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@kingspal99

3 ай бұрын

didn't watch other...that is the wollyvine

I'm sad you could not hear me yelling "DON'T DO IT!!" Years ago it was late winter, very early spring and I had a bad case of PI that just about went systemic because I did not know what it was. . After being diagnosed with PI I spent time looking on line for more information and reflecting back on possible exposure. I remembered while cleaning out the garden a couple weeks prior, seeing - and peeling off - a hairy vine clinging to the brick wall. Not fun! I really hope your experiment did not cause you grief!!!

I’ve been extremely sensitive my whole life (2-5 reactions per year as long as I can remember, including winter) and have therefore done a ton of research into this topic as well as having insane amounts of experience. Urushiol can and will be transferred to you or your clothing from any part of the plant at any time of year or stage of growth - including completely dead. Urushiol is stable for up to 10 years in the plant and on porous surfaces. It can be easily broken down and rendered inert by isopropyl alcohol, however - including on the skin, provided it has not absorbed deeply yet (~10 minutes on average). High heat washes help remove it from clothing. The rash is actually not an allergic reaction - Urushiol doesn’t harm the body on its own. The rash is a false immune response, which is why repeated/early exposure to poison ivy tends to make people MORE sensitive, rather than less sensitive as is often seen with allergies. People who were never exposed to Urushiol as a child have been shown to be less likely to be reactive. Mangoes actually contain Urushiol and can make extremely sensitive people break out. I could write pages on this topic, honestly. My biggest tips: every study ever done has shown oral antihistamines (Benadryl) to be SIGNIFICANTLY more effective at relieving symptoms (itching) than any topical antihistamine (like Calamine). Antihistamines don’t actually reduce the severity or duration of the rash. Regular application of apple cider vinegar can reduce the severity and duration of the rash, along with providing short term itch relief, at the cost of burning like hell when you first put it on. If you think you’ve been exposed, douse with rubbing alcohol and/or wash with soap and water ASAP. Sweat and water without soap will spread the oil across your body. Rubbing alcohol in a mist spray bottle is a great way to neutralize oil on fabrics and tools. The oil will spread to everything you touch until you wash it off or neutralize it and re-exposure will make things so much worse. Also, Urushiol in open wounds or a large enough exposure can cause a systemic reaction resulting in rash and itch in places that were not exposed to the oil. Finally, the only OTC product I have ever found that genuinely stops the rash and significantly reduces duration and symptoms (or prevents it almost entirely if you use it before the rash appears) is called Zanfel. It has a picture of a guy with the rash on his face on the front, it’s on Amazon & Walmart and it’s a lot cheaper in the winter. I hope someone else who has suffered as badly as I have sees this and is helped by it…if anyone wants more details or has questions feel free to ask.

@pattiannepascual

2 ай бұрын

❤ Thank you so much for all this information.Your time spent studying is so very appreciated. Hoping many see your post and it avoid them the agony of poison ivy. I do landscaping as one of my jobs. The more careful I am,more I try to avoid it, the more I get the rash.I will be ordering that Zan product for sure.I carry a tupperware stuffed with wipes soaked in alcohol. It really helps but for the spots i miss,i really needed to know about a good product,as very few work and are very expensive.Again,thank you a million times.❤🙏

Here in the South, people will swear that Virginia creeper is poison oak, because they know what poison ivy looks like and got a rash. What they missed was the P ivy that was growing amongst the VA creeper, due to similar pH preferences.

Thanks for this very helpful quality content! My outdoorsy family is reactive to poison ivy to levels requiring hospital visits, so the more info, the better! It's also important to remember not to burn it to risk breathing the smoke, or stand under a poison ivy-covered tree in the rain, and if you're doing the laundry of someone who has been tromping around outside, it's best to assume you've been exposed to it and take extra care cleaning up afterwards!

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Agreed!

My worst reaction, and I'm not terribly sensitive, was when I was planting fruit trees in a field without any poison ivy plants around. But there were runners underground and i was elbow deep in the holes and spoils. Now in addition to all of the other precautions I wash with lukewarm water and DAWN dish soap after playing in the dirt. I wash my gloves afterwards now too.

Great video! In north GA we have something called, woodvamp (Hydrangea barbara). It also has a very "hairy" vine. They look a lot closer to PI, imho. Very sneaky. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

I was taught in master naturalist classes that the stems are unlikely to cause a reaction unless you're particularly allergic. It has much much less of the urisol oils than the leaves of the plants, so most people won't notice anything. But if you are particularly allergic you might. Also fun fact if you ate a lot of mango growing up, particularly with the skins, you may be totally immune!

I’m not allergic to poison ivy or oak. It’s the oil in the plant that causes the reaction. So it’s reasonable to believe that colder temperatures prevent the transfer of little to no oils.

@thechad4485

5 ай бұрын

I have no reaction as well. Warmer temperatures may lead to an easier transfer of the oils as the oils will have a lower viscosity than in colder temperatures. So while the oils may still be present, you’d need a more aggressive handling of the plant to transfer, but I guess we’ll wait and see.

@davidmgilbreath

5 ай бұрын

Heat, resulting in sweating, plays into it as well.

This experiment scares me! Also, it would be helpful to include climbing hydrangea (Decumaria barbara; syn. = Hydrangea barbara) and winter creeper (Euonymus fortunei) in this comparison. These are 2 additional hairy lianas often found in the Southeast region.

It’s an oil so it must still be present within the plant but without cutting it my guess is that it’s safe

we have virginia creeper all over the place at home. My mom wont stop calling it poison ivy, but it doesnt look at all like poison ivy to me. Some people DO have a skin irritation reaction to virginia creepers though! Virginia creeper can be destructive and has invasive behaviors in certain environments. We leave ours and just prune it, because we find it quite pretty, and the birds seem to love it. It was originally planted in many places for the color it gets and the way the berries look. On homes, it can provide extra insulation, but care has to be taken to be sure the roots and vines do not do damage to the walls and foundation

@canislupusminecraft2670

5 ай бұрын

My mom gets a bad reaction to Virginia Creeper, but is not effected by poisson ivy. One time my mom was pulling Virginia Creeper and got really bad itchy rashes for about a week.

I knew beforehand that it would be Virginia creeper. Some people can get a rash from creeper as well... I visited our local Lowe's (home improvement) mid- May and they had pots of Virginia creeper for sale... yes, it's beautiful in the fall, with its pink stems with purple berries on the end, and fiery red leaves, but why buy such an aggressive native plant?

😅 I know this is wrong of me, but I'm so curious! I've accidentally touched poison ivy out of season before and had no reaction, but my usual reaction is still very mild anyway. I work in outdoor education so I'm one of the people who tells people to leave it alone all year round, but I've wondered since having my own off-season contact if I'm spreading mis-information. On the other hand, I don't want to put people at risk by telling them it's fine when it might just be my personally mild reaction. Can't wait to hear the results of your experiment!

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

I'm very excited to share it with you! Conducting one final test right now and I'll be ready to show the results.

Thanks

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Very welcome!

@eloisebennett1673

5 ай бұрын

What would you use as an antidote for poison ivy? Calamine? Jeweled salve or lotion? Other?

@timkopp2204

5 ай бұрын

​@@eloisebennett1673pvc cleaner. Not the purple! Lol

I've Had to deal with PI for 71 years. I hate it it makes me really sick. So I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for it. I live in FL and I've never seen berries on it. That's weird.

cant wait to see if this dose anything You usually have to brake the stems or leaved to get a reaction. The oils on the outside aren't nearly as potent. and a large number of people aren't allergic at all. Poison ivy is so interesting

Very fine video, and you answered some questions for me.

My father didn't get poison ivy till he turned 40. I did the same thing except when I get poison ivy, I usually only get a couple small bumps near or on my fingers. I just don't scratch it and it goes away soon. I swear by Tecnu.

Very informative!! Thank you

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Very welcome!

Hi, please add full CCs if possible! the auto generated ones have errors and omissions and are otherwise comparably insufficient compared to CCs manually done by a human.

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Done! Sorry, I usually do this, but it slipped past me on this one.

Ive learned more in 3 days than years in churches. Thank you. Glad Jesus called you.

Yes, we could leave the distant PI vines in our yard for berries, but won’t doing so cause the vines to spread into areas of our yard where we could be threatened? I have a horrible systemic allergy, so it’s a big problem. What is the best way to remove these vines if one is very allergic?

As usual, I like all of your videos and an subscribed! 😂 My answer: No! Once I caught it from firewood in the winter. By the way, how did it turn out for you?

In a dendrology class, the professor and assistant who also run the university herbarium had jokes about years-old pressed poison ivy--if you're sensitive, you can still get a reaction. The oil is on the whole plant. A root whipped me in a gap between my glove and sleeve. It was the pussiest experience I ever had. I've had minor reactions before. Don't know how much it came down to duration of exposure, area, or what. Previous exposures were brief twig contact. I don't think I even ran inside to wash up either way, so I don't think duration between contact and washing mattered. Of course, it could all be overanalyzing the plant and it was my body that had an opinion. I used to never have reactions. Ran barefoot in the backyard where a bunch was.

Yes it will. Urisol will still be present.

Pretty sure my sister and I pulled down poison ivy so we could tap a maple tree. Good thing neither of us are reactive. 😂

I have no idea if I'm allergic to it. I've never had any reaction, nor do I know if I've been exposed. I'm always careful about it, but I'm also always tramping around outside touching every plant and tree lol. I typically have sensitive skin and I'm in my mid 20s so I feel like by now I should have had at least one run in with the stuff. But I'm still afraid to experiment to find out. .... Honestly I might though, one day when its of little consequence but personal discomfort. just to see.

So if it's not there yet, it means it's not posted yet?

@FeralForaging

5 ай бұрын

Right. I am editing the video right now!

I am extremely allergic to poison ivy. I ended up in the emergency room one time after the cut end of a large vine touched my arm. Something about my T cells and all the previous reactions I’ve had over time. I think I get it just by looking at it. jk

My youngest son is highly allergic to Poison ivy, as his mother, I am NOT allergic to Poison ivy. I think he got my share of an allergic reaction to Poison ivy!?!🤔😱🤔😂

Plot twist: poison ivy us the cure for cancer.

Good luck with that lol 😆

So that's your idea of a fun experiment? Lol

If you have trees you shouldn't allow any vine to grow on the. If it's poison ivy , fig ,or any other vine is not doing the tree any good.

@xerrias

5 ай бұрын

not entirely true, there are many symbiotic relationships

@iainwalker8615

5 ай бұрын

Vines such as poison ivy, virginia creeper, and riverbank grape have been naturally growing on trees for thousands of years. These plants are beneficial for birds and other wildlife. They’re a part of the natural balance of the ecosystem so in my opinion it’s wrong to try to remove these plants just because they cause trees stress. If you have a tree on your property that you want to be healthy then removing vines from it in that situation would make sense, but I think the natural forests should be left alone except for native species conservation and invasive removal.