MrMuffin of MrMuffin'sTrains discusses laying & wiring track

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The Muffins own and operate a large public layout and shows their collection in Atlanta, Indiana. Here he offers his opinions on laying track and wiring it for operation in command control.

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  • @crowznest438
    @crowznest43810 күн бұрын

    Thank you for such a detailed explanation!

  • @jimconnelly816
    @jimconnelly816 Жыл бұрын

    I like your straight forward instructions! No unnecessary procedures,

  • @realtoytrains
    @realtoytrains3 жыл бұрын

    This is GOLD!! Thank you for posting this.

  • @keithgray5525
    @keithgray55252 жыл бұрын

    These are great videos!

  • @67stingray1
    @67stingray14 жыл бұрын

    Job well done. Very helpful Mr. McMuffin.

  • @vincentvanpaepeghem4844
    @vincentvanpaepeghem48444 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I'm just getting started in the hobby. Using Atlas track. Lots of great information. Thanks for sharing!

  • @danbills7073
    @danbills70733 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Steve. I am building my first big layout - 13' x 32'. You are answering so many of the questions I have. Love to see more on building layout infrastructure (supports and top).

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help

  • @larrymoore6640
    @larrymoore66403 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I like the idea that you draw out the different wiring diagrams and how break it down.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @williamkaczmarek3996
    @williamkaczmarek39962 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. This is the first video that explained how DCC works that I could understand. Right now, all I have is 1 Lion Chief 2.0 with Bluetooth and the rest (3) are all post war conventional transformer driven engines.

  • @RonLego
    @RonLego3 жыл бұрын

    Just found your videos after reading your posts on OGR for quite some time. Very informative and understandable. Thank you. I will now have to go back and watch all of your videos.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @pony053
    @pony053 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the DCS info.....I NOW understand a couple of glitches I 've encountered. I bought all my MTH stuff from you folks...I'm in Louisville...a fun drive to see some fantastic trains...and some great advise from everyone there!

  • @robertwestreicher1924
    @robertwestreicher19243 жыл бұрын

    Holy smokes thank you so much 🙏 for video. Helps so so so much.

  • @mdphotography100
    @mdphotography1002 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for so much information. I’m learning about wiring and this is so helpful

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @larnnnz
    @larnnnz4 жыл бұрын

    such an informative video,i learned so much thankyou

  • @kenmunozatmmrrailroad6853
    @kenmunozatmmrrailroad68534 жыл бұрын

    This was extremely helpful!

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @DunbarLandFarms
    @DunbarLandFarms3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Steve, This is a great instructional video which will improve my layout for running MTH. I called Jeff today and discussed with him a few minutes. I really miss you guys and your layout since we moved to KY and now about 5 hours away instead of about 45 minutes. Will plan on getting up sometime next Spring. Btw, I love the MTH TIU with the Wi-Fi set up that I purchased from you about 3 years ago. Thanks again. Paul

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Paul....

  • @billimbriale8535
    @billimbriale85353 жыл бұрын

    Great explanations. Prefect level of detail.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @rickjeronimus3337
    @rickjeronimus33373 жыл бұрын

    I just love your video. You are very easy for me to listen to. Thanks, Rick. Ps may your drops fall short of the floor.

  • @NHseacoast
    @NHseacoast4 жыл бұрын

    Well done Steve aka Mr. Muffin. The track layout design video would be helpful. I have room For maybe 081,72 ,63. Your layout is gigantic! Your wiring ideas are simple & enlightening I always thought 3 rail was easier to wire, I’m not a fan of to many blocks.

  • @luis_ayala_134
    @luis_ayala_1343 жыл бұрын

    Your video was very helpful. I really enjoy your videos.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @stevenbullock9276
    @stevenbullock92763 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Thank you

  • @OGaugeCNR
    @OGaugeCNR4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, truly enjoy your layout, I’m currently in the process of wiring my 26x29 o scale layout and you taught me a few things. Thank you

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @OGaugeCNR

    @OGaugeCNR

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could you post a layout walk around? I’d love to see how big your layout truly is

  • @lawrencecafasso664
    @lawrencecafasso6644 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for your reply

  • @bobstrains8525
    @bobstrains85252 жыл бұрын

    Great run. Enjoyed watching your trains. I appreciate your reference to God. Keep up the good work. God is good. PTL.

  • @rennethjarrett4580
    @rennethjarrett45809 ай бұрын

    Many years ago on my first huge train set up I used Gargraves. On the whole base of the layout it had one layer of waffle wall cardboard and then one more under the track ties as kind of a raised ballast. I held it to the table plywood with pan head screws. So on the Gargraves wood tie track I would push two ties tight enough to have the screw threads fit through but not the pan head top, and that worked well, no drilling required.. I also think the Industrial Rail track will mate with Gargraves very well too.

  • @Zipidy2Da
    @Zipidy2Da7 ай бұрын

    I've been away from the hobby for a while and your video was most informative!

  • @denisesnyder1946
    @denisesnyder194611 ай бұрын

    Outstanding

  • @ILSRWY4
    @ILSRWY44 жыл бұрын

    I wire all three sides to my switches too... been doing it for years esp with MTH realtracks. I solder wire right to the side of the rails..

  • @xstugee
    @xstugee3 жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic site....so happy I found you. I have a semi-loaded question that I hope you can answer for me. I am 72 years old and would love to FINALLY bring my hope of operating an O Guage RR to fruition....Is it a little late and most importantly can I have someone build it for me as I would like, not overly detailed but something that runs smoothly and is interesting? Even if I just wanted to have the track and framework, is that something that builders like yourself would take on...THANKS.

  • @joewinings1247
    @joewinings12474 жыл бұрын

    Wiring. Some good tips. Love the Atlas track for the most for real look.

  • @gstephengoss1

    @gstephengoss1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wish I had known Atlas was a better track. But unfortunately invested in Lionel fastrack two years ago. When I setup the other room will do. It with Atlas track. If goes well maybe sell fastrack. How good are Atlas turnouts compared to Lionel turnouts? .

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're very good, but quite different....

  • @mamanbear1
    @mamanbear14 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @johnebert8326
    @johnebert83264 жыл бұрын

    Very much enjoyed re-watching this video ! I'm getting ready to expand my layout from a 6x8 table to a U-shape room about 28x18 using Lionel Super-O and Atlas O-72 switches for one line.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    That will be a terrific project - good luck!

  • @slottekninker
    @slottekninker3 жыл бұрын

    Marry Christmas from Limhamn Sweden 🇸🇪

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @tomryan943
    @tomryan9433 жыл бұрын

    OK, thanks! I should have listened to the entire video first!

  • @pancake2662
    @pancake26623 жыл бұрын

    I solve my signal interference from static ground in room tunnel issues and low-pass issues by using telephone polls an electromagnet wires for telephone lines and ground that to a ground plug into the wall. One neutral wire for the whole layout. Saying ground for what kids can understand but in the real world it's really saying neutral. So you can also use structures such as bridges that come with metal plates in the bottom you can ground those plates that helps. Between the styrene in the mountains you can put large tunnel I put a 4 x 6 sheet of metal and grounded that and that worked really well. I don't have any MTH quipment I did not wire my layout in a star I just ran one common ground. Just like you would be wiring a house a house has one common neutral

  • @tomryan943
    @tomryan9433 жыл бұрын

    How far apart is each block in the layout??

  • @diazhector1029
    @diazhector10293 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr Muffin Ièm from Canada and I have a problem with my HO loco is not respondin to control I put it in the trach but nothing happend, so what I could do to activated .Ièm using a E-Z bachmann control.

  • @Trainman0401
    @Trainman04013 жыл бұрын

    This video was extremely helpful and I thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Question.. what gauge wire do you recommend for your larger layouts and should it be stranded or solid core? Thanks again Mr. Muffin!

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    We use 14 gauge stranded wire - easier to work with - here's what we sell at the shop: mrmuffinstrains.com/products/wire-14-gauge-2-strand-price-per-foot

  • @edwarddillon6016
    @edwarddillon60163 жыл бұрын

    IJust found my answer. Thank you

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good...

  • @yvesduranceau123
    @yvesduranceau1233 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. LOts of usefull info. Thanks. When is the video on track planning coming up ?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very soon!

  • @edwarddillon6016
    @edwarddillon60163 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered some MTH ScalTrax. Are you familiar with the best way to power this track type.

  • @paulgallichio6876
    @paulgallichio68764 жыл бұрын

    The star method works the best and you can even put tmcc to the negative side of block and you got your tmcc and your dcs all hooked up in one 😀 👍

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true....

  • @plunkervillerr1529
    @plunkervillerr15292 жыл бұрын

    I love blue berry corn muffins

  • @rabbitholerailroad
    @rabbitholerailroad Жыл бұрын

    How many loops can a mth z 4000 run I have a 8x16 layout with 3 loops

  • @gstephengoss1
    @gstephengoss13 жыл бұрын

    Hope you will give more examples on running wires.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will do that....

  • @phillipsakalik4877
    @phillipsakalik48774 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy these videos! I’ve been in O scale most of my life and still learned a lot of things! Keep them coming! One question, just curious: why did you choose Gargraves for the layout extension as opposed to Atlas? Were you just looking to showcase both track systems?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes - the guys that own Ross Custom Switches are friends - so wanted to give their products a try. Good to show off both.

  • @trainguy4861
    @trainguy48613 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy your video's, I am in the process of building a Lionel tubular track layout again. I was wondering what gauge wire to use, not sure if I am going to get into Legacy trains, I only have one, but all of my engines are tinplate, thank you.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use 14 gauge stranded; if not more than 20 by 20, 16 gauge would be okay....

  • @benweers8306
    @benweers83064 жыл бұрын

    great info here i currently have a table built and track plan and trying to figure out wiring on the star wiring can you use your drop wire all the way to the terminal? or should i drop it to a terminal then to the mail mth terminal?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that would work fine, dropping the wires from the track and running all the way to the main terminal block

  • @delawarehudson2069
    @delawarehudson20694 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr. Muffin, you mentioned you attach 3 wires to all 3 rails on your Atlas switches. Do you tie together the 2 black wires (_) underneath the switch?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually, not all three..... the blacks aren't that important.... the center rails for sure - that's where the issues occur....

  • @jsgtrains3176
    @jsgtrains31764 жыл бұрын

    Really informative and would like to see more. Your website lists out 2 PH-180s one in stk and a preorder listed as 10 amp. Are both unites 10 amp?

  • @jsgtrains3176

    @jsgtrains3176

    4 жыл бұрын

    I see there is a 10 amp and 7 amp versions. What is the pro or con with either unit?

  • @plunkervillerr1529
    @plunkervillerr15292 жыл бұрын

    As a electrician , with low voltage I would use 14/2 or 14/3 romex with runs to each connection .

  • @lawrencecafasso664
    @lawrencecafasso6644 жыл бұрын

    MRMUFFIN, How do you isolate atlas track to run two trains, one around loop while other is in isolated siding? Thanks

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Atlas O makes a clear plastic track joiner to connect the center rail to insolate it.....

  • @dennisskinner2339
    @dennisskinner23394 жыл бұрын

    I want to order your homemade connector's to hookup to the lionel brick. Please leave link or site location. Thanks

  • @billfergusonpastor674
    @billfergusonpastor6743 жыл бұрын

    Will my 1948 and 1952 O scale set run on modern systems. I even have the old transformer but don't remember if it works. Will the modeern transformers work with these antique trains?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they will....

  • @chanous1
    @chanous12 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr Muffin . Do you know if it was dangerous or not to operate an WEAVER locomotive with sound with an MRC 0 / 27 270 watts AH-101 -B ??? Thank you in advance for any kind of tips .

  • @elwoodhewitt6832
    @elwoodhewitt68326 ай бұрын

    Hi Mr. muffin just moved my train layout well three years ago from New York State down eastern North Carolina. I want to try and set it back up in a 12 x 28 shed which give me about 10 x 26 area what style of electric do you recommend the drop down system not sure what it’s called but what with a Main Loop and drop downs or separate lines every 6 feet or sell. Thank you sir.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    6 ай бұрын

    I think 4-5 drops per loop would be plenty - doesn't need to be every 6 feet.... take a pair of wires from each drop down back to the central point terminal block. What we are trying to do is maintain roughly the same length out and back - the signals go out on the center rail and come back on the common....

  • @baxter3998
    @baxter39983 жыл бұрын

    Can you combine fastrack with gargraves track without special wiring just using an adapter track section.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes.... should work fine...

  • @stevenmoody4531
    @stevenmoody45313 жыл бұрын

    I just ran my trains for the first time this weekend and learned that the newer PH 180 has a pin in the cable that needs to push in for it to work. The adapter cable that I purchased didn’t push the pin in and so it wouldn’t work. The cable would work fine on the older Lionel PH 180 transformer. Not sure if the newer adapter cables to the MTH TIU are set up to solve this issue.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will have to look into that - glad you resolved it.

  • @stevenmoody4531

    @stevenmoody4531

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMuffinsTrains there was a great thread on O gauge forum with a person having this same issue and so it helped me solve mine. Interesting situation and just wondering if others may have had the same experience. Lionel should just manufacture a plug that would work for MTH even though it’s their competition.

  • @patrickmcdonald8428
    @patrickmcdonald84284 ай бұрын

    How do you connect the down wire or the drive wire to the track? I understand all the other stuff but you’re not sure how to connect it to the track with the wire going up to the train board to the track. Please explain how pat

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 ай бұрын

    What track system are you using?

  • @patrickmcdonald8428

    @patrickmcdonald8428

    Ай бұрын

    O gauge thank you pat

  • @billfergusonpastor674
    @billfergusonpastor6743 жыл бұрын

    Will any of my 1946 - 1952 3 rail trains run on any modern track? Of course it would have to be three rail. Is 3 rail still made? Will my antique track work with any of thee modern track? I have an antique O gage system.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they will... lots of choices in three rail track today, and most have connectors to connect with the older tubular track.

  • @stevenmoody4531
    @stevenmoody45313 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on where you insulate and feed wires for blocks around switches? What’s the best way to feed power around switches?

  • @mrmuffinstrains7837

    @mrmuffinstrains7837

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. If you feel you need to insulate one or more tracks after a switch, don’t do it right at the switch, but a track piece or so down the line. The wires built into the switch are a very small gauge and can get burned through so that the power doesn’t make it all the way through the switch. To avoid having to remove the switch to replace or repair it, I drop power leads at all three points on the switch and tie them together with the power or common source. That way, I know there’s power everywhere.

  • @stevenmoody4531

    @stevenmoody4531

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrmuffinstrains7837 and this doesn’t degrade the DCS signal too much?

  • @TheSalsy1
    @TheSalsy12 ай бұрын

    I am new to the hobby and considering my first layout. I want to use mainly DCS and Legacy. Does the STAR wiring technique work ok with the Lionel Legacy control system? Thank-you! You have great videos and a great web site.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, legacy works with really any wiring configuration. Just be sure you tie all the grounds together.

  • @TheSalsy1

    @TheSalsy1

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank-you.

  • @tomholz9928
    @tomholz99284 жыл бұрын

    Where is your store? Thanks for this very informative and interesting video!

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Atlanta, IN - near Indianapolis

  • @glogan9082

    @glogan9082

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tom, definitely worth the trip. Been several times. Muffins have a large layout, store with lots of trains and a nice little diner with great food and even greater desserts.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@glogan9082 Thank you

  • @Mike-pj1kv
    @Mike-pj1kv2 жыл бұрын

    The muffin man doesn't make muffins. He makes model trains!

  • @tonyarsenault4256
    @tonyarsenault42562 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised Gargraves doesn't make better rail pin to deliver power. These pins are notorious for breaking at the flimsy solder joint.

  • @westy44cal
    @westy44cal4 жыл бұрын

    So it is possible to run MTH system and legacy system in tandem? In the final part of the video that is what I gathered. Just run a wire from the ground side terminal block from each loop to your legacy unit and you are good to go ? Thanks for the great video

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, exactly..... we were doing it today......

  • @westy44cal

    @westy44cal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the fast reply! I'm just beginning to read about the modern ways to control trains. I haven't had a layout since early 90's and n gauge. Really love the o gauge though. Thanks again and really am enjoying your videos!

  • @dominicdelaurentis1574
    @dominicdelaurentis15742 жыл бұрын

    I am going to be ordering a Christmas diesel engine from u soon

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, As someone currently Living Vicariously via Youtub train people due to space / time / money concerns I Have been making a file on my computer with Future Layout design ideas. My question for you (Since I am not currently married to any given scale) is do you know any companies currently producing Canadian Steam at O? I've seen some at HO but not really at O. The trains I would want to run on any future layout would be all Steam, and all Canadian (and all currently surviving locos)so I've been asking around as my googole fu is not successful.

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    MTH has offered several steam engines in Canadian roads.... check out eBay and save a search - they will email you when one gets listed....

  • @evileyeball

    @evileyeball

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMuffinsTrains cool yeah I should add some eBay saved searches for what I want and who knows maybe a deal will come my way. Thanks for the idea

  • @paultrains2116
    @paultrains21164 жыл бұрын

    MR MCMUFFIN I GOT CONFUSED WATCHING I GUESS I.....ARE YOU RELATED TO BIG MAC ? 🍔

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are cousins.... I cam up with the special sauce

  • @michaelpontone4897
    @michaelpontone48972 ай бұрын

    Very complicated for a starter enthisiast!! Could have been a more simple presentation mcmuffin knows what he's talking about but we dont

  • @thomasschoon9451
    @thomasschoon94514 жыл бұрын

    Legacy so much easier than DCS . Why Cant MTH make there engines run on Legacy or like Lionel Legacy?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    Once you get DCS working, it works great. If we an help, let us know.

  • @benweers8306

    @benweers8306

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMuffinsTrains you can run mth with legacy cant you ? in conventional mode correct?

  • @MrMuffinsTrains

    @MrMuffinsTrains

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@benweers8306 - yes, they can run conventionally....

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