How is the Accord not even in the top 4? I give the other three their place, but the Passat is way out of line. Listening to the comments, 75% of why the Passat won was space. "It's roomy, it's spacious..." So is a packing crate.

Passat: "High quality materials!" Proceeds to show crappy, grey fake leather that looks like a bus seat

@matt9759

6 жыл бұрын

Direct Reply It's like Mercedes Benz Tex. Ughh

An a car enthusiast, the Mazda6 would be my choice with the Accord Sport a close second. Both can be had with a 6 speed manual if you can even find one. Not sure how the Passat won but hats fine. Some positive press is surely wanted by VW these days

@mmilner686

8 жыл бұрын

Volkswagen has paid them off! they need good press.... Honda would be my pic

@njo2994

8 жыл бұрын

Passat also comes in stick just FYI

@REPOMAN24722

8 жыл бұрын

Any evidence to back up your claims?

@mmilner686

8 жыл бұрын

PASSAT lost its manual for 2016...

@Domino81

7 жыл бұрын

vwmatt33 accord has a cvt. 👎

My top 4: 1) Toyota Camry: I drive a black 2015 XSE V6. Fantastic Car!!! 2) Mazda6: Would've checked one out if it offered a V6. Desperately needs one! 3) Hyundai Sonata: Looks beautiful especially in black, but again no V6. 4) Ford Fusion: My uncle is leasing one & he's loving it! So glad Ford is finally adding a V6 for the 2017 refresh & it's turbocharged!

I would choose Malibu. Always loyal to it and the last longer. Also Chevy makes cars that last.

@raydavies6236

4 жыл бұрын

HAHA good one

Everybody loves to hate Volkswagen. I personally like Volkswagen. They are nice cars for the money. They were BMW money I probably wouldn't like them as much. But you definitely get your money's worth with a Volkswagen.

Good luck with the Passat for reliability. Get rid of it after 3 years.

@42luke93

Жыл бұрын

The Arteon is doing good for my dad. A 2019, no issues. 25k miles. Just breaks had to change and oil. In the tailpipe though I put my finger and it was a little black. Does that mean it is burning oil or is that normal?

My opinion is that you had 3 great cars until the VW. Where is the 2016 Honda Accord? it's the best with looks, power, interior quality, safety, the list goes on...Honda all the way!

@MalamIbnMalam

6 жыл бұрын

Nick Larson lol agreed. I would have ranked them as follows: 1. Optima 2. Accord 3. Sonata 4. Malibu

@jacknabstedt3222

6 жыл бұрын

I’d have done: Legacy, Malibu, Accord, Sonata.

My Top 4 1. Mazda 6 2.Honda Accord 3. Kia Optima 4. Nissan Altima ( And I'm A Nissan Guy)

@JudgeSim2

8 жыл бұрын

we know you're a nissan guy. no one else would put the nissan in the top 5

@J.Nev.

8 жыл бұрын

+judge sim Uhhh It's Just My Opinion , But I Didn't Ask For Yours Though✌🏾️

The only mid-sized cars I'd completely avoid are the Passat and Altima. Fusion/6/Accord/Camry/Malibu/Sonata/Optima, it's really a choice of what characteristics one likes best. A bit more sporty, a bit more economical, a bit more practical, each one has its own personality.

Lmao. There is a ton of Kia/Hyundai bashing. Hyundai and Kia are among some of the best cars you can buy now. There are a lot of people on here who are still stuck in the 80s and 90s. Own one and you will see for yourself, cause I doubt most of you even own one. And I understand if you had one in the past that has had problems, but every car company has a lemon or you clearly aren’t maintaining your vehicle. If you take care of it, it will last, and that applies to every car, even though I still don’t trust GM or FCA. And yes, the Japanese make fantastic cars also. If I were to buy any car, I would get a Mazda, Hyundai, or Kia. Honda’s are not as good as they used to be imo, (I used to be a Honda fan until 2016 came around) and I’m not a big fan of Toyota bc (with the exception of the NEW Camry) I honestly think they are a bit boring. They are rock solid reliable, but not everybody, especially car enthusiasts, look for reliability alone. They look for much more. Like, safety, value for the money, and fuel economy.

@vwgolf6487

4 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. I remember when Hyndai and Kia (along with Daewoo) were considered tin-can-disposable econoboxes. I understand that these companies are now top contenders. However, some older folks like me (53 y.o.) just cannot shake that original image and still cannot imagine owning a car with one of those names on the back.

I think you are right about vw. its a very high quality and comfort car. every one should drive this car and after drive experience jadge. but I like honda more than hyundai! and of course kia is on if the best this days! thanks for video

The Accord Sport is by far the best IMO. Honda reliability. Not as boring as a Toyota. The new sports look like a Mercedes E class from the outside and you can add options such a leather, moonroof, etc and still have the sticker only be 25-26k. God I love those rims.

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

bought a black one a month ago....I love it and I get A TON of compliments and folks saying...."that's an ACCORD?!"! $24,300 out the door with a moonroof installed!

Where s the Fusion, its segments 4th best seller and I think a heavily under rated machine

i love reading the comments...people really get upset over the reviews...i love motorweek...rarely do they really get it wrong and genuinly you feel the love of the reviews...car guys forever...but a car by any car is up to the owner what they like...obviously looks...the way it drives ..how it feels when u sit in it..depending on size of you..some people need a bigger car feel..some people lkike economy looks and others not so much..its all relative to the eyes of the beholder for the most part...there is some expert driver critics they offer such as numb steering and so on..but some people really need that because they are not driving around a track and lets be honest not the besst drivers..put them in a car thats too responsive and their nervous and twitchy and end up off the road...all these car companies have their issues..and like honda gets it good car publicity everywhere but ive driven the hondas before and for my preference its cardboard rigid feel seat and go cart feel was not so much to my liking..no offense honda owners...interiors...somebody make up their mind...seems the passat at #1 because of styling? i must say seems buyers were conservative all the way around...u can go back to the 90's and see similar looking interior and exterior..although materials may be better and they put a nav where the cassette player used to be...maybe its true like fashion trends ,style is trendy...and looking ahead when in 20 years they look back and say man that was ugly ...we can all giggle

C'mon judges...SERIOUSLY?! That Passat looks (and probably drives) like a 75 year old accountant drives it.

6 жыл бұрын

key word "probably" ...my guess is that you're "probably" a dumbass who's never even sat in a Passat.

@chrislopez5301

5 жыл бұрын

J O no i’ve driven plenty he’s not wrong u dipshit

Ford Fusion is a NO SHOW again?!?!? You couldn't rent one for this test?

@scionxa1968

8 жыл бұрын

what I was thinking

@ttroygotknife

7 жыл бұрын

gene978 no pay no show

@honkhonkler7732

7 жыл бұрын

The fusion is easily top 2 or 3 of all of these

@forrestearwood9146

6 жыл бұрын

go team ford :(

@Illmatic662

6 жыл бұрын

Wee they won't even be making them anymore, lol

The Honda Accord absolutely slaughters the unreliable VW Passat

@farism5313

8 жыл бұрын

i can't agree more with u

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 'Sport' this week.....LOVE this thing...and that Passat looks geriatric

@jayyoutube8790

8 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt. I had an accord. Very reliable car. Loved it

@TheVintagetamiya

8 жыл бұрын

Even thou the Honda may kill you in an accident with exploding air bag shrapnel lol

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

Cut it out! :)

I am surprised by the comments about VW reliability. I have owned a Jetta for 7 1/2 years with absolutely zero problems.

@fry.master

11 ай бұрын

vw’s fall apart after a few years

This presenter has been yelling since the 1980s ;o)

@lfsracer79

8 жыл бұрын

Well his voice was much calmer in the 80s. He got louder gradually over the years.

@JamaicanMeCrazy

8 жыл бұрын

+lfsracer79 he sounds the same to me

@David-ow9bc

6 жыл бұрын

RetroGamerVX That's because he's the best.

@mcjoh1853

6 жыл бұрын

RetroGamerVX YES

in the end style doesnt matter because most mid sized sedan buyers arent looking for swoopy lines that will be outdated in two years, Vws passat stays the same an that design proves strong.

VWs best for sure. No one can match their fit and finish at the price.

Really shocked about the exclusion of the Ford Fusion.

Best sedan is 2017-2018 Malibu premier hands down

no fusion?

@BlueNinjakoopa553

8 жыл бұрын

And no Chrysler 200?

@radudeATL

8 жыл бұрын

The Chrysler 200 is all but dead.

@aaronp5706

8 жыл бұрын

+radudeATL Hardly. They're on The Price is Right all the time. 😝

The Legacy is the best choice imho...a

I like the Malibu. I own an 08 and it has 166K on it. Still runs great. I want to get a new card but this one just won't die.

Too many bad experiences in VWs to ever consider another one. For the most part they do drive nice though.

@jamesp504

8 жыл бұрын

agreed. VW repair bills are nightmarish.

@djkenny1202

8 жыл бұрын

I have a 92 GTI. It is a great car.

@anizares1

7 жыл бұрын

Martin Smith I remember having a VW hatchback as a teen, many mechanical problems.

I guess the winner last time, sonata was too plain jane in exterior styling, but very good Passat went from 3rd to 1st place. Very roomy rear seat, and great fun to drive. But I'd swap the optima's 2nd place for the Accord or Mazda6.

@Yondaily

8 жыл бұрын

It not plain maybe in the video but it real life there's a lot going on inside simple easy to go through and the touch screen is faster than a lot of cars that I tested are slower!!!!😫

Passat has Audi like styling!!!

Honda and Mazda not in top four!? Weird, but that's ok. Maybe things have changed a lot since I test drove a bunch of these a few months back.

malibu making some serious gains in terms of quality and design, KIA as a brand has come leaps and bounds from their older times, and the passat is one of the most expensive so i can see it winning.

@coureurdebois

8 жыл бұрын

compared to the Current Fusion, Chrysler 200, Sonata, ect its leaps and bounds ahead in terms of tech, performance, and MPG results. why does that upset you?

@coureurdebois

8 жыл бұрын

also while we are at it i also forgot to mention the Malibu also comes with the one of the most powerful standard engines in its class, its one of the largest in its segment, and its one of the lightest in its segment.

@coureurdebois

8 жыл бұрын

hmmm, not sure really, for the price i would rather have a Mustang eco boost or a Camaro RS... before i get to old ;)

@coureurdebois

8 жыл бұрын

"Impala is much better value. " *its one of the best full - larger mid sized sedans for the money... but the Lacrosse is even better value, just a bit more and you get far more leather and sound dampening if you can with stand the old people stigma... also the lacrosse is far better than any sedan Lincoln currently offers* "Ford offers a 325hp V6 option with AWD. That's unmatched in this segment" *thats why its also the most expensive in the segment now, despite lack of an upgraded interior, lack of upgraded materials, and lack of upgraded interior design* *i worked for dream cars for 3 years driving everything from Focuses to Porsches so i have my opinions on these kinds of cars ;) and seeing the last gen fusions interior was one of the worst in clas (not much better than the last gen malibu) im very disappointed to see them not improve it* "Anyway... For my $, it's probably the Kia or an Accord Sport." *Mazda for days if i had to pick a mid sized sedan, design, pretty good interior, good tech, and the drivers car of the segment, kia is great value and they have improved a ton... just not my cup of tea...* have a good night :)

@TJR031

8 жыл бұрын

***** I think the redesign will help it move a few more units. Not enough to beat the Camry but maybe the Fusion. If my 2016 Volt is anything to go by Chevy is heading in the right direction.

Working for a rental company has some perks, and one of them is that I've driven almost all of these cars (havn't driven a Mazda 6 ), and I can tell you 100% that the Passat being the #1 best mid-sized sedan in this list is an absolute JOKE. As a matter of fact they are so crappy that we actively try to get rid of them whenever one gets returned to our branch because they ALWAYS have something wrong with them that requires a trip to the dealer. The only thing it has going for it is that its "fast" with the 2.0T, but that's it. As much as I hate to say this, i'd rank the Camry and Accord as the best mid-sized cars out there, but the Fusion, Malibu, Sonata, And Optima are all solid. The Altima is so so mainly because the CVT it has is just brutal. And if you need to rent and the only car left is a Chrysler 200...run.

@TheYellowSchoolBusDude

8 жыл бұрын

You clearly don't know much about VW because the Passat is powered by a 1.8T. My Jetta has been the most reliable out of the 4 cars I've had. (Subaru, Kia, Chrysler)

@jamesp504

8 жыл бұрын

You clearly don't know much about VW... they're famous for being unreliable. I had an 03 Jetta. LCD screen on the speedo burned out, rear windows didn't work, sunroof didn't work, and at 130k miles the transmission started bucking. Replaced it with an 09 Sonata V6 and everything still works, even after 7 years. Fuck Volkswagen and their overpriced pieces of shit. If you own a Jetta, I GUARANTEE you have had problems. Don't even lie.

@TheYellowSchoolBusDude

8 жыл бұрын

Passthedutch My car has had a few issues, but like I said it's been more reliable than a Kia Soul, Chrysler Sebring (What isn't) and a Subaru Outback. I've put just about 41 thousand miles on my car in 2 years and it's at 79k. We shall see what the future brings.

@kevinszhere1

8 жыл бұрын

+Anthony Cuda my Passat was a money drain, get rid of your piece of crap before it's too late

My 2015 mazda6 GT is still running strong with 100k miles not a single issue other than battery and oil changes. It handles better than any other midrange sedan.

What?? Passat #1? you gotta be kidding. that boring grill has been in that car for at least 10 years: 1.- TOYOTA CAMRY 2.- HONDA ACCORD 3.- HYUNDAI SONATA 4.- CHEVROLET MALIBU 5.- MAZDA 6 6.- VW PASSAT 7.- SUBARU LEGACY 8.- KIA OPTIMA 9.- NISSAN ALTIMA

As far as imports, give me the Subaru Legacy; it’s a far better car than the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. The Hyundai Sonata is a great second choice. I do not want a car that everyone else owns, which is the case of the Camry and Accord. The Chevrolet Malibu is an underrated car for what it is, and it’s a beautiful car that’s proven and reliable. This is NOT a “rental car” reject; its track record is excellent. I’d buy a Malibu over a Camry or Accord!

Boo, The Mazda is much better then most of those, can't understand why it's not towards the top.

@MalamIbnMalam

6 жыл бұрын

john have you even driven the other cars? What makes the Mazda the best?

@phillips3390

6 жыл бұрын

Skyactive technology, highest compression ratio , so high, that Mazda already came out with Skyactive X gas engine with no spark plugs. 100 % gas up to 70mpg. And it gets better.

Where is the Fusion? its the best selling american sedan and 4th overall....

@MitsuUltra

8 жыл бұрын

I think one Ford/Chevy on the list is quit enough don't you?

@71vwdriver

8 жыл бұрын

I was wondering that as well...

4 years later you would want to own the camry, maybe the Accord.

where is the Ford Fusion??

Great comparison. It's really inspiring how much Hyundai and Kia have improved for the past few years that sonatas and optimas would easily surpass camrys and accords. On the other hand, I find the passat's looks are dull and boring which would alone, decrown it from the first place. Nissan is disappoiting and not showing drastic improvements especially it is still dragging that CVT behind it, making it always at the back of the stack.

@HuntaKiller91

8 жыл бұрын

The optima should win it..1.6 turbo engine is a mixed balance in my opinion though

@nabilm2941

8 жыл бұрын

+crysisownz yes i think optima's warranty also gives it a decent push towards the top.

@nabilm2941

8 жыл бұрын

I had a manual Nissan and it was a one reliable badass. Nissan's CVT is simply problematic and unreliable in the long-run.

@nabilm2941

8 жыл бұрын

+megaroast I'm not predicting and this is not coming out of no where. You could just read numerous consumer reports and check out reliability lists, and you will find previous -yet not too old- Nissans being unsatisfactory when it comes to their reliability mainly due to CVTs. However, I hope Nissan will be able to work it out in the future either by letting go of the CVTs or improving them.

@jamesp504

8 жыл бұрын

not according to google. it's an unreliable piece of shit.

My top 4: 1. Honda Accord 2. Kia Optima 3. Nissan Altima 4. Chevrolet Malibu Anyone else agree?

@REPOMAN24722

8 жыл бұрын

1. VW Passat 2. Kia Optima 3. Toyota Camry 4. Chevrolet Malibu I cannot own a Honda or Mazda, their A/C is too weak for me, it is there just for decorative reasons and the reason of no altima on my list is no manual transmission and the auto is a CVT.

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

Dude seriously...you put a CAMRY in the top 5.....just stop it :-O

@REPOMAN24722

8 жыл бұрын

The camry while boring to drive like other japanese cars of today at least doesnt have a cvt and the a/c works.

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

I have the Accord Sport.....you only notice the CVT when you're TRYING to notice it. If I KNOW i need to gun it....I use the paddles and they work great! Not sure where you live, but AC performance isn't all that important to EVERYONE. Not sure just how cold folks want their interiors to be actually, but I haven't noticed it. Not to mention, in MIchigan, you need it (maybe) 60 days outta the yesr...not worth going to a Camry for that! Sorry dude, but that Camry is the car for folks who want to do NO research on their vehicle before purchasing, b/c if they DID, they prolly wouldn't buy it! Same for Corolla

@REPOMAN24722

8 жыл бұрын

I live in Australia and I need it, Honda along with mazda and euro fords have the worst a/c systems in the industry, i just came from a holiday from europe and hondas a/c couldnt even cool at 25c to 30c external temperatures, my Skoda cools even at 50c external temperatures to 16 to 18 internal. And as for cvt, i can notice straight away.

Kia and Hyundai aren't the most reliable cars, people complaining about Kia's problems everywhere. I had an Accord 2015 EXL and couldn't deal with the CVT and road and wind noise, I got a Camry 2016 and its quiet and its one of the most reliable cars as same as Lexus. And it's made in USA

Ask the Passat owner how he/she likes the car 2 years down the road. I bet they will HATE those weekly visits to the dealer for unexpected breakdown repairs.

@zachp3503

8 жыл бұрын

false, my 2014 is the best car i have owned

@bikes7777

8 жыл бұрын

+Zach P what did you own, BMW and Mercedes? then no surprise there.

@zachp3503

8 жыл бұрын

vw buddy

@bendsomemetal

8 жыл бұрын

+bikephil good joke

@bendsomemetal

8 жыл бұрын

I have a dodge Avenger with 567,000 have never had a problem with it

The VW is all about feel, driving experience, interior switches feeling much more refined and proper placement of pretty much everything. The seats, the view outside of the car.. it is TOPS. Trouble is maintenance, and repairs. Which everyone seems to bring up. A lot of you are likely the typical American that gets rid of cars by the 100 thousand mile mark, every 6 years, etc. So I am not so sure you should concern yourselves with the car's long term ownership costs? Every car, every brand will be fine through that time. I for one am not that American, I still have and love my 92 VW GTI 16v. The newer cars, particularly, VW, are very complicated. I will stick with the VW's before 1993. For new cars I will only chose Subaru. My wife just replaced the last one. Our 04 Forester never had one issue in 160k, sold above KBB. Our new 2016 mid range model was 25 grand out the door, gets over 30 mpg highway, has a big sunroof, comfy seats, and the best view out of the car. Only sold it to buy new due to the rear seat design making a rear facing car seat difficult for the front seat occupants. we would have continued to own it. This one will be with us at least 20 years. If you want value out of your cars... Keep Them.

I can't believe the Camry and the Accord didn't make the list, I am happy to see that the Hyundai Sonata did, I feel the Hyundai Sonata is a very underrated car that gets overlooked in favor of the Camry and the Accord.

I have never known anyone with a VW more than 2 years old that did not complain of it being a rolling rattle-bag of expensive troubles. Not to mention routine maintenance, which is 2x the cost of an American or Asian vehicle. VW is a triumph of savvy, demographics-driven marketing versus substance and solidity.

When I see a Hyundai and Kia on the list then I know it'll be a f*cked up list

For new cars: Malibu 2.0T/Legacy 3.6 For used: 7th Gen Accord v6

Mazda6 is very good. Too bad they don't sell us the JDM version. 2.2 SkyActiv-D 6-speed manual, and AWD.

It's amazing to me how close these new mid sized cars really are in terms of creature comforts, styling, and overall power.. They really feel much bigger than they are. Mileage is impressive and the old 4 cylinder vs V6 moniker seems less and less of a real world power problem and more of a mental problem. I have test driven every 1 of these cars except the VW and they each had very appealing features and driving attributes. Some had too many gadgets for my taste, but that's what people are looking for these days. So be it. If 1 is looking for a base model, it seems 1 must special order it.

Why all or most VW have plastic shell on the inside??

I would say the Ford Fusion it's probably the best, not the most reliable that would definitely be the Camry. The MKZ would also finish tops but it's different class however at this time you could have gotten a deeply discounted

so if you equip the Sonata to the level the kia was equipped. Would they both be in second place? thats crazy considering just a few years ago hyundai was considered cheap crap. Loving my sonata. definitely recommend it.

VW Passat of course!

VW paid for this. The car has low hp #s and MPG.

Wow, no Japanese cars in the top 4 of mid-size sedan comparison.... I am especially surprised by Honda Accord not making the top 4....

No way VW tops the list of vehicles compared, MT you are too subjective

my top cars would be Mazda 6, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Kia Optima and the Hyundai Sonata.

Hyundai & Kia's interiors are so basic laid out, I don't know how everyone's saying they look luxurious

@Yondaily

8 жыл бұрын

They are there not to luxurious but they are at least comfortable and they are easy to navigate through in my opinion it doesn't distract you while you're driving!

I'll go the the new Malibu or Ford Fusion. sure not VW ur winner cuz 1. I don't like it looks 2. don't know what scam do they have this time.

Come on MW. Where's the Fusion? I know there's a lot of cars but you gotta have the Big 5. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, and Honda. Hyundai/Kia is getting to that level.

Passat hands down !

He called the Altima stylish? Lmao. It's hands down the ugliest and worst sedan in the class.

@darrelljones4405

6 жыл бұрын

KentB27 right

Where's the Ford Fusion?

Drove a Passat in Germany last fall; liked it a lot. Suproised that it was in the price range mentioned. Would definitively rate it higher than the Camry (recently bought one for my son and one for my sister--Toyota negotiates well on price!!). I also like the Kia and Hyundis as well--no mention of the longer warranty here.

@creedawg1978

8 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind.....the European Passat is a different car altogether than the dumbed-down version we get in America...and that's what makes this comparo so much garbage! VW doesn't even give us the BEST version, and they sill voted it number 1

@jeffreyfurtado3681

6 жыл бұрын

VW wanted more sales in the USA. Therefore, the created a cheaper Passat. They stated this. VW said the car would be around $7k cheaper than the euro passat. They even built a factory in Tennessee.

The Camry could have been left out of this test. It's been ranking near the back for the last 2 designs. Yes it sells a lot, but those rental car dynamics, gutless 4cyl motor, & cheapo interior can't compare to the others here. A friend of mine, a sales manager at a Toyota dealer, told me they have to blow them out the door to get them off the lot. The Passat is looking dated, and the leatherette seats bedazzled the judges? I think the KBB test of mid sizers from last year called it the cheapest looking seats of all. Even if it's not a TDi, depreciation on VW's is awful right now. Not a good investment. The Mazda 6 is widely considered one of , if not the best looking mid size sedan and has fun to drive to go along with it's efficiency. I'm surprised it and the Legacy are considered bottom of the pack. The Malibu has had several redesigns in just the last few years and it has to, as it immediately looks dated and chintzy, and as mentioned in the test, destined for the rental car fleet. As a consumer, my top 3 would be the Accord, Legacy, and Mazda 6.

@MitsuUltra

8 жыл бұрын

I think what your not seeing is the actual mid-size sedan consumer. Yes they are looking for looks but most don't really care  about "cheap interiors". Most of them understand that by not getting the "flagship" that they are going to sacrifice some things. What they really want is reliability. YOU CAN'T LEAVE CAMRY OUT! There are people still driving Camry's from the 80's. You mean to tell me that, as ugly as they are, your going to leave a car that can last that long out of a comparison between other cars that try to compare? No sir.... If we're going off what you just said then that means that GM's Pontiac division should have owned the segment for a while because they always put EVERYTHING in the Grand Am and Grand Prix. Were they reliable though? How long did the "expensive" "good looking" material" last. Rule of thumb, (the more that comes in a car, the more will have to be replaced). As I said in my comment; There is no way a serious car buyer who will want to keep their car for more than 3 years, will go for any of the rest of the cars in this review. Camry and Accord are the lifetime. The rest  are lease and rentals.

@jeepthing98

8 жыл бұрын

Well, I agree with you on one thing, Camrys are reliable. Toyota, as a whole, is reliable. I've owned several 4Runners/Tacomas. But, I WAS that consumer 2 weeks ago, as I was looking for a great all around daily driver. I was focused on the Mazda 6, but ended up buying a 3, only because I already have a 4 door SUV at home so I didn't need so much car. I have rented a current style Camry SE twice on recent trips. I was bored and disappointed with it. And, I was being figurative, not literal when I said "it could have been left out." In other words, it's so vanilla, that there was no question that it wouldn't rank high in this comparo.

@MitsuUltra

8 жыл бұрын

+jeepthing98 maybe you should try a Chevy, dodge, or ford then. they have all the #fun and #gimmicks you'll need. its obvious that cars like the Camry aren't for you. but for those of us who can't replace our #fun every two years we get the Camry or accord.

@davidlyday7373

8 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but it seem's like you're conflating Toyota's reliability to be so great that other cars can't compare. Simply put Toyota is a reliable manufacturer but so is Mazda, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia, Honda, and Buick(It is an exceptional outlier from the rest of GM). From an empirical perspective there are a lot of very reliable brands. Mazda, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia and Honda are reliable while also making more fuel efficient, dynamic, feature filled vehicles with lower MSRP when adjusted for feature. There are a variety of vehicles out there that can compete with Toyota's reliability come in a more interesting package.

@MitsuUltra

8 жыл бұрын

+David Lyday lmmfao you play too much.. KIA and Hyundai are trash... my first car was a brand new Hyundai accent... worst car I've ever owned.

Where is the Ford Fusion?

Honda Accord is the best.

When those cars are picked over an accord or altima...something isn't right..

These results may look good on paper but at the end of the day, which cars last over ten years with no issues. Reliability is the name of the game. I'll stay with what last and not what looks good according to some car "experts" and a couple looking for a new car. And VW, I've heard too many bad stories from people who owned Jettas and Passats.

Where is fusion and 200!?

I guess reliability doesn't count lol

Is that passat based on VW latest MQB platform?

I think the vw is the ugliest in the group as are all vws, just my opinion. Reliability is questionable. Repair costs are outrageous. Oh and don't forget vw did rip off consumers with false epa ratings. Other than that, what a great choice to win.

@71vwdriver

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah and Kia also ripped off the epa as well. Honda has exploding airbags, and Chevy has never ending recalls.

@summerwestvevo1741

7 жыл бұрын

Dan Kelsey I honestly think it looks good (other Volkswagens make me wanna puke) but the reliability SUCKs!

@NWA744

7 жыл бұрын

It seems VWs are an acquired tasted or something. I personally think the Passat looks better than all the others except for the Sonata. It looks more refined and classy instead of the wanna-be sporty look of Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. Also, VW didn't rip anyone off. They still get the advertised MPG ratings, sometimes even better. The problem was that the EPA didn't like that VW basically flipped them the bird by rigging the efficiency killing emissions systems to shut off when the car wasn't being inspected.

@drewski1441

6 жыл бұрын

I have owned 3 VW's and currently drive a 2017 Jetta I have had ZERO problems. Japanese cars and thier CVT engines suck.. My second choice would be the Hyundai or Kia.

This is wrong.....turbo optima older models hit 275bhp, newer ones were about 245bhp.....now its 178? This is all crap info. (Im buying the car so i should know) even after bhp drop to whp it still doesn't hit that low bhp÷1.25=whp so that would be 196whp....their measurement was nowhere close, even if we take into account ambient temperature and air density

the Camry is the best car fellas, I dont care if u dont agree with me, Toyota cars R the Best cars American cars no bueno

Wich models are missing? Fusion and cousin Mkz, Regal? Who else?

Incredible how familiair these cars are all designed.

That Passat looks and feels old now! And, aside from the emissions scandal, the Euro-spec Passat is much better! Traditional yet modern looks, modern technology and a much better cabin!

@georanchurchill2774

4 жыл бұрын

Ray Boccino and almost twice the price. No one in USA would buy the Passat is a great value when you get it well equipped

If the VW is so good why can't they give them away and resale so bad? Discounts were massive when I checked.

The only cars here you will still see on the road 20 years from now will be the Accord, Camry and 4wd Camry aka Subaru legacy both of which come from the same factory.

Love my passat

Wait until the 2018 Toyota Camry comes out, It will reclaim the title of top midsize sedan.

Why no Fusion?

And why Volkswagen is not at the top of my list is because if feels a bit old.

Even with a redesign the Passat does not look good and is boring imitate doesn't deserve 1st place at all

@nmende00

8 жыл бұрын

It's a clean design. My company provides me with long term rentals so I have had opportunity to drive many different cars in past year. I like the simplicity of the interior controls. I am not wasting time trying to go through menu screens or search for hard to find buttons. As an everyday driver, its spacious, seats are supportive, decent trunk, reasonable fuel economy for the performance. RIde is comfortable, and handling is stable on curves without beating you up. The only reason I wlll never buy one is because it is unreliable. The manager at Enterprise complained about the cost of maintaining them. As much as I liked the Passat, the Ford Fusion SE with ecoboost beat it in every category except fuel economy, that thing is as thirsty as a 3.0 V6.

@aaronp5706

8 жыл бұрын

+John Wayne A 3.0 Ecoboost V6 in a 2016 Ford Fusion?

@nmende00

8 жыл бұрын

Aaron P No, what i mean is that Ford and Hyundai promised V6 performance and 4 cyl fuel effiecney with their turbo 4s but the turbo four only gets me 18 city 24 highway

@aaronp5706

8 жыл бұрын

John Wayne Oh okay now I see what you mean. That's what I get for just skimming a comment. 😨

@joshua38410

6 жыл бұрын

John Wayne Volkswagen is as dated as can be. The car looks like it was made in the 1990s and hasn't changed the design in years. It's awful. Camry deserves number one and accord or Mazda for second place.

Do you really need both the Optima AND the Sonata? Aren't they the same car? You could've included a Fusion instead of one of the Korean twins. The Malibu's mpg is pathetic. It has the smallest engine yet delivers the second worst fuel economy (only the Subaru is worse, and that's because it has AWD). Subaru should offer a 2.0L FWD for better mileage. There's no way in hell VW deserves to be first. They are just not reliable, especially the 1.8T!

@BillySmith808

8 жыл бұрын

You racist!

@ladytwerk6491

8 жыл бұрын

BOY you racist! I love my Volkswagon. I was drunk driving and crashed into a parked car in the street, and man i SLAMMED into that car. And i walked away!!! Vw makes a great product.

@REPOMAN24722

8 жыл бұрын

lol Americans don't maintain their cars and then complain when it breaks, I just came back from Europe and saw so many high mileage VW's of all sorts still going without needing any work other than scheduled maintenance, ass long as you follow its service book's schedule it will be ok.

@msndotnet01

7 жыл бұрын

if Subaru offers FWD it's not a Subaru lol.

@darrelljones4405

6 жыл бұрын

bottomlayer first of all I have a 2014 sonata and it drives good and it's fast and also stylish it's suppose to be number 1

US Passat shouldn't wear a VW badge, or a Passat name. That thing is shit. The quality levels are worse than in a VW Polo (the small 3door hatchback in Europe, basically the cheapest VW). Even a Golf 7 is several steps above in terms of quality.

I like how the new Honda civic has more hp and is cheaper and still great quality

had a 2013 VW Passat TDI what a shit box so much electric problems

Camry has the UGLIEST exterior among all. Old style.

@Yondaily

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@eltonjohn3236

7 жыл бұрын

I know, but look how it sells. I guess there's a big market for boring.

@bludmakesgrassgrow

7 жыл бұрын

Asians and the elderly love the camry lmao

@idkwhyiam9440

6 жыл бұрын

lol

really? hah. the Passat ranks near the bottom according to most reviews. I'm really suprised the mazda 6 and accord didn't finish near the top. and where's the fusion?

Mazda 6!

I have driven several of these as rentals while my Acura awaits the airbag recall. In my opinion, the Passat was complete junk and way behind the times in terms of technology. Inside and out it looked and felt old. The Fusion was very nice and came with a lot of standard features, but it felt under powered, big, and only averaged 29 MPG. The Sonata is what I am currently driving and I am enjoying it. It feels smaller than it is and averages 34 MPG.

@Yondaily

8 жыл бұрын

Yes I was surprised by 2016 Hyundai Sonata mpg its almost close to my 2016 Honda Civic while it was in the shop it's a gas saver for real!!!!

Why wont Volkswagen bring the new Passat from Europe to America? That US version is lame as hell.

They should've compared the top of the line trims

what happened to fusion

You have a fucking Altima and not a Fusion?!?!

Camry or Accord for me.

@pickle30ram.75

8 жыл бұрын

Yup Altima 3rd and Mazda 6 4th