's just something I do for fun.

  • @azurika_78

    @azurika_78

    2 ай бұрын

    big truth, you can see it EVERYWHERE you look now days, sometimes it a change to cheaper materials or ingredient, sometimes the packaging gets smaller or cheaper, sometime's the price is raised, or the customer service is outsourced to a far cheaper place across the world , you don't see it happening unless you watch out for it, but after a few cycles you are paying double for a much worse product with support that's almost impossible to work with. so what do you do? give up and buy another. exactly as planned.

  • @Weltshmerz

    @Weltshmerz

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@azurika_78Which is often why capitalism is looked at as evil

  • @belquerst
    @belquerst2 ай бұрын

    I started in 2003.. I don't care about MTX at all to be honest.. I enjoy the game.. but I absolutely HATE how much Runescape content is totally dead.. Minigames, Dungeoneering, 90% of skilling methods, most skilling methods are pretty bad money makers, etc.. also want to sell more skins? Make them look fancy.. 90% of cosmetics in Runescape are ugly AF.. I've played like every avaiable MMO in last 20 years and RS skins are one of the worst looking ever..

  • @mgt7473

    @mgt7473

    2 ай бұрын

    Have you ever played on an iron man? I created one a while back and played on it for a few months. And let me tell you; everything in the game is relevant. Stone spirits are good drops. lol. I’m not telling anyone to start an iron. Just saying things could be relevant. Lol

  • @ProfessionalGasLighting

    @ProfessionalGasLighting

    2 ай бұрын

    Have you tried osrs? There’s tons of new content. New spell books, new continents, new skilling mini games and bosses, and still getting updates. The community is huge

  • @ReKtOFFICIAL

    @ReKtOFFICIAL

    2 ай бұрын

    RS3 badly needs player character rework

  • @DevilDaRebel

    @DevilDaRebel

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mgt7473 Ironman mode will not make obsolete content relevant. Not minigames, etc etc nothing.

  • @killler240

    @killler240

    2 ай бұрын

    The problem with MTX is that it directly ruins skilling methods and prices. Areas with required people to interact become skipped content become dead etc

  • @PatChatGaming
    @PatChatGaming2 ай бұрын

    Holy shit I havent heard of NightmareRH in so many years

  • @ProtoxxGaming

    @ProtoxxGaming

    2 ай бұрын

    He still uploads, go and check his channel out :)

  • @Kranon

    @Kranon

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ProtoxxGaminglmao, collab when :p

  • @jayson9291

    @jayson9291

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah I want a collab with NightmareRH n Protoxx

  • @ixskill0z

    @ixskill0z

    2 ай бұрын

    Like 13 years lol

  • @dawasneserieuzepatatzunne
    @dawasneserieuzepatatzunne2 ай бұрын

    I came for the lip ASMR at the end, and I came, after the lip ASMR at the end.

  • @ProtoxxGaming

    @ProtoxxGaming

    2 ай бұрын

    Ayo 💀

  • @mickeywobbrock4019
    @mickeywobbrock40192 ай бұрын

    ive stopped playing, and i think im completely done with rs for once. 20 years of memories are now started to feel like shit.

  • @23Kerber
    @23Kerber2 ай бұрын

    On my main account.. I spent quite a bit on keys.. I just felt like I was so far behind everything and that it would take forever to catch up... ultimately I regret it. I ended up making another account in RS3 where the only keys I get are the ones I get from quests and dailies. I have focused more on enjoying the journey.. rather than getting to the end.

  • @HoboWally

    @HoboWally

    2 ай бұрын

    It's about the journey not the destination my friend

  • @videowatcher37
    @videowatcher372 ай бұрын

    that nightmarerh clip threw me back holyyy

  • @chrisjferro7808
    @chrisjferro78082 ай бұрын

    Thank you for never letting topics like this die out, and get swept under the rug as always, and always giving attention to it. I feel bad for the JMods that know and feel the same way, but have to turn a blind eye to all this, i hope people dont give the Mods negativity, not their fault really

  • @Tre_Vor194

    @Tre_Vor194

    2 ай бұрын

    great comment, the JMods are the real MVP's. You can see the pain in their faces when they do live interviews and are asked questions about RS3 being a cash cow.

  • @SeverinThirteen

    @SeverinThirteen

    2 ай бұрын

    The JMODS ARE to blame!!! Fuck em for not standing up and not doing this shit that their shareholders want!!!!!

  • @sabotagefate69

    @sabotagefate69

    2 ай бұрын

    These comments are the exact reason nothing will ever change. Celebrating cowardice

  • @chrisjferro7808

    @chrisjferro7808

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sabotagefate69oh trust me im the first to be critical of jagex but i give credit where its due when i can.

  • @Carl-Shef1989
    @Carl-Shef19892 ай бұрын

    Plot twist : Jagex pumps the price of bonds on G.E to get people to buy bonds to sell for GP....

  • @TN51234
    @TN512342 ай бұрын

    Microtransations are biggest plague for ALL games in modern times. Runescape isn't single that has problem with it, even games like WoW where you pay for monthly subscribtion, game and expansions STILL have microtransations.

  • @Discokrieg
    @Discokrieg2 ай бұрын

    We're listening to Papa Protoxx grow more unhinged every video and i'm here for it.

  • @sceneCatgirl
    @sceneCatgirl2 ай бұрын

    Shadow Rip TP animation is BiS (faster than other teles by 1 tick) and is freely available for completing some quests. Buying tele animations is literally pay2lose lol.

  • @JephPlaysGames
    @JephPlaysGames2 ай бұрын

    Then: "it would be awesome to get a free 3.5k xp per day" Now: "Gets over 100k free xp per day"

  • @ledderfayes

    @ledderfayes

    2 ай бұрын

    Per week seems more accurate

  • @JephPlaysGames

    @JephPlaysGames

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ledderfayes ~100k daily xp from daily challenges, then using 6 daily keys (premier membership + daily challenges) to get multiple prismatic stars and lamps.

  • @Zarudon000
    @Zarudon0002 ай бұрын

    Loved the flute salad as transition music, very fitting and silly sounding, lol

  • @Kunio
    @Kunio2 ай бұрын

    As someone who maintains their own membership by buying bonds on the GE, I really hate seeing so many promotions causing the skyrocketing in the prices of bonds.

  • @edventures9884
    @edventures98842 ай бұрын

    Micro transactions are taking over most games now :/

  • @Kranon

    @Kranon

    2 ай бұрын

    That's part of why the emulation scene exists. What's the point of a new game looking absolutely stunning, having really fluid gameplay and a killer ost made by legendary composers, if MTX is always there, as a constant reminder you're not free from monetization. Honestly, screw the industry.

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah why pay the game devs to make the game for you? Don't know why it's so difficult to just simply ignore it.

  • @JohnDoeTheTroll

    @JohnDoeTheTroll

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 EXACTLY!!!!! Something that has absolutely no effect on anyone but the person using it.

  • @urekmazino6800

    @urekmazino6800

    2 ай бұрын

    Thats why I went back to old school and deleted every game that has mtx.

  • @Ex-qg4cr

    @Ex-qg4cr

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@urekmazino6800 same, I refuse to play any games with MTX. It ruins the experience for me. I'll probably never come back to RS3, unless they really tone down or remove MTX.

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash2 ай бұрын

    ProTom is your new legalock ironman profile name for sure.😅🎉

  • @TheUniverseExists
    @TheUniverseExistsАй бұрын

    I bought a few treasure hunter keys back in 2017-2018 during a promotion or two and haven’t bought any since. I don’t regret it. Historically I always quit RuneScape because I’m putting in more time that I healthily should not less. I was in the mid game at the time and it really got me the much needed boost to do more fun quests and content and ultimately unlock priff and eventually the quest cape before that summer ended. You get your first job out of school and it’s easy to spend money like that. I had to put a stop to it when a third promotion came through and I realized I was tempted to buy it and if I did I would have spent more on keys than membership that year. I enjoy my RS3 account for maxscape and afk - and I still heavy utilize the free treasure hunter keys to get me there. But these days I often miss the grind and how everything used to be earned in RuneScape. I’ve gotten lucky with crypto and do well in my tech job so I can reasonably retire within 5 years so I’m looking forward to play OSRS more.

  • @lizaizcheesetown
    @lizaizcheesetown2 ай бұрын

    This LOL in the final is making me laugh :) And thx for your video.

  • @BOB-sy3qz
    @BOB-sy3qz2 ай бұрын

    Just wanna say, I am a rs3 player. I have gained 5,400 treasure hunter keys by doing runescapes "earn keys" offers. Offers like spend $80 on this 50% off manscaped deal and get 1,200 keys. Yes $80 for 1,200 keys. Other offers that cost $5 for 300+ keys. I have gained over 2 billion gp from treasure hunter using these keys and over 80m xp. I know that I am not playing "correctly" but life has been so busy I rarely get to play. My goal with these keys is to get my account to end game asap so I can get into bossing and easily complete quests, challenges, etc. Love you protoxx

  • @ExDeathevn
    @ExDeathevn2 ай бұрын

    Something very minor that was only briefly available after release of Bonds, was that players could get physical merch from their store using them. I picked up a t-shirt using this by snagging myself a/some (I forget the cost conversion) bonds from the GE at the time. Still have it as well. Think it kinda slipped off of most people's radar as I have heard nothing of it since.

  • @666narutomanfan
    @666narutomanfan2 ай бұрын

    The only one ive been negatively impacted by have been oddment nerfs. I used to be able to consistently earn at least 10 keys (2 from mems, 3 from challenges, and 5 from oddments store) during most of the year. They changed oddment payouts, now when you get something like a 7x prize in TH you can only convert the base prize to oddments, so no 7x oddments. That alone used to keep my oddment useage afloat, along with key sales in the oddment store. Now i use my oddments whenever i have enough to be able to buy another key, i have NEVER won one of those expensive TH override tokens or rares (like the assassins walk override), only "lucky" versions of ~t70 armour (also lucky chaotic weapons). The prizes dont feel balanced even for someone who consistently uses and once in a while splurges on buying keys. The ONLY consistent reward from TH are stars and xp lamps, and even then i feel like recent promotions have been giving less bxp and more xp lamps themselves. Maybe im imagining things?

  • @zlatanibrahimovic8329

    @zlatanibrahimovic8329

    2 ай бұрын

    The game died more than 5 years ago... why are you giving them money for keys?

  • @WizardOfCheese
    @WizardOfCheese2 ай бұрын

    0:40 long-term health of the game, HA, yeah, a lot of what they've been doing is short-term maximum profit type stuff.

  • @Kranon
    @Kranon2 ай бұрын

    Also no, those people who say "Lmao just play OSRS" you're not helping, you're just running away from the problem, you're still supporting Jagex by playing their games. If you're genuine about helping, if you really want to make a difference quit FOR GOOD, play on your emulators because the gaming industry is not any better than Jagex.

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    Emulators? As in Solo games? Not everyone gets on KZread or other social media so to be that impactful would be a near impossible task.

  • @heavendragonclan-hdc7018
    @heavendragonclan-hdc70182 ай бұрын

    17:34 Protoxx *high pitch* lol

  • @JoshDoingLinux
    @JoshDoingLinux2 ай бұрын

    I wish I had an ungodly sum of money to waste so I could buy my most beloved IP and then build a non-profit around it to just build a game by gamers and for gamers.

  • @Weltshmerz

    @Weltshmerz

    2 ай бұрын

    Sadly there are no other good wealthy gamers who would do this

  • @HoboWally
    @HoboWally2 ай бұрын

    I hate to say it, but seeing that old skill lamp xp allocation window (the one with the skill icons) was kind of nostalgic. However, in retrospect...the sheer AMOUNT of different MTX approaches Jagex has taken to this game is actually kind of mind-boggling when you see it in one video and something I havn't thought about to be honest. And what's with the JCoin?! Jagex had it's own personal bank with a debt/credit scheme, man that's insane!!!

  • @Yeahhahaha
    @Yeahhahaha2 ай бұрын

    This is why people should point and laugh at main accounts

  • @punavanisi9806
    @punavanisi98062 ай бұрын

    bank boosters should definitely be bought with gp and or unlocks with achievement diaries. Crazy how pricey they are.

  • @zeldapro18
    @zeldapro182 ай бұрын

    9:15 more blank space adds to the server load so that's why it's sold in Solomon's store. If the thousands of players all had 1800 plus Bank space that would be a huge problem.

  • @vladu__e

    @vladu__e

    2 ай бұрын

    Bank space costs gold on osrs

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vladu__e Bonds are buyable with GP for the Runecoins you need to buy bank boosters so it's effectively the same thing. Currently on OSRS for the same amount of space it cost about 1/3 as much as it does on RS3 for same about of expansions,9, or about the same for the same about of spaces(and IIRC the ratio of RS3 to OSRS gold is much higher than that. Like 12:1 or 10:1 RS3 to OSRS. Don't know gp earning rates for the average player though on OSRS.

  • @Arexmajen
    @ArexmajenАй бұрын

    Having lived through all this shit, the biggest thing I learned was their revenue charts from the past couple years. So you're telling me that they made over 3x more money in subscriptions in 2022 than they did off of MTX. On top of that, they didn't even need the money from MTX to push their numbers over 100m that year? Why the fuck has the RS3 community been pushed into so many breaking points over this!? I've literally went full on OSRS since Hero Pass, and have just now started thinking about playing some content with IRL friends to spend more time with them. (Especially with the lvl110 updates coming.) And you're telling me the very thing that's pissed me off in the game I've been playing for over 20 years now doesn't even make them that much money comparatively!?

  • @darkdonzaloog
    @darkdonzaloog2 ай бұрын

    Talking about the nerfs to TH specifically its all a move to make people purchase more spins. First action was lower oddments for converting, no extra for multiplies converted, able to buy 15 oddment keys per day. We've seen far more TH promos for sets that require x amount of keys often about 250keys. This is to drain players oddments so they can't keep buying oddment keys especially for xmas time with temptations long before then, probably some at halloween. Unstable proteans replaced regular on TH and at the time I guessed they'd just bring back blues for DXP so people swipe to get some to train skills. Seems thats true. Slayer wild cards also got the nerf. The ones we first had can be used on anything thats a slayer target and gives full xp for being used now replaced with limited specific slayer wild cards also giving less xp. Both still give on rate drops and like proteans this item is back on TH for the Time to train promo. Blue proteans and slayer wild cards won't be gone altogether they'll just be given as rewards in other places or used in TH promos in a limited setting like Time to train. Dummies probably next on the chopping block. If its like the proteans they'll be used faster and give % more xp but won't work on dxp probs.

  • @Rj_D956
    @Rj_D95618 күн бұрын

    Damn Protox just going all in on not trusting Jagex 😂😂 ay respect

  • @HawkAnomaly
    @HawkAnomalyАй бұрын

    Whats crazy is that its zero part of my rs3 playing!

  • @pascalwe1359
    @pascalwe13592 ай бұрын

    the oddments not scaling with multipliers anymore is the biggest scam they did so far

  • @ALsRuneScape
    @ALsRuneScapeАй бұрын

    Never bought a key or bond with real cash (to me it feels like unsatisfying and cheating to buy gold, rather achieve the wealth myself). Of course I’ve paid for membership on and off for years but am looking to end that by EOM and go on a Bond grinding journey.

  • @tonyhell234
    @tonyhell2342 ай бұрын

    ill be honest i have bought keys before but it was last year ? i think during the sale of jagex and they wanted to pump their numbers up so they did 400 keys for 20$ on mobile

  • @dtaggartofRTD
    @dtaggartofRTD2 ай бұрын

    We started down the slippery MTX slope and landed at the bottom wondering what the hell happened. How is RS3 monetized? All the ways! At this point, the only one I still support is bonds. On my normal accounts I don't even interact with TH. I close the button and go about my business. TH fundamentally bypasses the game at this point.

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh it's that easy? Just close the treasure hunter button?😂

  • @dtaggartofRTD

    @dtaggartofRTD

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 They're obsessive about engagement right now. give them a number they'll understand.

  • @ledderfayes
    @ledderfayes2 ай бұрын

    I maxed the battle pass right before it ended and got exiled guardian :>

  • @EtsaTwo
    @EtsaTwo2 ай бұрын

    Refer a friend came before SoF and allowed you to refer a friend and it rewarded xp boosts for the referrer and the referred. You could make an account and refer it. Like referring your own alts. So you could buy boosts

  • @thechinesevirus9628
    @thechinesevirus96282 ай бұрын

    Ive bought keys before for bonus xp just because i want the lvl but dont wanna spend all the time grinding it when i could be bossing

  • @Terrmarto
    @Terrmarto2 ай бұрын

    My level 3 skiller has gotten 120 slayer from free treasure hunter lamps …. when I realised how fucked that was I quit .

  • @Paintballguru92
    @Paintballguru922 ай бұрын

    Treasure hunter, dumbed down quests, bonds…. We’re not playing RuneScape, we’re playing candy crush.

  • @Benji__
    @Benji__2 ай бұрын

    When the duel arena was here I damn near bought max account just buying bonds for keys and get all lamps and dummies

  • @duyanhpham9227
    @duyanhpham92272 ай бұрын

    Managed to handily grind all the yak tracks by the end of their releaseweeks with only the two skips provided on the 50 tasks I honestly didn’t find them as bad as a lot of people complained early about but found the rewards of later yak tracks pretty becoming less and less And while the cosmetics on the hero pass I did like, on its release it was simply too grindy compared to yak track before they finally gave it a more reasonable progression.

  • @superleipoman
    @superleipoman2 ай бұрын

    Damn I didnt think that many people were buying keys, I thought it was just a few whales.

  • @martinwild1929
    @martinwild192917 күн бұрын

    The only thing i would pay for is completing quests, oh how i hate quests

  • @ianharcourtsmith
    @ianharcourtsmith2 ай бұрын

    Losing trust is a really bad state to be in, but knowing how to tell when someone is lying is useful. It is more the reason behind the lie that is impactful, and I hope it is a good one!

  • @Waltaere
    @Waltaere2 ай бұрын

    Protooxx 😃 and MTX=🤑

  • @Angel_kun0
    @Angel_kun02 ай бұрын

    i would Like to Add : By not thinking of Bond Ingame Prices, they are killing the Playerbase aswel. I dont think that Regular F2p player can have enough patience to grind towards a bond, which currently is around 120m gp. and for a Lower Skill member it is a Full time job to try to Upkeep a Membership with those prices.. and eventually they Feel it as a chore to Grind the Bonds to be a member and not find any fun in the game and leave.

  • @dannymusicdr

    @dannymusicdr

    2 ай бұрын

    I have seen these kinds of comments and I wish a youtuber touched on the following: Is the point of bonds really for the f2p player? Or to reward 1. The one who purchases it to get gp and 2. The veterans or people with good cashstacks. I don't really think bonds should be catered to the f2p or early member, just kills the sense of paying for membership entirely, which is (or was and should have continued to be) the main income of Jagex. Idk that's how I see it, doesn't make sense 7 dollars for 10-20m when RWT gives you a whole lot more. Now it makes a lot more sense to buy bonds for gp.

  • @jasonvors1922

    @jasonvors1922

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@dannymusicdrThe pure lack of content and being put on the back burner while os gets the best possible treatment even though it is full of cry babies and bots.

  • @dannymusicdr

    @dannymusicdr

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jasonvors1922 I agree, but for what its worth, old school bonds are alltime high as well...

  • @jasonvors1922

    @jasonvors1922

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dannymusicdr Yup and it is sad since they basically push bot culture just for revenue, Thousands of bots made than take hundreds of thousands of bonds out of the game to feed the membership in bulk there goes bond prices to well past 20m by the end of the year.

  • @jasonvors1922

    @jasonvors1922

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dannymusicdr By the end of the year bonds in old school will be beyond 20m

  • @janminator232
    @janminator2322 ай бұрын

    As an osrs player who just started playing rs3 a few days ago my inner gambler got the better of me. I like them agility boot things tho passive xp yeh

  • @joshcanady525
    @joshcanady5252 ай бұрын

    Jagex cant pay their shareholders with integrity. They dont even care that MTX is contributing to the demise of the game.

  • @MikeBoomie

    @MikeBoomie

    2 ай бұрын

    Their stock isn’t even publicly available. Shut the fuck up about shit you have no knowledge of.

  • @aero1000
    @aero10009 күн бұрын

    wait 1.1 B? how is Jagex worth that much? Is it about the IP rights so they can make a new version game with great potential?

  • @bjorn9087
    @bjorn90872 ай бұрын

    i would feel so bad as dev for rs3, imagine creating a skilling method only for mtx coming around the corner with another op promo for years its just been, save up proteans and bxp and wait for dxp, dont know what to say anymore

  • @Thecelestial1
    @Thecelestial12 ай бұрын

    Man I haven't played in close to two years and its sad to see the game that I spent so much time on decline into something so predatory.

  • @larson18023
    @larson180232 ай бұрын

    This is the main reason I quit rs3 a few years ago and man it seems to have gotten so much worse

  • @rszircon9164
    @rszircon91642 ай бұрын

    Luckly for me, after selling my first Hazelmere ring, I bought 20 bonds for next Gold Premier 2025

  • @TheTundraTerror
    @TheTundraTerror2 ай бұрын

    130m?!

  • @SixDeadMice
    @SixDeadMiceАй бұрын

    wow bonds are 130m now? i'll skip returning if it's that messed up rn.

  • @Goldenblade14
    @Goldenblade142 ай бұрын

    Yeah, this perfectly summed up why i stopped playing the game. The few aspects of MTX i did enjoy (bonds when they were less than 15m each from the GE, twitch prime free membership and items) were pretty much stripped from us and all thats left are the disgustingly profitable ones.

  • @daveburrows9876

    @daveburrows9876

    2 ай бұрын

    Funny. You stopped playing the game, but you still participate in the comments that content creators make about the game. That's kind of a head scratcher, dude. When I've quit playing a game, that game's content is no longer of any interest to me. Maybe you aren't able not to gamble any more, and that's a very different issue, isn't it.

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@daveburrows9876playing the content in watching content about it or completely two different things. It doesn't make sense. So you're saying you do everything that you watch on youtube.

  • @urekmazino6800

    @urekmazino6800

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@daveburrows9876what a foolish comment

  • @daveburrows9876

    @daveburrows9876

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeldapro18 I can't tell if you're drunk or if you always babble like this.

  • @zeldapro18

    @zeldapro18

    2 ай бұрын

    @@daveburrows9876 I think you are the drunk person, you don't understand english? Just because you watch something doesn't mean you're involved with its subject personally.

  • @ChunkYony
    @ChunkYony2 ай бұрын

    Wow... Also what's up with the frog 🐸 noises? 🤔

  • @morrigansshroud9091
    @morrigansshroud90912 ай бұрын

    Weird quesiton protoxx, but i'm a enthusiastic person when it comes to making videos especially about mechanics of the game or big tips/tricks and like to create content I've tried making a video before on one of my other youtube accounts and tbh i feel unmotivated and unsettled due to how much hate jagex is getting Do you personally think in your wholehearted opinion, is it worth starting from the beginning to content create for Runescape at this current point in time?

  • @ProtoxxGaming

    @ProtoxxGaming

    2 ай бұрын

    I think there's an opportunity to grow now that a bunch of creators left for OSRS tbh :)

  • @joshsantoro5153
    @joshsantoro51532 ай бұрын

    I watched another video previously and basically they had to start selling bonds and putting in MTX to sort out the RWT problem. As many people know, credit card companies were threatening to not support jagex and Runescape through membership payments anymore due to people complaining about getting their money stolen-due to RWT, so Jagex removed the wilderness and free trade at the cost of upset to the players, but then brought it back. They then had to make a decision of let RWT's kill the game, or bring in MTX. I think they were backed into a corner and had to make hard decisions, but from then it has spiraled into a very predatory MTX system.

  • @darkfog360
    @darkfog3602 ай бұрын

    POE has the best mtx with out negatively effecting game plat. Maybe jagex should talk to them on how it's done

  • @DiggaPlaya
    @DiggaPlaya2 ай бұрын

    Idk how it is today but at one point Jagex also sold bank presets and extra action bars which were super expensive back then but i think they lowered the price years later.

  • @daveburrows9876

    @daveburrows9876

    2 ай бұрын

    They still sell extra bank space. I don't mind paying for that. It's the only cash I've spent on the game outside of my annual subscription.

  • @DiggaPlaya

    @DiggaPlaya

    2 ай бұрын

    @@daveburrows9876 I was talking about bank presets, not extra bank spaces

  • @JaredKelso123

    @JaredKelso123

    2 ай бұрын

    @@daveburrows9876 How can you possibly be okay with paying for something as core to the functionality of the game as bank space?

  • @bestrivenger1261
    @bestrivenger12612 ай бұрын

    Well i dont have time to Play a shit ton anymore, i played normal for quite a long time but to be able to just buy Agility to 99 was not bad imo. I mean noone has to use mtx since everyone can play at his own pace

  • @FoulMouthFishing666
    @FoulMouthFishing6662 ай бұрын

    Id love to know how many people.have actually gotten the 50/100m cash stacks from TH, something tells me not many.

  • @Darkhalo314

    @Darkhalo314

    2 ай бұрын

    I've won 200m twice from treasure hunter.

  • @FoulMouthFishing666

    @FoulMouthFishing666

    2 ай бұрын

    No shit? Thats pretty wild, ig 200m isnt even really that much in RS3 but still a nice chunk of change! Were you buying keys or just using free ones?

  • @brbhave2p00p4
    @brbhave2p00p42 ай бұрын

    It all started in 2011 with auras and other buyable emotes

  • @jackbrown5184
    @jackbrown51842 ай бұрын

    Kinda miss Yak Track tbh

  • @bigolelevibickham7029
    @bigolelevibickham70292 ай бұрын

    i stopped playing rs3 because of keys i bought waaayyyy too many. especially if a DXP weekend was coming up i would try to stock up on proteans. there was one DXP from when it was announced until it was over i spent over $500 USD on just keys.

  • @briqtastic
    @briqtastic2 ай бұрын

    It's like you said, we are getting used to micro transactions in games. I think we just need to accept it.

  • @hillnotting
    @hillnotting2 ай бұрын

    I R O N M A N

  • @Jasongy827
    @Jasongy8272 ай бұрын

    I remember buying Diablo 2 I all I had was a cd and a key and that’s it

  • @Vnm-sh1jv
    @Vnm-sh1jv2 ай бұрын

    MTX is the death of games... SO long rs3. Osrs, I am coming back for you soon! :D

  • @SkyFireYZ
    @SkyFireYZ2 ай бұрын

    I quit during the first elite dungeon and looking at these new insane TH promos made me glad I quit early

  • @25Jake
    @25Jake2 ай бұрын

    Been playing since 2007. Came back in 2020-2023. Was hella fun and reached top 100 rank for hard clues. Even bought a phat. And im currently 1 clue item away from worlds lowest golden double agent title at about 25k completed. But after jagex fucked around with hero pass and basically shafted clues and put them to the side for months at a time i couldn't play anymore, ive since quit again.😂 jagex dont actually want to make the game better they want it to be juuust good enuff so you buy into the mtx. Fuck that. Fuck mtx dyes. They ruined the clue prices!!

  • @jasonvors1922

    @jasonvors1922

    2 ай бұрын

    Everything with both games are going down the toilet because they are choosing greed over actually doing what is right for the game.

  • @New_Name_Plz
    @New_Name_Plz2 ай бұрын

    The issue is until there is a massive improvement in compute and data centers/ server meshing it is just to expensive to Host a MMO. Jagex may have a large amount of revenue but if you were to remove MTX it sadly wouldnt be economically viable. Jagex makes a profit but honestly without MTX RS3 would not be profitable to run only OSRS would be.

  • @natepierson5653
    @natepierson56532 ай бұрын

    Jagex could make some freaking bank if they did a player model update visual combat animation overhaul. instead of that dumb combat rework witch was nice but didnt make them any money

  • @gamewithadam7235
    @gamewithadam72352 ай бұрын

    RuneScape 3's biggest plague. Not OSRS.

  • @superleipoman
    @superleipoman2 ай бұрын

    Why are bonds this high now? Can you make a video about it? It used to be about what you make on the top end PvM per hour, doesn't seem like it is now. I'm also thinking of poor Timmy the Peasant mining 60 hours for a bond. Can you still pay for it with dailies?

  • @ProtoxxGaming

    @ProtoxxGaming

    2 ай бұрын

    Already did :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3dpy9uBkZWfdrA.html&pp=ygUSYm9uZHMgMTAwbSBwcm90b3h4

  • @pcgamesf2p708
    @pcgamesf2p7082 ай бұрын

    Now thats old school rs, when the bond cost 999b i Will stop playing rs3 i been playing since 2003🎉

  • @shinyphat3105
    @shinyphat31052 ай бұрын

    My acc got hacked when I quit and had a shed ton of jcoins I needed to buy to unlock it... Think I paid nearly $200 to unlock my account, was ridiculous. Should have just quit back then.

  • @Army_of_One_
    @Army_of_One_2 ай бұрын

    Protoxx based MP7 gang

  • @ZergSmasher
    @ZergSmasher2 ай бұрын

    I haven't played in nearly 4 months now and I'm not sure I'm ever going back. Which is a shame as I do love the game. I might just stick with OSRS or I might just quit entirely, I'm not sure yet. MTX is only a small part of my reason, but it is a part.

  • @tsujack
    @tsujack2 ай бұрын

    might need to make a hard cap on bond prices or have gold traded through the system rather than player trading and inflating the price so high people are forced to buy the bonds at a cheaper rate of irl money rather than grind out for months in f2p just for 2 weeks membership and try to maintain the bond with low stats and mainly LOW TIER GEAR because THE HIGHER TIER GEAR ARE MORE THAN THE BONDS ARE WORTH ON GE. You have to think of some SKILLER WAYS RATHER THAN BOSSING. Archeology (digsite stuff at anacronia sites), Invention (mainly high alch machine), and necromancy (rituals and shit for plasm) are good and all but the time balance isn't worth it at mid-tier.

  • @TeamWatson681
    @TeamWatson6812 ай бұрын

    The economy would be so much better if they simply removed GP from TH, It completely counteracts all gold sinks

  • @lvh888
    @lvh8882 ай бұрын

    I used keys to train many skills I dislike, like Combat (dummies) and Dungeoneering (now 101). Also I trained 111 slayer with mostly dummies 🙂 I bought keys like 4-5 x but only because I didn't have time to play. These days I refuse to buy keys. I rather "grind to earn"

  • @216cle
    @216cle2 ай бұрын

    130m lmfao holy fucking shit

  • @apple54345
    @apple543452 ай бұрын

    99% of the people that are complaining about mtx are guilty of contributing to why jagex uses it. Communicate with your dollars and your time, not with your words. Your words mean literally nothing.

  • @xnanashi666x
    @xnanashi666x2 ай бұрын

    "Grab your cup of tea..., sit back... and talk shit about runescape...." 😅

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