Most Riders' Greatest Weakness - Practice Like a Pro #53

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THIS EPISODE:
Most riders' greatest weakness is... their front foot turn! Studying this, and then putting it into practice, is one of the best things you can do to improve your riding.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS A FRONT FOOT TURN?
A front foot turn is any time your front foot is on the outside of the turn. For example, if you're a left foot forward rider, this will be any time you turn right. If you're a right foot forward rider, this will be any time you turn left.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
It's important to distinguish front foot turns from back foot turns because we have an asymmetric stance on the bike, so our bodies don't move in the same way when turning in each direction.
Most riders stand over their bikes with their dominant foot in the back, and naturally carry their weight there while riding. In order to correctly pressure the pedal when performing a front foot turn, your body needs to shift weight surprisingly far forward. This motion does not come naturally to most people, so it's important to develop this coordination. This will allow you to link good turns together that are equally as powerful, rather than making a good turn followed by a bad turn every time the trail changes direction.
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Linnea has been racing locally in the pro category, but prior to Fluidride, she had almost no formal training and was held back by major gaps in her technique. While she was able to carry speed well on straight downhills and high-bermed turns, she lacked foundational cornering skills and was timid in the air. In Feb 2020, she met up with Fluidride to help with a filming trip in Baja, and was fascinated by Simon's teaching methods. Wanting to be part of this mission, she left her career in healthcare in July 2020 to officially join the Fluidride team as COO. We started filming this series to document her journey of cleaning up bad habits, adding new skills to her toolkit, and chasing her dream of riding with style.
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  • @TheyForcedMyHandLE
    @TheyForcedMyHandLE10 ай бұрын

    Interesting. My weak turn is the opposite as what's shown here. Right foot forward and my weak turn is a right-hander.

  • @hambo76

    @hambo76

    10 ай бұрын

    Same with me, and I'm right handed.

  • @flgfish

    @flgfish

    10 ай бұрын

    @@hambo76same here

  • @leeroi37

    @leeroi37

    10 ай бұрын

    Same with me

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    That puts you in a small category of rider (as I teach about 1,000 riders per year in person). The front foot turn isn't missing for all riders, but is for most. Nice advantage that you have a comfy front foot turn to start! -Simon

  • @hambo76

    @hambo76

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride I put this video into practice yesterday (and the recent steep descents one, and your tip about releasing the front brake for more control) and it made a real difference to my ride! This is easily the best coaching channel on KZread. PS. Great to have you back Simon!

  • @mustgofaster6545
    @mustgofaster654524 күн бұрын

    Simon presents easily digestible and actionable guidance for complex movements. 🙏

  • @xpankakex19
    @xpankakex1910 ай бұрын

    All this is crazy reverse for people with their dominate foot forward. Intuitively (to me at least) it's easier to open your hips towards your back foot with all that open space, versus across your body/front leg. IE I'm right foot forward, right foot dominate - my left turns are leaps and bounds better than my right turns. My hips lock up when I go right. It seems like turning opposite your dominate leg is easier and more intuitive regardless of which is forward. The foot you're driving with being the determinate factor. Thanks for the vid!

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Really varies from rider to rider, but after teaching nearly 1,000 people in person per year for many years, the back foot turn is easier for most. Of course if you are riding with your dominant foot in the front, that can change things. You are in a group of about 10% of riders that feel this way. I always tell riders like you that this is an inherent advantage as the back foot turn is easier to learn to perfect for most riders. Having a strong natural front foot turn is a great starting point! Most riders put their stronger leg in the back, which I'd guess is to support them on descents. BUT, there are some amazing world cup pros who are right foot forward. As a matter of fact, more than half of top World Cup descenders are right foot forward, while only about 30% of the riding population is. I think they are feeling what you are. Good stuff. -Simon

  • @manalotomanaloto
    @manalotomanaloto10 ай бұрын

    You guys are the best! So happy to see you back. This tutorial is exactly what I needed and have not been doing. I've learned to cheat by switching stances but can't switch fast enough depending on the trail. You break things down so well, so logical, and so effective. Thank you!

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah, switching on the trail can get hectic. On modern trails, there is typically no time. You might also snag a pedal doing that! -Simon

  • @divscifres2674
    @divscifres267410 ай бұрын

    Wow -- I've never heard this in many turning coaching sessions! Can't wait to take it out on the bike!

  • @mikecarter6758
    @mikecarter675810 ай бұрын

    So glad you guys are back. My favorite team of coaches on KZread! This is one of my goals this year.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks Mike! We truly appreciate your kind words. -Simon

  • @SonnyCrisini
    @SonnyCrisini10 ай бұрын

    So glad you're back !

  • @Pricklyhedgehog72
    @Pricklyhedgehog7210 ай бұрын

    Huge help, thanks for breaking this down.

  • @reverentalexanderchezeley-6367
    @reverentalexanderchezeley-63672 ай бұрын

    Great information. Thanks both.

  • @noUnderstanding
    @noUnderstanding10 ай бұрын

    Just great! I was wondering about that for long time and just this month I figured out - when I move forward my left turns got better. Now I got this explained! Thank You!

  • @nathanakers1
    @nathanakers110 ай бұрын

    have missed my regular practice like a pro hit! So glad you are back.

  • @rebecahanrahan5556
    @rebecahanrahan555610 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video! Game changer. Went out today and practiced this! It helped a lot.

  • @onesquirrel2713
    @onesquirrel271310 ай бұрын

    Wow, this makes so much sense!

  • @ClayGreen
    @ClayGreen10 ай бұрын

    PERFECT timing!! Great description and this perspective opened my eyes up to a LOT! Thanks!

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Right on Clay. You are so welcome. Love it when we are able to help! -Simo

  • @SergejGrabun
    @SergejGrabun10 ай бұрын

    So happy to see you back making videos! Awesome

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching - we're stoked to be back 🥳 -Linnea

  • @Bringinheat
    @Bringinheat10 ай бұрын

    Glad you guys are back.... One of the best mtb tutorials on youtube... Thanks guys 🤙

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much. We are happy to be back! -Simon

  • @hopnglo680
    @hopnglo68010 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I absolutely love and look forward to your videos. I learned a lot in this video.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much. We love helping riders learn! Such a great community. -Simon

  • @jeffsaraiva7099
    @jeffsaraiva709910 ай бұрын

    learned something new today, thank you!

  • @stirfrybry1
    @stirfrybry110 ай бұрын

    I feel lucky that everything you say just came to me intuitively as a living critter on two wheels

  • @janlalarcena8151
    @janlalarcena81519 ай бұрын

    Thankyou very heplful coaching and Explaining the science behind body weight pos made everything understandable 👍

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words! So glad our tutorials are helping.

  • @Bonky-wonky
    @Bonky-wonky10 ай бұрын

    Great video and explanation on a topic that’s sadly been overlooked to often because people only ride berms or are too busy trying to ‘shralp’ corners. I’ve coached mountainbikers for a couple of years and always enphasized twisting your body in the direction of the turn, ie hip and elbow out. Also important to keep tension in this direction in order to force the bike to turn. Laying it over and, if the situation calls for it, dropping the outside foot can maximize grip.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah, super overlooked. And yes, so many shralp vids with inside foot pressure. Fun for videos, but not a ton of traction offered. Glad you are out teaching the right things. Makes me happy! -Simon

  • @kjracz15
    @kjracz1510 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I'm bad at this too. I'm a righty, and I don't know why but whenever I take right turns, there's always that fear of falling over. I'm slowly making it better by ratcheting it with the right foot forward. That way also helps me make narrower turns which is good coz I love climbing.

  • @nigelthompson4694
    @nigelthompson469410 ай бұрын

    Love this channel. Best coaching advice by far. Any chance you will be covering back foot turns as well, . As others here have stated back foot turns are also my weakest side. Any help here would be appreciated. Keep up the good work.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Good call Nigel! We'll put it on the list! -Simon

  • @frits8986
    @frits898610 ай бұрын

    First time I ever see a video about this topic and it is some interesting stuff. Curious to see what practicing this will do for my turns

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Give it a whirl! If you watch any high level pro riders, you will see this all day long. We teach what the pros do. None of this is made up in any way. Just an explanation of what the highest level riders rely on for speed and control. Give yourself some time to practice this. I'm still working on it during every ride -even with decades of experience. -Simon

  • @DanBuhler
    @DanBuhler10 ай бұрын

    Great video as usual. I do miss the examples on what NOT to do that you have in some of your other videos. Many thanks.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    I'll keep that in mind! We do have a bunch of 'what not to do' videos coming out. Going to sprinkle those in soon. A couple have already been filmed. Thanks for letting us know what helps you Dan! -Simon

  • @dems_mtb
    @dems_mtb10 ай бұрын

    Great video thank you

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    You are most welcome. Thanks for tuning in! -Simon

  • @w.baillie2923
    @w.baillie292310 ай бұрын

    This is going to take some work. I have always switched legs thinking the extra half pedal was helping. Thanks for going through all this

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Give it a try. Does take time to break old habits, but should be worth the time. On old school trails there was time, but trails turn so fast and frequently these days, that this technique has become the modern standard for all pro riders. -Simon

  • @certainperfectratio

    @certainperfectratio

    10 ай бұрын

    As a "testimonial", I was in the same boat - always switched- and after watching a fluid ride video a couple years ago, I tried leaving one foot forward all of the time. It's improved my riding immensely.

  • @remcrash13
    @remcrash1310 ай бұрын

    Excellent video. Thank you. Stronger right or left leg/foot very similar to regular vs. goofy foot in surfing. As goofy foot, also feel the stronger left foot when turning right when skiing.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's interesting. I ride left foot forward on the bike as my back leg really supports me (right leg is my strong one), but on a board I'm right foot forward as I think it helps me carve turns. That said, when attempting to surf (I skate a bit) I've certainly overweighted my front foot and dug in uncomfortably! Interesting how we use our bodies and make up for our strong side etc. -Simon

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker61549 ай бұрын

    There is a lot of replay value in this.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    9 ай бұрын

    For sure. Takes a LOT of practice!

  • @lathamstylemtb
    @lathamstylemtb10 ай бұрын

    Always skateboarded or snowboard goofy foot. I ride right foot forward but my left hand turns are more comfortable then right handed turns 😂. Easier to get the bike leaned over for some reason. My cornering knobs on the left side of my tires always have wear and my right side knobs don’t have nearly as much.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Wow it's so cool that you've noticed these differences in your tires, too! You are really tuned into the details; we love this. -Linnea

  • @damonschaefer7554
    @damonschaefer755410 ай бұрын

    At 5.55 you start talking about turn an rotating to the front foot and back foot. The because human are contra-lateral movers. So when the foot is forward that arm want to move back and be connected to the torso.

  • @Zetler
    @Zetler10 ай бұрын

    Damn that Troy Lee A1 helmet really pop.

  • @figlermaert
    @figlermaert10 ай бұрын

    That’s reassuring right away to say not to switch feet, cause I feel when I try to switch feet I over think everything and it feels unnatural. But when I keep my feet in the middle I can corner way better focusing on balance and my target.

  • @ajj4483
    @ajj448310 ай бұрын

    On the odd day that I nail this technique, I feel the bike really swings through the corner quite effortlessly & sweetly. Kinda like hitting a nice shot in golf or tennis or a nice turn in surfing. Thanks for this, it'll help me refine my technique and break down the key movements.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I get that. That's how I latched on to this idea. I'd get a good one from time to time, then realized they were mostly tight radius berms, so I set about tightening up some turns to see what would happen, and it's been really helpful - and fun! -Simon

  • @ajj4483

    @ajj4483

    10 ай бұрын

    Yep it definitely works, I enjoy your relaxed approach to it and thanks again👍

  • @nynomadfjc3907
    @nynomadfjc390710 ай бұрын

    Got to practice with your non dominant foot foward

  • @Biking_with_Akiva
    @Biking_with_Akiva10 ай бұрын

    Wow that clicked, can't wait to try it out

  • @orrphism
    @orrphism5 күн бұрын

    right foot forward and right food dominant here. right turns are much harder than left turns because of hip position. Looking at these comments, this seems more common than admitted

  • @seanoneil277
    @seanoneil27710 ай бұрын

    This was great Simon. It's amazing how similar MTB turning and alpine skiing turning are at many levels. Once again this is about body posture/alignment to get you onto a balanced, active "drive" foot, and it's the same in skiing. Higher level turns are started as high up toward the tip/shovel as possible -- early, on an active "drive" foot linked to a leg, hips, torso in the proper attitudes for a powerful stance & drive through the turn. I don't know if you teach/coach skiing or snowboarding but I can tell you that you would be very good at it if you did.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks Sean. I was a better skier than I am a rider, but started doing year round summers about a decade ago. I still lean heavily on my ski and motocross backgrounds as they have provided so many insights into proper human movement. -Simon

  • @seanoneil277

    @seanoneil277

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride You're welcome. My favorite ski coach used to talk about the activities (other than ice hockey/figure skating/speed skating) with the best parallels/crossover learning, for turn-to-turn ideas teaching: in his view, they are horse riding, motorcycle riding, bicycle riding. All require a conscious change of lead, so to speak -- that's what he said. I had a lot of good chair ride talks with him on the parallels between MTB or moto, and skiing. Especially the MTB vs moto, where parallel stance vs independent foot position was concerned, and what that meant for lead change.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    While I was never really an equestrian, I've often used horse riding analogies for biking. Cool how so many sports share similar traits one might never expect!

  • @K.I.S.stupid
    @K.I.S.stupid10 ай бұрын

    Great video! If you grew up skateboarding like I did all through the 80s and 90s I’m goofy footed I’m right foot forward all day. It’s funny because even to this day things feel front side and backside to me even on a mountain bike.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's strange. I've been skating all my life, and am right foot forward on a board, but am useless on my bike with my right foot forward on a bike. Love the flow of both bike and board! -Simon

  • @K.I.S.stupid

    @K.I.S.stupid

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride that’s very interesting ! I’m exactly the opposite

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    @@K.I.S.stupid Yeah, that's why we say 'most'. I teach nearly 1,000 riders a year and would say about 5% are like you in that way. Interesting how bodies work...or sometimes don't want to work🙂

  • @oliverbourne9599
    @oliverbourne959910 ай бұрын

    Awesome as always. I think I got this technique process into my head when you first did this in your online school but one thing I can't feel / work out is, where that 'pumped snap' comes from in the turn that you can see Simon getting here 11:12 ?? It's looks like an apex acceleration to the eye, if I'm seeing that right. Thanks

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Oliver, so nice to hear from you again. You are seeing that correctly. Tough conditions to get lateral acceleration (apex snap) but with practice it can happen. I've done about a million runs though the cones🙂Keep up the practice! -Simon

  • @oliverbourne9599

    @oliverbourne9599

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride You've got an amazing memory Simon. Thanks for the answer 👍

  • @stirfrybry1
    @stirfrybry110 ай бұрын

    Good advice Back in 1997 my teammate and I created a practice run in the town park so we could get 5 runs an hour(using our vehicles) when we had time to meet. We chose the most challenging lines we could find and built a course that was three minutes of intense technical rock garden and big drops in the 10 foot range along the way. My teammate was affiliated with Spooky cycles so I had a chance to ride with Frank and factory rider Tattoo Lou on our practice run and they loved what we made. Funny story to add: We were cleaning up the trail to ride one spring and a park ranger came up and remarked that she never knew this was here. LOL

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    SO RAD! Tattoo Lou was my teammate for a couple of years and a dear friend. We had some pretty wild adventures on the road together. Drove like 5k plus miles with him one year. So cool when you can get a hidden gem to enjoy...especially when it's local! -Simon

  • @oldkayakdude
    @oldkayakdude10 ай бұрын

    That's really odd, I have always nailed my front foot turns but struggled with the back. BTW I've worked for the past 20 years to become more ambidextrous with my feet when riding which makes me more comfy at speed and allows me to rest/recover on long descents.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    @@gweflj While the angles might reflect that it should be easier, it's WAY tougher for most riders. I teach about 1,000 riders per year in person, and it takes a lot to get people to their front foot. BUT, with practice it can, and often does, become the riders favorite side. Linnea prefers her front foot turn now. Thanks for the comment. -Simon

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    A few riders do feel that way, but I'll just say from teaching this for over 20 years that it is rare. There are some inherent advantages to the front foot turn, but most riders ride a bit too far back to be able to access it. -Simon

  • @gpschutt

    @gpschutt

    10 ай бұрын

    Wonder if being left-handed but non goofy is one of the challenges because my weak side is also my RH turn.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    @@gpschutt Yeah, that could take a bit of practice. You have both your front foot turn and your non dominant upper body side to work with. I've worked with a lot of left handed left foot forward riders and have seen tremendous results. Keep on practicing! -Simon

  • @SoGoMTB
    @SoGoMTB10 ай бұрын

    amazing. now i know.

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc10 ай бұрын

    So what about "goofy" riders? I ride strong foot forward which seems to be the opposite of most people. Does that mean my turns are naturally more even?

  • @mtbmike6414
    @mtbmike641410 ай бұрын

    🙌 yes my right hand turn sucks just what I was trying to learn keep up the great videos when is her next enduro race ?!?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    I hear you. It's why I got interested in learning about riding...could....not...turn...right! Linnea has been racing cross country this year. We are going to the alps soon though, so she'll be ripping lots of downhill tracks next month.

  • @mtbmike6414

    @mtbmike6414

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride 🔥 DH video!!! 🙌🙌🙌

  • @petedog9581
    @petedog958110 ай бұрын

    This is great tutorial, but I have to say this fundamental has always been intuitive to me. Head up and after spotting the entry, look immediately through the turn. Then, it is easier to set up the front foot turn. It is def harder when riding in dense forest with limited sight-lines.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Awesome. I'll just say you are one of the few🙂I'd say about 90% of the riders I work with have no front foot turn when they start with me...including the pros. And yeah, everything is harder when the going gets technical! Thanks for tuning in. -Simon

  • @petedog9581

    @petedog9581

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride ..and at speed wo braking excessively into the turn. Some terrain demands this tech but often I can rachet pedal and change the the lead foot to my right. I too am a left forward rider. That is possible on flatter terrain at slower speeds, but a steep downhill right-hander doesn't allow that. Great breakdown.

  • @stuartsmith8677
    @stuartsmith867710 ай бұрын

    Love you tutorials. Now, please for the love of God, put that break cable on the inside of the fork leg Simon. 😉

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Ha! I know! I took it to the shop and it came back that way. I just took it in for a quick tune and asked them to put it where it should be and they forgot. So surprised you are the first to see it. Lol! Thought for sure this would be the first comment!

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket10 ай бұрын

    What do you recommend doing with the crank angle when set in a turn? Front and back feet no longer remain front and back if the crank rotates 90°, and now it's upper and lower foot.

  • @richardkaz2336
    @richardkaz233610 ай бұрын

    I never corner right or left foot forward. It's always which foot is down. Right turn left foot down with weight on the pedal and left up. Left turn right foot down with weight on that pedal.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    That's the way we used to turn until about 2002. Interesting if you watch older downhill videos, you will see that. Not wrong at all, but the modern footwork does have some inherent advantages. I used to ride the way you are describing. It took a while to learn this, but has been a huge game changer for me. With the foot already down, it's very difficult to change the apex of a turn or to deal with a decreasing radius turn. If a turn gets tighter as it goes on, being able to respond is really helpful. Also nearly impossible to generate speed in a cupped berm with the foot all the way down. Much harder to learn this than the old school way, but I do recommend you give it a try. Thanks for tuning in! -Simon

  • @elias.f.
    @elias.f.10 ай бұрын

    Hi! Can you please make a video on very narrow (about pedal width) switchbacks?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Funny you mention that. We are filming one on Thursday. Will be showing drills to work on technique, followed by some really tight trails! Not sure when it will be out, but stay tuned! -Simon

  • @Mish913
    @Mish91310 ай бұрын

    Great video, thank you! Do you have any suggestions for someone who can't seem to not drop the outside pedal? I have difficulties keeping my feet level even if I think about it.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes. Practice coasting in a basic environment and keeping your feet level. Then do some compressions through your legs while keeping the feet level so you are compressing the suspension without the use of your arms. Then coast with your feet level and practice slightly rotating the back foot down and then bringing back to level. Repeat the same with the front foot. Do this drill a LOT and you should start to gain control over your footwork. I hope this helps! -Simon

  • @Mish913

    @Mish913

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride thank you Simon. I'm also looking into trying to do one of your weekend courses where you do the basic one that's required to do the advanced cornering. I'd be coming down from Canada so I need to find a weekend that does both.

  • @45graham45
    @45graham4510 ай бұрын

    In surfing & snowboarding the terms natural & goofy footed are used by everyone. I have never heard them being used in biking though. Why not? It would be useful imo. Fyi, I'm natural footed like the both of you.

  • @hambo76
    @hambo7610 ай бұрын

    Can't wait to put this into practice! Quick question - do you encourage rides to always stick to the same foot forward or is there a right time to switch?

  • @franklee6301

    @franklee6301

    10 ай бұрын

    He answers this question in the first two minutes. 😂 Don't switch is their theory.

  • @stevengoodwin3154

    @stevengoodwin3154

    10 ай бұрын

    If you blind run for races, practice both sides. Otherwise, get great at flow with the same foot forward. 😊

  • @hambo76

    @hambo76

    10 ай бұрын

    @@franklee6301 I don't mean between turns, I mean for the whole trail. Like you always return to a specific stance on the bike, do you also return to the same foot forward?

  • @hambo76

    @hambo76

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stevengoodwin3154 Thanks :)

  • @benoc9966

    @benoc9966

    10 ай бұрын

    Some corners you may need to actually drop a foot, in which case you are absolutely going to be changing which side is dropped.

  • @gweflj
    @gweflj10 ай бұрын

    If it’s a long turn with no support, I drop and weigh the outside pedal. Seemed to work for Fabien Barrel.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, that is actually what this video is about! On longer, flatter and particularly off camber turns, the riders outside foot might end up all the way down. Fabien actually does what we are saying here...he's one of the many riders I've used in my study of the sport. We used to push the outside foot all the way down in all turns, but that has changed over the years. Rad that Fabien is still ripping the e-bike enduro scene. -Simon

  • @dylansalt1
    @dylansalt110 ай бұрын

    Slightly confused- I’m assuming you switch pedal stances ie for right turns left foot down & right pedal up & for left turns left pedal up & right foot down - When I’m going down tight twisty enduro style rooty, rocky single track I do it this way to avoid pedal strikes when cranking into the turn

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Dylan - We think of this like a teeter totter around the bottom bracket: The front foot always remains in the front, and the rear foot always remains in the rear, while both feet rotate up and down depending on the turn. So we're switching which foot is *dipping*, but not which foot is in front. I hope this helps - it sounds like you're doing it all correctly! -Linnea. We can always bring in Simon for more detail too 🤣if you still have questions!

  • @alpine7891

    @alpine7891

    10 ай бұрын

    Plus mega tight switchbacks it helps to switch to be able to use the back leg to swing the bike around.

  • @freddobar6498
    @freddobar649810 ай бұрын

    If your shifting your weight forward on a turn with massive breaking bumps and rough terrain how can you resist the forces that will throw you to the bars?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    When it's super rough, I do keep my feet more level. That said, we'll be showing some astounding footage of World Cup pros making front foot turn in very rough conditions. Amazing to watch! -Simon

  • @hopnglo680
    @hopnglo68010 ай бұрын

    Hey Simon: Do you still feel like the stem cell therapy was helpful? My left hip is not good and I’m trying everything to avoid surgery. Thank you.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    I do. I've had 6 or 7 procedures, and all have worked....and most importantly...have lasted. Not sure everyone benefits like I have, but I feel super fortunate to have my doc be so helpful.

  • @powskier
    @powskier10 ай бұрын

    What about if you change to much shorter cranks?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    That should just make controlling your footwork and particularly your front foot turn a lot easier.

  • @xanthoptica
    @xanthoptica10 ай бұрын

    Starting my 4th decade of riding MTB, I'm going to strongly urge everyone from thinking of themselves as a "left-foot-forward" or "right-foot-forward" rider. You need to be able to do everything in either stance, partly to be ready for whatever you find on the trail, but also to save your knees. The rear knee is typically more heavily loaded, and being able to switch stances will let you get more riding out of your knees as a set...especially if you like stuff like park riding that is almost all done out of the saddle.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    While this is great in theory, it's very uncommon that riders can ride in both stances safely. Currently no riders in the World Cup ride switch anywhere. BUT, I always tell riders that if you CAN do it, you should switch, but not from turn to turn but rather for entire sections of trail just to add to the balance of the body as you say. I might get a couple people per year (out of 1,000) that can do this safely during in person classes. None of them have been the pros I teach. Wish I were more comfortable right foot forward. I demo a lot in classes for riders who have that stance and have done so for well over a decade and still can only do basic stuff that way. -Simon

  • @xanthoptica

    @xanthoptica

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride Almost nobody is going to be able to do a switch stance well on the spot. It takes quite a bit of practice...but that's likely because people settle into one stance early in their riding career and essentially practice one stance all the time. No wonder it's hard to catch up! But with some patience and determination that imbalance can be reversed...and even better, you can coach young riders (like I do) to do everything in both stances from the get-go. They will get longer riding careers as a result of evening out the stress on their knees and ankles. After a couple of years of work, I've gotten pretty symmetrical, and man, does it help on long descents or bike park days. And yeah, not switching every turn, but every couple of minutes on a long downhill. I do wonder if downhill racers could benefit from tactically switching stance to match the course. We just don't know, because nobody seems to have put the effort in to get equally good in either stance, and then try it out on course, right?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    @@xanthoptica I think we might see some crafty stuff in the future. We'll see. I simply teach what the best riders in the world do. I don't do kids instruction, but am stoked to hear you are working on getting them to ride switch as well. Certainly healthier!

  • @Coolcmsc
    @Coolcmsc10 ай бұрын

    You quietly slipped in, “..able to jump off your front foot” [when your front knee is over the ball of your front foot]. Such a big deal. You could emphasise that specifically. GET ABLE TO JUMP OFF YOUR FRONT FOOT how it should be said. In fact, at pace, you MUST push your bike down (by doing a jumping movement) with the front foot in the turn. I keep forgetting. It’s hard because a lot of reasons. One not mentioned today is because the front foot is usually the non dominant one (you said that) but it is therefore also the LESS coordinated foot. So, it’s harder to trust. The reps with the cones do a lot of things. The main one is gaining trust and the muscle memory in the front leg (foot).

  • @jimwing.2178

    @jimwing.2178

    9 ай бұрын

    He's wrong about jumping off the ball of the foot. To get the maximum height from a standing high jump, everybody will start from a position of the feet flat on the ground. Nobody would first lean forward and get their heels of the ground. This is all moot anyway, because MTBers don't jump to make turns.

  • @vincentohanlon
    @vincentohanlon10 ай бұрын

    Sorry I'm a little confused. So a front foot turn is actually turning the opposite way to the foot that is at the front? So if you're left foot front the turn is to the right?

  • @benoc9966

    @benoc9966

    10 ай бұрын

    The back foot will always be dominate, so if you are left food forward, turning 'left' will be harder. They are saying not to change foot position but to work on making the forward foot technique stronger. Try doing cutties with each side, you will notice which one is easier.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    It can be confusing to learn for sure. Just as with walking or trail running or doing any bi-pedal sport, the right leg turns the human body left and the left leg turns it right. So yes, if you are left foot forward, you would press your front foot to turn right. I often have students get up on their feet and just feel this while walking or running. It can simplify the understanding of the technique. Really we are trying to be the best possible bi-pedal athletes we can while working over this platform. Get up and walk and notice what happens if you step on you left foot and turn right...then try turning left off your left foot. This is a super convincing way to feel this. Hope this helps! -Simon

  • @jkeiffer
    @jkeiffer10 ай бұрын

    Questions... Does it matter which leg is dominant and therefore which to put forward? My right leg is dominant, should I make it the forward or rearward foot? Because biking isn't exactly the same as skateboarding or snowboarding. Or maybe someone has some dysfunction that makes it better to use the other foot forward or backwards? I'm not sure my question is clear enough...

  • @benoc9966

    @benoc9966

    10 ай бұрын

    I find it the same as with a board sport. Dominant is the back foot (So right foot back is normal, left foot goofy) so on a bike, that is also the back foot which means turning left you have more control and power. Some people do switch this around I find but that's less common.

  • @jkeiffer

    @jkeiffer

    10 ай бұрын

    @@benoc9966 I ride board sports with my dominant right foot forward and I'm pretty sure that means goofy. For example, I use my dominant right foot to steer the board as I kick with my left foot. Now I'm just confused. LOL

  • @xpankakex19

    @xpankakex19

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jkeiffer Ride whatever feels most comfortable. You're not "supposed" to ride either way, just do what feels best and practice that! I'm also a right side dominate, right side forward rider/boarder

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Go with what is comfortable for you. I'm right foot forward on a board and left foot forward on a bike. MOST riders put their stronger leg in the back, but there are a number of world class riders who lead with their stronger leg. -Simon

  • @Frorideism
    @Frorideism10 ай бұрын

    Idk, my biggest weakness in mtb is my wallet

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    HA! Yeah...love this!

  • @user-gr2py7kz7z
    @user-gr2py7kz7z10 ай бұрын

    I am a right foot forward rider. On tight steep turns, I don't have a problem with left turns. It is my right turns that I have a problem. Why would that be the case?

  • @xpankakex19

    @xpankakex19

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm the same way, right foot forward, right foot dominate - from their vid it seems like turning towards your dominate foot side is always harder because you're using your weaker/less coordinated foot to drive

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, this is likely because you are riding with your dominant foot in the front, which is totally fine. Just not as common as putting it in the back. You might need more practice with your back foot turns. We do see this about 10% of the time. -Simon

  • @user-gr2py7kz7z

    @user-gr2py7kz7z

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fluidride But that is not the case for me. My back foot (left) is my dominate. I''m also left handed and left side dominate for everything I do.

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    @@user-gr2py7kz7z Hard to know the mysteries of the human body. Stay tuned for an upcoming episode on back foot turns as it sounds like that is where you need work. I spoke with a kinesiology professor who told me that humans are pre-disposed to turning left due to extra connections low in our spinal cord. Obviously there are no absolutes with the human body, but it's interesting. While your issue with corners is uncommon I have certainly seen this in riders before. This is why in the title we say 'most' not 'all' in the title of the video. Keep working on your back foot turns, and be sure you left hand turn is being properly accessed by your front foot. Without seeing you, it's really tough to say what is going on. We do offer video review services if you are ever interested. Can be super helpful for riders. Cheers for now. -Simon

  • @yuglobalcitizen2246
    @yuglobalcitizen22469 ай бұрын

    So is this like 12 and 6 o clock switching back and forth?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    9 ай бұрын

    Not necessarily going all the way to 6/12 but yes, like a teeter totter in a park. One foot goes back to turn in one direction and the other goes forward to turn in the other direction. Depends on your lead foot. Lots of videos about this on this channel. I hope this helps! -Simon

  • @user-gg5be8kd1e
    @user-gg5be8kd1e10 ай бұрын

    Omg I think you just fixed my Zoolander syndrome

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣 We love Zoolander references!

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide10 ай бұрын

    Unless you have very rapid turns, why not put the outside pedal down at 6 o'clock?

  • @Fluidride

    @Fluidride

    10 ай бұрын

    Makes it nearly impossible to change lines in a turn or deal with a closing (or decreasing radius) turn. With this technique, you can respond in real time to the details of the turn. There are a number of other inherently helpful things about this. If my bike slides, the outside foot will automatically rotate and 'chase the slide'. For riders racing in packs, they can use this to pass others who don't have this technique. For riders racing DH or riding techy descents, they can fine tune within a turn. On berms, we can generate forward momentum which is not possible with the outside foot all the way down. I think I'll make a video about this, so thanks for this great question! I'll also add that it isn't wrong to do what you suggest, just not as good as using modern footwork. If you want to geek out on this, check out old DH videos from 2000 or before and you will see riders doing what you are talking about. Then fast forward about ten years and you will see riders doing what we are teaching. All my teaching comes from observation of the worlds best riders, and this is what they ALL do now. The big change happened around 2002 when Sam Hill became the dominant descender by using this technique. Hope this helps! -Simon

  • @dirtsurfernz
    @dirtsurfernz10 ай бұрын

    Good stuff 🤘 (All the armchair coaches in the comments are hilarious 😂)

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