This video is like a warm blanket on a cold winter night, thanks dad..... I mean dude :,)

@roozbehfarhadi9993

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@devendra1

Жыл бұрын

😂 bro 😆🤣🤣

@lazylightning9378

Ай бұрын

facts

@sabrepulse817

Сағат бұрын

Guys clean your brake pistons. They are jammed! You're always on the brake and so much slower performance

lol, thank you for this. The novice mechanic in me was starting to panic. I love that this is delivered in the same tone that a parent or doctor uses when explaining puberty to a child.

@ethansimpson4606

2 жыл бұрын

Same!! I replaced my pads and heard more rubbing than previously scared me cuz I had no idea what to do?

@sabrepulse817

Сағат бұрын

Guys clean your brake pistons. They are jammed! You're always on the brake because and so much slower performance

my bike is doing the same thing thanks for reassuring me

@OldGuy70s

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too.., but sometimes i notice the rotor and caliper got Hot, and sometimes Not! 02 Kawi Concours 1000...

@sabrepulse817

Сағат бұрын

@hitechking your brake pistons need cleaning and pushing back in. Your bike will be so much better

Absolute gold. You are a life saver, nobody tells you what it is supposed to look/feel like, just how to fix the apparent 'problem'.

@sabrepulse817

Сағат бұрын

Clean your brake pistons. They are jammed! You're always on the brake and so much slower performance

5 years later and your video is helping me. Thank you for this I was getting worried!

Many thanks for this tidbit of information. I just changed a pair of brake pads for the first time ever and of course I started to doubt myself when I noticed the little bit of drag. Thanks to you I now know it's just the nature of the beast.

@sabrepulse817

Сағат бұрын

Clean your brake pistons. They are jammed! You're always on the brake and so much slower performance

Thanks for the video! The strange thing is that my bike was silent when I rolled it in neutral with the engine off, then it went in for its "first service." $350 later and at only 800+ miles and now I hear the skimming sound!

Thanks man. I was freaking out. I thought it was my wheel bearings in the front. Even ordered them. Might change them anyhow but for sure makes me feel better

Still learning the basics of bike maintenance but this eases my anxiety lol, thanks man

I'm more familiar with automotive brakes so hearing this was panic inducing. But now knowing this I feel soooo much better. Thanks

This made me feel much better. I spent a lot of time cleaning the rotors, callipers, etc and couldn’t get my front wheel to do a full revolution. Nice to know that what I’m experiencing is normal haha.

@DCMonster

3 жыл бұрын

Do make sure your calipers and front wheel are installed correctly. Less than a full revolution when pushed by hand isn’t as much as I’d hope for. Now it’s not going to spin forever… but my bike in this video would get a couple times around with a good hand push

@Atlastheyote222

3 жыл бұрын

@@DCMonster my front wheel spins the same as the front wheel in this video is what I was trying to say

@bc-mr1si

Жыл бұрын

@DCMonster I had a problem with the wheel not spinning freely. assumed it was sticking pistons ,brakes gummed up .cleanedthem up ,still same problem. .then I remembered I had a new tyre fitted .when putting the wheel back on I had not seated the axle correctly .Once corrected my while spins much more freely with minimal drag.

thanks for this video. im 26 years old, and have worked in professional automotive repair since i was 18. even with my very lengthy experience with disc/drum brakes and anything else you could think of, this noise would still bother me when i would roll my new bike into the garage. of course, owning it for 4 months and just been too damn lazy to investigate. Looked thru the calipers, are the pads low or grinding? Nope its good. Haha....probably should have taken a minute to look closer. seeing your bike also do it and the quick explanation is appreciated.

Thank you clarifying this. I changed my first rear tire today and noticed the pads are basically touching the disk after reinstall. I wasn’t sure if that’s how they’re supposed to be or not. The tire spins freely, no scuff sound though and rear break work perfectly well. Good to know they’re designed that ways. Thanks again.

Thank you......I have been worrying about this exact issue all day! Thank’s for putting my mind at ease. Safe riding.

This is a very good post. I recently changed my front tire and heard skimming. I had noticed the sound before but thought maybe I did something wrong putting my wheel back on. The pads are good but I was still concerned. I feel OK after watching your video. Thanks for the info!

@HiTechKing

6 жыл бұрын

so hows ur bike now? mine is showing same effects

Thanks dude, I’ve been here sitting wondering if I should take my bike out or rebuild the caliper... I’ll fix it when it’s broken 👍

@DCMonster

6 жыл бұрын

Just be sure that your retaining pin(s) are clean, as well as the sides of the pistons. Material does build up and can cause pads to hang and drag excessively. And for extra details - check out Dave Moss' videos on how to properly install a front wheel and calipers kzread.info/dash/bejne/do18uJlxpLrZYcY.htmlm51s kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6qomaeJlZPQlbw.html

@Yeah_na

6 жыл бұрын

I pulled the pistons out cleaned, lubed with brake fluid and put back in, sliding pins cleaned and greased. I’ve gone from dirt bike trim to supermoto trim using larger 320mm brake disc and using a brake caliper adapter to suit the larger disc. Riding around I can hear it at low speed and after riding for 10 minutes and checking the temp of the disc it’s not hot so that’s a good thing.

@frankiemarchese2978

5 жыл бұрын

I got the same problem with my new supermoto setup on my 05' wr450f. The bigger rotor on the front rubs quite a bit, the back wheel is fine though. Shouldnt be a problem

Thank you very much for saving my sanity. I was going crazy for this noise on my brand new SV650.

Thankyou sir for the video. I had 2 days of sleepless nights trying to create a problem which wasn't really a problem and nothing to solve. Thankyou very much.

I've always been concerned with my wheels doing this. Very reassuring that it is just normal. I'll stop worrying and enjoy riding 🙂 cheers mate.

Thank you very much for the video. I am new in motorcycle world and I have a Triumph Trident. I was thinking why front brake should make noise while brakes are not engaged. My bike has about 700 miles on it which means it is almost new. Now I know it is not a problem.

My new Goldwing is doing this which drove me bat shit--$150 service manual was no help with no explanation; never gave a damn on any of my older bikes 30 years ago, but now have OCD about everything related to my MC. Thanks again!

First of all thank you very much!!! Very helpful to know the pads will touch a bit, had me going crazy. I cleaned the calipers and all and still only get a 1/2 rotation when I spin the front wheel. And looking at your video I can clearly see the air valve at 9pm, you pushed the wheel and it stopped at 3pm, so half of rotation. That's exactly what I get. Good to know that is OK. Yes with calipers removed the front wheel spins for days.

I cleaned my cylinders and bled the system - and the dragging is slightly reduced when spinning the wheel on a stand. To get some more miles out of these pads I switched the fatter pads to the fluid input side of the calipers which tend to wear more.

On radial calipers like here,you can loosen the caliper bolts to let the calipers move a bit ,then apply brakes,they will center themselves,and tighten them back with brakes still applied.

@DCMonster

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Dave Moss does an excellent run down of that and proper front wheel installations for radial caliper bikes. All of which have been done here.

@michaelovitch

3 жыл бұрын

@@DCMonster There is some good videos on the Brock Davidson channel too,specially on brake drag reduction.

I noticed this every time i pushed my bike and earlier i installed some rim tape and though I probably should look this up.. this video is reassuring thanks heaps

Thanks a ton bro, i just bought z650rs and thats my first bike, was hell tensed hearing that hissing sound from front brakes, kudos!👍🏽👍🏽

Just realised the internet is full of ocd guys like myself asking myself question and answering it myself at the end and it is completely normal. and thanks for the answer by the way!

Thanks for that video, I just swapped my pads and been having paranoia attacks after hearing skimming!

@scottwyatt3692

5 жыл бұрын

tim hudson that’s why I’m here lol 😂

@DarrenAquilinaMwahMwahXoXo

5 жыл бұрын

Me 2 haha

Thanks a lot man, was rolling my bike around and payed attention and heard this. Wheel spins just like that. Thanks for the reassurance! I was worried. 2007 gsxr 600

i legit rebuild both my front brake callipers just because of this. i cant believe it. i was losing my mind because i thought it didnt work

@chriscs9080

3 жыл бұрын

If it does now slow down the bike it's not a problem..To test this go to a road that you don't have to use your brakes, after a few miles put your hand on the rotor , it should be cold .

Thanks man! I was hearing this on my new kx450f. I have never been so meticulous about my older bikes ( first time owning a new one) and I've been intensely hearing for any noises and this was one that slightly concerned me. Thanks again!

@DCMonster

6 жыл бұрын

Just remember - all this depends on things being in good working order. Clean pistons, retaining pins etc.

@samb.7395

Жыл бұрын

Lol same here with a kx450 5 years later

thank you so much man i got the same ocd perfectionnist like you and i was" i done everything as pro told me to do it with brand new part and its still flawless" 😤 😂😂😂

Had this experience with a brand new bike right from the dealership. Guys in the workshop explained to me that this was a normal operation for the brake system.

Best video I've seen in a while

I ordered a motorcycle online and thought it was broken already 🤣🤣🤣🤣 thank you for the education.

Thank you. Brand new to a bike and I hear this pushing it out of my garage.

Thanks for posting. Like other comments, great to see same amount of wheel spin after I just reinstalled wheel and calipers after a tire change.

A sign that your brakes are bled well..... if concerned about the "drag" issue, on bikes that have a wheel speed sensor, usually if the gap between it and the sensor plate is outta spec it's a sign your bearings are side-loaded from being not fully seated during installation. This can cause braking issues. Food for thought.

I have this on my Supermoto. I ride a 0.9km track with 19 curves. I lost my brakes las weekend (I think I boiled) after my fastest lap ever - coincidence? I'm doing the brakes again now with a major bleed and cleaning the pistons etc., but with a new wheel and new pads, I don't think I'm going to stop this rub. I get the same rotation as you. Thanks for the video man.

Glad I found this video before pulling off my front brake. Thanks😂

Thanks for the reassurance, mine spins just like yours when the wheels off the ground. Funny thing is when i have the bike on the ground it rolls like butter so im not too worried. Would be nice if it spun freely though...

@bc-mr1si

2 жыл бұрын

have you ever taken your front wheel off 🤔if you have when putting back on did you seat the axle.if not seated correctly it can cause the brakes to bind.just thought I'd throw this into the mix 👍

@frankiemarchese2978

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I did 👍 the reason they were rubbing is because I installed new pads. They spin freely now

@bc-mr1si

2 жыл бұрын

@Frankie Marchese thats good fella👍

WARNING!! I almost died tonight. I installed Probrake Tec2 levers on my new ZH2. They did not drill the hydraulic plunger holes on the steel cylinders deep enought, so when I installed the brake lever, it had too much "Preload" or "Prebrake" pressure and my pads were constantly rubbing. I forgot to spin the wheel to make sure it was rolling smoothly (like this video). I went out for a test ride and noticed the bike wouldn't accelerate as fast as usual. I was on the highway at 85mph and the front brakes instantly locked up and came to a screeching halt in the middle of the highway while traffic was swerving around me. I was almost struck about 20 times at 80mph. I could not move the bike off the freeway until the brakes cooled (10 minutes stuck in the middle of 90mph traffic). BE VERY CAREFUL that you are only getting very SLIGHT rubbing when you spin your wheel, especially when you install new brake levers. If you have to push your brake levers on too hard, they are probably rubbing your pads, and they will overheat and lock up. Locking up your front brake at 85mph on the highway, will likely cause you to wreck or be struck and killed.

@DCMonster

3 жыл бұрын

So this is bit different that what I'm talking about in my vid - but an important thing to cover, since I've seen it happen many times, and was guilty of it. Any brake lever will have an engineered amount of freeplay that it *must* have. This will be listed in places like a factory service manual, but are usually a couple mm of travel at the lever end. This freeplay is critical, as it ensures that the fluid return to the reservoir is not occluded or fully blocked. If you have too little freeplay (what you're calling too much preload) there's no place for the fluid to escape to, when hit heats and expands. That expansion pushed out the pistons, which makes more heat... repeat until you have that lock up you mention. So - it is quite possible to have everything be fine in the calipers etc, but if you mis-install a lever, or "Take out the slack" of the lever, below a critical threshold you can generate that lock up scenario

I got a Honda ct125 trail bike. First bike. Thought I had a problem. Took it on some trails for first time but it's clean. Thanks!

Would this likely be more so with new rotors and pads? Just did brakes front and back, no rubbing on the back, has the original rotor. But the front has 2 new rotors along with pads and it does rub.

Thank you, wasn't sure of that. Best wishes, take care & same to all who see this. Cheers ✌

This guy just let me sleep. It’s been 9 days

@navigator9905

2 ай бұрын

Omg ikr same

thank you so much - I recently got my first dirt bike, and I am super OCD about every noise or "issue" it has. this video saved me a lot of future time I would have never gotten back

Phew, that’s a relief to hear. I just had this happen after a pad change and I was so stumped looking for some sort of mechanism that should retract them. Thanks!

I was struggling with this over the weekend. Manual says to loosen pinch clamps on right leg and push out to get pad clearance. I did what I could but hard to do anymore with the forks resting on the stand. Have a slight noise like yours so I’ll call it good. Thanks!

Thanks! I was worried lol

Thanks, front wheel on my ‘76 BMW is draggy at rest but brakes just fine. Thank you for this video 😉

I actually very much appreciate this video

I just replaced my auto calipers and 1 of the rear wheels has this skimming sound and it halts after 1/4 round when I spin it while the other rear wheel drags much less. And I was so worried that that new caliper's piston can't retract and I had to take it to the shop. This is such a relief.

They wasn't doing this until I changed the brakes. Once I changed them it took two weeks before making noise 😂😂😂

This gives me some relief but for the life of me I can’t see how this is normal. I had bad rubbing noise and changed the brake pads and flushed the fluid out and put Brand new. The rubbing is way better than before but I still have this drag. The wheel doesn’t spin freely at all. According to this video that’s normal. When I’m riding I hear the rubbing. It’s not right. I took the calipers off and inspected the pad seatings and took the pins out and cleaned and lubed them. Still rubbing. Next I’m going to clean the pistons and if that doesn’t work I’m going to a shop and seeing what they say. I have a Honda vtx1800. My father has same and his never did this. It’s beyond aggravating.

I bought a new bike,same issue is it normal ?

Actually, the two main reasons for brake drag is either your caliper isn't aligned properly or your rotor is slightly bent or possibly both. You might want to look into it before just dismissing it. It's worth a look, no?

@DCMonster

10 ай бұрын

While I appreciate your concern, neither are the case here. I'd honed these rotors recently and check for true on a sheet of glass. A bend or warp makes a periodic noise and on this bike I'd have seen hot spots. As far as the calipers, they are properly installed for radial mounts. Bolts on finger tight, brakes pumped up and then held to the bar, then torqued to spec. Now, folks need to make sure things are in good repair, as I've commented before. But assuming things are good, you're going to still see some pad drag

I respectfully have to disagree with your conclusion. Pad to rotor drag and a scuffing noise when rotating the wheel may be "normal" but it is not a good situation. Pistons should retract enough to allow a visible gap between the pads and the rotor. If not, you will be wearing material off of the brake pads while just riding down the road. You'll notice a considerable amount of brake dust on the wheel and you'll find yourself replacing brake pads much more often. I'm a Harley guy and the MoCo is noted for doing everything on the cheap. The high end brake system on your motorcycle should be a good performer. If you have a Harley maybe not so much. Floating piston designs require regular cleanings and inspections of the mounting pins. Ditto for the pistons which should be cleaned thoroughly on every brake pd change. Also clean the pad guide pins and rails. Keep all of that well lubricated with silicone high temp grease designed for brakes. And obviously check and clean the rotors now and then. If you remove the caliper and there is still drag and a scuffing noise when rotating the wheel you most likely have a wheel bearing problem.

No one in the world could answer me but you.

Thank you man I panicked my fairly new bike I like to look after it and after helmet off and noticed it !

Nice to know my front brakes are normal. Thanks 👍

Thanks! I started to panic :)

I appreciate that I was wondering the same thing.

Like the other comments I want to thank you for putting this out here. Glad to know my minor scrapping noise is "probably" ok. She rides fine! (knock on wood).

Thank you for making this video. I heard the same noise with my new bike and started to worry

Just changed my front pads for the first time. I was so worried I did it wrong

thank u thank u thank u . just moved a bit with my disc lock on really really low speed and started hearing this noise after that and i was really worried about it . thanks ☺️😁🙏🙏🙏

I was starting to panic . Thank you 🙏

Just wondering.... how come fresh out of factory bikes have a good break lever play and the pads aren't halting the tyre rotation so quickly. My opinion.... just the way pads are inserted during servicing can make a huge difference and the life of both rotar as well as pads can be longer

@DCMonster

5 ай бұрын

ON brand new bikes (or when you have new rotors/pads) the pads have not been bedded in. This bedding/wearing in process improves braking.

Surely this will reduce the performance, increase gas consumption and slow down a low powered bike, in effect you have a binding brake.

@DCMonster

7 жыл бұрын

No, you just have a one object, the pad, making light contact with another, the rotor. When there's zero pressure in the hydraulic system there's no direct force acting on the caliper pistons, and then pad in turn. So they just happen to skim the rotor since there's no mechanism to positively pull the pads away from the rotor. By contrasts, with drum and shoes - there is a mechanism, generally springs, to pull the shoes away from the drum in the absence of a user input. With a properly maintained rotor and caliper set up, you'd have more force acting on the rotor from a pad if you were to lay it all out perpendicular to the ground and set the pad on the rotor. At least then there's the force of gravity acting on the pad against the rotor. While that skimming may have a measurable force to it, it is tiny and of little consequence in the real world. A binding brake is a very different issue

@tomturbo5296

4 жыл бұрын

Surely u are a moron

Thank you.

Is this an April fools joke? Your brake pistons are jammed so are always on 😂 no wonder you're overtaken by mopeds

thanks man, new rider here, i was worried about this

What if it’s to much after changing a wheel not resetting the brake pistons and just putting the disc into the brake pads bike rides alright brakes don’t work as good and hard to roll on flat in neutral

@DCMonster

5 ай бұрын

Then something’s wrong. Some light drag is normal. Light enough that you won’t notice when rolling the bike by hand. If you feel resistance when pushing the bike from the brakes, like they are lightly applied, something needs to be addressed immediately. Lots of drag like that can cause your brakes to generate a lot of heat which could lead to failure or locking up

Good to know. Always wondered. Tho Ford trucks i know of have a clip that actually helps to spread the pads from rotor.

You put my mind to ease, just replaced the brakes and rotors never heard this before...

Whats the difference for a bicycle? On my speed bike, the pads dont touch at all... and it brakes really tight when need it. If the wheel on a motorcycle would spin freely, you would get better mileage, better performance, and so on... so what´s the deal with this mechanism on a motorcycle? Thanks!

Thank you in 2022. I was wondering.

Thanks for this video, what i needed to hear after changing my front tyre, and cant ride my bike because its winter. and i tend to overthink things xD

Thank you

But it’s not normal for it to sqweak with every turn of the wheel is it?

@DCMonster

5 ай бұрын

It's not, so you need to investigate some more. I had a noise on a bike that happened 1x per wheel rotation, in a very specific section of the rotation. In that case, it was just some surface rust on case iron rotors that formed where the pads sat when parked. Once I figured out the source, 30 seconds with a scotch bright pad resolved that, no biggy But an irregular noise is worth investigation

You sound like Henry Cavill. Thanks for the video, I just swapped wheels and my brake was seemingly dragging but I believe it’s good to go.

@DCMonster

4 жыл бұрын

I do? Thanks.. there's way worse folks t5in the world to sound like than Superman/The Witcher. Regarding your brakes - there is a proper way to install a front wheel, and a lot of folks do get some part of it wrong. Dave Moss has a couple videos that detail installing a front wheel properly. If you have radial brakes there's an extra step or two to ensure minimum pad drag. And as always - do ensure your brakes are clean and function properly. Overly dirty brakes can bind in spots resulting in excessive pad drag.

Same for the rear wheel ? Why they done so ? If on bicycle it skimming like that I will exaust after 5min of riding )) Thanks for information

So it’s in a way normal if the rotors heat up a little? I just got a Ducati and im not used to them

@DCMonster

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. That’s how brakes work. You’re using friction to convert the kinetic energy of the bike to heat. Energy doesn’t just vanish. Rotor, when the bikes ridden hard can get very hot. Like hot enough to burn bare skin. That’s why fresh, high quality brake fluid is important for track or race applications, as some of that heat will transfer to the caliper and then fluid. Now, brakes that are poorly maintained and dragging can generate a lot of heat, even in the most mundane riding conditions/ use. So that’s why proper care, maintenance and/or installation of brake components is important

Thank you for this video mine sounds like this after replacing the brake caliper pistons, piston seals, dust seals, and clips/ springs. I bought new brake pads and discs and installed new braided hose lines. I filled with brake fluid and bled them until there was no air bubbles. It makes this noise when I spin the wheel. When I'm pushing the bike around there is a similar noise. Is this normal?

Is an ocassional gentle squeal fine as well? New bike, 800 km on the clock.

There's is no push back of piston wen you release brake lever so skimming r rubbing of pads wit disc plate happens

@DCMonster

2 жыл бұрын

Right. Exactly what I explain....

thank you!

Excellent mines doing exact same thing

thank you

Thanks a lot man

I often wondered if it was normal. To me, it's about time someone invented a better braking system. The pads should clear the rotors. The are wearing out all the while you are driving.

Thanks for the reassurance. A question though, as new brake pads wear out with use and they become thinner, will the noise decrease, since the gap between the rotors and pads has increased or there is a mechanism to keep it the same at all times?

@DCMonster

Жыл бұрын

The noise should stay the same. As the pads wear down, the pistons will extend more, and the level in your fluid reservoir will lower. That additional fluid moving from the reservoir to the fluid column that action on the pistons is the mechanism that keeps it the same

@KTJ_46

Жыл бұрын

@@DCMonster Thanks for the explanation. Will clean my calipers soon though as I feel that will help.

i can hear my front and i think only left brake is squealing when i push my bike around when the bike is off (because i cant hear it when its on) and i doubt its okay because when ive been out riding i notice my left disc is warmer. my brake lever also engages pretty damn late and engages at full strength when the lever touches my handlebar when i have the lever at its shortest setting. do you have any idea? cus im looking around and am unable to find any issue like mine. my reservoir is not above max so i doubt its too much fluid in the system.

@DCMonster

3 жыл бұрын

Based on what you said - I'd suggest you inspect and clean your calipers 1st. And inspect the pads for uneven wear as part of that. If you have dirty pistons, they won't move evenly during operation. In a worst case, the gunk can cause a piston to stick as I mention and that can lead to *excessive* rubbing which could be that source of heat. Next - it sounds like you need to flush the brake fluid. This is a basic maintenance item that should be perfomed annually or more often "my brake lever also engages pretty damn late and engages at full strength when the lever touches my handlebar when i have the lever at its shortest setting. " Not quite sure what you meant there. Brakes in good order should apply progressively. Asin a littler lever pull = little brake force. Medium pull = medium force. If there's nothing nothing nothing, then really hard brakes... that's a bad and dangerous set up. And one last thing to be familiar with properly installing a front wheel and calipers. Dave Moss has detailed videos on both areas

My bike keeps failing it's MOT for "Noisy front bearings" I've replaced the bearings and there's zero noise with the caliper off. I'm pretty sure the mechanic is failing me because he thinks the skimming brakes are the bearings.

What would it mean if only certain part of the rotor makes the skimming noise? I noticed while spinning my rear tire, where the exact same skimming noise is happening but only certain part of the rotor. Rotor looks fine and brake pad is only 2 month old.

@DCMonster

2 жыл бұрын

If it one spot/area that makes a noise, and it's that same exact spot on each rotation - that's likely a bit of a warp in the rotor.

Is the skimming noise also noticable at low speeds?

@DCMonster

4 ай бұрын

No. The noise is roughly speaking volumes or less. If you can hear it over a running engine and wind noise that’s not a good sign. Not sure of what your issue might be… but you should not near brakes except in a pretty quiet situation

@cristianorinaldo-js3qt

4 ай бұрын

@@DCMonster ohh thanks the noise is more or less same in the video but i think I'll get the brakes checked once to be on the safer side

it may touch but it doesn't have to drag. the wheel should spin freely. just check your bike.

Thanks - very useful video.

I am having the same issues looks like it’s rubbing on the actual caliber on the inside of the rotor

@DCMonster

2 жыл бұрын

Caliper? If the disc is rubbing on the caliper you have some big issues you need to address and it’s not the same as pad rub. Properly assembled, the rotor will only contact the pads and not the caliper body. So one could pull the pads, but leave the calipers mounted and there would be no contact If you’re correct that the rotor is rubbing on the caliper, you have some fixing to do