Melody Pond- River Song- Carol Flood

@jordanmcculloch1169

10 күн бұрын

If they ever brought River back then 1. It would be Alex 2. It would be a moffat episode

@Clev3rByte

10 күн бұрын

@@jordanmcculloch1169 or maybe the river went rouge

@goku48071

10 күн бұрын

I like the theory, but it's near impossible, River die with no Regenerations. It would have to be before, and that doesn't line up. Never say never,but very unlikely

@CandygramMongo

10 күн бұрын

Im just surprised River still never figured out how to break out of the library. I think she’ll be back eventually.

@alexharper7699

10 күн бұрын

​@@CandygramMongoshe did...I can't remember the episode but she appeared and said that she wasn't really here, but projecting herself from the library.

Isis, whose tears flooded the Nile after Osiris was killed by Sutekh?....Mrs Flood.....just saying! I think she is another Osiran/God

@JamesShipman-ef1tj

10 күн бұрын

They’re all dead though. Would LOVE a “you are not alone” for Sutekh

@TheCagedCorvid

10 күн бұрын

Finally, a theory that A. I haven't seen anywhere, and B. Draws on actual mythology rather than just previous who stuff... I like it.

@Reprodestruxion

10 күн бұрын

Good one

@andygozzo72

10 күн бұрын

@@JamesShipman-ef1tj maybe horus, or an aspect of horus, possibly the only one that can stop sutekh?

@superplushtiman7ti075

8 күн бұрын

​@JamesShipman-ef1tj where does it say that?

From one Joe to another it’s lovely to see the community so hyped and you pumping out these theory vids. Say what you will about everyone’s individual opinions but the sense of community if so lovely to see again.

Why has everyone forgotten that the Doctor spent a very long night with River (24 years together, did they just hold hands? That would make for a long & wasted final date). I do not think Mrs Flood is Susan, the grand-daughter, but the Doctors actual daughter as hinted at during his conversation with Kate.

@constancecampbell4610

10 күн бұрын

I was thinking about that final night, too. It’s hard to imagine the Doctor leaving River’s body until he was sure she hadn’t regenerated, so could she have given birth in some way without his knowing? How do Time Lords give birth? Hmm. It would be interesting to see what Russell might do with that.

@bennettnez4711

10 күн бұрын

​@@constancecampbell4610well he definitely left before she regenerated, she had to go save 10 at the library

@constancecampbell4610

10 күн бұрын

@@bennettnez4711 👍

@BritishBeachcomber

10 күн бұрын

Don't forget that River and The Doctor's timelines run in opposite directions.

@jamesswindley9599

10 күн бұрын

It’s not her

Poor ruby’s mother everyone’s asking who is she ? and not how is she ? 😢😢

Mrs. Flood is a chameleon arched Susan. And between her first and second appearance in the first episode of the season she opens up her watch. Which explains why she warms up towards the end. Seeing the tardis disappear makes her curious about it and then she opens it up and at the end of the episode she knows all

@jamesswindley9599

10 күн бұрын

Thank you!!! It’s Susan or a future or past companion only… who knows what is happening in her time :)

She also commented a tad uncaringly that the only reason someone died of an ulcer was becuase she wasnt looking. The Rani is a biologist. Looking after people's health would be childs play for her. But we've had Susan mentioned so damn much im betting either flood or the 'kind woman' is susan

Mrs flood has been seen in filming for next season, so she must be someone important

@lunaflower4507

10 күн бұрын

Omg no wayyyy

@jordanmcculloch1169

10 күн бұрын

@@lunaflower4507 I believe it was an episode in either the 50s or 60s, but i could be mistaken, But she was definitely seen on set and acting in an episode

@lunaflower4507

10 күн бұрын

@jordanmcculloch1169 that is epic so epic i mean you don't get someone like Anita Dobbson and not use her to the fullest

@willhamidi1618

10 күн бұрын

Yes she in America 40's/50's and the doctor is with the new companion met in Boom. Question: Is she time traveling with the Doctor and the Tardis or by herself?

@lunaflower4507

10 күн бұрын

@willhamidi1618 or in her own tardis maybe who knows.

What about Clara Flood. When the Doctor defeats Suhtek, Mrs Flood exclaims “Clever boy, he did it. “ or something along those lines. She could be Clara - who walked along the Doctor’s timeline.

You miss that the name Jinkx Monsoon means, if using synonyms, Curse Rain. Which obviously converts to something like Rani Curse, or Curse of the Rani. You said RTD likes to throw in easter eggs and it would be fitting if he directed everyone to Susan Twist's name, but the bigger secret is in a different actor's name. They did trail Jinkx Monsoon being cast quite early. I'm not sold on it, but it could be a plausible clue along with others pointing to Mrs Flood being a Time Lord.

Mrs Flood has to be an important character, she could also be someone we don't know, not necessarily a character connected to the events of this season. RTD said that Mrs Flool is a slow burn, if I remember correctly. Whatever it is, Mrs Flood can't just be a nosy neighbour, she's broken the fourth part twice already it's too important a thing to have someone who's a nobody, it would be bad writing.

Here are 10 theories I think you've missed: 1. River Song ( post-Forest of the Dead regeneration ) 2. Romana 3. The Meddling Monk 4. The Valeyard 5. The Doctor's mother ( either the one from End of Time or the person who sent the Timeless Child into the portal to Gallifrey ) 6. The Trickster 7. The Black Guardian 8. Jenny ( from The Doctor's Daughter ) 9. Omega 10. Horus ( Sutekh's brother who imprisoned him originally )

@medafan53

10 күн бұрын

Didn't River use up all her regenerations to save the 11th Doctor in Let's Kill Hitler? And the whole reason for her sacrifce in Forest of the Dead was that what the Doctor wanted to do to save everyone was so deadly that it would kill him totally, beyond even the capacity to regenerate.

@Invariantjoker

7 күн бұрын

I don't think the valeyard is a possibility really, I mean the valeyard was one specific incarnation of the doctor amalgamated from his darker sides, so I don't think he could necessarily regenerate into someone else, plus not really a character we need to see again. He served his purpose I think. Other than that (and of course it's just my opinion) some really great theories out there, my personal favourite is that she is Romana

@mrnuke999

3 күн бұрын

What if Mrs Flood is a Time Lord we haven’t seen yet, at least not on screen. She could be the Corsair. Sure, he was presumed dead, having his kidneys stolen by patchwork people in a bubble universe. But we know regenerating Time Lords can grow new kidneys (in undesirable colors). The Corsair is also the first Time Lord we learn about changing genders, so showing up as an old woman wouldn’t be surprising. And who else would benefit more from a great Flood than a pirate. I think we need to check Mrs Flood for tattoos.

Mrs flood treats Ruby, the sme way, The First Hartnell doctor treated Susan. Even the abrupt rudeness and distant yet alien like perspective

I don't think (ou maybe I hope not) Mrs Flood is Susan, but I have a strong feeling that we'll get to see Susan in this finale, hopefully played by Carole Ann Ford 😍 I'm more into the Rani theory.

@mikey102ish

10 күн бұрын

I was thinking something similar! If you're gonna have Susan its GOT to be CAF!

@ract46

9 күн бұрын

Or, would RTD cast someone else in the role to create mystery around the character through the season and then reveal them to be disguised Susan who drops their disguise when they meet and so Carole Ann Ford only appears in the final episode and named in the closing credits? I think the Rani is more likely, but then that could also be a misdirect using the name Mrs Flood. I really have no idea.

She's clearly rassilon. She's hiding. Wasn't on galifrey when it got chibnalled. Recognised the tardis and we've never seen rassilon make tea either.

@ivymoon5084

10 күн бұрын

I do like someone remembers rassilon could still be out there somewhere

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

While Rassilon is definitely out there, I feel like they wouldn't be able to resist trying to throttle the Doctor as soon as she recognised him if they were Mrs Flood . Rassilon doesn't strike me as the type to forgive being deposed.

Mrs Flood is RTD.

If Mrs Flood is Susan all hell will break loose....it HAS to be Carole Ann Ford or nothing. As there have been pictures of Mrs Flood( or at least... Anita Dobson) in Series 2 she is clearly a mystery yet to be solved.

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

Both could technically be true. Carole Ann Ford could reprise the role as the Susan we know (e.g. in the Memory TARDIS we know is in the finale), while Anita Dobson could be Susan as she is now, having regenerated and hidden herself away. I'm not necessarily on the Mrs Flood = Susan train, just saying it wouldn't have to preclude Carole Ann.

Whoever it is it's worth considering the way she talks to Cherry.

@charlie891

9 күн бұрын

its so gotta be a red herring tho, she never does anything outright antagonistic to her, maybe she just doesn't KNOW how to make a cup of tea...? 🤔

@garycullen7390

9 күн бұрын

MY OTHER THEORY as I put a comment before about RUBY and Mrs FLOOD is that MRS FLOOD is like Guinan in STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION and can sense things but her humour is unusual ( scaring Cherry ) and she is watching RUBY for a reason

@kylerowe9552

8 күн бұрын

I think flood is Susan or somebody good and she knows that cherry is someone bad in hiding…

BTW, I LOVE your videos. Hope your channel get bigger and bigger,

With RTD's drive to canonize everything, that would include "Dimensions In Time", so it's obvious. Mrs. Flood is Angie Watts.

@quantisedspace7047

4 күн бұрын

You're saying EE takes place in the Dr Who Universe ?

There's one thing I'm not seeing mentioned anywhere... Pyramids of Mars... sutekh Waters of Mars...the flood I'm not saying this link has any legs, the two stories don't connect on any way, but it's something, maybe.

Love your insights and videos. Your output is out of this world. Keep the amazing work

I think she's the God of stories We've had Goblins, a Bogeyman, Faeries, a forbidden forest, and Rogue fit the "prince at a ball" trope also talk of TV shows like Star Trek which are modern day stories. Ruby could be Sutekh's opposite, goddess of birth/life. She's had adventures with babies at least twice now, she's come back from death. And this leads me to thinking The Doctor is her Harbinger. He embodies life and rebirth, he saves people, he regenerates and he always introduces himself first before Ruby. If I'm honest I don't think I'm anywhere close to right but I do enjoy making theories.

@identity9590

8 күн бұрын

I love this so much, explains how she breaks the fourth wall a couple of times too

@ChaingunCassidy

5 күн бұрын

She's obviously Romana.

@TheodoreIzzo

4 күн бұрын

Romana or The Master (assuming Sacha Dhawan’s Master is from before Missy and that Mrs. Flood is a post Michelle Gomez Missy who is reformed and on the doctor’s side but still has a sassy bedside manner).

@TheodoreIzzo

4 күн бұрын

Also, despite anything that’s been revealed in universe or said by RTD or anyone, I still like the fan theory that Susan is the real timeless child and that the Doctor only claimed timeless child status to protect Susan, and when the former had a memory wipe Chameleon Arch style, they didn’t remember that they in fact were NOT the timeless child and that it was just a ruse. It’s not that far fetched and can fit most of what we know.

Best Mrs flood first name: Beforethe Flood

@peggyerickson2549

6 күн бұрын

Rani or Susan

Thanks for the video. You are working hard on this! 👍

Mancunian not Manchurian 😂

@johnquinn3223

10 күн бұрын

I came here to say that 😂

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

Now now, maybe she's a Manchurian (agent) Mancunian. lol

I think mrs flood is Clara because when the screen displayed SUTEKH it was in the Oswald font and in the legend of ruby sunday she wears a very similar outfit too clara...

@user-sb1np8ob9i

2 күн бұрын

She uses the term "clever boy"

Everybody appears be forgetting about that tweet Russell put out oooo, a while ago now ' susan... Now whatever happened to her?????'

@lisa_wistfulone7957

10 күн бұрын

Could be significant…!🤔

Theory: Mrs. Flood is a Time Lord is an incarnation of Ruby, who is also a Time Lord. I mean, regeneration is a hell of a growth spurt! And maybe it was an incarnation of Mrs. Flood who dropped Ruby/herself off with herself to be looked after -- maybe the mysterious woman who we think may be Ruby's mother is ALSO Mrs. Flood/Ruby -- dropping herself off with herself to watch after herself. OK. I'm done. (I prefer the Susan theory, actually, but this one is definitely timey-wimey.)

I kinda thought it might be the doctors mother. i'm sure he mentioned in one of the episodes that he was abandoned too like Ruby and never knew his mum. (or maybe even Jenny)

Did anyone else notice how she went posh when she spoke to Cherry? She's been playing a character..... I think she has to be Susan. We don't actually know for sure she's bad yet and she's broken the fourth wall just like the Doctor has.

@flaggerify

10 күн бұрын

She didn't break it in this episode as some seem to think. She was looking at the storm.

@Theplaysthet

10 күн бұрын

@@flaggerify she did. She totally did.

@flaggerify

10 күн бұрын

@@Theplaysthet No she wasn't. She was looking at the storm. And she was talking to the granny. Unless the director was completely incompetent. She wasn't even looking directly down the lens. People look at me like that when they are staring at my chin.

Personally I think ms flood is the doctors true mother from the portal, the way she calls the doctor good boy, it gives off paternal relationship

@amygarman2247

4 күн бұрын

She said 'clever boy', and is wearing Clara's outfit...

@unknownxd1233

4 күн бұрын

@@amygarman2247 and that makes no sense

I’m almost CERTAIN Mrs Flood is the Master. Knowing that RTD likes to revisit and canonize little weird bits I wouldn’t be surprised if after the tooth, the master was formless again like before the 96 movie. Them possessing her would explain how she suddenly changes character and is now “hiding herself away”

@jordanmcculloch1169

10 күн бұрын

I know RTD lies, but in this situation I dont think he has. He has said he has not written the master in anything yet, And that was while he was writing season 2

@jordanmcculloch1169

10 күн бұрын

In Saying that though, Mrs Flood has been seen in the filming for season 2, so it could still be possible

@Luke88888

10 күн бұрын

The problem with this theory is that the hand that took hold of the tooth had red nail polish while Mrs Flood doesn't use some.

@constancecampbell4610

10 күн бұрын

Oooh, like the Derek Jacobi kindly professor character who became the decidedly unkind Master played by John Simm. Got chills on this one. 👍

@constancecampbell4610

10 күн бұрын

@@Luke88888I can’t shake the idea that Jinx Monsoon was on the other end of that red fingernail. 🤷‍♀️

Everyone seems to forget at the start of the series in Space Babies the Rani is mentioned but so is the Bishop and the Conquistador (one who conquers), the Pedant (Pedantic teacher) and the Sagi-Shi (someone who cons or tricks). Why did Russell name drop these at the start of the season? Seems like he doesn’t have these details in for no reason. They haven’t been mentioned since the first episode as well almost long enough for viewers to forget 🤔

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

@tomarhawk She was also supposed to be namedropped by Mel in the Giggle just before the Doctor bigenerates. It was cut because it felt a bit clunky, but it's still in the shooting script.

@tomarhawk

9 күн бұрын

@@TheRantingCynic yes I had seen this quite interesting they left it out. Part of me hopes it is her but also interesting these others are mentioned so if she’s not one of those time lords/ladies then hopefully we will see them in future episodes

@ChaingunCassidy

5 күн бұрын

To throw us off the scent of Romana.

Mrs. Flood could be another daughter of Rory and Amy Pond that was born while they were in their new life in the past. Enough time could have passed that Mrs. Flood would be the right age. She would have grown up with her mother telling her stories of the Raggedy Man and his Box. She may have even spent time with her sister, River Song and learned a few Spoilers.

Mrs Flood has bit of evil in her can’t see it been Susan more like the Rani imo

@scotthewitt258

10 күн бұрын

Does she, though? The ominous thing could be another red herring. Maybe it sounded more sinister than it actually is.

For how Susan becomes Mrs Flood, Daleks went after every Time Lord in Time War, so she could have used chameleon arch to hide back then. But there are strong arguments against that. 1 - if she was still a hidden Time Lady, she wouldn’t know about TARDISes, so would not have made the comment at the end of Church on Ruby Road. 2 - is she had learned her true identity as Susan again, why would she not have revealed herself to the Doctor. BUT, if she is Susan, I hope we see Carole Ann Ford again, like in Night of the Doctor, regenerating into Mrs Flood.

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

In answer to 1, she would if she'd opened the Chameleon Arch between scenes.

Mrs Flood... River? With a hologram disguise... reveal in the ep... the moff writes River and he's doing Joy to the world

Someone never mentioned by theorists is Rassilon. He was banished from Galifrey and probably escape the massacre of the timelords. Rassilon is also power hungry and has a grudge against the Doctor.

It's never really mentioned how much Mrs Flood changes in that 1st episode, from 1st appearance to the last she changes. There is a lot of long running time travel changes/consequences in this series (Mavity is still a thing)

If you look at the way Russell T Davis brings back villains they are all in order of when they appeared in the classic series eg. Daleks, Cybermen, Master, Davros, Sutekh which would indicate the next series villain maybe the Rani e.g. Mrs Flood

@ivymoon5084

10 күн бұрын

Maybe, but the first ones he brought back were actually the autons. There's a few smaller returning ones in the RTD era too, like the macra in s3

@andrewglasson4583

10 күн бұрын

@@ivymoon5084 yes true.

Obviously she's the wife of Mr Flood

The thing about the TARDIS theory is that people lean on "The Doctor's Wife" as precident for the TARDIS Matrix existing within a human body, but this ignores a very key plot point; that within hours that body failed, explicitly because she was housing the TARDIS Matrix, at bare minimum Mrs Flood has been around for a few months, based on her interaction with her neighbours, we can presume she's been living there for years, if she was the TARDIS, she'd have died within a day.

For it to be Susan, she would need to find a way back in time from the late-22nd century first.

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

There's plenty of cheap and nasty time travel out there. Plus if you take BF into consideration, we know Susan was involved in the Time War; I could imagine her either getting a TARDIS of her own, or getting dropped back in the wrong time period.

Mrs Flood has been functioning as a classic Greek chorus this season, making comments and announcements to us, the audience. And not just when she's looking at the camera. For instance in Legend she says to Cherry "Well we'd all like a lot of things...that aren't going to happen." That's RTD talking to us the audience about all the theories and expectations. I still believe she's tied to Susan Foreman, but I suspect we won't see how until Christmas or next season.

I think she's too sinister for Amy Pond, Melody Pond or River Song. My bet is that she's the Rani = Mrs Flood = rain = Rani??? I bet an additional twist i.e. why she's been centred on the Sunday's = that Ruby is her granddaughter: making Ruby part human and part timelord?

If RTD is bringing Susan back, it has to be Carole Ann Ford. I suspect we won't find out who Mrs Glood is till Season 2.

Iris Wildthyme or Hecuba.. Or she is the embodiment of the TARDIS.. she did refuse Cherry a Cuppa (...as if she was the TARDIS she had a coffee thrown on her and didn't want that again!)

Rain - a storm is coming. Tec(h)teun? Or a Sister of Karn, whose role as keepers of the sacred flame and it's by-product the Elixir of Life would put them very much on Sutekh's hit list - their origins as servants of a pre-web of time, pre Time lord magical ruler of Gallifrey The Pythia would make them suited to this era

9:31 they likely wouldn't share an accent if she was estranged as a baby. Not defending the theory, just questioning the logic.

@medafan53

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, accent is nurture not nature, it's how you pronounce words, which i is rooted in how you learned to speak, which is by copying those around you, it's noting to do with your parantage if they weren't the ones raising you.

@ImmortalAbsol

10 күн бұрын

@@medafan53 Indeed.

The wait is killing me!

You know how in the legend of ruby Sunday the doctor says he hasn’t had kids yet (timey wimey) what if mrs flood is one of the doctor’s future kids or ex wife?

@quantisedspace7047

4 күн бұрын

The Doctor has had a companion who is supposedly his granddaughter. There was The doctor' Daughter. He has stated that he was a parent long time ago. Can't see how to reconcile this. It's possible, of course, that Susan Foreman was his legitimate granddaughter, but her mother (the Doctor's daughter) hasn't been born yet.

You say she isn’t very nice to Ruby but they’ve literally made a point of making Mrs. Flood not nice to basically anyone except Ruby. As for the Susan theory, I think most people would be annoyed if they recast Susan while Carol Anne Ford would still happily play her character.

RTD doesn't do coincidences. But he does like his herrings red.

Mrs Flood is most likely the master due to her having the golden tooth from the giggle along to the similar nail polish that the women's hand had in the end of the giggle special. As the master was trapped in the golden tooth. Could be that she is free as she knows most of the pantheon. As well as storm down the pearly gates.

Susan has been mentioned, but also mentioned that the Doctor had a granddaughter before he had a daughter, what if Mrs Flood is River's daughter? potentially Susan's mother

@groverlux

10 күн бұрын

Taking that to an even wilder theory... what if it's Ruby who is the doctors daughter and Mrs. Flood is Susan who is watching over her own mother

Its her from East Enders silly...lol

Mrs flood played by anita dobson who played landlady of queen vic the rani disguised her tardis as the queen vic in dimenions in time

Mrs Flood may be named for Gerald Flood who voiced Kamelion during the 5th doctor's run A chameleon arch turns a timelord into a human but also blocks thier knowledge, establishing an unaware personality. Mrs Flood's front door color is very tardis like, perhaps residual knowlege like Mr Smiths book. Perhaps seeing the tardis phase out was enough to unblock the knowledge? Could Mrs Flood actually be a hiding Rassilon?🙃 Probably not... But.....

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

I mean, Rassilon is out there somewhere... 👀 That said, I can't help but think she wouldn't be able to resist immediately trying to chokeslam the Doctor as soon as she recognised him if she was Rassilon. Twelve really humiliated him.

5:37 he also said that susan twist was unimportant

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

In an obviously joking way

Susan Flood. Sounds about right, and she has the right amount of seriousness and cheekiness to be the Doctor's granddaughter 😊 Just like Grampa!

So many theories its getting beyond! I do think Mrs Flood could be Susan as she appears to be psychic.. and. Susan had the same abilities. I think Cherry is The Rani! And thats why Mrs flood ( Susan is keeping and eye on ther ) look i also have many other theriea 😂 like Kate or Mel is Rubys mother..... I just hope rhey reveal everthing in the final episode 🎉

@JulieAiken

10 күн бұрын

I originally thought Kate was Ruby’s mom. If so I don’t think she realizes it - she has not indicated in any way that she thinks she’s connected to Ruby.

@MrQuantumWellness

10 күн бұрын

@@JulieAiken there read 2 instances I thought she could be because she seems to show she really cared for Ruby in 73 yards and also in The legend of Ruby Sunday when Ruby cried in the time window.. Kate looked like she was devastated for her and torn. I believe the father is the Master.. when he was Saxon the prime minister. Also could be Mel because Mel lost all her family and maybe she needed to give up the child to protect her. I hope this is all resolved by the finale 🤞

She has to be something to do with Time. When she enters the flat in legend of ruby Sunday, the time flickers to 15:08 and they mention a storm coming. This is a full 65 minutes out of sync with the full episode, as Susan makes her speech at 15:00. That means the great tea denial and the breaking of the fourth wall all happen out of order with main episode. If Susan makes her speech at 15:00, Sutekh is shown shortly after. A full hour earlier, the time was shown as being off in the flat. She has an evil streak though…. So Rani would make sense. Best way to get rid of sand is to wash it away with a flood..

Probably making a big stretch at this but isn’t a fordis a shallow place with good footing where a river or stream. And a Forman is a keeper of a ford. So at a stretch you could make it fit with flood but I dont know just excited to see it all unfold x

Maybe Mrs Flood is a Timelord hiding out on Earth, in one of the older ‘DR Who’ stories (not sure if it was the Third or the Fourth Docter, but around that time), the Docter had a Timelord companion assign to him by the Council of Timelord for some mission who stayed on for some time after. I cannot remember her name (in the show) or the title of the episode.

She’s the Rani until proven otherwise.

@RavenThom

10 күн бұрын

She's the Doctor's daughter, 12+River = Carol Flood Promise!

RTD sent us on a wild goose chase before with the reveal of Ruby's mum. I wouldn't be surprised if Mrs Flood is just Mrs Flood. She could just be a narrative bridging things together.

Susan’s mom. He mentioned that he doesn’t have a daughter yet. He’s never met Susan’s mother, Susan is apparently from his personal future.

Being Susan would be great. I'd love for them to talk about why Susan is, in fact, NOT their granddaughter, but if you take the idea that her timeline could have changed, who knows.

The funny thing about RTD, he has people monitor the high traffic websites, so when the new episodes do air, he will apply a name that no one has guessed. Similar with picking the next doctor. Want them to have a chance, don't suggest them😂

I always thought the whirrling violin music they used was just for the master but I heard it a few times in this episode. Including when Mrs flood said he is returning. 🧐

My theory is Mrs Flood is either The Rani or Susan having hidden herself using a pocket watch but the pocket watch is so old it's cracked and leaking time lord memories back into her mind.

I know someone has already mentioned Clara and in another video I saw there were pictures of Clara and Mrs Flood wearing exactly the same clothes. Worth considering and certainly a possibility.

My theory: she's the meddling monk from really classic who. In the last episode, the Doctor mentioned 1066 as one of the times he landed on Earth. If you look up 'Doctor Who 1066', you get the Meddling Monk episode. In the most previous episode the monk appeared, he was stranded on an ice world. This could explain why the last time we saw Mrs Flood, she was in a sort of 'winter Mary Poppins'. Just before she was hit with the dust of death, she mentioned having 'plans', I recently watched the meddling monk episode and he mentioned having helped create stone henge and wanting to help Harold Godwinson be king instead of William the Conqueror, so perhaps Mrs Flood's plans are something like that. Finally, the Meddling Monk has a TARDIS, perhaps indicating why Mrs Flood knows what a TARDIS is.

She’s clearly the flood from waters of mars

Alternate theory: Mrs. Flood is the goddess Isis. Set (Sutekh) killed her husband Osiris. Her tears FLOODED the Nile. She then HID AWAY until her son Horus came of age to defeat him.

JENNY the doctors daughter . they spoke of the grandaughter to hide the fact he has a daughter

flood is another wrod for rain, the rani is an anogram of rain

Clara! Literally wearing the same clothes

@lisa_wistfulone7957

10 күн бұрын

Interesting. I haven’t seen this theory before. Clara did scatter herself across the Doctor’s timeline to always be there to save him…

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

@d8hole Except Clara is frozen in her last second of life (as the Doctor reiterates in the Giggle); she's taking the long way round looking like Jenna Coleman, to her death where she looks like Jenna Coleman. Plus Mrs Flood says her mother died of an ulcer, whereas Clara's mother died in the Auton attack seen in "Rose".

I wouldn’t be surprised if the woman who left baby Ruby at the church turns out to be Carole Ann Ford…

@TheRantingCynic

9 күн бұрын

We know a secret actor has been teased...

She might be the master from "The Mind Robber" - a story with the Second Doctor. Mrs Flood's purpose seems to have a good story. No matter who die, no matter who wins - her primary interest is a catch story. So as the master's from "The Mind Robber". As oppose to science fiction's nature of the previous seasons, this one is getting more supernatural/fantasy as it breaks the boundaries between dimensions. As a result it returns The Toymaker and other supernatural creatures that break physics laws and even canon for the sake of plot development. That's why think that Mrs. Flood is the master from "The Mind Robber".

It's Susan. Everyone thinks Suthek is the "one who waits". I'm pretty sure so far the term has been "The" one who waits. Not "He" who waits. This would mean that she is also the villain of the piece. Trapped on a derelict 22nd Century Earth for lord knows how long events which occurred after The Dalek Invasion Of Earth have left her bitter and vengeful

Amy Pond. River Song. Mrs Flood. Hmm. What if she's Susan, the doctor's daughter, who the 1st doctor left behind after the Dalek invasion of Earth, which curiously no one remembers, so perhaps that was in a different timeline. As for being a Time Lord, they're extinct, of course, except they are always popping up. Something to consider is that there are many doctors, and they don't seem to know about each other. Seems there was a doctor farm, long ago, churning them out. He met one, a negro woman, in an episode a few seasons ago, who had a Tardis that camouflaged itself as the upper floor of a bungalow. It's about time he met some of his unknown peers.

Great videos and some really good theories. I hope Mrs Flood is not the Rani as the character is just the same as the Master, which had been done too many times in both classic and new Who - same as Daleks ...i'm still expecting them to show up in the Finale if not they'll probably appear in the Christmas episode. I'm hoping Mrs Flood is a new character which we will learn more about over time but i don't think we will find out her full story by the end of the Finale..

I think there's a good chance Mrs Flood is a Timelord who unknowingly "hid away", because the first time she sees the TARDIS, she is stunned and drops her grocery bags, but then the next time we see her she asks, ...never seen a TARDIS before?" When the 10th Doctor & Martha went into hiding to get away from the family of blood, he didn't know who he really was, hiding himself in the watch. It even suppressed his second heart from beating. I'd love it to be Missy, but the Master already hid himself away in a kindly professor. I believe doing it again would feel like a bit of a cheat.

I have a theory. When she first saw the tardis, it scared her. She had no idea what it was. At the end of the first episode, it was like she was a completely different person. So what if that's exactly what she is. What if she's been replaced by a Zygon or something. What if the name Flood, is just a red herring, meant to mislead you.

I really like this theory; That Mrs.Flood might be The-Doctor’s granddaughter.

I think she is Susan. When in episode 2 the new doc referenced the junkyard and seemed a little uneasy about being there in the same general part of London in 1963.

A companion the doctor does not remember would be very interesting indeed... I love that concept!

After the nonsensical reveal around Ruby and her mum being 'ordinary' after Ruby can make it snow and the references to the Christmas carol, frankly I no longer care who Mrs Flood is...

Mrs Flood, could be the wife of the Oncoming Storm... You just sold me on Missy.

So many theories so here's the final maybes dump before I find out, not just for Mrs Flood but for who/what might be relevant somewhere. Note the toymaker's deck of cards being manipulated, time jigsaw comment. Dorothy Bell Various gods of dead/ the dead link in mythology and gods in Who lore, some various roles linked to dead, protecting, rebirthing, parenting, guiding etc. Always a twist at the end, the end- death, twist at the end suggests story/ plot twist, life story, birth a twist after death?, birth counters death, sun dies at night and is birthed in morning. Susan Triad's trauma, Mel saying something is wrong you need to help her- trying to recall her real, hence not controlled by Sutekh self? To Doctor, 'I'd remember a handsome chap like you' - but the Doctor does not have the face Susan knows if it is THE Susan so could still be the case, does Susan know about regeneration? But also Sutekh is in control of Susan Triad so it is not the real person. Sutekh could be using Susan Foreman to cruelly hurt doctor, otherwise why would Sutekh Susan Triad have the did you think I was family line?, how cruel would it be to take Susan Foreman over, lure The Doctor to them then have the Doctor not see that it is them and believe it is not? Also the TARDIS anagram could be a call for help from the uncontrolled Susan, instead of a trap, or maybe it is both, Sutekh and the real Susan could both be using it to get the Doctor's attention. When not fully controlled we see Susan is humble, quite normal and gentle and very upset by what is happening. She also remembers but does not understand the different personas. Set in mythology is the things Who has used it for for the pantheon including master of storms, disorder, destruction..., a trickster. Fairies in who lore, did wonder why Dot and Bubble victim had blueish thus non human blood, two possibly relevant related or unrelated observations. DANGER DANGER Harriet Arbinger has been head of the archive at UNIT, this has to be very not good methinks. Also plants the idea of using the CCTV hence links to my is the time window the actual trap/ means of crossing over for Sutekh theory. Possibly relevant gods, may be others, could be good or bad or rivals etc, family links- Nut, Osiris, iris is eyes again, as is Horus/ eye of Horus, Iris Cabriola. Iris Wildthyme? Unlikely but would actually fit in some slightly stretching it ways. More possible gods. Isis. thought: if toymaker ran from the one who waits after seeing it hiding that may NOT be Sutekh as they are both linked through the pantheon, so this possibly a clever misdirection, Isis in mythology and Who lore, in latter HAS WAITED ON EARTH FOR AWAKENING OF SUTEKH linked to possible trap for Sutekh but not sure if her trap or she is preventing the trap working. In mythology helps dead enter the afterlife, linked to mothering the deceased and rebirth, sister of Sutekh (Set), maternal and possibly kind. Isis, eye, sis hehe, one Mrs Flod candidate as Mrss Flood has had carer roles in backstory and current time, 'mum died but that was when I wasn't looking' so a possibility for the list. in mythology greatest magical power of gods, 'said to protect the kingdom from its enemies, govern the skies and the natural world, and wield power over fate itself.', 'helped to restore the souls of deceased humans to wholeness as she had done for Osiris', . says the wisdom of the wikiweb. Also is a rival to Set and like some other gods mothers the deceased. Isis is a strong contender for Mrs Flood as waiting, likely watching and hiding- Hiding references- doctor to their appearance, Mrs Flood is always hiding away, Toymaker saw it (the one who waits) hiding and ran Nephthys, Set(Sutekh)'s sister and wife, erm, ok, guess gods do family differently as non-entities, in Who lore split into two instincts/reasoning as possibly more dangerous than Sutekh. A guardian over the dead, water goddess, childbirth link. In mythology it may be Set's benevolent aspect she is married to. I had a maybe unlikely but quite pleasing theory of possible Susan 'Triad' and Dorothy Bell link, either or both, re actress theory for Susan 'Triad', Dorothy Bell is film actress and a human-Osiran hybrid. A hand of Sutekh and the name means god's gift so a Dorothy Bell and Susan 'whoami' link would actually really work, if not feel free to nick my thinking team Who! Plus was possibly mystery Susan's first appearance Mrs Merridew a handmaiden, similar to a waitress/ tea lady as she was in The Devil's Chord where she also mentions an acting role (that's me as the wicked lady). Hecuba? The Queen of Time, not sure if this from the story The Queen Of Time or was stated in The Devils Chord but wiki has her as aunt of Maestro and great aunt of Henry Arbinger and sister of Toymaker. plays games with time and clocks. maybe explains the 1508 out of sync clock. Ruby Sunday, bury, sun, day, gravestones thus cemetery in church scene, sun goddess? SU.. san/n/tekh/nday? last day of week. Cycles, ends, beginnings? Susan 'triad' magazine covers: Icon- I con (eye again) , icon, step into her world, this is when it changes......... Why the Triad Susan could be the Susan Foreman Susan- a triad of reasons Mel says if it is her she could be key, the Doctors says I think She's part of this, final ep description 'the doctor has lost and evil reigns supreme. One woman holds the key to saving creation.' But I think the TARDIS is trying to help too, maybe from its memories of true time.....

Mrs Flood being a totally new character would be so boring. I want her to be someone we have already met.

She's not ruby lol. We've already seen an old ruby in 73 yards.

My theory Recast Dodo Former companion Resembles Susan(fitting that in) Was in the Toymaker's first appearance Another theory Flood->water->land->water in field->waterfield->past companion->stayed in 60s Potentially a recast Victoria

@peggyerickson2549

6 күн бұрын

Heather,.that Bill met?

could be the doctors daughter the one from david tennant era? she went off in to space looking for him? or river long night 24 years of hanky panky!

As the last episode is still in the future for me I'm going to share some theories I ran out of time for sharing before I find out if I'm right or wrong by watching it. Floods- destruction so possibly part of a link to Sutekh's destructive forces. or re Nile etc can also bring fertility/life. Perhaps wash sand away/ refresh desert? (sand of desert is dried out so waters of life kinda link vs Sutekh's sandy death?) Someone else commented is this relevant- Ruby- snowstorms (I thought she creates these from memory, also I wondered if any link to the snow in the place Christmas in Who lore), I also thought snow of fuzziness of video tape (maybe it came from that due to time window lol) and fuzziness of other things like 'mother' figure and distant woman in '73 Yards', Sutekh sandstorm, flood rainstorm? I note that The Doctor has been called both the oncoming storm and the destroyer of worlds a few times, so re this and also linking to the beast there could be a duality element at play of the good and bad in all of us - there are many hints this series of people being either nice or nasty and some flips of time happening, so what if we see different sides of key characters, cruel or kind, depending on which way the switches of time have been flipped at a particular moment. This could imply even where we don't see such flips maybe there is one, so maybe the cruel character in Dot and Bubble is only cruel because someone or something has flipped the switches, pulled different strings (puppetmaster clue of The Giggle and strings of various episodes) to manipulate them along that timeline thus that outcome. think about the people rejecting Ruby for example (very much a SJA Trickster et al overlap too) 4 on blue door- Susan Foreman? Foreshadow? 'We'd all like a lot of things that aren't going to happen' HAS to be important and must surely tie into, as the Doctor has confirmed, time and memories changing. This is very games of the gods, Trickster and other characters like Trickster. Her grumpiness at this time could just be how the person is, could even just be negativity over what's happening, or we are seeing the cruel 'flip' here. Before the flood, 4th wall breaks i've mentioned before also has fisher king linked to ghosts and ruby- bury, fisher king killed by flood is also a not very relevant unless it is viral species the flood in The Waters of Mars. I wonder if Ruby is ghost or linked to dead or looking after the dead. Mrs Flood may tie in to this if so.

I think she is Incensor, the god of disaster as she rolls a storm in as she says “a storm is coming in”

Romana. She even wears the same fluffy white coat in one scene that she had in her first incarnation with the Doctor. She probably has a fob watch stashed in her room.

Isis Egyptian goddess Responsible for the annual Flood of the Nile Opponent of Set/Sutekh

@TheCagedCorvid

10 күн бұрын

Oh I hope it's this, I love Egyptian mythology

@scotthewitt258

10 күн бұрын

And, she could have been the one to deliver the Ruby to the church. Which would make Ruby the Eye of Horus incarnate. The remaining Gods knew Sutekh was about to escape Eternity.

@TheCagedCorvid

10 күн бұрын

@scotthewitt258 at this point, if it's not this I'm going to be a little bit disappointed

@scotthewitt258

10 күн бұрын

@@TheCagedCorvid I came up with it being Susan long before the Sutekh storyline resolved, so it could be someone Horus sent to deliver his Eye, which is a Ruby, after all. But, I still want it to Susan! The theory she was "Arched" and opened her watch between the first and second time she saw the Tardis makes it make sense. She did not know it at first, then broke the fourth wall the second time to identify Idris as the ship SHE named so long ago.....

@ianmiller6449

10 күн бұрын

If you look into the egyptian pantheon, Isis was goddess of fertility. The goddess of the annual flood of the Nile was a goddess called 'Hapi'. If Mrs Flood is anyone related to Sutekh/Set, it'll be Hapi