MotoGP - British 500cc GP - Silverstone Race 1 - 1983.
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This race was stopped after six laps,when swiss rider Peter Huber (suzuki No46),at race speed ran into the rear of touring Irish rider Norman Brown (suzuki No42) at stowe corner. Both riders died instantly.Crossed oil flag and caution flag were displayed,which meant race was stopped, which the British riders recognised as stop.But the American riders were not familiar with this flag display,because in America a red flag was displayed at Marshal points for a race to be stopped,which now happens at any racing event across the World.I was standing at Club corner and witnessed this crash,it was horrific,both riders lost their helmets.The race was rerun two hours later as a aggregate race which Kenny Roberts won overall.
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This is my childhood right there. Watching it with my late father
Thanks for the memories!!!!.. Fantastic BARRY SHEENE!!!! 🏆🏆🏆
Barry Sheene. Total gentleman, sorely missed. Top top man! RIP brother.
@boeingdriver29
5 жыл бұрын
John Pirie here, here.👍
Thank you for posting this and the explanation of what happened.
R.I.P to Norman Brown and Peter Huber, who died at that race. :/
Back in 1982 Keith Code wrote a Go Fast road racing book called, A Twist of the Wrist, where Keith offered a metaphor suggesting that, The Human brain offers a rider $10 of cognitive function, if you waste $8 on being Fearful, you're only left with $2 for going fast. When I put that statement in perspective, my mind went calm and my pace increased, cutting full seconds off my track times. I also formed a new sense of confidence that naturally moved me up front and I began winning races. I'm reminded of Codes philosophy for going fast, every time I watch Kenny. "The King" race. He's never rushed or in a hurry and he never forces himself into making an early mistake. He patently sits back letting the tires warm, evaluating the conditions of the track and the competition ..before calmly moving to the front and winning this race ...while Fast Freddy finished 2nd but eventually won the 1983 500cc MotoGP Championship.
@geoffheard5768
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best books I ever invested in. All common sense methods of training your brain to UNDERSTAND racing a motorcycle. Knowledge does make you go faster...and with less risk. Win all round in my book. Book applies to the weekend tourist road scratcher as well. Info is transferable, as it deals primarily with defeating the track/road...rather than other riders. Learning race craft, is another aspect altogether.
@michaelcheevers68
4 жыл бұрын
I remember that series of books think there were 4 in the series
@mjrydsfast
11 сағат бұрын
I attended the Keith Code school in 1997, Seattle WA. Effective.
TheMan, The Myth, The........wait for it.. LEGENDARY KENNY ROBERTS!!! Born in 58 so definitely a fan of him and his style.
Race stopped when Huber crashed into a slowing Norman Brown. Brown died instantly, Huber was airlifted to hospital and died later.
Very nostalgic viewing. I was in Woodcote grandstand for that race and remember it well.
高校の帰り、倉賀野の地味な雑貨店に何故か専門誌が置いてあって、ふと手に取ると惹き込まれて気付けばバイクに目覚めていたあの頃… バイク雑誌を全部読み漁り、この年は500ccクラスが最も熱い年で、両雄譲らず最終戦へ…って表紙を飾っていたのを今も思い出す🙁 Very Most Hot Hot Season!! Field of dreams!!!! バイクには孤独なロマンが……
I was at the race that year and watched from Copse. Usually I watched from the mighty Stowe Corner and I am glad I didn't this time. King Kenny and Fast Freddie were both brilliant.
@RT22-pb2pp
4 жыл бұрын
One of the few times you had 2 guys at that skill level at the same time, they pushed each other to the limits.
Thanks for sharing the vids 👍🏻😎
love it @ 19:50 barry just lights a ciggy as hes being interviewed and fans can get near them to ask for autographs
@geoffreycasey875
4 жыл бұрын
Joey Dunlop was that type of guy too.. 2 down to earth legends. 🍀🇮🇪
@psykat9816
4 жыл бұрын
paddock rules were very different in those days
That was a sad race that year My neighbor was killed at that grand prix his name was NORMAN BROWN a very young man.
@peterkwakman7440
4 жыл бұрын
Don't get the outcome though
@martinjefferies666
4 жыл бұрын
A very young and very talented guy he was too. It was a tragic accident and, from what I remember of what was reported at the time, one that really shouldn't have happened. No blame to either rider as far as I remember. RIP Norman and Peter
@aviationiceman9549
4 жыл бұрын
A great man and talented rider from Newry !
I was watching the race on TV that day,real sad day
I was at Stowe that day and can see the collision now with both riders flying through the air after an explosion of a collision. Norman Brown had his hand up and cruising after a bike failure but was on the racing line with the pack on his tail.
@tommasocioppa5403
2 жыл бұрын
🥀
@benjaminkenny8492
Жыл бұрын
God speed Norman and Peter.😪
Silverston was such a fast circuit!
@geoffheard5768
4 жыл бұрын
All circuits are fast Sir Pat, you only need to fuck up to realize how fast they actually are...Voice of experience.
@simoneburini4036
4 жыл бұрын
@@geoffheard5768 Silverstone back then was faster than Monza and Hockenheim
@srhendx7
Жыл бұрын
@@geoffheard5768 Silverstone was the fastest GP circuit in the world back then.
thanks!
Loved King Kenny, the main man! Good to see a young Eddie Lawson or a younger Eddie I should say
My hero Norman Brown died that day 😢
Had a laugh at Barry lighting up a smoke during the interview.
@michaelwall2304
4 жыл бұрын
habitual smoker...had a hole cut in his helmet because he couldn't go long without one.
@wilfredpeterson2679
4 жыл бұрын
haha same crackup but straight up
10:53 *The Square 4 Suzuki was indeed a formidable Machine*
@fredrich99
11 ай бұрын
At this point it was pass its age . Every one was moving to a V four configuration . I was at Skerries a few weeks before Norman Brown was killed . He won the race
な、懐かしい!片山さん走ってるし!
The knee gets put out as a guide so the rider knows how far his bike is leaned over. Many riders will slightly raise the knee just after it touches. Riders have also saved a crash by holding the bike up with their knee until they can get the front tire back under them.
@raynic1173
4 жыл бұрын
Mikecamrc, the knee touching is secondary, it's about the riders center of gravity being to the inside the bikes.
LEGEND
This is by far and above the best, most competitive and most dangerous to ride era of Grand Prix racing. And how appropriate, not if an American would win but which one.
It was just explained to you that the US riders weren't familiar with the British caution flags. And if you bothered to pay attention to the entirety of the clip, you would discover that a slowed-down Kenny Roberts was angrily gesturing at officials to put out the red flag.
Barry lights up a cigarette during an interview!!!! Awesomeness 👍🏼😎
@albertobocchio9337
3 жыл бұрын
The good old times.
@darrenparkinson4576
2 жыл бұрын
It eventually came back to bite him,in the end.
It was dreadful after Barry won 2 x 500cc World Championships that all the Japanese works manufacturers never offered him works rides, instead giving those rides to mainly the Americans and Australians…..and snubbed Barry.
19:56 completely and utterly unthinkable in this day and age!
@pachma405
7 жыл бұрын
It proved to be fatal.
@paulielacqua8834
5 жыл бұрын
Lighting up....
@6AL-4V
5 жыл бұрын
pachma No, Barry didn’t die from smoking.
@NatMart9394
3 жыл бұрын
@patchma What business is it of yours how he lived.He, we lived free back then. Look around, What's the gradual nanny state of rules, endless regulations, communist dictating what, when, where we can't do. Slowly destroying people's lives. You were called nosy cnuts back then. Mind your own fckunig business.
well more than 30 entrants in this race!
Barry Sheen, what a bloke
2:56 The guy that dies during the race.. sad (#46)
Barry Sheen. Roberts once said. The thought Barry would drill a hole in helmet. Just so he could smoke while riding.
No traction control here bro 👍
push starting a GP bike during the start. That's amazing
They dragging of their knee helps to shift the weight going into the curves to compensate for the sintrifical forces coming off the stright aways..
@thurney4343
5 жыл бұрын
Wrong! You can shift your weight without dragging a knee...it gives the rider a better feeling for lean angle. If you're going to use "big" words like centrifugal then use your spell-checker for crying out loud! Cheers!
@raynic1173
4 жыл бұрын
@@thurney4343 He's not wrong, he just not 100% correct. The first point is weight change and a secondary result was that the knee was closer to the ground. If you research how this came to be you will understand. There are interviews of Kenny Roberts describing how this, his riding style, came to be. He describes how he was coping another rider who was shifting his weight in his seat to the inside and was cornering really fast. Kenny feeling a limitation to his own style, tried the technique and noticed that it made his bike corner better. He then went further with the technique and found out that it continued to improve cornering. The fact that he got to dragging his knee was just a result of moving the weight/body position to the inside. And back in those days with the limits of tire adhesion that was about as far as the bike could go.
RIP Chris Carter
I quit watching GP, or now WSB or whatever they call it, the day they dropped 2 strokes. Those racers were the best, to take a 300 pound 150-170hp 2 stroke 500cc bike with a power band of maybe 3000 rpm with a kick of a mule, and to dance them at those speeds. Those racres were the best to ever ride at the top level. I know the racers of today are great but I doubt more than one or 2 could ride those 500cc 2 strokes as well as the greats of that era. The throttle control, the ability to steer with the throttle, amazing. A few who raced the 500 c GP bikes who moved to the 4 strokes said the 4 strokes are so much easier to control due to the power band and power delivery. To control those old 500's took the skill of a brain surgeon, maybe 3-4 could do it at the bikes limits, Roberts, Spencer Mamola, Lawson Doohan later on.. Those men in their prime could wipe the floor with rossi in his prime, no doubt in my mind.Those bikes had more hard hitting power, less suspension, less tire grip yet they rode the wheels off of them. AHH to me the best road racing ever to be seen was that era. Todays is like stock car racing, it is all about the bikes not the riders, so little real passing and side by side racing. Now the guy on the top Honda bike walks away and wins due to their bikes being the superior bike 9 out of 10 times.
@westers1514
5 жыл бұрын
Yawn, what utter bollocks you've written, you old duffer. Fast is fast, and the top riders of each era would be able to ride anything they put them on.
@Slicklickz
5 жыл бұрын
300 lbs 150-170 HP?More like 230 LBs 185-200 HP,at least just before the switch to 4 strokes.
@heydude7568
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Veitch you get the same stories from old men reminiscing about british foorball, back in e day we knew how to play blah blah, yet in this video you hear the commentator saying the fastest stretch of the race at silverstone is 160 mph but today that same stretch is probably around 220
@Fabformcatering
5 жыл бұрын
Mr Rossi was a world champion on 500 two strokes.
@Slicklickz
5 жыл бұрын
@@Fabformcatering 250 and 125 2 strokes as well.
国産単車が世界を席巻! 2輪4輪共に個性豊かなレーサーが競技を盛り上げてた♪
ce fut un duel de titans kenny roberts avait déclarer au sujet de spencer:ce gamin est invincible en short track
Vernon Cooper's finest hour, the vile, odious little man, had no regard for riders safety. considering he was Clerk of Course. The ACU in those days was run as a old boys club
@hirtac6819
10 ай бұрын
数々の悲劇からの 今ある技術
This commentator sounds like Murray Walker!
@Deniz1923
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought. %99.9 it's him.
@splash5974
4 жыл бұрын
@@Deniz1923 I thought he only did F1, but this absolutely has to be him! Maybe because the race was in Englad, he was commentating?
@nbroadsman
4 жыл бұрын
@@splash5974 Murray Walker was a motorcycle racing commentator long before he worked on F1 as was his father Graham, who was a very successful motorcycle racer including winning the Manx TT, with whom he jointly commentated early in his career. Murray also raced motorcycles.
balance and stability
Barry loved a cig
46+ civic car drivers with the huge muffler
I final understand the 'reason' for the 'GP starts'. If the engines weren't turned off while at the starting grid, everyone would have passed out, due to the fumes, lol!
@geoffheard5768
4 жыл бұрын
No, the fragrant waft would break the concentration with reverie!! The heady days of Castrol R-30...
@turbofan67
4 жыл бұрын
@@geoffheard5768 MMmmmmmm.....r30..............
How years this race and motogp
YZRの始動性が… ピットでジタンを吸ってるバリー・シーンカッコいい
Seems to have been censored.
Only 12 Rounds & must have been 40+ riders on the grid.
I have a short clip on here of Norman browns grave......titled Norman browns grave
The track officials really fucked that up that day...the riders especially the Americans didn't know wtf was going on...unreal.
centrifugal*
Sir please upload assen 1998 250cc
I loved the 500gps why don't they bring it back I guess it's cos they are 2 stroke.?
@hirtac6819
10 ай бұрын
2stとロータリーが競技車両だけでも復活したら音的には最高♪
Randy Mamola with 69 world championship points. Noice.
KATAYAMA 😃
awww Murray Walker
OMG, funniest start ever.
@HALFBREEDMUGEN
8 жыл бұрын
Its just classic racing.
@sunsetblue1759
7 жыл бұрын
That was always the pattern. Ron Haslam must have lead the first half lap in almost every GP for 10 years.
when men were men and traction contol was in your wrist NOT in the electronics like today's girls on 4 strokes
@cagednm69
5 жыл бұрын
lol Moto 2 bikes with 130hp are faster and zero electronics. Moron
@oldtimer5283
5 жыл бұрын
@@cagednm69 grow up clown...
@Fabformcatering
5 жыл бұрын
You too would want some electronics to help with the 250+BHP...
@RNCHFND
3 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@getupstairstobed
3 жыл бұрын
Hate it when blokes like you wishing it was still 1976 hate on those of today. In a motorcycle GP riders sense, todays riders are faster, fitter and have more pressure to perform. How anyone can say those men aren't "men" is beyond me
Imagine that many bikes on today's Motogp grid. Sweet to see Americans 1 2 3 4
Shambles. I apologize to American fans and riders that day. What an embarrassment that the course officials couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
Was Ron Haslam a US rider?
@RT22-pb2pp
6 жыл бұрын
British I think.
@detomasopantera1966
5 жыл бұрын
English
@sugarnads
4 жыл бұрын
Verrry english
@ajfleming254 How was he killed?
@SgvSth
4 жыл бұрын
This race.
5 dead in GPs that year.
where the hell is the crash????
@nukdawn8529
7 жыл бұрын
Hunter Brumby cesored I think
All riders including any foreigners should be briefed before racing what flag signals are to show a race stop situation nowadays all flag posts show red flags them days just Clerk of Course on startline
@westers1514
5 жыл бұрын
"foreigners" - How welcoming of you...
@raynic1173
4 жыл бұрын
@@westers1514 It's call a riders meeting and the fact that they either didn't have one or explain the flags is kind of scary. What's odd here it that Kenny and other US riders had been racing abroad for several years at this point and how the long formed ACU could drop the ball here is nuts!
@westers1514
4 жыл бұрын
@@raynic1173 What this shows is how crap the organisers were, and why the likes of Sheene and Roberts stood up to them. No argument with you intended.
@raynic1173
4 жыл бұрын
@@westers1514 could that have possible been a difference in rules with the ACU and FIM???
@westers1514
4 жыл бұрын
@@raynic1173 Maybe, or I suggest it showed the arrogance of the ACU?
locket ron!
@lMisterMeaner Huber (i think), was slowing down right in the middle of the pack because his bike stalled, an unsighted Norman Brown plowed into the back of him at a very high speed.
y the cut, wut happened
@Musicrecords10
5 жыл бұрын
Two of them died
Spencer was an interesting character. Little known fact, he wouldn’t race unless he could attend church on race day. Was also a guy that hated competing with any injuries at all.
@robjulian4148
5 жыл бұрын
Actually Spencer is at pains to point out in his autobiography that the religious nut stuff was an invention of the press. I'd bet all racers also hate competing with any injuries at all.
Hay bales???
Eddie & Kenny Freddie mamola sheene
Barry Smoking pilot, smoking bike, (laughs)
Get er bucked
MOTOGPとは表記しない。
No Respect
Love the push start.. anyway here's a novel idea let's go back to this.. we can have a separate class for it... Only the best riders will race to the top without all these electronic AIDS and tech people and a computer guy you get where I'm going let's go back to basics
3 cylindres HRC, logique, sur k LA fin HS
Stick to the sewing and gardening buddy!!!!!
honda suzuki yamaha
Back then when men were men and women were women.
I think the pushing you bike starts were almost as stupid as the running to your car starts at LeMans.
Americans used to be good at bike racing
@davidknowles3459
4 жыл бұрын
Yes,they were brought up riding Flat track bikes.So they learned to corner very well
No disrespect to the riders who were killed, but look at the "safety" barriers. Hay bales? A wall that barely covers pit lane? I know racing in the past was hazardous and there were many questionable tracks, but Silverstone is supposed to be the birthplace of motorsport. And then to top it off how disgusting it was, the Australian rider is lighting a cigarette. It's a good to know that things have improved a lot in 30 years.
@RT22-pb2pp
6 жыл бұрын
In the 70's and 80's that was racing just like car racing, safety was not like today. Riders died on a regular basis, it was just that way back then. new technology safer tracks etc make it safer today like all forms of racing. Before bashing it remember all forms of racing did not get safe over night, it took years and trial and error in safety equipment track lay out etc before it got to where riders and drivers did not die every season. It is no different than the cars for the street of that error, safety was still in its infancy. Do not bash just realize it was what it was. Look back to the 50's and 60's, half shell helmets , no leathers racing on real roads, now that was crazy but that was what happens until the sport grows and makes tracks and develops safety barriers and riding gear.
@sugarnads
4 жыл бұрын
Well arent you a judgemental fucking wanker. Perfect fucking saint are you?
@sugarnads
4 жыл бұрын
And barry sheene is ENGLISH NOT FUCKING AUSTRALIAN
@gregshea4660
4 жыл бұрын
...Mate... Barry was a Pommy but was a much loved legend in Australia..He liked a smoke but that hardly makes him disgusting. It was sad day for Australians when he died...but not from cigarettes.
@getupstairstobed
3 жыл бұрын
@@sugarnads You've just lost any right to criticise because entering a discussion like a highly abusive 10 year old will get your ramblings dismissed just like that by any self respecting adult.... F'ing this, f'ing that, and the constructive part of your comment is where?????
✌️🤠💥🌟🌀🌐 @#rolfdejonge@
Light 'em up Barry!!!!😂