MTB Headset Tech | Everything You Should Know About Mountain Bike Headsets

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The headset is one of the most important parts of a bike! But understanding which standard you need can be confusing... And why do they keep changing? In this video, we take a look at everything you need to know about headset standards: past, present and what's coming up in the future! - ⏰ Time Stamps 👇
🔘 00:33 - Modern Headsets
🔘 01:12 - Traditional Headsets
🔘 05:34 - The A Headset
🔘 07:39 - A Headset Development
🔘 09:15 - Headset Standards Explained
🔘 10:52 - Steerer Tube Development
🔘 13:16 - Where Are We Today?
🔘 17:25 - What's The Future Of Headset Standards?
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  • @drmoynihan
    @drmoynihan3 жыл бұрын

    Over the years I have had to deal with just getting my simple bikes greased up and rolling. I had no idea of the complexities that the pros were dealing with. I am glad that they have it all figured out and I can enjoy my "simple" tapered headset that still intimidates me. Thank you Doddy - glad there are guys like you to help guys like me.

  • @mikes4163
    @mikes41633 жыл бұрын

    820 likes, 0 dislikes. That's the first time I've seen a video with significant responses and no dislikes. You must be loved Doddy 😍

  • @CommaCam
    @CommaCam3 жыл бұрын

    These part-specific videos are really excellent Doddy. I appreciate the historical discussions and the comprehensive effort you're putting into these.

  • @randyjohnson7821
    @randyjohnson78213 жыл бұрын

    With the help of your guides and this great history lesson I discovered (very luckily) that my 1993 Trek 8300 headset is indeed a Dia-Compe Aheadset and I'm in the process of upgrading the solid Cro-Moly fork to a Rockshox Recon suspended fork. It's pretty neat to think I've got a nearly 30 year old bike with tech on it that was the predecessor to most modern headsets and frankly lucky because I had already bought the fork without understanding well enough how the pieces fit together. And the pieces fit together!

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun3 жыл бұрын

    Nomnomnom, we need more, maybe brakes? dont forget the rimbrake with ceramic coated rims if you do... :)

  • @lostboy8814
    @lostboy88142 жыл бұрын

    Wow what a great tutorial on headsets thanks Doddy you're a star,that was very comprehensive mate,first class.

  • @billywilliams8833
    @billywilliams88333 жыл бұрын

    Never heard of or had a threaded headset rattle loose as you said here, 40 years of Bmx, Road and Mtb riding. Also 2 brothers and a sister heavily involved in cycling and never a problem if tightened correctly!!

  • @JoolsTurrall
    @JoolsTurrall Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation, right amount of detail and covered a lot of years and changes of the headset. I am still riding my 97 Kona hei hei and knew it was an Aheadset but wasn't aware of more recent changes, just took my forks off for a service, after a long time sat in the garage unridden, and realised I need a new headset, the minefield of new headset types had me a wee bit confused. So this video has put me straight. Thanks

  • @chriskelley2075
    @chriskelley20753 жыл бұрын

    I want to be like Doddy when I grow up! Outstanding Video, I remember the quill stems. Thanks so much for this incredible lesson on headsets.

  • @molluscturtle
    @molluscturtle5 ай бұрын

    Doddy could make a great lecturer - really explains things well.

  • @peterwhittemore2720
    @peterwhittemore27202 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant advice as I'm going to be upgrading my front end. Very useful 👌

  • @stillwill1808
    @stillwill18083 ай бұрын

    You really delivered on this video. That was so much info so fast that was easy to digest and more interesting than headsets should be. I'm subscribed . Hope you made a bunch of these covering other components.

  • @stewheelie7874
    @stewheelie787411 ай бұрын

    Great presentation, i have spent the last few days reading about headsets, this was a nice way of reconfirming my learning.

  • @bobissik3478
    @bobissik34782 жыл бұрын

    Wow! So much has become clear with this awesome video! Thank you!

  • @williamj3459
    @williamj34593 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. Thanks very much. Keep them coming!

  • @markymarkpowpow
    @markymarkpowpow3 жыл бұрын

    very knowledgeable as usual, so thank you for sharing!

  • @ahamilton1305
    @ahamilton13053 жыл бұрын

    Great video, understand it now!

  • @OlleyThorpe
    @OlleyThorpe3 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to this one. Your videos are getting better and better. Big inspo 😎

  • @edwardrowland1853
    @edwardrowland18532 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, informative, with great attention to detail, excellent video for those interested in bikes.

  • @igorcvetkovic2112
    @igorcvetkovic21125 ай бұрын

    great review. answered my questions in a nice organized way

  • @stevenconnor4221
    @stevenconnor42213 жыл бұрын

    That should have been me, i argued with other mtb or roadies in the 80s at the start of my engineering carrer for using catrige bearings and tapered head tubes. I got told its to heavy or loose bearings take less load per bearing.. ah i coulda been a millionare by now lol 😁

  • @Mattcamel51
    @Mattcamel513 жыл бұрын

    Great video and very helpful. Thank you!

  • @charlieroberts3171
    @charlieroberts31713 жыл бұрын

    earliest ive been to a video, been looking for a vid like this for a while :)

  • @newttella1043
    @newttella10433 жыл бұрын

    The guy I used to ride with had the cone wrenches screwed under his bottle cage. He was a life saver for many people on the trails. Even after he got a bike with threadless, he still mounted the wrenches under the cages for years for some reason.

  • @ElburroE
    @ElburroE2 ай бұрын

    Perfect explanation. Thank you.

  • @Rustyfox46
    @Rustyfox463 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Doddy!!! How those bearings have changed, the old ball bearings rolling around the garage floor, 🤣🤣

  • @chrisridesbicycles

    @chrisridesbicycles

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, in the bikeshop where I worked during university, we had drawers with spare balls of all sizes.

  • @moritzdo8305
    @moritzdo83053 жыл бұрын

    Sick, just went through the jungle of finding a new headset for my 2007 Cannondale Rush 3. Would helped a ton of this video would be out sooner. But I'm glad that all I found out was right.

  • @jgsimons
    @jgsimons3 жыл бұрын

    Great topic and video. Thanks!

  • @launisteemu
    @launisteemu Жыл бұрын

    Bravo! What an info about headsets. I am still standing and clapping my hands.

  • @atomicdmt8763
    @atomicdmt876320 күн бұрын

    brilliant! I appreciate the comprehensive history

  • @DirtyPandaMTB
    @DirtyPandaMTB3 жыл бұрын

    very cool video! so much information. Thank you so much for this video, keep up the good work!

  • @jdillon8360
    @jdillon83602 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @kleofasskozacki9668
    @kleofasskozacki96682 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video!

  • @eric-rogers
    @eric-rogers11 ай бұрын

    Fantastic vid, well done!

  • @HermanHermDawgCasaol
    @HermanHermDawgCasaol2 жыл бұрын

    This is super helpful

  • @jediali221
    @jediali2213 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Reminds me of all the fiddling I did on old bikes. Hated quill stems. One odd little consideration is the Oneup EDC tool that replaces the star fangled nut with an internal steerer tube thread and special open top cap. I think that is just neater overall regardless of tool space it gives.

  • @BernhardSchlegel
    @BernhardSchlegel Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, really sorted this chaotic topic for me. Thanks for including history:) well done 👍

  • @df0rce
    @df0rce3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! I missed words about the Stiffmaster

  • @MrPyadster
    @MrPyadster2 жыл бұрын

    Bought new hope headset not a clue how to fit it now i do you are a life saver 😎👍

  • @ronaldquint
    @ronaldquint3 жыл бұрын

    Intelligently explained ! Thank you !

  • @dragoclarke9497
    @dragoclarke94973 жыл бұрын

    Nicely explained.

  • @benfowler16
    @benfowler163 жыл бұрын

    Awesome as allways keep it up guys

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles3 жыл бұрын

    I think the history of tech brought into the industry by Gary Fisher might be worth a video.

  • @djhillesq

    @djhillesq

    3 жыл бұрын

    I second this.

  • @MikhailSharpowicz

    @MikhailSharpowicz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think we have time!!

  • @danielv6954
    @danielv69543 жыл бұрын

    Doddy, massive thanks! Just what I needed :). Building a "frankenbike" for the neighbor's kid :)

  • @grantschmitt6098

    @grantschmitt6098

    3 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Fankenbike, I have plans to remove threaded rigid fork with quill style bar mount from a classic Trek and upgraded it. Are these old forks likely to have 1.125 head tubes that are easily upgraded to thread less?

  • @joaovieira3264
    @joaovieira32643 жыл бұрын

    Doddy being brilliant, again!

  • @nosreuter
    @nosreuter2 жыл бұрын

    Extraordinary, as always, if that's even possible?!

  • @lunara69
    @lunara692 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @gmbntech

    @gmbntech

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @frankthetankricard
    @frankthetankricard3 жыл бұрын

    I've got some less than pleasant flashbacks to the threads getting shredded off those old threaded steerer forks we had when I was a kid. These were cheap department store bikes but they planted a deep seated hatred for the standard. Quill stems make me dizzy on sight. I still remember the screams of the material as we overtightened the stem to the point of what feels like friction welding in hopes that it will stay in place for a few days. Only to be rewarded with a crooked handlebar after just rolling off a curb.

  • @MariusTheDude
    @MariusTheDude3 жыл бұрын

    great show and tell doddy

  • @scarboroughriders
    @scarboroughriders3 жыл бұрын

    500 meter allen key! Holy jebus thats a big one doddy

  • @SubmarinersDive
    @SubmarinersDive3 жыл бұрын

    Top Job Dr. Doddy! 🍻

  • @brucewilliams259
    @brucewilliams2593 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing! My bike mechanic shied away from my headset but watching this I can’t see why. I will dismantle mine and note the kit I need to replace. Thanks #gmbn.

  • @bongocat5223

    @bongocat5223

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very weird, headsets are one of the easiest parts to work on

  • @anastasioskondakos2090
    @anastasioskondakos20903 жыл бұрын

    0 dislikes! So proud of this community!!

  • @Sibert_

    @Sibert_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hard to dislike Doddy! :)

  • @maxs.2073

    @maxs.2073

    3 жыл бұрын

    still

  • @tonychambers2106
    @tonychambers21063 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel

  • @RadovanKrejci
    @RadovanKrejci3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. With history, one understands WHY things are the way they are. Thank you.

  • @nicolegreen6497
    @nicolegreen64973 жыл бұрын

    Great vid

  • @Peterkr10
    @Peterkr103 жыл бұрын

    Interesting to watch. How about the history of bottom brackets?

  • @AlBorland3877
    @AlBorland38773 жыл бұрын

    #AskGMBNTech Doddy, do the same with bottom brackets. You might need a 2 part video. ^^ Keep up the great work. Informative and entertaining.

  • @RicardoPetrazzi
    @RicardoPetrazzi3 жыл бұрын

    The Hope Headset guide was invaluable to me! It is a great resource

  • @silviutanase6141
    @silviutanase6141 Жыл бұрын

    learned so much in 18 minutes, thanks !

  • @gmbntech

    @gmbntech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! We're glad it helped.

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince88243 жыл бұрын

    My Bolt uses a tapered IS headset and it's just a joy to work with.

  • @Erafune
    @Erafune5 ай бұрын

    Perfect. Headset top and bottom has always been one of the most boring parts of the bike to get into. But now shopping for a new fork and figuring out if I can fit the same crown race and headsets to both my bikes (and how to remove the old one) to allow both forks on both bikes is soooo confusing.

  • @KSIXRIDER
    @KSIXRIDER3 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Great video ;-)

  • @joeyd1636
    @joeyd1636 Жыл бұрын

    Girvin flex stem! Classic!

  • @DeanH51
    @DeanH513 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I am considering building up my first bike, and this headset stuff was a bit of mystery. Very helpful!

  • @dylan-5287
    @dylan-52873 жыл бұрын

    I love all of the history of mtb type videos, definitely some of the best explaining how things have come to be. Your guys retro bike and visiting Marin, CA and repack mountain are some of my favorite videos.

  • @mattkavanaugh5623
    @mattkavanaugh56233 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Doddy is the best! Walking through the history and evolution of the headset made it much easier to grasp the big picture and the system as a whole. Well done.

  • @chubscoi
    @chubscoi3 жыл бұрын

    Finally!!! Found the answer if I can use a Tapered fork on my 44mm straight headtube

  • @arthurgolubev
    @arthurgolubev2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you VERY much for this video! I've been struggling to understand standards and technical part of headsets and you just got everything set up in my brain nicely!

  • @livinlarge1247
    @livinlarge1247 Жыл бұрын

    Very helpful videos. I have an 06 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper with a "Mindset" (headset) integrated into its FACT carbon frame. I am figuring it out.

  • @maxipedia
    @maxipedia3 жыл бұрын

    Nice work on the video, but pfff... come on, Doddy! You left the benchmark of headsets since the 70's out? I mean Chris King, of course! This guys was the first to make a sealed bearing headset when nobody was making one and he even started doing his own bearings, since he found the industry's offerings of the time subpar. You know that, how does he not make the cut??? I appreciate Cane Creek, I truly do, but King is on another level and has always been. As a kid from Romania, I would only dream of a King headset and eventually I got one. It was a turquoise 96'er and it went through a lot of frames and even more forks. I still have it. I actually have a little King collection these days, but that's a different story. Chris King was totally worthy of this video. Not to mention what an awesome humble person Chris is. Met him one year at EuroBike, probably 10 years ago. I tip my hat to him forever! Don't get me wrong, I like GMBN a lot and I know Doddy since his mag days, being surrounded here with stacks of Dirt Mag's and MBUK's, but disappointed that the single component that is the most benchmark benchmark of an entire industry just isn't here. Much love from Transylvania, otherwise! Mx

  • @01FozzyS
    @01FozzyS3 жыл бұрын

    I have one of those Fisher Evolution systems on my 1990 Fisher Advance.

  • @Bianchiboy
    @Bianchiboy3 жыл бұрын

    The Flexstem... I had an old Proflex with one of these, and I think it had cotton wool for the rear shock!

  • @rogergrant455
    @rogergrant4553 жыл бұрын

    Very comprehensive as always, Doddy! Many thanks. Keep up the good work. God bless!

  • @hitary1
    @hitary13 жыл бұрын

    This is so good. More in depth videos like this.

  • @pakiw2
    @pakiw22 жыл бұрын

    Oh. Have "vintage" German bike from 90's, with 37mm tube diameter. What a pain to find anything. No headsets of any description, anywhere - non, zero. Had to source custom adapters which could accept 34mm headsets. 😁

  • @mikekeen9710
    @mikekeen97103 жыл бұрын

    now i understand it much better thank you thank you doody from new zealand

  • @siwalder1618
    @siwalder16183 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing... literally the last part of my bike to upgrade

  • @MyNate1980
    @MyNate19803 жыл бұрын

    That girvin flex stem. Memories of only dampening shock on my bikes.

  • @badlarry172
    @badlarry1723 жыл бұрын

    very interesting ta

  • @nicholashooper9935
    @nicholashooper99353 ай бұрын

    Still have my Diamondback Apex 1994. With a very early Aheadset

  • @russjohnston1186
    @russjohnston11863 жыл бұрын

    Great video. How about doing one for bottom brackets??

  • @djhillesq
    @djhillesq3 жыл бұрын

    Cool vid. I love these history of MTB tech videos. Keep them coming!

  • @crookedcrank2566
    @crookedcrank25663 жыл бұрын

    Love the detail Doddy. Great vid!

  • @jaywomer2313
    @jaywomer23138 ай бұрын

    I have that exact headset never had an issue with it

  • @morlamweb
    @morlamweb8 ай бұрын

    "these [quill stems] were never completely tight". Ha! Tell that to the stem in circa-1989 GT Timberline Al Terra - steel stem, steel forks/steerer tube - that so wedged/rusted together that they're extremely difficult to get apart.

  • @NS-zv9qf
    @NS-zv9qf3 жыл бұрын

    great video to watch as I build up my dream bike as an adolescent - the univega alpina ultima - with a threaded steerer. Wow can I pull back my ebay bids to spend 1k for my recreation?

  • @cefnonn
    @cefnonnАй бұрын

    The old quill stems weren't so bad. Their push-fit bearing races could be made to last by taking them out, turning them a quarter turn and refitting them in the head tube. All my bikes have quill stems and I'm of 'a certain age' : )

  • @ruabonite
    @ruabonite2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic explainer,I started out in 1989 with Muddy Fox and after several riding hiatus's (if that's a word!),am now putting together a hybrid bike using mixed age componentry,so this really levelled the field for me 😀👍

  • @rcarroll3204
    @rcarroll32045 ай бұрын

    Not sure if different size parts every 2 years is simpler than my old (now gone) bike with quill headset. Pictures did help getting the "new-simple" one apart. Mine is as one pictured but 9+ spacers, and factory grease included in new sealed bearings. p.s. God bless Sheldon Brown.

  • @pieterbaert
    @pieterbaert3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. A lot of knowledge. A top cam shot on the hands would be handy to see the details on the table.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for such a comprehensive overview!

  • @drewstreet4178
    @drewstreet41782 жыл бұрын

    Remember about 7 years back when I was into scooters, mate had a threaded fork and headset scooter, I had a threadless one and just bought a new headset for new colour, so I sold him the old one for £5 and fitted it to his scooter threadless with the threaded top cap on😂🤦‍♂️ worked brilliant though tbh

  • @karlovuja5034
    @karlovuja50343 жыл бұрын

    Always been confused by headsets. Thought those model numbers were proprietary to certain brands. Thanks!

  • @newttella1043

    @newttella1043

    3 жыл бұрын

    The worse thing about headsets were that they rarely came with instructions. Some didn't come with crown races, or probably the shop had opened the box and misplaced it.

  • @jugaloo5873
    @jugaloo58732 жыл бұрын

    Lets respect the old stuff, it's what a lot of us dudes grew up with!!

  • @RodZamora_is_the_best
    @RodZamora_is_the_best3 жыл бұрын

    You're one of the most educational and enjoyable bike educators. I've learnt so much since I started watching your videos.

  • @jhoughjr1
    @jhoughjr12 жыл бұрын

    Ive been to Durango. My aunt lived in Delores.

  • @williamvangorden44
    @williamvangorden443 жыл бұрын

    O!I remember that stem.

  • @romeohernandez6601
    @romeohernandez66012 жыл бұрын

    Nice video!! Can You tell me what Headset I need for a Cannondale Trail One SL 2021 tapered..

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