Thank you! You earned another sub for this great, detailed review.

@Belatu42

4 күн бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the sub! This is really a good one. I’m a bit biased though, since a good chunk of my real world time is in this type.

Nice video. I'm going to pick it up and try out the autos myself :) Excited to see they look pretty good!

@Belatu42

29 күн бұрын

Thanks! It autos like a dream! I had to learn some new reference points since it differs so much from the Robinsons I fly IRL...It's very forgiving though, like a ship with a high inertia rotor should be!

@Belatu42

28 күн бұрын

Ha! I got this response confused with another bird I’m flying right now…autos are very close to how the real thing responds. This addon is one off the first helis in MSFS where I was able to recover rotor rpm during autos, and the needles split!

I purchased this helicopter and it is truly the most realistic helicopter till now on MSFS. Everything is spot on.

@Belatu42

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, this is one of the good ones! I may be a little biased though, since most of my real world time is in this type :)

Dam!! What a great review. Going full out in depth!

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! This is one of the best helicopters for MSFS so far!

Thanks for the review. The split screen is very helpful.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback!

Very Nice vid captain!

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback

Well done ❤ subscribed

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Been waiting for a R22 or R44, I will pick this up as soon as I get home after work for sure.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

It’s a good representation. I think Cowansim is working on an R44, but there is also a decent free one from RedHeron/RSP on Flightsim.to

@nvstewart

2 ай бұрын

@@Belatu42 I ended up buying the R22, along with their 222B and the H125. All are great to fly.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Great! More helis for the win!

Love 💕 this chopper

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Me too! It’s a blast to fly in the sim and for real!

A definite buy then.

@Belatu42

3 ай бұрын

For sure! It’s a good one

Great video, and thanks for talking about the governor. What's exactly the effect when you turn it off while flying? I'm not seeing any difference between itt being on and/or off while flying.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

If it’s off, your engine and rotor rpm won’t be automatically managed. It does work. If you’re just cruising along you won’t notice much change in rpm, but if you are maneuvering, you’ll see the rpm fluctuate out of the green arcs and you’ll have to manage the throttle manually to get them back in the green.

Not a heli guy but will take your word for it. May consider it. Have not picked up any payware helis for MSFS!

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

It’s a really good representation. What type of flying do you usually prefer? The R22 is a really hands on, fully manual flying machine.

Thanks for the video. How would you compare this one to it's bigger R66 brother? Trying to decide between these two, flying with a center spring stick (TM Airbus stick), which one do you feel is easier to trim out?

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! The R66 is going to feel heavier, more stable and more powerful. They “should” both trim for your joystick about the same, but the R66 being more stable should be easier. I don’t have a center spring joystick so I don’t use trim in the sim.

Just got this, its so nice to fly. I am afraid not as good as you though. I can fly RC helicopters, nitro or electric no probs but these are a different beast. I would like to ask a question if i may. When flying this or any helicopter like this one, when i make a turn, either a steep or slow turn, do you use the rudder also with the cyclic or just the cyclic. For me when i put a bunch of rudder in with the cyclic the Heli seems to snap. If i just use the cyclic it seems smoother in the turns but takes longer to get around. I hope you understand what i mean. I was trying to watch your rudder movements but couldn't quite see the operation.

@Belatu42

29 күн бұрын

Thanks! Most of my time is in the 22. You don’t coordinate your turns with the pedal like you do in fixed wing or Rc helis. It’s an anti-torque rotor. You mostly use it for heading changes in a hover and to counter changes in torque or collective. With rotorcraft, the lift and thrust both come from the rotor.

@menacegtr

29 күн бұрын

@@Belatu42 thank you so much for your reply, that makes perfect sense and helps immensely. 😀

Currently i do not fly helicopters in MSFS but i would like too,would this be a good place to start? I currently fly the Cessna 152 and the A320 so would be great to get some Heli flying. Nice video and very informative.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Hi Dobbo, the best place to start is with the Guimbal Cabri G2. It’s free and already in the game. You can get the hang of helicopters before buying an addon. The R22 is very good and realistic, but may be a bit of a handful for a first heli. Check out my How to Helisim videos for tips starting out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJV1zLibnqm1pag.htmlsi=RTmZLjlStj_GDcH1

Did you ever try the Aerofly FS2 Simulation R22? If yes which flight model feels more realistic to you? Thanks a lot for any input.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I have tried the AFS2 R22, it was good at the time, but I actually feel that this one and the default XP12 R22 fly closer to the real thing.

@christoph2517

2 ай бұрын

@@Belatu42 Thank you for that quick feedback. I will try the Cowan then I guess

I have the same problem with the throttle and governor! I have a Pro Flight Trainer PUMA X B-style and the governor just won't let go of the throttle!

@Belatu42

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! I'm pretty sure it's a sim limitation. Seb mentioned in the dev livestream that they have done a lot of work on helicopters for SU15. Hopefully this is one of the items that get addressed

Have sim controls ordered, but I am computer spec illiterate. Do you have a video or a suggestion on your computer build/vr setup?

@Belatu42

12 күн бұрын

Hi! Mark at SimHangar has a couple of good videos on PCs. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXuZvNFylMm2mJs.htmlsi=W4T2rhN4GoNlEMUS kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKuls65paNernbA.htmlsi=GFXLFpIjkSmGOfyZ

Hi, nice video. Im using puma x aswell, wondring if you have done any settings in the controls sensitivity tab inside mfsf? I'm also stuggeling with the guvernor. Sometimes it works sometimes not. Been flying IRL so I know how it should work. Br Nicolai

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I keep my curves full linear with the PFT Puma. It feels pretty close to the real throws, just missing the tactile feedback. The governor is another issue in MSFS. It’s hard to get it to “let go” of the throttle. For now I turn off the governor for auto practice. Hopefully it gets improved. I’ve had success doing autos with it on, but it’s not consistent.

@EW2023-ik8vz

2 ай бұрын

​@@Belatu42 How i can Turn Off the govenor?

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

In the control options bind a button to toggle governor

Some things can be overlooked such as external bits and bobs but I would have thought that simulating the blades spinning only once the clutch is engaged would be a biggie and the governor differences/engine rpm (unless that was your throttle issue) as well is a bit disappointing to hear. I am not a helicopter pilot but I like to think that if I had to fly the real thing then ideally I wouldn't be seeing any obvious differences in the actual mechanical/physical operational reality. I mean they must have used a least one R44 experienced pilot surely to test the sim modelling so didn't that person at least think to say "hang on why are those blades rotating when I haven't engaged the clutch ?". Thanks for the great review. I don't have such an issue with the choice of music - my only comment is I like to hear the engine actually start up without any music distraction. Good to hear that the handling is accurate though and for that reason and your recommendation I am sure I'll be adding it to my collection. Cheers !

@David..B

2 ай бұрын

the blades don't spin until i engage the clutch with my install, the flight model like all cowinsim models i have flown, you hardly need any anti torque pedal use, very very little in all phases of flight. all assists off and modern flight models.

@vinnydiehl8223

2 ай бұрын

I fly R22s IRL, when the clutch is properly tensioned the blades start to turn as soon as the engine starts cranking, and will slowly spin until the clutch is engaged, then they start to speed up. What does happen is as you get into the warmer months, the belts expand and sit looser on the sheaves, so they don’t start turning until you hit the clutch. It’s no big deal as long as you have movement within 5 seconds, but we adjust the clutch with the seasons to keep a little bit of tension on them (belt should only deflect an inch and a half when you press it inward, if you don’t have blade movement on startup it’s definitely looser than this).

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I’ll have to look into this further. In FlightswithJoel’s video, I noticed that the blades started to spin, but then stopped when he started it but hadn’t engaged the clutch. In the real thing, you don’t idle the engine with the clutch disengaged. You flip the alternator and clutch switch as soon as it starts and has a good oil pressure reading. It happens fast. The pedal requirement is another topic. The Cowansim R66 does it better.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I’ve not had the same experience with the R22 that I fly. With the belts tensioned properly, one knuckle deflection, or about 1-1/2”, the blades don’t turn on startup. I did have one flight where the belts were tensioned to tight and the blades did spin while starting, and it was a bitch to get it started that day.

@vinnydiehl8223

2 ай бұрын

@@Belatu42 Interesting. Was it very cold out? It's always pretty warm where I live, even in the winter (we don't even have primers installed, just a quick throttle twist on the first startup of the day), so maybe we can get away with keeping them tighter. I'll have to ask the A&Ps about it.

Co to jest za pasażer w białych butach? Skąd go wziąłeś?

@Belatu42

12 күн бұрын

Hi! Thanks for the feedback! You can add or remove the passenger in the weight & balance tool. Put the minimum weight (in parenthesis) in the box and the 3D model will be visible.

Have you tried the X-Plane 11/12 R22? And if so, which is more realistic to fly? Sorry if you already answered this in the video.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I mentioned the XP12 version in the video, but not for comparison. I haven’t spent enough time with this one yet, but aside from the sim differences, they both feel pretty similar to the real thing with my control setup. I would say that the XP12 version has a slight edge on system depth and failures, but again, those are sim limitations.

@grgryl

2 ай бұрын

@@Belatu42 Thanks, I already have XP12 so I might not get the FS2020 R22 if they are similar in flight dynamics. I did only one Discovery flight in a real R22 and hovering was easier than I thought. Just more tiring because the cyclic was stiff feeling

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Ha! For sure! Driving home after a flight, your car feels like it’s numb because the helicopter you were just in vibrates so much!

The manifold pressure is way too erratic

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. It’s much more stable IRL. It also doesn’t jump when you move the cyclic either. The torque gauge does as well in turbine helis. I think it has more to do with the way the flight model in MSFS works at moment

Is it available for Xbox?

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I saw in the dev update yesterday that it is on the marketplace for PC & XBox…

Will it come to Xbox?

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure it will, all of the other Cowansim helis have. It just takes a minute…don’t buy the Mscenery R22, make sure you wait for this one.

@SamuelTimney

2 ай бұрын

I will

Nice helicopter, but not spending a dime on something that's not complete anymore. Sorry.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

No apologies needed. This one is the most complete of any helicopter yet for the sim. What doesn’t seem complete to you?

@tasercs

2 ай бұрын

I love my CowanSim B206 (whether it is strictly accurate or not) but I have to say that the promise of updates many and often for the 500E/B222 and the 206 are just not many or often enough. I can accept that it is hard work for a small company but all of the CowanSim products have had many similar issues, including the ridiculous sound disturbances that are linked to multiplayer that have been present for well over a year now. Add to that water droplets appearing on the inside of the cockpit gauges in rain conditions in anything over the lowest setting for windshield detail, missing external nav lights, unreadable GPS displays that are too dim on all of the recent updates...and you begin to see a pattern. Priority is being diverted to new aircraft before fixing existing ones. Based on forum posts, I would say a lot of the loyal customers of CowanSim are more than frustrated by this trend. They (and I) have invested a lot of money and that should count for more than it seems to. I would reluctantly agree, that I am not going to spend any more on CS products either unless I see that things are changing.

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

All of the CS helis have had several updates. I haven’t encountered the bugs that you listed. I like their products and am happy with the feedback and support, but not everyone has the same expectations. You have every right to speak with your wallet. I feel that they are actually better than most developers.

Appreciate the time you take to produce these videos, but have to question why you all but ruin them with the awful background music. There has to be an alternative. Listen at 4:20 There is no excuse on God's earth for that awful sound. This is where i checked out, and why i hit the thumbs down button.

@Belatu42

3 ай бұрын

You are welcome to your opinion and I appreciate the feedback.

@xINTENSORx

2 ай бұрын

The music is not that bad.

@4secsharkmr352

2 ай бұрын

Why a thumbs down only because of the music. The video is brilliant. Yeah, and the music is disturbing. But all in all, it's a very good video. Thumbs up, of course😊

@Belatu42

2 ай бұрын

I get bored watching videos that have empty space, so I fill my empty space with music. I’m working on getting better at sound editing so I can keep the audio levels more normalized and not let the music be intrusive…you can’t make all of the people happy, all of the time :) so I do what works for me.

I'm using a collective/cyclic/pedaI I bought and I can't get my governor to work.

@Belatu42

5 күн бұрын

Do you have a binding to toggle the governor assigned? Or did you flip the switch at the end of the collective?