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Easily the most stacked. Diamantidis, Jasikevicius, Spanoulis, Nicholas as Guards. With Chatzivrettas (huge Iraklis player) as the 5th option. Fotsis, Tsartsaris, Kecman, Perperoglou, and Sakota (went on to have a good career with AEK) as Forwards. NBAer Nikola Pekovic, and Euroleague Legend Mike Batiste as Centers. Each Position had 1 or 2 Hall of Fame calibre options. Coached by Zeljko Obradovic, with assistant coach Dimitris Itoudis. And Pavlos and Thanasis Giannakopoulos as Executives. How can a team get any better? And the thing is, we weren't playing against weak opponents. CSKA was a Powerhouse back then with JR Holden (hugely underrated legend), Trajan Langdon, Ramunas Siskauskas, Matjaz Smodis, Zoran Planinic, Nikos Zisis, Erazem Lorbek, Viktor Khryapa... Solid team. Olympiacos was on the rise with Vujcic, Greer, Papaloukas, Bourousis, and a young Teodosic. Even the Siena we beat in the Playoffs were 5 years or something back-to-back Italian Champions, with Romain Sato, Terrell McIntyre and Henry Domercant in their roster.

@Analyseis

5 ай бұрын

FOTSIS

@markomarkovic5729

5 ай бұрын

I miss that basketball, when every team had its own identity and style, while today almost everyone plays the same way, it's generic basketball. There were European players that the Americans knew nothing about, and to us in Europe they were legends. Željko's PAO, CSKA, Montepaschi, then Baskonia (true fans will always call it Tau Ceramica), Pini Gershon's Maccabi, Scariolo's Unicaja, late 90s/early 2000s Virtus, Benetton, Fortitudo...

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

@@markomarkovic5729 It wasn't Virtus to us, it was Kinder. We all called it Kinder Bologna. Still call this to this day some times.

@markomarkovic5729

5 ай бұрын

@@DimShamrock Yep, with Messina on the bench

Nikola Pekovic was a force to be reckoned with down low. Such an underrated player. If it wasn't for the injuries, Pek could have been an all-star, in my opinion.

You need to react to the 2012 Semifinal replay of this game. Probably the most controversial game in Greek basketball, some outrageous calls in the end let to Panathinaikos losing and robbed us from a Greek final in Istanbul.

@vasilis-xh7lh

5 ай бұрын

Κωνσταντινούπολη αδερφέ άκου Ιστανμπούλ....

@thanosgrifo4498

5 ай бұрын

Robbed us of a 7th chip . Ain't no way we lost in the finals .

I'll tell you something, guys, and you'll be surprised... Antonis Fotsis with number 9, still plays basketball professionally, aged 42 in Ilisiakos' team in Greece!

@KARAOTI23

5 ай бұрын

I think 3rd division isn't professional level

@paschalisdan792

5 ай бұрын

@@KARAOTI23 yes you have right! i forgot that!

@kakosvezyris

5 ай бұрын

if you get paid, it's professional...@@KARAOTI23

@Alkomp75

5 ай бұрын

The arena "Antonis Fotsis" is 300 m from my house in Ano Ilissia.I go and watch Ilissiakos , Fotsis is still in a great shape !

@ResidentEvil30001

5 ай бұрын

​@@Alkomp75Antonis Fotsis own a house at my neighbourhood at Polydrosso Maroussi.

Carlos Arteaga, the one that called the 8 second violation called for a foul under the basket once Siska missed the last shot but the other refs just showed that the game was over. Great effort by Carlos.

Panathinaikos 2009 is by far the greatest team to have played in modern Euroleague at least, possibly all-time (I don't know for sure, born in 1994). I remember having this ZEN mentality that "if we don't screw up big time, we win". I never ever had something like this in any team I supported ever again.

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

We didn't though, did we? By the way, this game had the stigma of having corrupt refs beforehand. As seen in the Panathinaikos movie "Journey to the Stars". Thanasis Giannakopoulos threw his money in the air when the game was over. With the Euroleague executives present.

@markomarkovic5729

5 ай бұрын

That PAO was the best European team since 2000, but the all-time best European team is Jugoplastika, which won 3 Euroleagues in a row. Toni Kukoč, Dino Radja, Zoran Savić, Luka Pavićević, Zoran Sretenović, Velimir Perasović, veteran Duško Ivanović, etc... Partizan had a better team on paper with Vlade Divac, Žarko Paspalj, Aleksandar Đorđević, Saša Danilović, Željko Obradović.. But Jugoplastika is the best managed team. Željko Obradović's mentor, the father of Yugoslav basketball, Aleksandar Nikolić, was then the mentor of Božidar Maljković at Jugoplastika.

@skatiarhs007

5 ай бұрын

@@markomarkovic5729 jugoplastika end up in 1991 so why is Panathinaikos the best team since 2000 ? the big difference is that european basketball was very easy back to 1990, now you have to face many good teams 5 from spain not pantalona ! big money teams with unlimited americans like monaco and the season is long not like the 1990 that teams were not exactly profesional

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

​@@skatiarhs007 Respect every era. Jugoplastika was legendary for a reason. And back then there were different legendary teams. Milano, Maccabi, Aris, Split, PAOK, Cibona. Also Badalona had Obradovic. And won a Euroleague. Something that not every team can say. Split has won as many Euroleagues as Olympiacos. And they did it in 3 seasons back to back. Something that has never been done since. They had Kukoc (NBA legend, multiple time NBA champion), Radja (huge player at the time, won a championship everywhere he went, was huge in both Olympiacos and Panathinaikos), and Perasovic. They were also coached by Bozidar Maljkovic. A guy that brought you your first Euroleague in 1996. Just because you don't know, it doesn't mean they don't matter. Let arrogance for the others in the port. It's not our thing.

@markomarkovic5729

5 ай бұрын

@@skatiarhs007 There's no better proof that you haven't watched much basketball if you claim that today's basketball is much better. American players who come to Europe today are 3rd class players, while before star players like Bob McAdoo, Dominique Wilkins, Rolando Blackman, Antonio Davis, Spencer Haywood, Reggie Theus, Walter Berry, Eddie Johnson, Roy Tarpley, Willie Anderson, etc came to Europe. Today, 18-year-old kids who haven't achieved anything significant in career go to the NBA, while in the past only the best players went, but even they didn't always go. Dejan Bodiroga never wanted to leave Europe. Dino Rađa decided to go to Roma instead of the Boston Celtics in 1990. He was paid like Diego Maradona in Napoli. There are no more authentic European stars playing in the Euroleague.

Please review the 2012 semi-final PAO-CSKA. As a 13-year-old PAO fan at the time, I remember being extremely upset. Probably the saddest and most frustrating moment in my life watching a PAO game in general, I would love to see your reactions related to this game.

I love your chemistry guys, it is amazing! Your content goes according to your vibe together. Good job!

The journalist interviewing Obradovic is a life long Olympiacos. That is why Obradovic answered that way and left the interview, he knew him already and also he was disrespected, the journalist couldn't hide his anti-panathinaikos sentiments and didn't congratulate him, immediately he went to the officiating.

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

It is also kind of upid to ask about referees right after the Euroleague's been won. It also shows to you how natural it was for us to win a European trophy back then. It's like it didn't matter sometimes.

Diamantidis was the leader and best player back then.. However at that final 4 he was a little bit out of shape coming from an injury

Fotsis btw still holds the record for Most total rebounds in a game with 24 back in 2007. + an excellent sharp shooter

Diamantidis and Batist was the best duo. This was proved in Barcelona's final four in 2011 as well as in play offs by beating Barcelona when Panathinaikos playing mostly pick and roll. Also, Panathinaikos had less choises in offense comparing the team of 2009 that had more options of plays.

Such a great video and chemistry between you guys , give me some more plz 💯

Fun fact. Saras was the only person to get Diamantidis out of his house. Even Duamantidis have said that Saras was the reason to meet his wife, during one of their nights out.

GREAT JOB GUYS. RESPECT FOR KNOWING HORTO MAGIKO!!! IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE PANATHINAIKOS AND OLYMPIAKOS AGAIN IN BERLIN 15 YEARS AHEAD. AND OF COURSE PAO LIFTING THE 7TH CUP...

It's crazy what a massive support cska, real, barca had from the refs and the organization over the years. It's like everything is done so they wouldn't lose, it still happens and it's really annoying

good old memories, ty for the video!

Love the show,loved the comments, greetings from Athens

The people who did not see this team in action will never understand how dominant basketball they played and how good these players were individually. Panathinaikos had the best 3rd quarter of any team in the Eurolague for half a decade at least. We were watching the games an WE KNEW that after the halftime break the team would enter the court and end the 3rd quarter with huge point differences even with the best opponents.

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

For me still the best. We weren't playing against rookie Monaco.

@thmargar

5 ай бұрын

I remember always thinking this... If we were doing great in the first half, we would totally mess up in 3rd quarted, and spend 4th quarter catching up... But if we were behind, man the 3rd quarter would always be a crazy comeback.

2008-09 Panathinaikos is my favourite euroleague team. Fantastic roster,the greatest basketball coach ever and of course the win against olympiacos in the semifinal.

You guys got yourself a fan! Keep it real

what a team that was!! majestic indeed

Crazy F4 that one. Anxiety level off the charts for all 80 minutes.

there is no even a debate ☘

Amazing team

Was there in 2009, will be there in 2024

2001 Virtus team was stacked. Ginobili, Jaric, Rigeadeau, Smodis, Griffith, Frossini, Abbio, Andersen, Sconochini, Messina as coach

Saras travelling to Lithuania and back on the last play

What made the refereeing mistake glaring to Panathinaikos Coach and Chairmen was that they were already aware of the intention of the referees to push CSKA before the game. Zeljko in his post semi-final interview had mentioned "strange things" happening. They knew that even the difference of 25 points would not be enough to give them a straightforward final. Very good analysis boys I thoroughly enjoyed it.

The best team ever that has played in Euroleague. PANATHINAIKOS ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️

Great job guys 👏 . My warmest regards from Thessaloniki Greece

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

You have some good teams up there right now.

panathinaikos 2010-2011,was by far the best team ever in euroleage . Highiest iq ever with the best coach zeliko , legendary!

@Kill_Bill_007

5 ай бұрын

The 2008-09 PAO team was better.

As a Panathinaikos fan I am not being objective but if you are into Eurolegue stories from the past the playoff battle between Panathinaikos and Barcelona in 2011 is one of the best in history. Prime Diamantidis vs prime Navarro.

Itoudis is like Richard Alpert from Lost serie...He does not appear to age...

The smoking part was so funny and true,i think also Ioannidis got fined in a Eurobasket in Sweden if i am not mistaken for smoking before the jump ball 😂😂😂😂

A role player of Panathinaikos and Olympiakos Giorgos Bogris said recently that when he was practicing against Pekovic it was like trying to move a building

I am a Panathinaikos fan from Athens. For sure that team was the best of its history . I remember that 2008-09 season the team din't start very well , but the last 3-4 months in all competitions the games they played were great. Maybe the team wone the 2 matches in the f4 with only 2 points diferrence but generally at the end of the day was a little bit better from its oppo0nents in all matches. The team has 10 almost equal players. By the way, it was a great f4, we watched 3 great games (2 semis and the final). So, objectively i put this team as the greater in euroleague history (from 2001) together with Maccabi Tel Aviv 2004-05, CSSKA Moscow 2007-08, Barcelona 2009-10 & Real Madrid 2017-18. And I love both Saras and Siska. They gave great moments played with my favorite team. !

That story of how ball went into the bus was so unexpexted 💀🤣🤣

I don't know about the full roster, but in terms of a starting 5, I don't think it gets much better than: Jasikevicius, Navarro, Bodiroga, Fucka and Roberto Dueñas. As a FC Barcelona hater, that line-up, especially the backcourt, was mental.

Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Saras, Nicolas (+Hatzivretas): EASILY the best guards lineup ever ! Batiste, Pekovic, Fotsis, Tsartsaris: EASILY the best forwards lineup ever And you got legend Alvertis and Perperoglou at 3 This team has no match in European History

@nbawinningtips

5 ай бұрын

cut the crap

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

Alvertis was barely in the team by that point. He didn't really play.

Panathinaikos the best !

There is a funny saying in Serbia - Nikola Pekovic is the only guy that wanted to turn legal money into illegal.

it was dwight howard who said that about pekovic

Dream Team!!!

DREAM TEAM

Horto magiko!

When i was watching this game in Athens,i was thinking exactly the same-it must be the most stacked final in the history of the Euroleague.

I was there. German security was terrifying. They has some kind of exo-skeleton, looked like the movie Rollerblade.

15:00 that is hilarious... I have the exact same story, but with a football. Brand new ball for my birthday got destroyed in like an hour by a bus

Watch the miracle of zalgiris or the 2014 semi final CSKA vs maccabi

Bro really had said Diamantidis shooting was not so good. You’ve got to be kidding me. Anyway, nice video.

The crazy thing is that the year after, the same team didn't even get to the play offs even though in the top 16 we played against Partizan and Maroussi!!😵‍💫

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

Well, after 2 European Cups, you lower your guard a little bit. And kudos to Partizan, they were really good that year. Marousi was the 3rd best team in Greece at the time. Something like Aris now.

@letaros

5 ай бұрын

nothing crazy to that. There is a thing in sports called complacency

this team could not be more stacked

Maybe pick a Christmas NBA game for Christmas episode if there were any interesting ones 😊

Panathikaikos was a team full of stars with the best trainer...but Jugoplastika was also a great team with young and players from the Jugoslavia...

2:45. I knew it! So it wasn't only me who thought so...

this couple of years real madrid has have some stacked teams ,almost full nba squad and euroleague legends

@lantidis1

5 ай бұрын

True but the difference is that in that year's PAO roster, most of the players were more or less on their peak. Besides Alvertis who was semi retired, the oldest one Saras was 33 and a bit off, Chatzivrettas was also quite old and Sakota too young but they were the last options anyway, Spanoulis had a bit more upside to give, but the rest of them where solid. Current day Real has legendary players on their roster but I doubt that Rudy, Llull and Chacho could carry the team for a whole season if it wasn't for the younger player core

@markomarkovic5729

5 ай бұрын

2009 PAO or 2010 Barca would destroy today's Real

only a small correction... the great pick and roll duo, were diamantidis and batiste

V span back on these days didn't care to pass at all, so having 0 assist wasn't really uncommon .Also what a team, its like euroleague legends all star team .Diamantidis, Saras, Spanoulis, Fotsis, Batist, Pekovits and the list goes on.Not to mention zeliko on the bench. Maybe the best team played in euroleague ever

Diamantidis and Batiste were the most usual combo.

Bourousis played with 39°C fever

T.Giannakopoulos was in the newspapers solely due what you just mentioned. Perhaps this is the reason why in 2012 against Cska, Panathinaikos got butchered by the rees.

Jeliko obradovich is a master in Euro league Panathinaikos team was the best in europe. There will never be again players like diamantidis,batist,fotsis and the whole squad

Panathinaikos 2006-2012 the best team in European basket.

The shot clock needs to be at 15 for 8 seconds to have passed. If it says 16 then it's 16+. You can understand this by looking at the 23 coming up instantly when the clock resets - took me years to realise

Watch 2011 Pao vs Barca game 4 best atmosphere ever

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

I was in that one. Still best atmosphere I've seen in my lifetime. People were literally hanging off the ceiling of OAKA. The iron rails near the entrance, specifically. But they were pretty high up.

05:49 If my memory serves me right, Peko's greek nickname was "the balcan rapist" :D

guys if you want to see bad referees check the game between cska and panathinaikos in 2012 semifinal..you won’t believe this

BEST TEAM EVER. ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘

PANATHINAIKOS FOR EVER

Glory days of the Green Euroleague Kingdom. Winning 8 men in the court. The Greens are back, more to come!

This is prime euroleague officiating, I’m a pao fan and I’ll sit and say yes saras traveled it’s clear and if euroleague would invest in good officials it would be called but also here cska got some of the most controversial calls ever made in basketball. It’s European final and we have this bs till this day. They need to fix this one day. Also look at the 2012 semi vs cska robbed us from a Greek final would have been legendary.

What do you think about panathinaikos new team and coach so far they don't play so good but are all good and highly paid player's

PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO OF CSSKA PAO 2012. KZread NEEDS A VIDEO TO STAY IN HISTORY ABOUT THE WORST REFEREE WORK EVER.

We're coming back boyz! Hezonja and Micic are joining next year and we're up there again.

@Alkomp75

5 ай бұрын

Rumours say Tavares , Micic are in talks with PAO !

@Dimitris_1987

5 ай бұрын

@@Alkomp75 Mario is 100% a Panathinaikos player next year. Everybody wants reunion. We'll see.

University of Maryland was well represented in this game.

THE BEST TEAM EVER ☘️☘️☘️

Review 2012 semifinal between pao and cska if u want a complete travesty of a reffing job

6 stars is here

Με τα την παράγκα Βασιλακόπουλου, έχουμε αυτή του μποντιρογκα...όποτε καλά κρατεί ο Ακτορ...🎉🎉

Well as I wrote again you are too young but guys you have a basketball show and you seem that you have no idea how dominant diamantidis was he completely controlled defense and offense at the same time he is the most complete player in the modern history of Euroleague its difficult of course to realize such a thing if you didn't watch his era

Jugoplastika in 1990, easily the most stacked team ever.

the best team ever in euroleage

Panathinaikos president accused the spanish referee Arteaga that had been bribed in the half-time by CSKA.Arteaga tried to orchestrate the robbery of the century and stole the cup from PAO.That's why when the game finishes , at 23:13 Zelico is mad and Itoudis tries to hold him !

MONO PAO

Best one is anadolu efes the season which canceled because of coronavirus and no team like efes had dominated euroleague like anadolu in 5 years

PANATHINAIKOS☘

Greece vs USSR 1987 - final of European championship 🏆

i believe we need you guys to watch and comment all euroleague finals until today .

SARAS 😂😂😂

Funny how they say that they only travel and play iso ball in the NBA.

Refs made a huge comeback, the biggest in Euroleague history!

@DimShamrock

5 ай бұрын

Say that again without crying.

Žalgiris is i think only team i EUROLEAGUE, team with 90% lithuanian players.

BEST TEAM EVER IN EUROLEAGUE...NICE CHOICE GUYS!!!...LEARN SOME BASKTBALL..LOL...☘💚...IF DIAMADNTDIS HAS CHOOSEN TO PLAY IN THE NBA....YOU WOULD HAVE THINGS TO TALK FOR YEARS....CHEERS...ONLY PANATHINAIKOS☘

Always and forever Green! ☘☘☘ The best Euroleague half in the basketball history. Then the gray wolves (refs) decided to change the pace of the game with their bad decisions. However Panathinaikos never misses trophies. ☘☘☘

You guys have a lot of fans from Istanbul, Turkey. Regards dudes !!

What stacked team means?

Panathinaikos or Olympiakos?

guys you dont have a clue,how some teams are being pushed in euroleague,in that case(and generly) was C.C.S.K.A, they were pushing...(yeap the 500 euro throw,had happened before that year,in another title)....as in NBA some years with some teams,ok thats the world,unfortunallty and sadly....