MR2 2zz Swap What does it cost?

Time to go through what it takes to do a 2zz-ge engine swap in the MR2 Spyder.
I go through the parts you need and what the cost as well as why you would want to make this swap.

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  • @Zeriel00
    @Zeriel00 Жыл бұрын

    The 1ZZ felt so disappointing at first but then I realized that it's such a good engine. It's extremely economical, low maintenance, and can last you a very long time. It's such a shame that is so under powered and doesn't seem to fit the car. I'm guessing Toyota didn't want the MR2 Spyder to de-throne the Elise/Exige since it's such an economical car with similar performance. If the MR2 Spyder came with at least 200HP, It would've been a legendary sports car.

  • @kpraz

    @kpraz

    9 ай бұрын

    yeah 200hp wouldv been perfect. would save us all the work of swapping!😂

  • @jaykingston3656

    @jaykingston3656

    9 ай бұрын

    160hp, 8300rpm, NA motor. 2000lbs. Legend.

  • @worldhello1234

    @worldhello1234

    3 ай бұрын

    It is the same engine that is in the Lotus Elise. It fits the car perfectly. It is basically a cheaper alternative to the Lotus Elise. Don't worry if you reach the 85 mph speed half a second later. I don't know what you need so much horsepower for in such a light sports car. It won't be hauling. That is for sure. 🤷‍♂

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto2 жыл бұрын

    $8,000 for a swapped MR2 Spyder? That's a deal considering what that car will be. Excited to see more videos.

  • @Fliffloff
    @Fliffloff4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to make this! Just picked up my mr2, gunna take my time but hoepfully therell be some 2zz's stil floating around when Im ready for the swap

  • @cxbra
    @cxbra7 жыл бұрын

    And just so everyone knows, YES you need the C60 transmsission also.. If you dont, the 5 speed just wont keep the engine in lift nearly as easily as it should. The trans is like $500, its a must. I have a 03 Matrix XRS with "fresh" JDM swapped 2ZZ (from a Corolla Run-X) and the 6 speed is so great. Close-ratio 1-5 with a super overdrive 6th gear, I love rowing through this gearbox!

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    Now that I am driving the MR2 I have to agree that the 6 speed is a must for all the reasons you mention.

  • @kc8omg

    @kc8omg

    6 жыл бұрын

    Where are you finding a C60 transmission for $500? Cheapest I've found in working condition is $800-$900 with higher miles (90K+), and ones with lower miles (

  • @leeroymayn9024

    @leeroymayn9024

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can use the C60 or C64 transmission which are both 6 speed

  • @jackleonard2088
    @jackleonard20885 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I Like the time you take explaining everything. Not rushed.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. It really was a great project that has become a daily driven really fun car.

  • @velocityJE
    @velocityJE5 жыл бұрын

    i love that our little mr2 spyder, pretty rare to see nowadays, still has great support like this. the forums have been a great help; haven't taken the 2zz plunge yet but it looks fun

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is a rare car and was a reason I was attracted to it. The 2zz is a project but it is worth it.

  • @littledevil1508
    @littledevil15087 жыл бұрын

    Please make this a step by step install "help" guide. I plan to do this myself soon in the future.

  • @postmortemarg

    @postmortemarg

    6 жыл бұрын

    your gonna pay him for that?

  • @14energy

    @14energy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Google it it can be found online. Look for midshiprunabout.org ;)

  • @LeoMumford

    @LeoMumford

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@postmortemarg haha exactly

  • @JO3haNsum

    @JO3haNsum

    2 жыл бұрын

    No one is ever going to hold your hand buddy, that's just the way it is

  • @OldDirtyCollector
    @OldDirtyCollector6 жыл бұрын

    This was Very helpful. Thanks for making this video!

  • @wddub9075
    @wddub90754 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting this vid together. Very helpful in figuring what to do and how much it’s going to cost. Hope you’re happy w the conversion!

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Will Worrell - Super Happy. I have a daily driver with everything working like it came from the factory and the performance is terrific. So much fun to drive.

  • @wddub9075

    @wddub9075

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!!Toyota made a misstep not equipping the car w the 2zz to begin with. As a new car option it probably would have been maybe $1500. And 15 years after production, it would be a lot cheaper and easier to swap out a rebuilt 2zz engine now.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wddub9075 If this car was built with the 2zz and 6 speed with a nice tune it would have been so much more popular. It really is the way it should have been.

  • @Limoman7
    @Limoman77 жыл бұрын

    I just did this swap, very happy got alot of parts from Monkeywrench

  • @peeairfam
    @peeairfam6 жыл бұрын

    Nice. I want to do this swap on my mr2 one day! Subscribed!

  • @richardvazquez4002
    @richardvazquez40026 жыл бұрын

    good job man!thats how u do it stack ya stuff up then build a beast by hand i did the same to my ae 86!

  • @roberthunter7060
    @roberthunter70602 жыл бұрын

    love all your videos! thanks!

  • @EEMV1988
    @EEMV19884 жыл бұрын

    Great info!!. This seems like a fun project.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fun project and really great car when it is done.

  • @brianjoyce9040
    @brianjoyce90403 жыл бұрын

    Good breakdown. All things considered, this will be worth the $$$$s. Enjoy

  • @SummitLife
    @SummitLife7 жыл бұрын

    Love It! Lots to learn!!

  • @JayKanella
    @JayKanella7 жыл бұрын

    I highly recommend the Apexi Power FC stand alone when you're in the market for a computer upgrade. I also went with PPE Engineering headers. And don't forget to swap the throttle position wires.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Power FC will be when I am ready to take it to the next level. I am sure it will be here before I know it.

  • @Joe-eg7ml
    @Joe-eg7ml5 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted to do this but got a s2 Exige S and stop pondering the thought. Maybe someday to relieve miles of the Exige.

  • @hobbyguy77
    @hobbyguy772 жыл бұрын

    Fot those looking for the rundown on costs - skip to 10:11. Short summary: 2k for the car, 2.5k for engine and transmission, 3k other parts, so 7-8k without labor.

  • @Zeriel00

    @Zeriel00

    Жыл бұрын

    2K for the car? Haha good luck with that. This entire conversion would be so expensive that it may be a better idea to just Turbo charge the 1ZZ

  • @kofi.mp4

    @kofi.mp4

    4 ай бұрын

    yea they go for minimum 10k cdn now …

  • @TheYakkis
    @TheYakkis4 жыл бұрын

    I know this old but i just picked up a Mrs.2 with a little knock. Great info, thanks

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad these are a help. That is why I did them. It is a very fun car so enjoy.

  • @TheYakkis

    @TheYakkis

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality Fun for sure. This is my fifth one. Three first gens, one second gen and now the third gen.

  • @WaitingForOblivion
    @WaitingForOblivion6 жыл бұрын

    Great videos! I’m getting close to swapping the engine myself and your videos are helpful to get some knowledge. Also trying to keep everything CARB legal which is a huge pain. Guessing you aren’t in CA since you got non-CARB header, intake, etc?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    So glad the videos are a help. I am in VA so I don't have to deal with those ridiculous CA laws. Glad I moved out of there.

  • @shinigami_gt_four
    @shinigami_gt_four7 жыл бұрын

    very good videos helped me with my swap... good lifter bolt video mine broke off when I removed it... Also Where does the vacuum line from the back of the 2ZZ... Thanks keep the videos coming

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glad the videos are a help. It is a great project.

  • @hectorguevara572
    @hectorguevara5724 жыл бұрын

    A bit late but would you reccomend getting the rebuilt engine from monkey wrench racing for about $2000 before shipping or just find a jdm importer near me?

  • @fostinator69
    @fostinator694 жыл бұрын

    How much should I look to spend in labor if I bring all parts to a mechanic? I have a 2003 matrix xrs, 2000 mr2 and a 01 gts ecu Also, is there a carb legal header? Or can I use the header from my 2zz?

  • @raymurphy3775
    @raymurphy37755 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. Very informative. I would love to do this swap. Have you any details for contacts in Japan that sell and export JDM 2ZZ engines and transmission?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    There are JDM engine importers in every city. Just do a search and you will find some near you on eBay.

  • @asice716
    @asice7167 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for making this video!!! I have a question about the exhaust. Can you put the diaper back on with the new exhaust? cause I want to get the dual out, but the diaper won't fit. just wondering will the single fit ?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    asice716 my car did not have the diaper when I got it. But looking at my exhaust I do not think it would go back on.

  • @hecks_b_rex4010
    @hecks_b_rex4010 Жыл бұрын

    How can you tell the difference from USDM to JDM 2zz?

  • @clyde2801
    @clyde28015 жыл бұрын

    Is the six speed a manual, or the semi automatic one that came with some of the original cars?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is a manual.

  • @iainmackable
    @iainmackable2 жыл бұрын

    Do the original driveshafts fit for the 6 speed box?

  • @rjallenbach1
    @rjallenbach14 жыл бұрын

    Two questions that anybody who knows can answer: 1. Is the 2zz head with the VVTC compatible with the 1zz bottom end? If so are the bottom end internals the same? 2. Can you re-sleeve a 2zz block or hone the cylinder sleeve walls?

  • @ProfessorOzone

    @ProfessorOzone

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not an expert on this, but the bore and stroke on the 2zz is different than the 1zz, so I don't think you can bolt it on. Not to mention, of course, you have the VVTL in addition to the VVTi. I think it uses oil to do that and I'm not sure where it gets that from. You cannot hone the walls because the cylinders use some funky material, but I do think they can be sleeved and Monkey Wrench Racing uses a place called Darten (sp?). Hope this helps.

  • @kelseymafia

    @kelseymafia

    2 жыл бұрын

    The engines are completely different. Almost zero shared parts. No you cannot home the cylinders in a 2zz but you can sleeve them I believe.

  • @04dram04
    @04dram046 жыл бұрын

    I think a turbo 1zz would be a better install. You would get the more power at much lower rpm

  • @callumroper7251

    @callumroper7251

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are correct. 1ZZ and 2ZZ may displace the same, but the 1ZZ has a longer stroke, aiding the low end and it's better for turbocharging as there's better low down performance before the bolt on turbo is spooled

  • @izzy031096

    @izzy031096

    2 жыл бұрын

    But then you have turbo problems.. Lag, heat, weight, cost, boost coming on mid corner etc. Most people building these cars want a track car where all of the above problems really get in the way of your goals.

  • @Zeriel00

    @Zeriel00

    Жыл бұрын

    @@izzy031096 lol all that would be a problem if you where going for some riddiculous 400HP build, but a modest 220HP would be doable and easy to manage. That's what tuning and common sense driving skills are for.

  • @izzy031096

    @izzy031096

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zeriel00 But a laggy 220hp is relatively equivalent to a responsive 190hp… So what do you really gain?

  • @kpraz

    @kpraz

    9 ай бұрын

    debating on this myself.. turbo or just a beefed up NA 1zz

  • @LSmiata
    @LSmiata7 жыл бұрын

    Exhaust is also big expense. I am try to find a kit the "exhausts" on each side of the license plate. Think it is possible...Would look so nice.....and cannot find reason why it is not offered. (would not be feasible on my MK2 that had storage space, but should be on the MK3) Please comment as you know more than me at this point in build. P

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    Monkeywrenchracing has a dual exhaust option. It is expensive. They have a header that connects to the 2zz but lets you use original parts after that so you can have more exhaust options as well. The one I chose is more expensive but is larger diameter for some more performance.

  • @littledevil1508

    @littledevil1508

    7 жыл бұрын

    make ur own? I am in the process of making my own exhuast for my mr2 2zzge swap. 2.5" all the way. And no, i am not professional

  • @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove
    @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, is there a book or manual on this swap? Second question, is this a clean swap? I mean is it a liveable engine, usable for an everyday driver?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    EMH - There is a lot of info out there but it is not consolidated which is one reason I decided to document my project. The 2zz is actually terrific as an every day. With a tuned computer it is a joy to drive.

  • @mr2spyderchronicles287
    @mr2spyderchronicles2876 жыл бұрын

    Have you had any problems with camshaft lift lobes getting worn?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not that I know of yet. That takes a lot of miles.

  • @jcskehan
    @jcskehan6 жыл бұрын

    What do I need to do before hand? I bought mine friday (sunday today) and looking at what kinds of modifications are required before the swap. So... change all the fluids, full inspection, detail the interior and exterior, gut the pre-cats, add sway bars and support struts, brakes... But other than that, what other handling requirements are needed before increasing the power?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    The only handling mod I have done so far is an under brace. If you have a 2000 to 2002 you are going to need some other bracing under the front and back. Otherwise the car handles the new engine fine. I am going to do coil overs soon and do need a front strut bar. The back brace is pretty good as is. I will do sway bars if needed after the coil overs.

  • @jcskehan

    @jcskehan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I plan on blowing like $1000 bucks in the first 6 months on stability. The rollover is real in that little thing, but yeah - it is a 2000 model.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Coil Overs or Koni's with lowering springs should be top priority. The car sits a little high on the stock suspension. There are a lot of thoughts on stiffening the car up on spyderchat so be sure to check it out.

  • @kpraz
    @kpraz9 ай бұрын

    7500 to 8k not bad.mines around that with a 1zz

  • @jorgemiguel17
    @jorgemiguel175 жыл бұрын

    Nice project, if I had a Celica 1ZZ and I Wanted to swap to 2ZZ what's the stuff there I need?? ECU...and??

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    You would need a new header for the exhaust and ecu for sure. Not sure on engine mounts for the Celica. I am probably not thinking of something but it is a pretty straightforward swap.

  • @jorgemiguel17

    @jorgemiguel17

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality thanks, your the Man.. Good Projects in a near future👍

  • @cliffordbradford8910
    @cliffordbradford89106 жыл бұрын

    $3000 for around 50% more hp is a good buy and you can take it to a dealer or any old shop for maintenance

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree. It is a really fun drive now and has even more potential.

  • @timsmith854

    @timsmith854

    5 жыл бұрын

    I achieved a 50% increase in power at the wheels in my s14 Silvia (200SX) SR20DET for $1600 AUD. Including parts, labour, dyno tune, exhaust and FMIC. please don't get me wrong, I have owned many Toyotas and Nissans and like both brands. I was just amazed at the easy power you can get from a SR20DET still running sensible boost.

  • @Zeriel00

    @Zeriel00

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timsmith854 You could do the same from the 1ZZ, I don't know why people insist on the 2ZZ because that costs a fortune and a bad mechanic could dismantle your car. A simple turbo kit would get you the power you need for much cheaper, although the 6 speed would be nice.

  • @leeroymayn9024
    @leeroymayn90245 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to do this conversion with the stock 2zz harness ?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nope. You need to use the original 1zz harness. The 2zz was never put in the back of a car so the harness is laid out all wrong.

  • @officialpennsyjoe
    @officialpennsyjoe4 жыл бұрын

    Sid the 1zz hace catylitic converter problems? I have heard about it by anothee youtuber, but he had a 2001 model. I am looking to buy an MR-S that is a 2004 year model, and I am cautious on it. It has 57'000 miles, and if I decide to buy it, I am taking it to toyota to check the converter's condition, and maybe replace it.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is the pre-cats that are the issue with these cars. Mine had 300,000 miles on the engine and it was shot. So I don't know if the pre-cats had been an issue. Getting it checked is a good idea. If they are still in the system you should be looking for oil burning.

  • @officialpennsyjoe

    @officialpennsyjoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality Is there A way that I can replace the pre-cats with something more reliable made by Toyota?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@officialpennsyjoe You just take the pre-cat material out of the pipes. Other option is new headers.

  • @officialpennsyjoe

    @officialpennsyjoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality What would be the negative effect of taking the pre-cats out?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@officialpennsyjoe The system is more free flowing, you don't get debris in your engine causing oil burning and the engine will last longer. I am not aware of it causing emission problems but that could be different in some States.

  • @christianherrero9348
    @christianherrero93486 жыл бұрын

    Would you recommend getting the MWR swap kit since you spend around 6k on swap parts?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    I got a number of parts from MWR. Most of my parts expense was the PPE exhaust and intake. You can do this for far less using more stock parts.

  • @christianherrero9348

    @christianherrero9348

    6 жыл бұрын

    hmm okay.. I found a 2zz engine 6spd and ecu close to me for about 2.5..just figured with all the extras you need the price would be about the same since they claim you only need intake and exhaust to complete the swap with the MWR kit

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    You will have to add things up. Engine, transmission, swap harness puts you at $4K before shipping from MWR. You still need intake and exhaust. Certainly saves time and some trouble.

  • @christianherrero9348

    @christianherrero9348

    6 жыл бұрын

    StarkReality okay ...still don't even have the car yet just googling right now I see one in my area for 4K "blows smoke needs a rebuild " gonna try to talk the guy down but says 4K firm lol

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a good candidate. There are so few of these cars it can be hard to find a good deal. Good luck.

  • @kmcdonnell83
    @kmcdonnell833 жыл бұрын

    I’ve lived in Japan and there is no tax on “high mileage” cars

  • @prestonbuckley756
    @prestonbuckley7565 жыл бұрын

    How much hp can a 1zz make with upgraded valve springs and turbo make is it possible that it double the hp

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Preston Buckley There are some benefits to a turbo 1zz. You can get more than 200 hp for sure. Just depends on preferences.

  • @prestonbuckley756

    @prestonbuckley756

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just by changing the value springs and turbo it that’s great that you

  • @j.chenmuas
    @j.chenmuas4 жыл бұрын

    How do you convert fwd to rwd? Knowing the celica motor is fwd!

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    For the engine itself you do not have to do anything other than use the original wiring harness. To use the 6 speed trans you do have to modify it to work in the rear. I cover everything in other videos.

  • @prestonbuckley756
    @prestonbuckley7565 жыл бұрын

    And also is there a flex fuel sensor for that engine or is there a way to wire it in

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    No flex fuel on this motor and I have no idea about adding one.

  • @prestonbuckley756

    @prestonbuckley756

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh I love to run that corn

  • @vincentngai1266
    @vincentngai12666 жыл бұрын

    Do you mind sharing which importer you used for the motor?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Japanese Engine Import - Manassas VA.

  • @vincentngai1266

    @vincentngai1266

    6 жыл бұрын

    StarkReality thanks! Looking to pick up my own 2zz soon

  • @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca5697
    @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca56974 ай бұрын

    The engine was removed from a 2001 celica 2zz and I want to put it in a 2001 celica 1zz

  • @adrianotero7963
    @adrianotero79635 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that on the video that you broke down.....your header was a monkey wrench and in this video you show the PPE......any reason for this change ?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adrian Otero No change I got the full PPE exhaust from Monkeywrench. It was one of the most expensive pieces of the project but it sure sounds good.

  • @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca5697
    @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca56974 ай бұрын

    Hello, I have a question, I bought a 2zz engine, can I use the transmission of a 1zz?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes you can

  • @cammydough3184
    @cammydough31843 жыл бұрын

    Is that an old MZ125 I spot there in that garage? Had one of those haha

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good eyes but it is a 1969 Honda 50.

  • @cammydough3184

    @cammydough3184

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality ah yes now I see it from front on, very similar tank design!

  • @xXZ31t6esTXx
    @xXZ31t6esTXx5 жыл бұрын

    What possible swap can be done to the MR 2 besides that 2zz?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    You could also do a 1zz with a turbo, very nice. Honda K series engines are popular swaps as well as the Camry V6.

  • @ottosgarage7986

    @ottosgarage7986

    5 жыл бұрын

    Audi ABZ 4.2 v8 with an A5 OB1 6 speed transmission.

  • @honda636hp
    @honda636hp5 жыл бұрын

    1zz and 2zz have same pistons?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not sure. They have different compression so they could be different.

  • @thewedge8823
    @thewedge88235 жыл бұрын

    why didn't u swap in a 3.5 V6 from a Camry?? isn't the torque/HP better?? I just looked it up it only weighs 170 pounds more than the 2ZZ

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    This was my first engine swap so I wanted to keep it as simple as possible. Plenty of parts and info available for the 2zz swap as well. I am very happy with the performance it has given.

  • @sallymorales6335

    @sallymorales6335

    5 жыл бұрын

    StarkReality my motor is blown and I want an easy swap. If you don’t mind me asking what motor did you use and did it fit or did you have to custom anything to make it fit and what about the computer did you use the same one on mr2 or did u use a different one?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    The easiest thing is to put in another 1zz. Next easiest is a 2zzge. There are also items for doing a Honda K series swap. Those are the easiest. If you want to know everything needed for the 2zz swap check out my other videos. I cover everything.

  • @evertheking
    @evertheking5 жыл бұрын

    Is this all the parts you need to do the swap?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    More or less, yes. You can get away without buying some of these items and adapting what you have and you will end up needing plenty of maintenance items but this is everything I used.

  • @atom608
    @atom608 Жыл бұрын

    Honest the C60 transmission is garbage (Coming from a 2zz celica owner) Ratio wise they are pretty good but they are just not strong. My 2nd gear started crunching now wont engage at all and my 4th gear has always had a crunch, Getting my transmision rebuilt soon. My mate with the 2zz corolla has the same 4th gear crunch and had a 2nd gear crunch when shifting at high rpms. If you go through the process of engine swapping to a 2zzge might as well open the gearbox and put some carbon syncros in there. only like $50 per gear and should only take a few hours to do if you already have the box on the floor.

  • @vuurwerkzuid7834
    @vuurwerkzuid78344 жыл бұрын

    In Europe the 1zz makes 143hp standard!

  • @truealchiemist
    @truealchiemist6 жыл бұрын

    Gonna correct you on something here. In stock form a 1zz-fe is 140hp. A 2zz-ge is 180hp in lift. That is not a 50% increase at all. It's closer to a 30% increase. Now factor in the the fact that daily driving you will spend more time out of lift than in it. Outside of lift, a 2zz-ge produces around 140hp as well. However, outside of lift the 2zz-ge has less torque than a 1zz-fe. Unless you keep it in lift you will not see any real performance increase. Now don't get me wrong, the 2zz-ge is a fun engine and a worthwhile upgrade to the MRs, just keep in mind how much it costs for it's performance. If you have a good 1zz-fe, going 2zz-ge isn't really worth it when you can just get a turbo kit from MWR for the same price as the swap and end up with more power lower down the rev range.

  • @viktorb9022

    @viktorb9022

    5 жыл бұрын

    i think he meant 50hp...

  • @jimmytran5328

    @jimmytran5328

    5 жыл бұрын

    truealchiemist .... the 2zz has higher RPM, stronger internals, easier to modify, etc. it’s overall better engine.. do you even own an MR-S or even have it swapped with a 2zz? If not then shut the fuck up, if you do then sell the car because you don’t know shit. 2zz can reach up to 400hp and the 1zz probably only 230hp before it can get fucked up or need forged internals.

  • @n116gtr

    @n116gtr

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oi Jimmy!.. Everything he said is correct so maybe you should shut the fuk up!!! And stop flexin about the 2zz you nutter

  • @realnuff1law706
    @realnuff1law7065 жыл бұрын

    If JDM the 2zz makes 195 - 198 hp👍

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have not dyno tested the car but with the intake, exhaust and custom tune in the computer I would not be surprised if it was in that ballpark. She really goes when you get on it.

  • @ProfessorOzone
    @ProfessorOzone4 жыл бұрын

    It's been 2 years. How is it running? Reliable?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    The MR2 has been super reliable and a daily driver for me and my wife. No issues and I still love to hit 5,500 rpm's and hear that exhaust.

  • @ioannislampros2786

    @ioannislampros2786

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality thanks for the vid! Nice job. I've always had an interest in Spyders but I am put off by the reliability of 1zz engines (precat incidents). Did you have issues with the 1zz before the swap?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ioannislampros2786 I bought this MR2 with 300,000 miles on the original engine. It was shot but I planned to do the swap anyways so it is what I wanted. I never really drove it with a 1zz but it clearly did alright with 300K on the odometer.

  • @MouseCIick
    @MouseCIick6 жыл бұрын

    do you recommend rebuilding the motor before putting it in the car?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    You certainly could but you will have to make that call based on the engine you get. I ended up doing more work on it than I planned but that was because of my own mistakes.

  • @drewmorg.
    @drewmorg.5 жыл бұрын

    I totally "get it", why people would do this, and seems like a cool project. But why not just buy a C5 Vette and be done with it for $9k?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    5 жыл бұрын

    The cheapest C5 Corvette in my area is $13K most are $15K and up and you are still left with a front engine corvette. The Spyder is far cheaper just slightly higher power to weight ratio, mid-engine and super unique. Don't get me wrong, I like Vette's but they can be dime a dozen and most people don't even know what the MR2 Spyder is.

  • @drewmorg.

    @drewmorg.

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality Agree on the "uniqueness" standpoint. But there are several mint high mileage C5's around me right now for under $10k. In fact one just popped up with a clean 100k miles, for $9500, looks beautiful and has blacked out Z06 wheels along with some other mods I'm sure (It's got Texas plates). A MINTY FRESH 100k mileage 2001 Z06 just popped up yesterday for only $11.5k !!!!!!

  • @drewmorg.

    @drewmorg.

    5 жыл бұрын

    @CoaCHSNiPeR They will both run forever and are both cheap to repair. It's a no brainer -- chevy LS series for the win. Especially when you factor in the LS gets the same MPG and has like 200 more hp LOL

  • @55dawg
    @55dawg7 жыл бұрын

    is the transmission out of a celica also

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    The 6 speed transmission came with the engine from a Celica GTS in Japan.

  • @55dawg

    @55dawg

    7 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @adrianotero7963

    @adrianotero7963

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality I HAVE SOURCED A JDM 2zz with a 6 spd for 21 hundred bucks....have heard that all Japanese 2zz have the 6000rpm-8250 rev limit.....so that would be one less thing to purchase.....

  • @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca5697
    @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca56974 ай бұрын

    I have another question. I don't have a computer. I can use a 1zz.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 ай бұрын

    Nope. You need a 2zz computer.

  • @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca5697

    @elhuachedesalgueromichuaca5697

    4 ай бұрын

    Okey thank you for your help

  • @gabrieltanguay6578
    @gabrieltanguay65786 жыл бұрын

    "The engine cost more than the car " wtf i can find 2zz + trans for 2.5k, and mr2 spyder cost 10k here

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    I felt very lucky to find the deal on the MR2 that I did. You have to be on Craigslist every day to find them. There was a 2002 MR2 with a bad clutch for $2,300 just a few weeks ago here. It went went fast though.

  • @gabrieltanguay6578

    @gabrieltanguay6578

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm canadien from Québec, we have like 2 of them for sale XD

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    There are not many of these around so it might be tough. Can you import one?

  • @jumuworks

    @jumuworks

    4 жыл бұрын

    i bought a 2001 here in germany for 2700 € ~ $3,060 with complete new tran and new shortblock 25k miles ago. Looking for 2zz swap now

  • @stickybonesg
    @stickybonesg7 жыл бұрын

    Do you think a shop would be able to do this for me?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. I have read of shops that even specialize in this swap and do them really fast. Check on spyderchat.com

  • @johnmann7o2
    @johnmann7o27 жыл бұрын

    This won't be far from a lotus Elise, shave off 150lbs and it'll be the same lbs/hp ratio.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mo Mare You hit on the main reason why this car is a great project

  • @04dram04

    @04dram04

    7 жыл бұрын

    Definitely need allot of chassis bracing. Elise is is so stiff, that its like its carved out of a single piece of aluminum

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    They added a lot of bracing starting in 2003 which helped a lot but more bracing is a popular upgrade and there are a lot of options. Once the car is running well I will see what it needs. So true about the Elise though.

  • @PaulWrightro23
    @PaulWrightro236 жыл бұрын

    i HAVE A 2000 IT HAS 71345 MILES ON IT

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    That is super low. I just ticked over 300,000 officially. So you have a lot of life left in it.

  • @rolldog82
    @rolldog824 жыл бұрын

    How much for a Toyota 2gr v6 engine swap?

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good question. A lot more things to work through so hard to say.

  • @KT_2006
    @KT_20063 жыл бұрын

    It is worth it ????

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the car is terrific with the 2zz. Really should have been offered originally. Once I got everything sorted it was very reliable.

  • @KT_2006

    @KT_2006

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality I have 1ZZ's Celica but....later , maybe I will be able to buy a GT86, I don't know...it is too expensive..

  • @geoffburrill9850
    @geoffburrill9850Ай бұрын

    1zz is nearer 140hp

  • @rav3r0c
    @rav3r0c4 жыл бұрын

    the 2zz swap is overrated and the engine isn't that reliable, that's why they stopped putting them in the celica, though i love the craftsmanship and the spirit, people should really look into going with the 2ar-fe swap. N/A 205whp and the engine is bulletproof.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    4 жыл бұрын

    For me it was the simplicity of the swap combined with the performance improvement. My first swap so I liked the idea it was straightforward and there was a lot of info out there. I am very happy with it.

  • @rav3r0c

    @rav3r0c

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StarkReality im not trying to hate on your build this was mainly food for thought for those looking into the 2zz swap

  • @littledevil1508
    @littledevil15087 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that the 1zz-fe engine is ok until 200,000km - afterwards its a complete trash engine with heaps of major problems. oil leaks, eating shit loads of oil, valves leaks, pistion ring sticks etc

  • @KaizenSerika

    @KaizenSerika

    7 жыл бұрын

    My factory original 1ZZ MR2 Spyder with 411,000km begs to differ. No leaks, no need to add any oil, good compression, no strange noises. I commend the original owner for the headstart. A properly maintained 1ZZ can go the distance with no issues.

  • @littledevil1508

    @littledevil1508

    7 жыл бұрын

    You are one of the lucky people. Not sure what yr model u got. But I have a 2000 model. And it's starting to break down. Going to do a 2zzge conversion

  • @KaizenSerika

    @KaizenSerika

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mine is an early 2002. The previous owner got rid of the precats very early on. It has been on synthetic oil since 50K and was meticulously maintained. I do have a spare 2ZZ laying around from my Celica with a lot of upgrades but the only reason I might do the swap eventually is for more power. I'd like to make it to 500,000km on the 1ZZ first. Probably one of the highest mileage MR2 Spyders out there.

  • @CUJOtheMASTER

    @CUJOtheMASTER

    5 жыл бұрын

    Im at 190k and its not showing any signs of wear.

  • @CUJOtheMASTER

    @CUJOtheMASTER

    5 жыл бұрын

    But its an 04 and i realised this comment is a year old

  • @vaughanlockett658
    @vaughanlockett6584 ай бұрын

    If you're going 2 zz then you are stupid not to go for lotus setup as your not gaining to much

  • @Ty5oN101
    @Ty5oN1016 жыл бұрын

    So in other words buy an s2000

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Except a 2003 S2000 costs more than $20K still and after the swap they have the same power to weight ratio.

  • @Ty5oN101

    @Ty5oN101

    6 жыл бұрын

    StarkReality I got my 2001 for 8,200 and a clean title

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you did well. I bet it is a fun car.

  • @Ty5oN101

    @Ty5oN101

    6 жыл бұрын

    StarkReality yeah it is. Better car then the spider I think except I really envy how you're 700lbs lighter! Like seriously it makes me consider trading my s2000.

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    6 жыл бұрын

    At 2,190 lbs from the factory it is a very light car. It is quite easy to drop a few more pounds and get down to 2,000. Makes for a fun little scooter.

  • @mitchsalsbury2311
    @mitchsalsbury23113 жыл бұрын

    You're wasting my time you're boring me to death I just wanted to get a price

  • @StarkReality

    @StarkReality

    3 жыл бұрын

    The cost obviously is dependent on what you choose to do. I went with some more expensive options but now have about 10k in it and it is awesome.