Motorcycle Brake Pad Options Explained | MC GARAGE
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Organic, semi-metallic, or sintered-which brake pads are right for your motorcycle? We’ll break it down for you in this video from the MC Garage.
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When it comes time to replace your brake pads, you’re going to be faced with a decision. What kind do you get? When it boils down to it, you have three different compounds to choose from: organic, semi-metallic, and sintered pads.
Sintered metal pads are far and away the most common, and they’re what come stock on the majority of modern streetbikes. The term sintered refers to the production process, which uses extreme heat and pressure to fuse a powdered bronze puck to the backing plate. Sintered pads offer strong bite, loads of stopping power, and excellent fade resistance, making them ideal for aggressive street and track riding. Sintered pads tend to be more expensive than semi-metallic or organic pads, but with better performance and longer life, the cost is usually worth it. Sintered pads also require a little heat to perform their best, but even so they offer the best performance and work well in a variety of conditions.
At the other end of the performance spectrum are organic brake pads. Unlike sintered pads, which are entirely metal, organic pads have very minimal metallic content. What little metal organic pads do contain is going to be non-ferrous stuff like copper, tin, or aluminum, and it’s sprinkled in there to improve wear and friction stability. The rest of the puck is a blend of rubber, glass, or aramid fiber mixed with a heat-resistant binding resin.
Organic pads are fairly soft, so they offer a gentler initial bite, lots of feel at the brake lever, they’re really quiet, and they’re exceptionally easy on rotors. They’re easy on your wallet, too, because unlike the organic eggs at the supermarket, organic brake pads are quite inexpensive. However, organic pads have a shorter service life compared to semi-metallic or sintered pads and tend to fade with aggressive use. Organic brake pads are most commonly found on older (pre-1990s) bikes, but you might slot them into the caliper on the back of your sportbike if you want gentler response.
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I followed his advice and I finally grew my own organic brake pads 😂
@molarmassz
Жыл бұрын
brake*
@docrofo2573
Жыл бұрын
What type of fertilizer did you use? I like milorganite myself…it gives you rich black soil and good yield for the pads…lmao
@ElevenRush
11 ай бұрын
Carbon is organic, he said right. Organic breakpads which basically has some amount of Carbon in them
Ari kills it again. Perfect length video for a quick explanation of pad tech.
as always, I learnt more things in a fast and fun way. thanks guys! greets from Spain, I never miss a MC Garage video :)
@V8pulley
Жыл бұрын
Grande maestro✌️✌️
Great video again! I just wish you guys would upload more often...
@siemens198195
7 жыл бұрын
That would be better, more is better in this case! (You normally did once every two weeks right? Otherwise, my bad). Awesome to be having contact with you by the way, I'm a big fan of you and Zack!
@RealDarkBlade
7 жыл бұрын
At least twice a day :)
@_droid
7 жыл бұрын
Sure, it's too bad their videos are just regurgitation of whatever you would find with a simple Google search you can do yourself. That's not to say it's all bad, it's just not based on any inherent skill or experience of the creators.
@jeffdeal4681
7 жыл бұрын
definitely!!!
@siemens198195
7 жыл бұрын
☣droid☣ 1. For me these videos are just fun, I don't even own a bike. 2. Why are you viewing them then? 3. Ari explains things a lot more clear than millions of bike 'experts' on the internet.
Great 'to the point' video again from you guys. Your stuff is always factual, to the point and no nonsense.
Thanks Motorcyclist Magazine, another super video! Beacuse being a motorcyclist is more than just watching new bike reviews.
I personally prefer organic pads. You have to change your pads more often, but they have the best feel by far and they never squeak. I pulled the centered pads off my Royal Star and installed organics and man what a difference. They are available for bikes of all size and all years, in spite of what is said in the video. My Royal Star was an 850 pound, 2005 motorcycle.
I enjoy all of your quality video's along with the knowledge you have.All well done and helpful,keep up the good work and remember to ride safe.
Definitely the best place on KZread to learn about motorcycles.
Love your work guys, keep these kinda video rolling 👍
Love the depth you talk about. Thanks for the videos!!
Simple videos but they just have the info that really isn't out there without some heavy googling. Informative stuff!
you boys must be reading my mind, was looking at pads and wondered the pros and cons of the variations, thanks
Straight forward and clear information, mc grage is a graet spot, keep it up.
Fantastic video. I always enjoy your good communication regarding specs.
This is easily the best motorcycle channel on KZread
Perfect timing on this video. I need to do my brake pads soon.
Another great video as always. I really appreciate you guys!
I've been needing this explanation. Thanks.
As always, great video and explanation guys!
Man these vids are so good. Very helpful as always.
Great video! it covers stuff that generally we overlook because lack of knowledge. you mentioned your where fond of vintage motorcycles, thats pretty big right now. it would be great if you posted a video on what to look for and what to check for when purchasing a pre 1982 motorcycle. they are very affordable but can easily be a headache if not inspected property. it would help the Hipster starter kit.
Brilliantly explained great video. Well done lads 👌
I love these kinds of videos. Keep it up
love these videos. keep up the good work!
Hey Ari, have you done a video about steering dampers yet? Love MC Garage, keep it up!
awesome video as always. Learning a lot from MC Garage. I was wondering if you could do a video on new engine break in and what's the proper way of doing it. Thanks..
Great video and very informative. Thanks!!
We need a DVD on all your mc garage with more detail. Plus a full servicing guide! Please make it happen ari
Thank you for the clear explanation.
love these videos, keep them coming pls
Always found ebc hh pads absolutely superb on the street, a great product for a reasonable price.
Interesting video, thanks. Don't often think of the different kinds of pads, I just buy what the dealer has in stock as standard for my RT.
nice video! Now I know more about those pads I put on the calipers
As always thanks for the great info
So.. Sintered HH is the way to go for a 600cc used for daily fast street riding?
@martinjames6942
6 жыл бұрын
TheSighBored I found on my ZZR12 sintered eg HH pads damage disks quickly on stock and EBC rotors so considering semi sintered. Hard braking when cold might have contributed to the damage
@pepsiboy4274
5 жыл бұрын
@@martinjames6942 which is why u need to heat it up from bmhard from the start
@wesanderson5011
3 жыл бұрын
Hh sintered is like stock or maybe slightly better. Epsa from ebc give more bite and good for street and track day. Go for those.
Great breakdown. Thanks!
Great explanation. Thank you.
Great video as usual. I live in the UK and have watched all the videos that have been aired on here by your team and look forward to more to come. I was wondering, considering the amount of people out there that when they pass their Motorcycle test will actually buy a old bike for their first purchase what are your views on Motorcycle tests being accomplished using a bike with rider aids such as abs, surely this could lead some new riders to a false sense of security and may even be the deciding factor in an accident if their budget only allows them to afford a pre abs model. Also what are the stopping differences between equivalent models with and without abs. Keep up the good work
thanks Ari - I like the idea of organic on rear to soften that response a scooch. Will try.
2piece 4piston calipers vs 4piston mono block calipers. moto gp engine prototype inline 4 Crossplane vs v4 0degree crank , 90degree crank trellis frame vs aluminum delta box vyrus m2 honda 600 vs cbr 600rr vs britten v1000 which is the best motorcycle suspension for the future Ls218 vs s1000rr 2017 carbon are electric bikes better now? can you please make these videos.
@Drunken_Hamster
5 жыл бұрын
V4 180 degree crank FTW. 0 degree/360 degree = second best. Best V-angle is about 60-65 degrees.
I have always loved organic pads for better brake modulation. Less initial bite and smoother deceleration. Sweeter in the corners. Need to swap out more often, but they're cheep and don't tear up your expensive rotors.
@diariodemotodickmann
11 ай бұрын
Imo they fade so fast they become dangerous. A few hard braking in the Twisties and you are brakeless. Scary as hell
awesome work man.. I love your videos..
Hi...would you please explain us the difference between hard break in and soft break in and also which one is preferable..it would be very helpful
Which ones are hardest on disc wear? Should discs be bead blasted when changing types of pads? Another great video. I love the new magazine format.
Thanks for the great video! I'm going to fit sinterd pads on the front brakes of my 1981 cb 900F. some people say that my discs wil wear faster with those pads than with organic pads. I can imagine so, but what are your experience's with sinterd pads on (old) discs when it comes to wear? Thanks again for the video, greetings from Holland.
Great explanation thank you.
top!! always very helpful!!!
Cheers for the video. Suggestion for another video - mono-shock vs dual-shocks.
worth noting resin/organic pads have fantastic bite from cold, and are a good choice for a commuting bike, where you brake lots but for a small amount of time, so you don't need to worry about keeping heat in them for optimal braking.
Hey ! That's my bike on the poster behind you ! :)
Woo!! Mc garage is my favorite!!
Thanks for the information.
Yet another awesome video by MC garage keep up the good work you guys rock
Thank you for doing this. I've learned so much from your videos
can you do a video for master cylinder selection, and which master cylinder will work for which bike
Great stuff guys! I would like to hear your opinion on automatic chain oilers. Are they worth it?
I know it's not popular but i got myself Organic for the first time I LOVE how they feel.
Best informed YT, nice
thank you for great videos
I nearly always run sintered on the front and organic on the rear, as well as upgrading the brake fluid from 4 to 5.1, and upgrading the lines to braided for a less squishy feel.
@epiphonesg007
7 жыл бұрын
going fril 4 to 5.1 isn't always a upgrade.
@FenrisianAle
7 жыл бұрын
4 and 5.1 are both glycol based, the only difference is that 5.1 has a higher temperature before it boils. Therefore 5.1 is a lot more tolerant of abuse. I don't see a reason not to upgrade. Besides I am a heavy #'=@]{#' and so my brakes do take a lot of abuse. :)
@oli0808
7 жыл бұрын
Biggest upgrade you can make to your bikes performance then is to cut down on your porklife mate, get some exercise lol
@FenrisianAle
7 жыл бұрын
lol true, but brake upgrades are not about performance. Three things I never skimp on on any vehicle are brakes, suspension, and tyres. I care less about making a vehicle go than I do about safely stopping it. However, I do laugh to myself when I watch people spend a fortune to lighten their bikes by a few pounds, Lithium battery over lead acid etc.. only to be more than a few pounds over weight themselves.
@T0BBi94
7 жыл бұрын
Performance doesnt just mean: "GO FAST" it could also be: "Braking-Performance". Apart from that your mindset is great, I wish more people would think like you!
It would be great if this video included something like a "Radar chart" for easy understanding of what the different pads weakness/strengths are. Otherwise really informative as always! :)
Hallo, can you explain the meaning about the size from any kind of master cylinder braking system? Such as 1/2, 11, 14 etc Thank you for your explanations, and I hope you can make a video to explain it
Ari could you make a video on sparkplug comparison
do a video on wave rotors.. thanks MC Garage
something about 2 strokes? like differences between 2t oils like mineral and synthetic. or difference between 2t and 4t engine
I generally run Organics on my two Literbikes; sintered pads seem to wear out my after-market rotors quicker. Yes... you do have to watch Organics as they'll wear a bit faster, but i feel they bite very well in wet or dry. If you're not on the track, these are quite fine.
I've been using EBC motorcycle pads, for over 4 years, for track and street. I recently had an issue with an order for pads, from a 3rd party seller, and called EBC USA to find out if there was a concern. Robert sent replacements, in time for a riding trip. First class performance, and service? I'll be recommending EBC going forward. :)
very good video.
Changed my brake pads last month only 🙂
love your videos
great job ari
Could you please create more episode about rubber brake line and braided brake line? Thank you very much.
Thank you!
Good Info !!
I wanna see stopping distances using the 3 types on a single test bike. Please upload.
I'm running metallic right now. I'm interested in extreme cold weather performance. Will ceramic pads offer any improvement in cold weather? From what I hear ceramic pads work better when warmed up.
I wonder : how can someone dislike this video???? I think they are some dysfunctional people 😉
Semi metallics can usually be had for the same price as organics in common sizes, just got a full set uf semi's on my f4I for $18 vs $50 for ebc HH
Please make a detailed video on different types of spark plugs
thanx for this video
Great stuff
@motorcyclist magazine, can you tell us something about motorcycle brake disc? Why are they so expensive and what makes the difference in price? Also, why they have holes in them? compared to brake disc's from cars?
I use the Ebc Extreme pro awesome pads
thanks
please do a video on brake clutch lag and stiffness of brake
Good Man 💪🏼
make a video on brake calipers and difference between single souble and triple pot caliper
I bought some semi metallic Galfer pads to go with my rear solid wavey Galfer disc. Advertised they had 3 grooves on the pad side but I’ve been sent ones that don’t have the grooves. Is there a difference? I originally bought my system upgrade to help with temp dissipation and old system was dead
how to change the brake pad. plz upload it. it will be very helpful.
Hi Ari, I have a 2006 KLR 650 with brand new Metzeler Tourance tires. I live in Colorado and would like to make good use of the trails when it warms up again. I am also planning a cross-country trip to Vancouver. Any brake pad recommendations? What are your thoughts on the EBC Carbon X pads? Thanks in advance!
Hi Ari, Wondering if you guys could do an MC Garage vid on why modern throttles are so darn snatchy / jerky? (Supposedly it's due to ECU maps being optimised for emissions regulations and is not just due to fuel injection). Could you also discuss in the vid whether ECU reflashes are worth it? Cheers from Australia! P.S. Your video on the Great Ocean Road was wonderful. And you were brave to put that much vegemite on a single slice of bread.
@DearMajesty
7 жыл бұрын
Yep, the Ninja 300 is actually this way. As soon as you let off the throttle even a fraction that's it...you're at full engine braking. Rolling on is not the smoothest either, but at least there's some degree of modulation.
@SydneySlowRider
7 жыл бұрын
Same experience on my Honda CB300F (my first road bike). Very annoying as I grew up on a farm riding ag bikes that had no such snatching problems... Would be good if these emissions regulations could change. It's actually quite dangerous to road newbies like me, especially when dealing with rain and tight turns at intersections in busy cities like Sydney. For me that roll-on jerkiness is the most dangerous feature of it.
@DearMajesty
7 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I've ridden the CB300F. They're not too bad. Definitely not any worse than the Ninja 300. It helps to slip the clutch for a little longer and to just pull in the clutch when coasting to a stop under like 15 mph. That can help reduce the jerkiness a lot. But I totally agree and I think it can makes things more dangerous for newer riders. I wish they'd stop doing it. On the other hand, my Triumph is very aggressive, but buttery smooth haha!
@michaelmason7591
6 жыл бұрын
My G650GS was really snatch too. Makes you miss the old carbed bikes, but my new Sportster is pretty smooth.
@filthymcnastyazz
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Mason heavier flywheel
initial bite for ebc sintered pad on my ktm rc250 is the best
Ok so it appears that sintered or semi-sintered pads are best for my 2002 Honda Shadow Spirit VT1100C. Still I am uncertain if overall which is best for my cycle. Suggestions or reasons for one or another for this cycle would be appreciated. I am thinking sintered would be closest to or equal to OEM replacement pads.
You guys rock!!!!
Is there any difference in HH racing sintered brake pads besides the ceramic backing plate? Both Galfer and EBC say their HH sintered compound is the same as their race compound but without the ceramic backing. How much does that ceramic backing really help with brake fade?
what about disc wear with all these pads and how often should brake discs be replaced?
Any chance of a test on Evans waterless coolant on new and old bikes please, public need impartial advice
I ride Triumph street triple and i want to change my brake pads. what do you guys prefer semi-metallic or sintered?
Would the noise you’re referring to be brake squeal? I have some sintered pads on the front wheel of my bike and they squeal like nothing else, I’ve never been able to work out why. This would explain it.