The dude carrying Lemmys photo is the former tour manager for Motörhead , Mr Roche , now with Sabaton . Greetings from NWaSE Sweden

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

That is sooooo cool.

Sabaton made this a tribute to soldiers throughout history, and to Motorhead. Love that they included Phil and Mikkey. Sabaton is a class act. The cello over the credits is played by Tina Guo, she has worked with the band before.

@Templarofsteel88

Жыл бұрын

you missed one, the dude carrying Lemmy's picture is Eddie Rocha, he was Motörheads tour manager and the current one for Sabaton.

Holy Hell, this track still hits right in the feels. Bloody bullseye. I'm in love with Motörhead from the first note of their metal boogie my father played me in the mid 90's. Track was called Sacrifice. I never looked back after that. Lemmy taught me how to Rock'n'Roll, never give a fuck, be honest and respectful towards the world as much as it's possible, how to sing the blues, eat the rich, march ör die, stay clean-ish, love life... and I miss that motherfucker a lot. Although I never had the chance to meet the guy in person... Thanks for the video guys. That was spot on. \m/

@ingobordewick6480

Жыл бұрын

I met him once at the Rainbow, where else. LOL It was great talking with him. Because he was really listening and talking honest from the heart. I loved him even more after that half hour we had. RIP Legend!

Great idea to do the double! I cried, again - I don't see it stopping any time soon. [I hope you'll forgive a pasted comment, it took me a while to write the first time.] I saw Sabaton perform this live in Leeds on the first night of the current tour, and it was so emotional. So let's raise a few glasses: to Birmingham, birthplace of metal; to Lemmy (RIP); to Sabaton; and to those who sacrificed so much. My wife's grandfather was one of those who lied about his age - he was only _14_ when he went to the Front! He got out alive, thanks to some amazing luck: he was wounded and taken to a field hospital, and his own father was there at the same time. He swore a lot when he saw his son, then wrote to his wife back home explaining the situation. She in turn sent evidence of their boy's age to the War Office and they pulled him out. After he came home he never spoke to anyone in the family about his experiences. Greetings from South Yorkshire - Lest We Forget.

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John!!! Take care and thanks for the notes. Cheers alex

@ingobordewick6480

7 ай бұрын

My grandfather was forced to fight for a dictatorship he didn't agreed with in WW2. He was one of the few who survived the battle of Stalingrad and came home after the imprisonment in Russia. He was a changed man. I only knew him as a broken man who woke up screaming in the night. When I see pictures of him as a proud, strong, young man, I can't put these two together as one person. RIP granddad!

@elvwood

7 ай бұрын

@@ingobordewick6480 so sorry to hear that - so many good people have been deeply damaged by war. Sending virtual hugs, and raising a glass to your grandfather and all the others in a similar tragic position.

@ingobordewick6480

7 ай бұрын

Cheers!!! @@elvwood

Two vastly different arrangements of the song, but both epic and moving tributes to those who fought and died for their homelands. The fact that warriors throughout history will march off to fight and often die for what they believe in shows both the horror and allure of war. Sabaton created a fitting and unforgettable tribute to both Lemmy and the warriors who did what they felt needed to be done. RIP Lemmy and all those who made the ultimate sacrifice. You are missed and appreciated.

It was great - and incredibly sad - to listen to both versions. I love your B-B-Bonus episodes more and more. They always add great insights. I didn’t know that was Lemmy’s song. I respect him even more now.

I think the fact that you put the versions after each other like this is absolutely perfect. It hits even harder. The spectrum of emotions put through by the different versions are quite different and i believe that the complement each other for an even better experience. If you listen to the Motörhead version, and listen to Lemmy's voice, and how weak (not in a bad sense) it is, you hear the voice of someone tormented by sadness and despair. Highy suitable emotions for what the song is about. Add Sabaton and Joakim on top of that, which much more power in his voice and the songs more powerful sound in general... It is almost like they are pointing to what Lemmy wrote and underlining the message of his words with a "Get it through your thick skulls, what war does to people, and how absolutely horrific it is!" kind of meaning. One thing that struck me when hearing them back to back was the strings. You can hear them as a solo on the Motörhead version, and as a whole segment after the main song in the Sabaton version. Another way, aside from Mickey and Phil, Lemmy's portrait, and the texts afterwards, to pay homage and respect to the original I'd say. Personally, I think that these two songs together are some of the greatest pieces of music ever written and performed.

Sabaton is one of those bands who deserves so much bigger an audience and may yet find it just, like the decades that Rammstein took until they clawed out a support base in the anglosphere and the francophonie (I may have ruined this but I didn't want to anglicise it obviously). They are utterly brilliant, and have a fanatical commitment to history, best seen by them as their audience being interactive to emotions that are buried from us only seeing a mere fraction of the past hurts of our past wars.

The guy holding Lemmy's picture is Eddie Rocha, he is the current Tour Manager for Sabaton, but he was also the Tour Manager for Motörhead.

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

Thats cool - I didn't know that

Great stuff, gotta love Lemmy and of course Sabaton doing what they do best. Very sad and tragic subject matter. My paternal grandfather fought in the Battle of the Somme among others, he managed to survive the entire war but lost his brother at the Battle of Vimy Ridge.

both songs were very well done. The scary part is the number of soldiers who drowned rivaled the numbers that were killed by other means

The first time I saw the Motorhead music video, the music was impressive, I was very sad for the emotional weight that Lemmy put in his singing, it touched my heart. In no way will I be disparaging Motorhead in the following comment. Sabaton managed to add 3 very interesting points in the clip: 1st an excellent addition to Lemmy's tribute to the soldiers of the Battle of the Somme, extending this tribute to all soldiers that ever existed. 2° An excellent tribute to Motorhead. 3° A reminder to all fans of Sabaton about soldiers who have already been portrayed in their songs, like Sergeant York (82nd all the Way), Leonidas (Coat of Arms) among others.

I had tears in my eyes...😢 16 years old omg...😔 Good homage to other soldiers dying face down in the mud as well as an *Homage to Motorhead* who recorded the song originally. Their videos are probably a better history 📚 lesson than what is taught in schools now! Sabaton filmed their video for "1916" in Birmingham, England and at the famous Black Country Living Museum. The visual features a cameo by Motorhead band members Mikkey Dee and Phil Campbell... makes it even more special Well done SABATON ❣️

@dingodelta

Жыл бұрын

The youngest soldier discovered was 12 years old.

@vlinder6329

Жыл бұрын

@@dingodelta 😢😢 Horrible, way too young

Everything about the song has been said below. I have nothing. I don't know which version I prefer; both are incredible. Motorhead wins it for me, though. It is so powerful. The Sabaton version is awesome, but that is their meat and potatoes. Working their way through these battles one-by-one opens up the futility of war. Both versions crush me.

9:05 - Something many do not know is that during World War II an army that many feel is synonymous with mechanized industrial warfare, the Nazi German army, in no small part still did achieved their logistics using horse and cart. Less so as the war wore on, but it was most certainly still a thing especially during the retreat out of the Soviet Union after Operation Barbarossa failed with the defeat at Stalingrad and at Kursk. The reason then was less so for a lack of the tech to use (Trucks for instance) as it was prior to the war. They simply didn't have much else to use in a lot of cases at that point.

R.I.P Lemmy 🖤

This is one of few Motörhead songs that I like. Sabaton made it even more emotional. 🎸🥁

It is oddly appropriate to have put out this reaction now; yesterday was the Memorial Day holiday (for 2023) here in the United States. Thank you, gentlemen.

I saw them do this one live in Antwerp a couple of weeks ago, very emotional too. There is a Sabaton history out on Motorhead now.

Thank you for yet another amazingly powerful reaction video! Lemmy's song is a moving masterpiece, Sabaton's production and video of it are respectful and moving in all possible ways. The thing that really stopped me in my tracks was realising that all the modern 'characters' played by 'the cast' in Sabaton's video were real historical people.

As an American veteran who studies military history of ALL wars, We as a nation cannot fathom the struggle and effort that Great Britain went through twice in 30 years. The fear of bombing, rationing of food and supplies, the unrestricted submarine warfare etc. The massive effort of that Island country was astounding. I deeply respect the UK as a nation and a people. WW 1 casualties were honorific as was the conditions they lived and fought in. The battle of the Somme was brutal and tragic yet I take to Heart the Young Men who loved their country so much that they volunteered by the thousands and thousands. Faced with death they still went forward together. My eyes dropped many tears listening to these songs as both are beautiful. Wonderful Tribute to keep these Men and boy's memories alive. Thank you for this video. Thank you to all the British Soldiers, past and present who have and are ready to give 100 percent of themselves to protect their country. Salute!

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

But also Scott we came out with what w call the upper stiff lip, keep calm and carry on attitude, thats being list now but is a wonderful resilient strength. I have spoken to some WWII participants who also said that was the most exciting time of their lives also, isn't it strange to find some loved that period whilst others lost their lives but imagine having a weekend pass, heading to London and party like you might never be able t party again, also being female and suddenly given a job of purpose. I think WWI seems more horrific, but for fewer, those on the front line, but their torment was/is unfathomable.

@grabtharshammer

Жыл бұрын

Not just the British, there were troops from all over the Commonwealth fighting, Indians, West Indians, Australians, New Zealanders, Asians, Africans. It truly was a World War. - My Grandfather was a Stretcher Bearer in the First and saved many lives. My Father was in the Signals in the second (at the end as he was still young). My Dad is 96 with Dementia, he has difficulty remembering me, my brother , his Mum, his wife. But if you ask him what he remembers about WW2, the only thing he remembers is being scared, the whole time.

@scottfarley3644

Жыл бұрын

@@grabtharshammer I agree. That's why I mentioned to the UK, not just England. If you noticed the credits at the end, some common wealth soldiers were mentioned. The Video showed and Indian soldier with rifle advancing on the German trenches. They also gave cast credits to many other soldiers from different nations and era's.

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

@@grabtharshammer You are right. People of many nations and we have no idea how lucky we have been to not have gone through such things.

Now, this song makes sense for Sabaton.

The living stop, and the dead march on to history.

A serious, honest and sincere reaction.

btw I love you guys' intro, it's perfection

The countries hopes are dying, more and more official letters are sent, and somewhere plays rule britannia....the mood of 1916. Not only in the UK, this was the home front in europe. Receiving an official letter was the worst you can imagine as a Mother

This was celebrating all of the dead nameless soldiers throughout history. Beautiful songwriting. Both versions were excellent and very emotional.

Thanks so much Lads for doing this! Theres a massive lack of british content (sent from germany) Dont mention the EU!

Lemmy was a fantastic lyric writer. Anyone who can get "obsequious" into a song (Orgasmatron) isn't writing throw away music.

@CosmosJack

Жыл бұрын

He wrote a lot of the lyrics for Ozzy's big hits too

@CravingBeer

Жыл бұрын

also "parallelogram".

The Motörhead version feels more personal. The Sabaton version feels more heavy. Both musically and emotionally.

I was only 19 and the Band Played Waltzing Matilda for Aussie week. These songs would go well with 1916.👍🦇

I saw Sabaton do 1916 live a few months ago and it was incredible.

Sadly it keeps happening again and again. In the middle of one now, in bloody Europa for efs sake!

Both band are so great! ❤

Tina Guo on cello...

These local regiments were called "Pals"

300k dead for 6miles is 7.5in or 20cm per man, if you go by total casualties it drops to just over 2in about the size of your thunb

A little note: the ecru early 20th century coupe the marching crowd passes on the street is the car Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife Sophie bled to death in Sarajevo - in a way these two deaths where the harbinger forcasting the bloody 20th century - let's hope the escalation of the July Crisis remains a suis generis in it's uncontrolled, unchecked escalation into the great tragedy of Europe, now that Europe's long peace has ended. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz

Didn't take many seconds of the motorhead version of the song to tear up.

I'll add a third band you want to cover war, besides these two. Iron Maiden. Think "The Trooper", "Aces High", "The Duellists" or "Run to the hills". Seriously. The trooper says it all in the first two lines. "You'll take my life, but I'll take yours too You'll fire your musket, but I'll run you through"

Documentary song.

I love this song so much, it reminds me why I hate war, the Motorhead version is more intimate and poignant, but Sabaton pull at your heart so much with there re-imagining and show so much respect for the massively missed Lemmy

A song which compliments this song is gordon Lighfoots patriats dream

i love both versions but i prefer the motorhead version for the emotion that lemmy put in it

The British Generals ability to badly fight the previous war, whether at the Somme or Gallipoli should never be underestimated, especially when those boys where from the colonies or the lower classes like Geordies. The Kiwis even managed to achieve the capture of Chunuk Bair, but the incompetence of the British command meant that the heroic acheivement of the high point that controlled the Gallipoli Peninisula was wasted. In fact the British even shelled their own allies, not believing that it was possible that "mere colonials" could have advanced faster than their own soldiers. Not for the first time were the fighting capacity of the Kiwis, Aussies, Canadians, Ghurkas, Indians or Fijians so underestimated by the spoilt, old , private school, white folk of the Imperial Command. Even to the Korean War this persisted. Check out how the KSOB were treated in Korea. OR worse the Gloucestershire Regiment at Imjin River. Those men were thrown to the dogs to die.

I used to know Lemmy back in the late 70's, mostly from living at Stonehenge Free Festival for weeks on end. He and various members of Hawkwind (Nik Turner mostly) and others would do music spots whenever anyone was together enough to set up a generator and an amp. Happy Daze! As someone who studied and taught History, among other things, I have a bit of a bugbear about Sabaton. There theme is war yet they're still to compose a song about Sweden's part in WW2, which is not talked about much. I don't mean Sweden's supposed neutrality but the fact that they were the main suppliers of iron ore to Germany for nearly the whole of the conflict, without which they would have found it hard to build any war machinery and rampage across Europe and the Soviet Union. That and giving Germany money for coal, which also supported them, and even allowing Nazi troops passage through Sweden as they attacked Norway didn't help anyone apart from Hitler and Co. Somehow, I think that's one aspect of war they'll never be singing about. Rant over.

@elvwood

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I didn't know much of that (I know a lot more about Finland's role in WW2 than Sweden's) - thanks. However, it's not really the sort of thing Sabaton generally sing about anyway, regardless of nationality. They mostly focus on the best aspects of people in war (their bravery, compassion, ingenuity, determination, etc), specific human tragedies, or technology (which is just an extension of human ingenuity really). Not much about general strategy. (At least in recent years; I'm not so familiar with their earlier albums.) Their theme is a bit more narrow than just "war" - if it weren't for their sideline in technophilia I'd call it "celebrating humanity in a time of war". If they were to do the song you suggest, it would just be to make a point, so I feel it's a bit of a stretch to pillory them for not doing it. After all, how many English bands have sung about our use of concentration camps, or deliberately making famines worse, or fighting wars to force people to buy drugs from us? (This is not meant as an attack on you, just explaining why I disagree with your bugbear.)

@drigerdranzer7514

Жыл бұрын

@Tony Griffin Sweden was a double faced part in WWII. We had a coalition government with all parties except for the communists with one main purpose. At every cost prevent an invasion of Sweden. And still being free Sweden used that position to do things behind the back on the Germans. We trained Norwegian resistance men, we helped English pilots that crashed or was downed to come home again and send secret troops to assist Finland. It was also a Swede that cracked the code they used for messaging on the Bismarck so thanks to him the Royal Navy could follow Bismarck's twists and turns. It was a really thin line we balanced on during the war, and Hitler had plans in 1943 to invade Sweden but those plans were dropped only days, or if it was weeks before it should happen.

@tonygriffin_

Жыл бұрын

@@drigerdranzer7514 "At every cost prevent an invasion of Sweden." Denmark bore a bit of that cost (as did millions in Europe and Soviet Union) as the Nazis occupied it even though it (and Norway) were neutral so they could easily transport all the iron ore from Sweden that they literally wouldn't have been able to build and maintain their war machine - tanks, ships, artillery, planes, etc - without. When it comes to Nazism, balancing on any thin line or fence just allows them to do what they wish.

@drigerdranzer7514

Жыл бұрын

@@tonygriffin_ As I said it was a balance act. Sweden had to accept a lot but that gave us the opportunity to help the allied with anti German activities. No way that Sweden just accepted to be puppets. Very much was done against them that not would have been possible if Sweden was invaded. We had to keep a smiling face to the Germans, but we were giving them the finger behind their backs.

@carinarodebak9419

Жыл бұрын

And Sweden also smuggled out vital ballbearings for war machinery, in small speedboats through mines waters to British ships waiting outside the mine belts at open sea. All swedish merchant vessels outside the mine belts in 1939 couldn't come home through all the war. Most of them was seized by allied forces and used for transportation,manned by neutral swedish sailors. Many sailed in transportation convoys to Murmansk, threatened every step by submarines and Tirpitz and other German naval ships. My grandfather was sailing as a steward outside of swedish waters all war. He survived getting torpedoed 3! times during the war. Ca 200 neutral swedish merchant vessels were sunk during WWII doing transportation for allied side and at least 1800-2000 non- fighting sailors died on those ships. Probably more as those swedish sailors enlisted on British or US ships during the war are not included in those numbers.

Your can also refer to "Im Westen nichts Neues" - "All quiet on the Western Front" 💣⚔️⚰️This years Oscars winner...🏆 This was the German Front (opposite side) at Verdun blood mill in WW1...🤕😷⚰️ Make Love ♥️ Not war💣⚰️

It is not an "Anti-War" song, it just describes war as it is.... and that in itself is a plead against war....

@TheThamesmen

9 ай бұрын

Good point

They weren't 14 claiming to be 16, they were 16 claiming to be 18

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

Still not good but thank you!

And yet the UK lost 1-2 million horses

Anti-war? Isn't every song about war anti-war? My grandfather's two older brothers tossed a coin to see who would emigrate to Australia from Britain. Great Uncle Edward won the toss and ended up as a cook on a Queensland sheep station. My Grandfather followed him not long after. When WW1 broke out Great Uncle Teddy (family name) signed up for the Australian Imperial Forces and my Grandfather Ben lied about his age to get in. Ben was told he had a heart murmur and would probably not make another six months and was rejected (he died in 1980 from pneumonia after smoking all his life). Great Uncle George who remained in England joined the British Army and was sent to France. In the end Great Uncle George Flanders lost a hand and Great Uncle Edward Flanders' body was never recovered from Flanders Fields. Sorry, a bit grim, I felt I had to say it.

You guys shutted up quickly.

terrible cover..

Sabaton version is truly terrible, The music video is so far removed, it's almost an insult.

I think any honest portrayal of war be it song, film, poem, painting or book is by default anti-war. The Allies lost more men in the Somme than they did in entire 2nd World War all services combined, yet no Generals were held to account. So yeah fuck war, and those who start them. Here endeth my rant. Peace to all.