For Emrakul, Aeon's Torn, she's also often run as a 1 of in the sideboard in modern to bring in vs mill decks. If she gets milled then your graveyard gets shuffled back into your library, and if she's hit by a Tasha's Hideous Laughter then she'll eat up 15 of the 20 mana values that card is looking for. Because of that I expect her to keep gaining a lot of points, as she'll keep becoming a 1 of in sideboards if ever mill comes back into the format.

@robman102

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielesquaratti5709 Yes, the other two titans are male.

@fabulous_finn7810

Жыл бұрын

Mill is still around, it is a solid t2-t3 deck that can top 8 major events and with a good pilot can steal leagues online. That said, mill needs 3 major upgrades: 1. Another crab. 2. A good 2 mana mill spell that functions similar to tasha's Hideous Laughter. 3. A new counterspell that mills. I should also say dimir mill splashing green for boseiju, assassin's trophy, Veil of summer, and best of all, Witherbloom command.

@whyareyoutubehandlesathing

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielesquaratti5709 technically no, but the people of Zendikar worshipped the titans after enough generational telephone. Emeria (Emrakul) was remembered as Female and Ula (Ulamog) and Cosi (Kozilek) were remembered as male

@duane6386

Жыл бұрын

@@whyareyoutubehandlesathing But even they always refer to Emrakul as she

@whyareyoutubehandlesathing

Жыл бұрын

@@duane6386 because of her being remembered as Emeria...

You actually can't respond to the Darksteel Colossus reshuffle trigger because it's a replacement effect. Cards like the shuffle titans are worded so they aren't replacement effects which is why you can respond to them with cards like Goryo's Vengeance.

@magusofthebargain

Жыл бұрын

you CAN entomb / goryo's vengeance cards like Emrakul, Ulamog, & Kozilek, because those aren't replacement effects, but your are correct: Darksteel / Blightsteel Colossus don't go to the graveyard. They get shuffled away instead.

@crawdaddy2004

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Was looking for this comment

@SpitefulAZ

Жыл бұрын

@@crawdaddy2004 i made my own before looking. 😅

Darksteel Colossus doesn't work with goblin welder since it will never actually enter the graveyard. Its more likely that it was played along side goblin welder because it was a good tinker target in artifact heavy decks.

I can't say I'm surprised that this list had a lot of points. It's a good reminder of the great principle "Why cast when you can cheat?" Of course, Blightsteel Colossus also reminds me of another principle, and it's that by using a giant Phyrexianised mech I can perhaps get "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"! Am I running out of ideas? You bet.

@caseywellington4761

Жыл бұрын

Never give up. We believe in you, Lobster.

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor

Жыл бұрын

@@caseywellington4761 I like to think I'm many things, and that people think many things of me. But one thing I hope people always think of me ever since I once spent 4 hours making GameShark codes for a game just to get back at the people who told me to use the NTSC version is absolutely tenacious.

In Possibility Storm deck, you cast a sorcery from a creature with adventure. Because adventure spells are treated as a creature card outside the stack, you get to cast Enter the Infinite for free. The win condition is to cast Ugin's Conjurant or Stonecoil Serpent to cheat in Borborygmos, Enraged from library that you put from Enter's effect, then activate Borborygmos's ability, discarding all land cards from your hand for lethal.

8:29 I believe you mean "in-SHOAL-ance" ...I'll shoal myself out.

The designers were smoking the good stuff when they designed the Emrakul cards. They feel like something from the Un- sets.

@davidemelia6296

Жыл бұрын

No, they knew what they were doing. They had to pump out some ultra-powerful cards to encourage people to buy more packs, boxes ... for FOMO. That's how Wizards markets M:tG these days, and that's how they can pump out so much product.

@keithbarlow9701

Жыл бұрын

@@davidemelia6296 You're right. They have to keep people interested in buying new product, so marketing strategies like that are necessary.

@CM-lr7tf

Жыл бұрын

@@davidemelia6296 _These_ days? Rise of the Eldrazi came out over 12 years ago at this point. Emrakul's nearly half as old as Magic itself.

I remember when Darksteel Colossus first came out and playing with my friends, the few that had one, would drop it into a casual game and it was terrifying. Almost impossible to deal with.

@dylanfarley8136

Жыл бұрын

That's why it's one of my all time favorite cards. To 11 or 12 year old me the colossus was a legitamtely unbeatable card with my random jumble of green cards that was my deck. My friend only had a single copy but that was enough to win every time if he played it.

@mattblom3990

Жыл бұрын

@@dylanfarley8136 Haha good memories. Certain cards just get an instant concede in casual. My favorite card is Phyrexian Obliterator but if I play one and my opponent doesn't have or top deck removal, they just concede.

I hate to be the nit picky nerd here, but, Darksteel colossus has a replacement effect when it is put into the graveyard. It cannot be responded to, so the Goblin welder (or any other instant speed reanimation spell) cannot cheat it into play, because it never actually gets to the graveyard, due to the replacement effect.

Oracle isn't banned in Pioneer, the card that was banned from the deck was Breach

@magusofthebargain

Жыл бұрын

Oracle is a fun card, and you're right, it isn't banned in Pioneer. But until Thassa's Oracle and Laboratory Maniac get banned in EDH, I'm going to play as many games as possible with them.

Just curious what would’ve been the new number 10 if the top 2 were merged like you said you considered doing at first

What about tooth amd nail for the colossus? Was super popular way back

i used Autochthon Wurm in an elfball deck. i eventually removed the white and red and just used clockwork dragon and surestrike trident.

Another excellent list. When I saw the title I thought of a few of these, but also Decimator of the Provinces, Mycosynth Golem, Progenitus, and the Kozeliks, as I thought Decimator had seen some Standard play, the Golem had maybe seen play during the Winter of Affinity, Progenitus is just super cool, and the titans likely some Legacy or Vintage exposure. Also having a Commander bias, I thought about Jin-Gitaxias Core Auger, Reaper King, Temporal Trespass, and Greater Gargadon. Guess not. Keep up the great content, won my Dominaria United release weekend draft thanks to your tutelage.

One of my favorite things to do back in the day was to play Enter the Infinite, discard to hand size next turn, then cast Psychic Spiral, shuffling my yard and milling basically my opponent's whole deck. I still have that deck but it is definitely not viable now that we're "good" at the game and it doesn't get to 12 mana fast enough. It's the only deck I've never disassembled but I've been meaning to upgrade it for a long time.

@HolySerega

Жыл бұрын

I was playing Spiral as a wincon in control decks. You don't even need any self mill while playing control

Can you put the first printing year and set in the on screen graphic? That might be cool

I'm a bit surprised that Temporal Trespass wasn't on the list! for some reason, i had assumed that i was played more.

Back when I still played I owned Draco. It was so cool showing people a card with a 16 mana-cost. XD

Any chance you're doing a Top 10 on how Un-sets influenced proper Magic? Like The Cheese Stands Alone eventually becoming Barren Existence or BFM led to Meld?

The Eldrazi “shuffle the whole graveyard back” thing was a bad decision.

@astuteanansi4935

Жыл бұрын

-it's not like anybody likes mill anyway-

Some variants of modern enchantress can just ramp into Emrakul, Aeons Torn (two sanctum weavers can make it pretty easy). Or you can do the Sanctum Weaver+Jeskai Ascenancy combo. Not sure how many opponents will hang around for you to play out most of your deck, though 🤣

Saw the video was posted 11 minutes ago, very appropriate.

Surprised that BFZ Ulamog didn't make the cut. Any chance you could share its score?

great topic!

I've resolved Enter the Infinite a few times in Commander. I've never lost when it goes off. :) I have lost twice resolving Emrakul: The Aeons Torn in Commander. Why? In both cases I was hurt bad already and casting Emrakul is a trigger for all the other players still in the game to gang up on you. She can still only block one creature. (Yes, we know Emrakul is technically banned but out private group allows it. Moreso since its proven to not win the game on the spot.)

Ok, so what was 11th? I feel like 1 & 2 are practically the same card.

The wurm has such weird stats at 9/14, I wonder what was the logic behind it.

@AkukAkuku

Жыл бұрын

IIRC some designer keeps the record of all unused stat combination and took the opportunity to make a 9/14.

Thassa's oracle is still legal in pioneer.

Cool video. Speaking of all of these being cheated into play, how about a Top 10 [Cheats Into Play]?

1:37 "which is the highest mana value in the entire game" Gleemax: bruh

Nizzahon, can you tell how many 11+ CMC cards have any points at all?

Loving your penguins!

to be fair, mirrodin was about the only block where darksteel colossus had a chance to be swept aside by even more powerful alternatives. i vividly remember deciding disciple would just be faster even in a deck build around affinity

@NizzahonMagic

Жыл бұрын

That's not entirely true, because people were cheating creatures into play at the time in other formats -- and they mostly went with Akroma, not the Colossus.

@kujasan

Жыл бұрын

@@NizzahonMagic true. my statement was reductive. I really just meant to say, the standard format of the time was very special. keep on doing the good work =)

How can emrakul get cheated in with through the breach it has protection from colored spells?

None of these beat Dark Depths + Vampire Hexmage though. Get that 20/20 flying Marit Lage token instantly for only the cost of the Hexmage.

Why do I love these videos so much?

i use thran temporal gateway to get my emrakul, the promised end into play

I do remember the phrase "Tinker into Colossus" in Vintage to say people were cheating Darksteel Colossus with Tinker. I believe it was the trick of choice, since with Goblin Welder you still need a way to choke the Colossus to the bin.

1:48 it would be 4 mana because of Wastes

Man could you imagine if Aeons torn was command legal. Wonder what that card kingdom price would look like if she was.

@robmitchell3039

Жыл бұрын

Interestingly, It was banned mostly because Rofellos was legal, and a Rofellos deck could get it out on turn four or five, which is extremely problematic.

I’m honestly surprised that Ulamog, Ceaseless Hunger wasn’t on here. I mean, it made the colossus look like a shrmp comparatively and has Annihilator 6. Indestructible and exile 2 permanents on entry, 10/10 trample. Absolute beast.

@andrewmoy548

Жыл бұрын

It has a mana value of 10 so not eligible for the list

@RickCentauro

Жыл бұрын

Ulamog the Ceaseless Hunger doesn't have annihilator 6, it makes your opponent exile the top 20 cards of their library when it attacks.

you don't bring back colossus with welder, they just happened to be in the same Tinker-deck.

I still use Ghalta as my Commander 😀

Emrakul, the Aeon's Torn is probably gonna only get more and more points. Especially in Vintage and Legacy with the introduction of the new Atraxa making Omniscience NO Tell decks just disgusting.

You should do "top 10 cards that cost every color"

This list is every Timmy's wildest dream.

You can't use Goblin Welder to cheat Darksteel Colossus into play, it never goes to the graveyard, from anywhere.

Emrakul, Promised end's timeframe should be 2016 and forward.

Did you forget Thrasta, Tempest's Roar? It costs 12 mana and can attack for over 300 trample, hexproof, haste damage on turn 1 in the right Modern deck.

@NizzahonMagic

Жыл бұрын

Nope. It has 1 point.

Perfect timing just looking for high mana cards

@magusofthebargain

Жыл бұрын

Thrasta

WotC: "Rampage was a mistake" also WotC: "Annihilator 6"

@NizzahonMagic

Жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure what the two mechanics have to do with one another, but okay.

So Darksteel Colossus is easy to deal with despite the fact that it's indestructible, but Blightsteel Colossus is difficult to deal with because it's indestructible.

Can we get much higher?

I GOTS THE EMRAKUL LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I didn't realize it was worth that much.

Woah woah woah, you can't respond to Darksteel Colossus going to the graveyard because that's a replacement effect, not a triggered ability. Is this a old rules change i don't know about?

lol I don't think I've ever cast Ghalta for more than 4

Dang, 2 emrakuls and 1 ulamog, but no kozilek, what a shame

@PetalGamesStudios

Жыл бұрын

Both kozileks cost 10

gotta love da big bois

I was mostly viewing this to see how many were NOT Eldrazi.

Ulmog

Woooo

Polar Kraken?

Em, Promised End came out in 2016, buddy. Not 2011.

Not a huge deal but you got the time frame for emrakul wrong, she came out well after 2011

What a well timed video with the new Urza, Planeswalker reveal. I don't know how you all feel, but to me they nailed it. 10/10. Does Urza and his power and iconic status more than enough justice. The way you bring him in feels flavorful and thematic while neither card is particularly bad either. It's not easy but not too hard either. They even synergize a bit too. And he is certainly worth the payoff. And perhaps most importantly you can't just cheat him into play and warp every format all the way back to vintage. There's no way they could have just slapped a mana value on him and print and ship him. He didn't need to be a top of the meta control deck/unfair deck pay off nor did he need to be a worthless, useless PoS either. Instead this card feels like Urza should feel. He should be the most powerful Planeswalker ever printed. The fact you need to work to give him his new eyes and flip him is just perfect.

Blightsteel Colossus is my all time favorite card. just off design

Full Domain includes Wastes as they are basic lands. So casting cost for Draco would be reduced by 12.

@tomaszurbanowicz1559

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Wastes don't count because they don't have a basic land type

@TheJacklikesvideos

Жыл бұрын

waste isn't a basic land type.

@rashakor

Жыл бұрын

Was the basic land type written on it been retcon? As far as I am concerned the Wastes card says basic land on it.

@NoahTakai

Жыл бұрын

It is a basic but has no type and doesnt affect Domain

Late night release, lets goooooooooooooooo

Why do people forget that there are actually 6 basic land types as Wastes is a basic land type.... This card like Draco can be reduced to 4...

@NizzahonMagic

Жыл бұрын

Wastes doesn't actually count, it isn't a basic land type. So no one is forgetting anything.

@Duskrequim

Жыл бұрын

@@NizzahonMagic So its a Basic Land but not a Type Land. DId not know that. I never really used waste but knew they were basic lands.

now i want to see the worst of these

Technically Draco could cost 4 mana if you have a Wastes out too!

@lorisbach9905

Жыл бұрын

Waste is not a basic land type.

Emrakul is a she? Do Eldrazis even have gender?

@TransformersBoss

Жыл бұрын

The Eldrazi are technically sexless, but we refer to Kozilek and Ulamog as male and Emrakul as female. I think it’s mostly because when the Zendikari made false gods of them, they made Emeria female and the other two male. Or maybe because Kozilek and Ulamog are more phallic and Emrakul is relatively yonic. I don’t think the Eldrazi really care.

@tomaszurbanowicz1559

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​@@TransformersBoss Wasn't there also something about Emrakul showing herself as a woman in some visions or something like that? Think I heard that as well

@TransformersBoss

Жыл бұрын

@@tomaszurbanowicz1559 she appeared to Jace in his delirium as Emeria and showed herself as female, though in that instance she was taking on an appearance Jace would understand and based it on his memory of statues depicting Emeria. That also may have been Jace’s own mental creation. Still, I think the people she was driving insane said stuff like “she is coming” or something

And after all the other bs blue was capable of over its runtime in the game of course it also becomes the pinnacle of ignoring mana cost, because why the heck not. I'm looking at omniscience and am wondering who thought it was a good idea to add it to the game. People would be up in arms if there were a 10 mana burn spell dealing 20 damage. Just baffling.

COMMANDER IS A FORMAT

OH god Nizza is an OU fan... /unsubscribe

@NizzahonMagic

Жыл бұрын

Lawl. I got my PhD there, I kind of have to be!

These cards are boring by default. They are never fun in any way. You just look the easiest way to cheat and check what's the most broken large creature in the format. If it's too good it gets banned if the ways to cheat are bad you just lose while doing nothing. Winota is the only fun creature cheating deck as you have to play so shitty high MV cards it's funny(like seriously look at that damage doubling pirate from ixalan). Plus you can play actual magic while setting up the big turn.

Dude, I like your content, and you've clearly found the format that works fine for you. But jeez... Some emotion? Give us at least SOME personality, man