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@Landon657

3 жыл бұрын

Already following

@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002

3 жыл бұрын

Technically brutal melodic in theory metal

@ghostsinthesnow_makes_music

3 жыл бұрын

talk about FIDLAR!

@hechticgaming7193

3 жыл бұрын

aww man, you have to listen to the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures man. That album is so fucking influential and so damn good. The next one was that amazing though good, but Unknown Pleasures and the first track especially just grab you

@carlzombie6722

3 жыл бұрын

I love you Finn, but even tho Imma cool guy I'm not Hip enough for the Gram 😆 just hip to the fact my Brother...which is you're one of my favorite KZreadrs of ALL TIME ! One Love Bruv ❤✌💜💯💯💯🖤♠

The Smiths started the whole hating on your hometown thing, but Morrissey doesn't have any friends

@iiGODLYWARRIOR

3 жыл бұрын

seriously tho. His own band fucking hated him 😆🤘

@bobbyp8009

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiGODLYWARRIOR small price to pay, he’s got some of the most diehard fans worldwide

@jessenunez7205

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say I hate my hometown but I hate certain areas of it due to memories it brings back ya know?

@huggiedistance

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, who would want to be friends with him? His music may be good, but he's a total fascist.

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

@@huggiedistance I mean, even beyond that, before his bizarre politics became obvious, the guy was a huge asshole. Really strong songwriter, really unpleasant man. That said, Johnny Marr seems very chill.

It's insane how Yellowcard used their psychic powers to rip off a song that was written in 2011 when they wrote their 2003 hit Ocean Avenue.

@MEGAeyesWillDIE

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Lucky us. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to inform Fall Out Boy, Boys like Girls, All Time Low or any of the other countless pop punk bands that released a song about leaving their crappy town before 2010.

@nicoleeeooo

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@toddosterhout9866

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@nicoleeeooo

3 жыл бұрын

@DansWarped one is never good enough! 👀😂😂😂

@Leo4gzs

3 жыл бұрын

Came here looking for this comment

Saying Eddie Vedder's vocals aren't good would be hard to convince anyone of with how many vocal coaches praise the man as a legend

@CrustieDick18

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that yodel shit is what people don’t like, not his actual singing voice.

@treadstoned9915

3 жыл бұрын

The frustrating thing about him to me is you can hear he has a powerful voice and can do whatever he wants with it but he kinda stays one dimensional most of the time.

@stanbolkowy166

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrustieDick18 THANK YOU, vitilogy was "ok" but that's it, personally i leaned WAY more to Soundgarden(before they broke up the first time in 97) and "Layne era" Alice In Chains

@tomgreenfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@stanbolkowy166 tens better than sound garden!!!!

@stanbolkowy166

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomgreenfanlol ok bud, if you heard badmotorfinger and superunknown you wouldn't be saying that, and if you've heard them all then that's your opinion, and hey, opinions are free and non-conformative, more power to you if that's your taste

That DJ Paul and Lord Infamous flow sounds so similar to ASAP Ferg “Shabba” damn

@khalis6973

3 жыл бұрын

I mean the ASAP Mob members are basically southern rappers that just so happened to be from NY

@DrClocktopus1

3 жыл бұрын

Ferg is very up front about his influences with multiple references in most of his tracks.

@arrowsplayground

3 жыл бұрын

Alot of people think he is from Memphis.

@t6amygdala

3 жыл бұрын

I thought A$AP Nast’s verse on Yamborghini High was Juicy J for the longest time until I realised Juicy J only did ad libs for the song

@treasurehunter3369

3 жыл бұрын

They r very up front about their love for three 6

Last time I was this early, everyone copied Asking Alexandria instead of Architecs

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

Nice recycle!

@emanuelthecreator6164

3 жыл бұрын

@@briankerrigan3529 thanks dude, appreciate it!

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelthecreator6164 welcome, it really was a sincere compliment , btw, gonna link ya the vid from which I got that phrase. If you’ve yet to see this video, you so owe it to yourself. It’s comedy gold.

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelthecreator6164 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXiImpaBgaWufLA.html

@La_br00tal_mija

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

I saw an interview where Brendan Murphy was insulted that people said they were ripping off Architects, because “we’ve been ripping off Misery Signals for 10 years” lol

@MrMerzforthewin

3 жыл бұрын

I was totally down for the blatant misery signals influence. Interpretation is the sincerest form of flattery

@nightwingx0126

3 жыл бұрын

That dude is not only a great vocalist but he’s also hilarious I tell ya

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

See also people accusing Colin Meloy of The Decemberists of imitating Jeff Mangum from Neutral Milk Hotel only for him to say point blank that he's been doing a Michael Stipe impression for years and no-one noticed because his voice just sounds like that.

@NightElveee

3 жыл бұрын

I follow him on Twitter and he's for sure funny reading his tweets is usually hilarious

@alextaylor417

3 жыл бұрын

i love how open they are about how similar they sound to misery signals. but i think theyve been kinda making their own sound along the way.

I love yarling vocals. I found out about Pearl Jam very late, but back in 5th grade Creed and bands with that sound were my gateway into a different world of music and began my love for rock. It’s all very nostalgic now. Plus, yarling vocals is the easiest for me to replicate with myself so I have a massive soft spot for it.

Eddie Vedder, has a great voice. It's just that everyone copies him and it got old quickly...

@ironcity4182

3 жыл бұрын

You think Aaron Lewis copied him? Their first 2 albums didn’t sound like him yarling or Eddie. I guess happened right after “outside” live changed him to a yarling yoddler lol I like Aaron Lewis voice n Staind, especially first 2 albums.

@doomusrlc

3 жыл бұрын

@@ironcity4182 i thought thr Aaron Lewis comparison in the video was off. But I get what they're getting at about Eddie being ripped off in the late 90s

@doomusrlc

3 жыл бұрын

@@ironcity4182 also. Are you counting Tormented as the first of their first 2 albums from them? Hehe

@tomgig18269

3 жыл бұрын

@@ironcity4182 no one shall ever diss Aaron Lewis' perfect voice. That man is a legend. And has damn near one of the most powerful voices in his own respect.

@ironcity4182

3 жыл бұрын

@@doomusrlc yes I’m counting “tormented” that’s their 1sr ;)

You are so right about Slayer and metalcore. I feel like i never hear that connection talked about enough!

@maxheilman5314

3 жыл бұрын

Metalcore loves slayer and pantera :p

@tw0_th3rty

3 жыл бұрын

Wow it's xisuma

@TheBLEGHrWitch

3 жыл бұрын

A wild xisuma appears

@_serpent

3 жыл бұрын

I feel when metalcore exploded it went in two ways, influenced by Slayer and influenced by At The Gates. Rest is history.

@jeremycrump4162

3 жыл бұрын

@@_serpentnailed it

ADTR 2011: I hate this town, it's so washed up ADTR 2013: Woaaaah This Is Where I Came From! This is what made us who we became! They know me not just my name, There's not another place the same

@aliaulman

3 жыл бұрын

They became soooo successful within 2 years that they changed their mind from hating their hometown to grateful they ever started the band there

@antftwx

3 жыл бұрын

​@@aliaulman To be fair, their albums just flip/flop between love/hate of their hometown.

@narwhaljenkem347

3 жыл бұрын

in 2010 they were shitting on lauderdale, and in 2013 they were praising ocala

@luciskies

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair most Floridians (including myself) have a love/hate relationship with FL. So yea lol 🤷🏻‍♀️

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

Combine the two and you'd have some pop-punk mirror universe version of Rammstein's "Deutschland".

Props to you Finn for giving Lord Infamous a shout-out. SO MANY people have no clue who he even was but dude was SUPER influential in hip-hop. He started not only that triple style flow but even some of the aesthetics (darkness) and shit with the whole scarecrow thing. I highly recommend checking out his solo stuff. It's dark, dirty and hardcore as hell. He basically helped but horrorcore on the map. REST IN PEACE SCARECROW OG! And kids - stay off lean and drugs in general ! They are not cool, even if your favorite rapper or band(s) talk about them.

@artvandelay48

Жыл бұрын

This. I’m a huge three six fan. It’s nice to see project pat getting some recognition lately too. I love the patstah.

I love watching these videos because I always leave with bands that I’ve never heard of but start to love. So many discoveries and I appreciate all the research and work that goes into these

Here to defend Vedder's vocals, especially on PJ's "Ten".

@coopershira7504

3 жыл бұрын

Thank god I was looking for this comment

@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was the only good Yarl-er (Yarl-er? Would that be how to say it? Maybe Yarl-ist? 😆)

@lynnromanusa

3 жыл бұрын

@Luke haha fair enough. Much less yarling. Although my wife is highly irritated by Corgan's nasally voice lol, I love it.

@FXIIBeaver

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with ten. Yellow Ledbetter is the one that has a problem.

@victorsjostedt4393

3 жыл бұрын

Yellow Ledbetter is the best unintelligible song ever written, prove me wrong.

“Djenting about being in their feelings...” Laughing out loud.

@AaronMorgan666

3 жыл бұрын

*laughs in 8 string*

@EnvisionedBlindness

3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in sub 8Hz

Super interesting. Thanks for making this. Back when I was in local bands, the promoters would always encourage us to sound more like the popular bands from the area, and bands that would draw consistent numbers. Maybe there’s a lot of that within each scene and it’s partially contributing to the band/sound cloning? Cool to see you’re a huge Pantera fan as well! 🙏🍓🤘

"It's Not A Side Effect Of The Cocaine, I'm Thinking That It Must Be Love" is a lyric from the David Bowie song Station To Station

Joy Division is Post Punk.

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

I always saw them as indie new wave.

@thatbitchashley828

3 жыл бұрын

@@briankerrigan3529 why not Jazzy Indie?

@zulubunsen9067

3 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling this comment was authored before the 15:35 mark.

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

@@zulubunsen9067 🤣

@briankerrigan3529

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatbitchashley828 Could be, but I’ll stick to my story.

In some alternate universe Finn discovers Joy Division at 15 instead Snapcase.... hurts to think what could have been.

@stg_tmc

3 жыл бұрын

he would have been part of the early 2000’s Brit pop mod scene lol

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a very interesting timeline. But hey, I discovered JD at thirteen and I'm here, so…?

@fitzalanfoodreviews1498

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConvincingPeople as a 13 year old post punk fan i gotta say i like both

@nativeswagho5213

3 жыл бұрын

He could’ve liked indie.. lol

@dr.dionpeoples

3 жыл бұрын

Snapcase, tight/amazing band, annoying vocals, but I had all their albums!

Celtic Frost is the band everybody forgets

@mirapilates

3 жыл бұрын

The Celtic Frost guitar tone was ripped off big time.

@The_Other_Ghost

3 жыл бұрын

Who?

@mirapilates

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Other_Ghost Celtic Frost from Switzerland.🤣

@waifubreaks1572

2 жыл бұрын

Ratt pedal

@burkaytanr7778

2 жыл бұрын

Celtic Frost isn't really copied. Bands that took their guitar tone and vocal approach just created a subgenre. It's not ripping off. It's just driving influence from a band. Cause none of black metal or death metal bands sounds exactly like Celtic Frost. The closest ones are Darkthrone and Obituary and that's all.

Easily one of my favorite videos you’ve made. It’s easy to see how much fun and enjoyment you had while editing in your jokes and clips. Always great to see creators having a good time.

The "D-beat" band playing at the end in the background is my band. And the name is Romantiker (The Romantic). Not anything with "Dis". We have not copied Discharge either other than using d-beat. It's noise punk. Heavely distorted Scandinavian hardcore punk from Sweden. Feel free to look it up 👍🏻

@ThePunkRockMBA

3 жыл бұрын

Small world! Thank you for watching!

@FilthTribeFTP

3 жыл бұрын

Well now you kinda gotta change your band name to "Disromantiker".

@BorislavVeselinov

3 жыл бұрын

@@FilthTribeFTP *cue a string of laughing cat emojis*

@CathodeZodiac

3 жыл бұрын

Your demo rips! Like a long-lost Frigora EP

'It's not the side effects of the cocaine, I'm thinking that it must be love' is a lyric from STATION TO STATION by DAVID BOWIE.

@nicholasromig5506

3 жыл бұрын

it's too late to be hateful...

@cristidragomir6116

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasromig5506 too late to be late again

@nicholasromig5506

3 жыл бұрын

@@cristidragomir6116 amazing song

Huge fan! So I'm watching and when you explained the long song names as you closed that part up I thought to myself "y'know I don't normally do this but I wanna comment how I appreciate the deep dive into that. I always thought it was weird and now I have some context.".....so that....but as the seconds roll on and I hear you say "Pearl Jam"....I immediately knew what was coming and that alone would've made me comment how much I love you channel so... Thanks for the deep dive. Love to hate that yarl!!!

drowningman "busy signal at the suicide hotline" is legendary

lol, you're probably not gonna make many friends with that eddie vedder bit. i agree that vedder is responsible for yarling and that yarling post-grunge bands are bland, but vedder before them actually pulled it off pretty well, just unfortunate so many others figured out they could water down pearl jam's music and score radio hits with it.

@AlexGreat321

3 жыл бұрын

Pearl Jam is the only band with that style of vocals that I like (although I'm softening on Creed) I still prefer Mother Love Bone though

@TenMillionYearProgram42

3 жыл бұрын

Eddie is in a very small club of singers who could pull that off, and since he was kinda OG with it (I know I know tom petty was doing it first yadda yadda), but he certainly made it famous.

@Thrash_HxC

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree man, I think he pulled it off. Vs. or Ten are probably some of my favorite Albums of all time! I also don't mind Creed or Staind as-much anymore (don't really care for Aaron Lewis).

@Jmack7861

3 жыл бұрын

I fucking hate those vocals so much and any band that uses them are an instant shit band to me

@TenMillionYearProgram42

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexGreat321 I agree but we diverge at Creed. I can not stand Stapp's singing. It's like everyone's really bad eddie vedder impression.

I think my favourite weird song name is “Dragging Dead Bodies In Blue Bags Up Really Long Hills” by Escape The Fate aha

@yell0w355

3 жыл бұрын

S01E02.Return.Of.The.Arsonist.720p.HDTV.x264 by Blood Command (genuine track name lmao)

@JacoOffSkooma

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes!! I love that song

@brandonbrooks779

3 жыл бұрын

You should look up the band Pound. All of their song names are wild haha

@JacoOffSkooma

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonbrooks779 Ight bet lmao

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

Literally every song title on Fushitsusha's I Saw It! That Which Before I Could Only Sense..., the title track of which is the longest song they ever recorded but not the longest in title. That said, a lot of their song and album titles are literally taken from lines in archaic English and Japanese poetry, if I'm not mistaken, so it's almost cheating? Ditto stuff like the titles Dominick Fernow puts on the tracks from his Exploring Jezebel albums; serious NSFW warning if you search those, by the way, both image-wise and text-wise.

okay wait though. Superheaven actually did the yarling and it really grew on me.

@jonathanmartin8628

3 жыл бұрын

Hi dale

@arrowsplayground

3 жыл бұрын

Yooo. It's Dale

@mitchellemmons630

3 жыл бұрын

Love Superheaven

@botaniccal

3 жыл бұрын

Days of the New, too.

@smithmx733

3 жыл бұрын

Noooo way! Hey dale nice to see you over here

I’m so glad I stumbled onto this channel, love the content!

Norma jeans first album is one of the most brutal and best album they made IMO

@user-sx5uk9gd5y

3 жыл бұрын

The music that's not for everyone.

@joshsny143

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe vocally but I just prefer their instrumental palate now when they write heavy riffs

@princealigorna7468

3 жыл бұрын

I've always thought of Norma Jean as just Converge clones. Very competent Converge clones, but Converge clones nonetheless

@joshsny143

3 жыл бұрын

@@princealigorna7468 I'd say more Botch influenced but either way converge are the goats of metalcore

@Ninjamanhammer

3 жыл бұрын

Bless the Martyr Kiss the Child is definitely their best album.

There’s so much in this video and I love it. I really enjoy listening to you break things down and shed light on things I just don’t think about. It’s also refreshing to watch a video that’s not just bashing music you don’t like. Thank you for not being an elitist.

Informative and funny. Keep em comin

Your fake story about poking dudes in the chest while wearing a Pantera shirt and saying "are you talking to me?" Is is kind of legendary story that inspires courage in the younger generation. Young hardcore kid: "Wow... then what did you say?" Finn solemnly: "no way punk" Hardcore kid: 😲

@dougchampion8084

3 жыл бұрын

Then I did a dive bomb and confirmed I was walking away

Punk Rock MBA: The only channel where you can get Tigertailz and Spaceghostpurrp references in the same video. This was definitely one of your best.

@ThePunkRockMBA

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! That is a pretty funny combo now that you put it like that

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody needs to do a phonk album that extensively samples C-list glam/sleaze-metal bands and somehow makes it work with the necro Memphis-by-way-of-Stockholm vibes.

@qriminal1648

3 жыл бұрын

He just likes to seem so random.

I really like this series. As someone unfamiliar with any history this channel makes learning easy. And it's entertaining as a plus.

Dude, what I love about your videos... I know a lot of about a lot of bands you talk about but you reference so many more I want to know about!!!

Curious why you'd say ADTR made up the "leave this town" trend, then show a clip from "Ocean Avenue" by Yellowcard which came out a whole 8 years prior? Seems like it would be the other way round.

@dbgrfdg

3 жыл бұрын

there will always be someone else who was first.. but it's all about the guys that really get the trend going

@mightymrmousempls

3 жыл бұрын

@@dbgrfdg I mean sure but it just seems weird to point to a moment in time to say "here is where something started" and then show an example a full 8 years before the trend started... doesn't that seem odd?

@mista414

3 жыл бұрын

"Ocean Avenue" always seemed (superficially, maybe) like an ode to their hometown/youth, rather than a "we're too cool for you guys" vibe.

@joeplaysdrums89

3 жыл бұрын

@@mista414 this and Ryan Key was also singing about a love interest instead of hating his hometown or how awesome his friends are.

@themightypizza6133

3 жыл бұрын

And the other two clips he showed (Great Escape & Skyway Avenue) were both also from before ADTR made the trend

drowningman - the band that would agree to play literally any show offered to them and never show up. was this schtick performance art? or were they the most unreliable band in history? to this day, i still don't know.

@robanddonovan

3 жыл бұрын

And when they did show up, they were two hours late and Simon was usually trashed.. but the shows were always a great time. I remember seeing them at The Chance in Poughkeepsie NY. Drove like 2 and a half hours to see them. They showed up so late that they could only play for fifteen minutes. Simon was walking around finishing off spent drinks that were scattered around.. accidentally drank one that had an ashed out cigarette in it in mid song, but kept going. Good times

@terminaldeity

3 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why they never came around the Philly area. Guess the promoters knew better. Shame, they were a really awesome band. Really underrated.

@robanddonovan

3 жыл бұрын

@@terminaldeity they didn’t venture out of New England all that much. Being from all the way up in Burlington VT. They usually were in the Boston area or upstate NY. There was one tour they did with Cave In and tDEP that was easily one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.

@henrygvidonas9573

3 жыл бұрын

They took a page out of Sly Stone's book...

Love your honesty bro. Also, this was a rather humorous installment. Really liked it

I love this video haha. I laughed so hard at most of it, definitely make more of these!

Fun Fact: Everyone told Indianola Records that ADTR’s sound (mixing pop punk and hardcore) would not be successful.

@bearvsshaan

3 жыл бұрын

It already was successful -- FYS had done it previously and been successful at it

@thatbitchashley828

3 жыл бұрын

@@bearvsshaan they both released their debut full length the same year and Indianola's owner would've had music before then to show industry people. Hell that FYS debut isn't even the album most people know.

As HUGE Joy Division fan, that intro fucking busted my balls.

@zombiegunner3arc82

2 жыл бұрын

he says there's too much "small pp energy" around Joy Division in another video..sorry man 😬

@CGingRun

2 жыл бұрын

@@zombiegunner3arc82 oh I know. I remember he's said that.

Great video definitely do another! These are my favorite types of videos you do

@ThePunkRockMBA

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love your videos. I’m a hip hop head but your videos have introduced me to so many “good” bands and “bad” bands that I actually really like now. Respect!!

The heavy use of triplet based phrasing was also characteristic of the blues. It completely makes sense that it eventually found it's way into hip hop. Interesting stuff.

@goliathconner5078

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Do you know any examples of blues songs that used them? Thanks in advance

@TheSksexton

3 жыл бұрын

Not a big blues fan, so I cant speak to the truth of this, but if so, it only makes sense that its transition into rap happened in Memphis...

@kirkwilson6229

3 жыл бұрын

@@goliathconner5078 every delta blues song ever, basically. The double stop bend triplet is maybe the simgle most common guitar phrase in the blues. I wish I could play it for you. If I did, you would say "that's every blues song ever played." Eric clapton's solo on the accoustic version of Layla is riddled with Robert Johnson style triplets. That's a good modern one that's easy to find. I can find more, but once you hear that solo, you'll hear them everywhere.

@kirkwilson6229

3 жыл бұрын

@@goliathconner5078 basically any time you can sing "wibbedy wibbedy" to it, that's it.

"Dogs can grow beards all over" will forever be the best song title, thank you for starting the trend, random band from Vermont

@CeeJayThe13th

3 жыл бұрын

I like "Lying Is The Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Off Her Pants" and "You Know That Ain't Them Dog's Real Voices"

@nikkistewart2896

3 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite part of the genre honestly 😂 makes me laugh

@SandMBikes2011

3 жыл бұрын

As a Vermonter....How did I not know about them? Damn.

@terrorontheintercom

3 жыл бұрын

The Devil Wears Prada is from Ohio, not Vermont.

@christiannovia893

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrorontheintercom I'm aware, the video states Drowningman as starting the trend

Great vid. Love this series

I have to say a big thank you for your fantastic videos that are so educating and inspiring to watch. Ive been through a lot of tough stuff recently and have just ignited that passion and love for music and songwriting again! I strongly credit this to your awesome videos and charts 😊😂 Much from thailand 🇹🇭

"Way back in 2000" Ouch dude I could drink in 2001.

@ironcity4182

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here, I’m born 80 also, to me ain’t way back so fuck that, way back is 60s, parents days lol Edit spelling

New Order totally copied Joy Division, they even almost got the same members!

@jairomartinez-ortiz2553

3 жыл бұрын

The most fucked up part is that New Order got famous for it, but at least they kind of changed their sound a lit bit.

@leonpaulsson7015

3 жыл бұрын

I might be dumb and don’t get that this is a joke but please tell me that it is

@PiLLbOt100

3 жыл бұрын

New order was once asked, in an interview, who the laziest member of the band was, and Peter Hook answered, deadpan, " Ian Curtis, he hasn't done anything in years." Edit to correct spelling

Omg thank you for mentioning Discharge!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

I appreciate the acknowledgment of Misery Signals. They don’t get enough credit for their influence. For the Fallen Dreams, Counterparts, The Ghost Inside and a ton of others borrowed heavily from their sound. Mis Sigs is super underrated even if their sound isn’t your favorite you can’t deny that they contributed a ton to metalcore/post hardcore. Though they never got super commercially successful, they have a super passionate fanbase that hold them in very high regard. Definitely need more love for Misery Signals on youtube!

It was For The Fallen Dreams , that got me into melodic-hardcore. Misery Signals still slaps tho

Lil Ugly Mane - Mista Thug Isolation was the best release from the "Phonk" era

@cameron5367

3 жыл бұрын

one of the best hip hop albums ever tbh

@michaelb1961

3 жыл бұрын

And second place isn't even close

@maxx1014

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've put "Manic Drug Dealer III" instantly into my playlist. Exactly the type of fast, grimy Memphis rap I love.

Yo I love your videos dude! I remember being a kid when new found glory was a local band, them and further seems forever were the go to breakout bands of south Florida, good times lol..yo so I have a question, do you think that four year strong had any influence on easycore in between the years of the nfg era and story so far era pop punk? I love their first album it's our time...cheers!

Great content as always. Please please do an episode on Crust / Anarcho Punk. I feel like there's so much to discuss and you could do it justice.

Yesss Three Six Mafia getting recognition, they are the most metal rappers tbh

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

Memphis hip-hop has a weird number of parallels with Scandinavian second-wave black metal, honestly. Like, no rumours of cannibalism or fascists that I know of, but people living tough lives and dying tragically, the fascination with the occult and extreme violence as a lyrical theme, the minimal no-fi composition/production approach, the spooky bullshit surrounding the artists and releases online-it's very kvlt indeed.

@TheJoEy9090

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConvincingPeople Yeah dog theres like tons of conspiracies that theyre actual Satanists, its crazy

@TheSksexton

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJoEy9090 I mean, they were originally called triple six, the old heads still call them that. Numerous references to it in their early works, Boo used to call herself the devil's daughter. Idk if they really were or not, but they certainly played the part...RIP Infamous and Koop!

Slayer’s Read Between the Lies has the ultimate metallic hardcore riff. You could honestly go back and trace a bunch of bands to that one single riff lol

I’d love to hear your opinion about including poison the well as part of the template of melodic metalcore? In my opinion they were laying down the roots for bands like the ghost inside, misery signals, and counterparts as early as 1999 with their album the opposite of December... a season of separation. Songs like slice paper wrists and 12/23/93 from that album and from later albums, botchla, amongst others, stand out to me as being the template for the genre. I could even make the argument for hopesfall being as influential for the genre as well. I love your content. Looking forward to the next one.

10:18 *That nostalgia feeling was crippling. I got sucked back to my Grandma's couch thinking I was getting away with something because I thought it was an adult TV show. Give a warning first Finn!* *Great video.*

Did anyone else get super into a band, because they watched a video of Finn making fun of them? LOL It's happened to me. I won't specify which band tho

@powerviolentnightmare5026

3 жыл бұрын

Must be his secret agenda

@dead_beatbunny

3 жыл бұрын

Brokencyde?

@mylastchannelgotdeleted6213

3 жыл бұрын

Well it can’t be limp bizkit because he simps for Fred lmao

@LOU-oo9zx

3 жыл бұрын

I discovered snapcase and newer bands like vein and knocked loose because of him

@CeeJayThe13th

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda fell in lesbians with Ghostemane thanks to Finn.

I forget if they were mentioned in the last one, but At The Gates riffs basically created early 2000’s metalcore as you’ve mentioned before. Killswitch Engage mentioned that Slaughter of the Soul was their biggest influence and then everyone ripped off Killswitch lol. But I was dying at the HM-2 pedal part, that was gold!

@mylastchannelgotdeleted6213

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he mentioned at the gates in the last video

@travisspaulding2222

3 жыл бұрын

At The Gates and Carcass' Heartwork were definitely the blueprint for early 2000s metalcore.

@Bloods2006

3 жыл бұрын

Coma Eternal, 7 Angels 7 Plagues, Nehemiah, As Hope Dies, and Endthisday were some of the best of the At The Gates copies that are mostly unknown. Although I’d say 7A7P kind of fused that with Cave In’s sound.

I'm 20 and somehow you managed to make ME feel old with this video, nearly shed a tear just thinking about how much music and my favorite bands have changed and inspired others in such a short amount of time. Thank you ❤️

@ericpie8887

2 жыл бұрын

dork

Gatecreeper is my buddy Eric's band! Thanks for giving them a shout out

I'd credit The Locust with being an earlier example and possible influence of the long zany song titles. That became their thing by the late 90s. "Stucco Obelisks Labelled as Trees" "How to Build a Pessimistic Lie Detector"

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, that's probably one of the earlier examples in punk-adjacent music, but it does have a different tenor from how the hardcore and later scene bands approached it.

@ryshort7255

3 жыл бұрын

The Locust or Anal Cunt were the 2 bands in the 90s that I knew of that had those long weird titles. I'd agree that DrowningMan probably didn't pioneer it

@coygraf7897

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryshort7255 I was about to post this, but you beat me to it. Definitely Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Pig Destroyer too. I think it kinda built off of what grindcore bands in the late 80's and early 90s were doing with longer and more humerous song titles like Carcass and Napalm Death.

@ManuSDP

2 жыл бұрын

It’s Demilich. Look em up

@emilyskelton5484

2 жыл бұрын

capn jazz

To be fair to Eddie, that's jus this voice. Even his speaking voice is a bit yarled up.

@Antastico

3 жыл бұрын

This is true. It's the way he speaks and sings. It's natural to him. That's probably why I love his voice but hate the imitators because nothing is worse than a fake voice.

Love the video, grew up heavy on post hardcore/metal core all around. Chiodos was one of my favorite bands growing up,felt like they brought something different to the table. One of my favorites from them is,'Is it progression if a cannibal uses a fork?' . My favorite stuff today is nascar aloe,gizmo, and city morgue, combination of my two favorite genres growing up. Rap and overall aggressive/grunge vocal tones. I respect your taste of music not being so linear,with variety and open minded. I can relate and couldn't imagine boxing myself into to one genre or artist for too long as much as I love from them,I'm always just looking around for new music given most of the time and there is too many talented out there to be discovered.

Damn, look at you sampling mimi barks. Good shit, shes killing it rn!

I'M TRYIN HARD, REAL HARD, EVERYDAY NOT TO LOSE MY TEMPER

@lilyderooij

3 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that's 10 years old.....

@Sara-pn3ux

3 жыл бұрын

legendary

he really said "small pp energy" 😂😂😂😂

@ryanahr2267

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely caught me off guard and gave me a good laugh

@leser1music

3 жыл бұрын

He's not wrong though

@brucetransjenner7111

3 жыл бұрын

@@leser1music how is joy division small pp energy?

@kamrynrist6049

3 жыл бұрын

He's wrong but at least he was honest lol

@travisvick792

3 жыл бұрын

I have to agree, and joy division kinda sucks

That was fun episode! I also do appreciate Nails, and when i heard a riff from Suffrering Soul i was like "Hmmm, this guys like Entombed to the point of literally taking a riff from Revel in Flesh and using it blatently". It's not that i'm a kind of snob, i burrowed a few riffs myself. It just illustrtates the point about Entombed. And talking about HM2 craze, it went further and back around, i started finding a lot of death metal bands doing HM2 sound at some point. By the way, for any guitar enthusiasts out there who like that nasty tone but want something a bit different. Try boosting fuzz pedals with tubescreamer or just try metal zone and turn middle all the way up.

Great content once again, comment for the algorithm

The whole Entombed-core sound was started by Trap Them, even before Nails came into the scene. Love these videos Finn.

@ThePunkRockMBA

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! But its not really about who did it first, right?

@rubenlopes4558

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePunkRockMBA true tho. Anyway, shoutout to Trap Them

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

Trap Them are great.

I’d be down for another episode. A couple of ideas ... that funk rock scene in the late 80s and also that terrible “California reggae” that blew up after Sublime.

@AportesKike

3 жыл бұрын

I'm guilty for loving that Cali Reggae hahaha it's interesting how Sublime is one of those most copied bands

@laurisaarinen1126

3 жыл бұрын

You're not referring to 311 or Slightly Stoopid tho? Because those bands are sick. Some other ones like Pepper or Dirty Heads... Yeah, pretty bad. And the late 80s funk rock scene... That is my shit right there.

@AportesKike

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurisaarinen1126 I like all the Stick Figure, Pepper, Dirty Heads, Iration all those summer versions of Sublime

I seriously have to pause the video constantly to look this shit up!! Love it

dude I laughed the whole time! thanks so much =D

Also, Converge. With the album Jane Doe, they created a style that is still being imitated 20 years later.

@ProgressNotesTH

3 жыл бұрын

To me it's more about the production style with that wall of feedback at every break, etc. That's all Kurt Ballou/Godcity

I figured ADTR would be on here DISRESPECT YOUR SURROUNDINGS

Fantastic video! As Misery Signals is my favorite band in the world I was listening tight to you comparing them to others, hoping you lead me to similar bands, counterparts have been known. Keep it up!

Memes of the 2010's and late 2000s pop punk in the background instantly gave me nostalgia.

Counterparts frontman Brendan even says himself they’re a carbon copy of misery signals, he’s funny asf

Thats me and my pals on the "discharge" part, Romantiker noisepunk with the d-beat worship from sweden!

I love to watch your videos while I'm practicing guitar.

I completely forgot about the loooong song titles, those were fun times.

"It's Not The Side Effects of The Cocaine, I'm Thinking That It Must Be Love" is a David Bowie lyric.

Just going out on a limb here with the origins of long name trends, drowingman may have been the earliest, I'm not sure but what about bear vs shark, especially "right now your in the best of hands..." That album titles real name is like another paragraph, plus the song "don't tell the horses the stables on fire "... Etc. Would you say they were one of the first? I know I was really young when my best friend introduced me and I loved them. That had to be 2003 if not before? Great video . Thanks

Thank you for the misery signal shoutout. Most underrated.

"Skronky" is one of my new favourite words. It describes that type of guitar tone perfectly, but I've been using it for other things. Say you were hungover "my head is all skronky." Or say shit hits the fan and you have to bail "man, things got pretty skronky back there!"

The long song titles thing came into scene music via skramz and sass bands in the mid-late 90's. The Locust is the obvious one but stuff like Angel Hair's "You Were Ugly But You Got Cute Again" deserves some recognition, as well as parallel things in math rock and straight forward emo as well.

Absolutely loving your channel mate! Even though I'd say the heaviest side of rock for me is punk or heavy rock but you proper got me into hardcore playlist from 80s, what your favourite hardcore bands that from past 10-15 years or so?

Awesome, now I'm going to go watch Unsolved Mysteries, thanks.

I’m not sure if it’s good or bad that growing up on my parents’ pearl jam records/cds has desensitised me to yarling

Sad Boi is the best thing that ever happened to pop punk, change my mind

@LithiumAndDietSoda

3 жыл бұрын

Sadboi delivered pop punk from neonpop evil.

@IOxyrinchus

3 жыл бұрын

@DansWarped likewise, I got sick of classic pop punk and how unrelatable it became. The Story So Far changed the way I viewed pop punk, with heavier riffs and emotional lyrics etc. To this day they’re one of my favourite bands and what reignited my love for the genre

@IOxyrinchus

3 жыл бұрын

@DansWarped lol thanks, nature is awesome 👏

I’m glad you acknowledged misery signals’ influence!!

Just found your channel 🔥🔥🔥

Totally right about the “chainsaw” guitar tone, my buddy and I were just talking about this the other day, a lot of bands still do that! Fuming mouth, creeping death. Gatecreeper definitely does it the best! That new album is 👌🏾 Also Nails is still an amazing band, crazy to think unsilent death just had its 10 year anniversary!

Drowningman's "Rock and Roll Killing Machine" is one of the most underrated mathcore albums. Racetraitor and Drowningman both played hellfest 98 (the us festival)... Arma Angelus Played with drowning man at CBGBs.

Great video. A good example for the Joy Division transition would be Ceremony going from Powerviolence to Post Punk, such a massive change in there sound which seperated there fanbase significantly.

I cought the no jumper episode and only 42 seconds into it looked you up & hot the bell & all that ... I'm really feeling this channel you obviously know what you talking about & you're videos show keep up the good work bro

Doom metal can be seen as a genre based on the principle that heavy metal, a genre based on copying Black Sabbath, isn't copying Black Sabbath enough.