The 8K unit would be nice for truck campers, pop ups and small travel trailers.
@E6fireman2375 ай бұрын
Love the idea, Hopefully, it won't be cost-prohibited.
@uowebfoot
4 ай бұрын
It will be.
@effortlesschoice5 ай бұрын
A 10 for the interior. I’m so glad a significant percentage of manufacturers have moved away from the beige on beige on beige interior. 👍
@kevinbarry715 ай бұрын
Finally! An inverter air conditioning unit for an RV. Something that has been standard in residential units, and residential refrigerators, for so long I can't remember when they were not a thing. About time the RV industry tries to say goodbye to the 1970's.
@Adiscretefirm
5 ай бұрын
Right? 12v DC fridges, inverter AC, induction stoves they are getting there
@TheBurnsStuff5 ай бұрын
JD, I know I am one of those people that have been pushing for mini-split style AC/heat pumps in RVs. This has my attention, with caveats. What I absolutely HATE about current RV rooftop units is the changeover from HIGH to LOW speed and vice-versa. Why does the fan need to stop to switch speeds? These are the only systems that do this. Residential, window units, ducted split and mini-splits do not do this. If this comes in a heat pump system, ducted and solves the fan speed change issue, I'd be sold. I really, REALLY hope to see videos of you testing this.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@BlueMax717
4 ай бұрын
It's not ducted and wont be. Furrion specifically designed it not to be a ducted system. A lot of RVs are switching to this unit in the main areas of their RVs.
@DaveDrawing
4 ай бұрын
The man says in the video that the ducted system is coming. @@BlueMax717
@jimmcmillion1534
Ай бұрын
@@BlueMax717 but he clearly states in the video that there WILL be a ducted version
@JoshtheRVNerd3 ай бұрын
*Imagine my surprise when a viewer tells me I made a cameo in one of your videos at a supplier without my knowledge* 😅 I was so confused man
@BigTruckBigRV
3 ай бұрын
Well, it's the only collaboration we've had brother :)
@nmzierler5 ай бұрын
JD the rig! Why can’t someone make an interior like that demo rig. Man I love it! That huge couch, clean, bright uncluttered. Someone needs to copy that ❤
@brianm19165 ай бұрын
This is awesome. I'm also impressed by how much the sales guy knows about it. Good job!
@rayarnold1406
5 ай бұрын
Josh is pretty sharp. I've watched him in several rv expo videos.
@tonygauthierjr
4 ай бұрын
A VP of Sales is way different than a typical sales rep.
@rogereide5 ай бұрын
Love it!! Been waiting for a quiet system that pulls less energy for years. Absolutely stoked about this news!!
@johnnysweekends5 ай бұрын
Something we need for our Battery and inverter/solar setups..!!
@ThePhilliesYou5 ай бұрын
This is very interesting and will push other manufacturers in this direction. With the size of RVs we definitely need better / efficient cooling. Thanks JD for bring this info to us.
@coreymerritt77425 ай бұрын
I like the variable output for smaller inverters and generators 👍
@tedc669422 сағат бұрын
I'm one of 2 million semi teick drivers on the road at any given time. We want this. Kw mid roof so I have plenty of vertical clearance.
@iceman9425 ай бұрын
It is such a great thing to here this news. Please keep us all informed about this product and when it will be available to purchase!
@farmdoc92525 ай бұрын
Thanks. We have one in our Brinkley. Looking forward to trying it out in the Texas heat!
@lee86524 ай бұрын
Finally! Its about fkn time we have something available in the states! Everywhere else in the world you can get an efficient rooftop...
@jasonschaeffer725 ай бұрын
Being that this is something new for the rv world. I can't wait to see how much they improve on this already improved idea. I have 3 13,500 btu in my Alliance paradigm 385fl and would love to be able to replace the middle A/C (kitchen) with this 18K. It gets hot here in Texas. 👍💯
@kenhelmers26034 ай бұрын
I need this for a ducted installation! Sounds great
@mcconja
29 күн бұрын
if you find a nice, ducted solution, please reply here. I am about to put in a Mr. cool diy, but then how do I keep my tanks from freezing that requires propane heat running. I could wire in a fan only switch but why is nobody making a system that won't flood the roof when defrosting?
@rvfuntimes61444 ай бұрын
We own a Vanleigh/Vilano with the ducted A/C's. Hope they can come out with a unit to replace our Coleman Mach's. we want to add a mini split if not. Summer time help is needed.
@roncraft20425 ай бұрын
That inverter drive is an awesome product. Personally I would never buy version 1.0 of anything, but once it gets out in the market and parts are available and Rv techs get used to working on them, this is an absolute game changer.
@sassandsavvy0074 ай бұрын
I like this new invention but now I really want to see the RV. It looks so modern and functional. A totally new style. an you please give us a tour?
@spencerduncan5 ай бұрын
I am very excited about this new system. Will definitely be looking further into these for replacement of my GE 15K in the 2022 Winnebago Ekko.
@scotthaskell40605 ай бұрын
Well done review! Cant wait for the ducted version and smaller units to come out. Definitely a game changer. Now I can consider having my small rig with limited rooftop footprint setup for solar and boondocking. Giant leap for the RV industry.
@shawncastillo2105 ай бұрын
I was hoping you would show us the rest of the RV!
@bucketlistdestinations4228
5 ай бұрын
YES! What happened??
@HDC_4
4 ай бұрын
What model RV is this?
@gkurts5 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful and much needed product to bring to the market! I will be swapping both of mine out as soon as I can!
@carlosandrade74394 ай бұрын
Yes! I will be in line on one for our toy hauler..
@lauricejennings88255 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing. Please keep us posted on when it is released, finally.
@austintysver73665 ай бұрын
As person that is in the process of building an off grid electrical system for my camper, I definitely am interested in this. I have a 44’ toy hauler and if I could have this 18k unit in the middle and run it off my inverter while boondocking would be awesome.
@michaelbezos29695 ай бұрын
Guess time wlll tell. Being a retired I/E tech certified in HVAC I understand some of what Saint is questioning. Can you access the coils for cleaning or service? Being new. "could be" parts availibility limited. What refrigerent is being used. Efficency would be much better in older equiment if the third world refrigerents were not contaninated. Kills compressors & piping pretty quick. I do appreciate your videos always. Have learned much from your knowledge & suggestions for safe towing. Thank you!
@dbkonkle5 ай бұрын
Love the lower amp draw of inverter technology, I wonder if they are planning on heat pump versions as well?
@NTM20095 ай бұрын
Ducted units spread the heat/cool evenly over camper. With direct dump your main room is cooler then bedroom or bunkhouse. As for old ones needing bigger generator, testing shows otherwise. We run our 5th wheel 15k unit on 2000 Honda inverter. Our 3400 champion inverter will run our camper plus unlaws camper at the same time. If they want to bring something to market that has had more questions about it would be a fridge that is comparable to the residential fridge for cooling but that will handle the vibration of a camper. Biggest pain is replacing residential fridges through removing slides
@marks30145 ай бұрын
That thing is amazing...definitely will be looking for them
@brianalsum7706Ай бұрын
I’m building my own batteries and I build my pack to give me 24hours of ac run time with zero sun or charging. I’m in a small 19ft bumper pull. I’m looking forward to this unit as I’m not planning on shrinking my battery but rather just give me more run time. Most of the places I take my rig are only hot during the day and really when the sun is out. This unit will let me better match my power usage to my power production. This is now part of my modification plans
@chrisshockley88525 ай бұрын
So cool, I’ve been waiting for this! Buying a Brinkley 3950 this fall. Hopefully they will have them available!
@ryanholmes22484 ай бұрын
About time! Hopefully will have a price point for the majority of household rv owner budgets
@dannhennells26815 ай бұрын
Not bad, It took almost 60 years for someone to actually do what everyone has been asking for. I see future sales looking good for Furion
@allabouttires77235 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for these video,s you did at Lippert. 🙏👏👏👏 Great New things coming out for RV,s AC solar is awesome, without adding more solar Equipment towards and existing Unit maybe ?
@gwwj5 ай бұрын
I've been waiting! I was preparing to go with a DC unit. This will rock!
@JeffinTD5 ай бұрын
I’ve been puzzled about why there haven’t been inverter/variable speed AC’s for RV’s. The ability to reverse like a heat pump for energy efficient non-propane heat would be nice.
@Brigand2315 ай бұрын
Uncle Josh is the best! I really do appreciate that the KZread RV community is one of the most open and cooperative there are. Edit: I wonder at the implications a system like this might have for the Class B market.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I'm JD not Josh
@Brigand231
5 ай бұрын
@@BigTruckBigRVlol Nothing to be sorry for, the world would likely explode if we had more than one RV Nerd. A collab or crossover video would be super cool though; Josh and Matt have even appeared in each others' videos and we've seen Matt here so...
@wcraft5 ай бұрын
This is a great step, that's overdue. Over the next 5-10 years as new RVs come equipped with these, and some older RVs convert, hopefully we'll see some reduction in the demand impact on campground electrical grids during peak heat days. Not to mention, making it more feasible and affordable to run your AC when plugged in next to your home. Exciting.
@Mikei974 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering why something like this hasn’t been available in the market for a long time now. Coming from PR, I’ve seen the power of the mini-splits. They’re efficient, which is great for the expensive and limited power grid and they get cold. It’s all people use nowadays over there and the middle class now enjoys AC throughout their home due to the affordability and effectiveness of this technology. The RV industry is about to experience this same revolution and it’s going to be great!
@angelmiranda92224 ай бұрын
When will this hit the market?
@NiagaraFE
Ай бұрын
@@angelmiranda9222 @bigtruckbigrig where is the follow up to this question! I’ve been searching for the last few months since seeing this video, but cannot find them listed anywhere!!!!
@barrytimm54975 ай бұрын
It ticks MANY boxes for me. My primary surprise is that it is only ~40% more efficient than a regular old OE a/c. Many normal residential minisplits are 3x to 5x more efficient. I had a 37.5 SEER 230v 9k btu unit in my 5th wheel running 24x7x365 off my 1900w pv array and 7.8kwh LFP DIY battery for 4 years full-time living. But regardless of the efficiency expectation, this is certainly a game-changer!!!!
@paul65k
4 ай бұрын
I think I heard him say that the 40% is at peak output........ the real savings will come when the unit is stepping down as the coach is cooled down....... I would expect that the numbers will be more like 60 - 70% compared a traditional unit..... only time will tell.
@jimlarkin14005 ай бұрын
I would be interested in this and the 8k model for the bedroom, as long as they don't go overboard on the price
@charlesklaus6290
5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Looking forward to seeing the pricing and testing/reviews!
@mgkleym5 ай бұрын
Been checking for news on this product the last few months. Assuming its not crazy expensive I will be replacing the front ac on my 2001 class a motorhome with a chill cube. I have a non functional generac on board generator. The lower power draw on the chill cube means it should run comfortably off my multiplus and solar + alternator while in motion without draining my batteries. The forward facing direct dump is ideal for me because the hardest to cool area is the front cab with all its windows. I just wish it was a heat pump but I would be very surprised if that wasn't in the pipeline.
@dirksmall48245 ай бұрын
Great Video!!! We have a Jayco Pinnacle, so we have a pretty good cooling / Heat pump system, but, this truly is a game changing innovation.
@paulkaiser73835 ай бұрын
How cool Evolving AC system so quiet and more efficient. How cool.
@druffner30744 ай бұрын
That is definitely going to be a major game changer.
@ouhike25 ай бұрын
Better than a mini split? That is a bold statement! Mini splits are great in the RV world. If you know, you know!
@dankarau23075 ай бұрын
It will only be a game changer if and only if it is as efficient as an actual Mini-split. I can run my mini-split 24/7 in my 39' 5th wheel. 16kwh of Lithium and 2740 watts of solar. In fact my mini-split is so efficient I can still charge my batteries on solar only while the unit is running!
@dankarau2307
5 ай бұрын
He said on "normal" setting it will draw 10a or 100a @ 12v. My Mini-split only draws 600w (5 A @ 12v) on max and ramps down from there. We need to know the SEER rating of this unit to know if it is a game changer or not. Again...my Mini-split has a SEER rating of 20...so very efficient.
@nitroraptor22 ай бұрын
Well i guess there goes my mini split plans lol
@oldengineer15195 ай бұрын
It sounds like Truma got their attention.
@texillini15 ай бұрын
That’s a nice RV that you reported the A/C in. What brand and model is it? Did Lippert create their own? 😂
@joshb1245 ай бұрын
I'm stoked to find this out. When its too hot or buggy to be outside it's annoying having to talk over the AC with friends and family. I have a fairly segmented camper, glad to hear they have a ducted version coming to market. Hope it'll have wifi. I use my easy touch stat to cool the camper down before we arrive.
@chris31215
5 ай бұрын
The remote will probably be Bluetooth, but they have decent range now, but I like your thinking so you can 'remote' in and change your settings if your away.
@Patricksmancave5 ай бұрын
Love that new ac. Looks very cool! Will Be excited to see this in new rvs
@suburbazine2 ай бұрын
at 1:58 they misspelled "privite study" on the tv video. but aside from minor spelling issues it looks like a real game changer for RV HVAC systems.
@kathithompson59515 ай бұрын
I am so interested in this. I live in my rv full time and I am hooked into a generator for power so something that doesn't pull as many amps on hard start would be awesome. I know you are going to test it and I am sure that you will do a video on it, I can't wait because my units are 8 years old so they will need to be replaced soon and I am really interested in this. Thank you for showing this.
@ccrvsolar5 ай бұрын
So if you do the math (amps x volts = watts) he said in the low end 11 amps, 11amps x 120v = 1320 watts or on high end 14 x 120 = 1680 watts....no way are you running this on a 1000 watt inverter, a 2000 might but it won't like it for long periods, a 2200 watt generator you would be ok.....still gonna take some lithium Ah to power that all day..... No need for a soft start will be nice...
@LestatXP5 ай бұрын
Hey, one big thing no one mentioned - It's an inverter, which should mean it can also blow heat in the colder seasons. What is its minimum outside temperature to heat the interior? My Rockwood A-Frame has a Heat Pump (an Inverter, but not digital speed control) and I love it (one of the best features!) because I don't have to run the propane furnace in the shoulder seasons when you need some heat in the RV. I can set it on auto and it will either heat or cool as needed. It will pull heat down to about 45F. Below that I either run the furnace or use an electric space heater.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@nickolisschaffer79765 ай бұрын
We are looking to add a 3rd AC to our 41 foot 5th wheel because the two we currently have just don’t cut it. I might have to wait for this to be released and have this put in instead of the same thing we already have! Thank you for the info!
@bocho692472 ай бұрын
Must let us know when they released it I need one for my rv I need one asap
@enigma9789
Ай бұрын
gree makes one already, both dump and ducted called an ECO-Cool
@sharidandan4172
Ай бұрын
@enigma9789 the gree unit does not have a variable speed compressor.
@enigma9789
Ай бұрын
@@sharidandan4172 I think you are correct. I thought it did, but cant find that anywhere, so it clearly doesn't. Shame.
@sharidandan4172
Ай бұрын
@enigma9789 I know, it had good potential. I think everyone will be making the switch soon, because once you have one that is varible speed and inverter you never want to go back.
@ruderabbit797Ай бұрын
Going to need a heat pump version too. I wish these were retail available, I'm in need now.
@mattangerman88105 ай бұрын
If it don’t have a heat pump option the rec pro unit would get my vote over this.
@mcconja
29 күн бұрын
Im about to get the recpro but wish i could use the heat pump in lower temps like a true mini split. Also, wonder how i will keep my tanks from freezing in the winter. Circulate the propane heat fan using a manual switch?
@mattangerman8810
29 күн бұрын
@@mcconja mine works well in our toy hauler garage to about 26*f we use the propane furnace in the main partition of the camper
@TheBizStarter25 ай бұрын
We have one of these in our Brinkley and it's so much better then the last 15k we had. Quiet and indeed low draw for our battery.
@JenniferWilliams-oc6pw5 ай бұрын
BOTH my Colman’s went out at the end of this past summer. My RV is almost 3 years old. Of course right at the end of the AC 2.5 year warranty. With it being winter, we haven’t replaced them yet, but will need to by June for sure. Would LOVE to replace at least my main living room AC with this new one! Any idea on when it’ll be available?
@rebellucy62005 ай бұрын
Many people buy an RV thinking AC is like a home AC and will keep 70 degrees in the middle of August parked in the sun. Nope!! Having enough BTU's is more important than you think.
@jerrykrobby
5 ай бұрын
Getting away from ducted AC systems is also important. Ducted systems are inefficient.
@kevinbarry71
5 ай бұрын
Yes, because an RV has very limited insulation, has much higher surface ratio to area than a house, not to mention, running cold air through ductwork in the roof structure is idiotic. On top of that, literally, your condenser unit is in the hot sun exactly where it should not be
@lb7wade5185 ай бұрын
I will test 2 of them for a ducted system! Mine is a 2015 Bighorn 3875fb! We live in ours in a rv park! Not much towing
@bcrawford90725 ай бұрын
If it's like the variable speed ones in your home. They will be junk carry around a hand full of computer boards.
@AndyRoche5 ай бұрын
Wow, it is amazing the tech that is coming to the RV industry. I wonder how long it will take before we start seeing these in the less, but not least, expensive models out there.
@myname71185 ай бұрын
I've been in the planning stages for a solar and battery system for a 2 AC fifth wheel for a couple years. This could be the tipping point to get me in the game if they're not horribly expensive. The wattage for the 2 ACs pushes me away from victron inverters which causes a lot of other issues and is really the reason I haven't moved forward. Quick calculation, this would likely move me from a 6kva and 48v system to a 3kva 24v system. That also simplifies the solar array considerably.
@SoaringVideos4 ай бұрын
If they make that in a heat pump version? Now that’s something I would get excited about!
@dougjewell72845 ай бұрын
Could be a game changer for truck campers
@chris312155 ай бұрын
Wow, that's great, lighter inrush for load, AND variable load sheading so you can tailor it to your solar supply. The fact that you'll be able to drop down to a tiny one for the bedroom will also be amazing for solar load management. Did they say end of year for release?
@jlitwin15 ай бұрын
Recently purchased a Yoshino solid state B4000 power station for home and rv use. You might want to investigate this product. I am using it for home furnace backup and am going to run my residential fridge while driving my rv. It is half the weight and size of other brand units.
@alvindorris43734 ай бұрын
So nice Findley..be nice see this in BRINKLEY. ❤
@dashedgehog5 ай бұрын
Great overview of a new to market product that could potentially change off grid A/C. If it had a reversing valve to also function as a heat pump, I think I'd be sold. That's the one area I believe a mini split still has the advantage.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@dashedgehog
5 ай бұрын
@BigTruckBigRV Appreciate the info, I'll be watching for that!
@lukeroetling85432 ай бұрын
It was going to be exactly the upgrade I have been waiting for but cancel that because having all 18k BTU directly dumped in the same spot blows (pun intended). It might be efficient but if it isn't even ducted then the technology doesn't feel so luxurious. Hi, welcome to my giant beautiful 5th wheel that looks picture perfect but sucks to hang out in because the center is always freezing cold and the edges and bedroom barely cool enough to sleep in. Stick with a ducted solution.
@glennwest4438
Ай бұрын
Doesn't need to be ducted. I replaced 2 ducted 15k Dometics for 2 12k mini splits and cools better. Mine is a 40' Teton.
@360vrcrew3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to buy one for our production truck
@bparkinson12345 ай бұрын
Hell ya! Is it also a heat pump like a mini split? That would be cool. I will buy one. Take care
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@robertandrews830
5 ай бұрын
@@BigTruckBigRV Specs?
@kevincassidy81315 ай бұрын
Seems to definitely be a lot quieter. Hopefully this will work out and we can quit hauling a generator for overnight stops !!!!
@richardamick169017 күн бұрын
Mini split steel pulls less amps, and you can use a smaller b. TU. Unit. And it is a heat pump to All they have done is made. A soft start units, nothing more.
@y4buckingbulls4853 ай бұрын
Cost and availability! Houghton not much of a problem but the Trauma is another thing. The closest Trauma installer to me was five to six hours away.
@davidhake70322 ай бұрын
Great review but would have loved to heard how many required for different size rigs.
@rikosuavesito074 ай бұрын
When will this be available
@thats_mr_b_5 ай бұрын
Surprised they didn't open this thing to show us the guts. To me it's important to see that for understanding. But id this comes in a dump (for my loft) and ducted, I'll buy 3 since I now have 3 on my Brookstone by you JD.
@skroggy665 ай бұрын
You said it, game changer for sure.
@michaelmayer10435 ай бұрын
Will the new 18k inverter AC also function as a heat pump like a mini split? That would be awesome!
@mingoglia15 ай бұрын
I’m impressed. I can’t wait to see a future test of this. I’d be a buyer, though I’m hoping it’s not $3k or some insane amount like that.
@paul65k
4 ай бұрын
Me too but......... I'd probably pay it if it was truly a game-changer👍
@myriadcorp5 ай бұрын
These are on Brinkleys.
@2hotscottpro
5 ай бұрын
Not on Furions web.
@myriadcorp
5 ай бұрын
@@2hotscottpro Trust me they are on Brinkleys. I have one.
@bobevans64685 ай бұрын
Would love the smaller heat pump version for the bedroom. Would get one immediately.
@carlkey91365 ай бұрын
My question also was will it also be available with a heat pump? Noting that mini split heat versions can operate at a much lower temperature than the traditional RV heat pumps which basically becomes useless below 35 degrees.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@cbmirada4 ай бұрын
Great info 👍 it's really great someone is working on this, I was gonna do a minisplit, but this is better. Love that Fifth wheel, but is that fold down wall real or just for display 🤔
@BigTruckBigRV
4 ай бұрын
I think it's a converter side patio unit.
@rikosuavesito074 ай бұрын
Do you have a part number or something so we can search it up or look out for it
@Patricksmancave5 ай бұрын
Love I saw josh the rv nard. Love his videos and I also like your videos to!
@rickmartin35485 ай бұрын
Would love the small unit for the sleeper on my WesternStar, with solar and a good battery bank. This would cut down on running the truck engine all night. Please keep me in the loop. Rick
@user-ig5vm7hu8u5 ай бұрын
cant wait to see pricing and availability ,looks very promissing
@951WoodworkDesigns-bx4kn5 ай бұрын
I don’t know anything about HVAC systems, especially in RV’s other than they make the interior cool or downright cold. I’ve owned a Class A and a Class B, and I’ve been in a few travel trailers, but they weren’t newer models. The main issue was always the noise. This one sounds quieter than any I’ve ever heard. I would be interested to know if it has a heat pump. Perhaps it was mentioned and I missed it. As far as a direct dump unit and the racetrack type system, I would think the racetrack system would cool the interior more evenly contrary to what this guy says. You also don’t have a vent dumping air directly on you when seated on the couch. The selling factor is being quiet and not needing a soft start which sounds awesome. As far as mini splits. Hundreds if not thousands of people install them in their bus conversions and every video I’ve seen say they’re awesome and never had a problem. So, while JD’s comment that they weren’t made to be in an RV is true, they seem to be great in that application. They’re very quiet and easy to install but I believe they’re expensive compared to an RV unit, but I’d guess one unit is all you’d need for a 35 foot bus whereas you’d probably need two RV AC units. I have no idea if the RV units are more efficient than the mini split, but that would be important to know if you do a lot if off grid camping.
@spicethewolf86944 ай бұрын
This unit looks great but.... How is its cold weather performance??? As a skoolie person, one of the MAIN reasons we use minisplits is for the hyper heat feature of them allowing the heater to work all the way down into the -20's. Are these units even heat pumps and if so, do they auto defrost and handle the cold well? Food for thought
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The 8K unit would be nice for truck campers, pop ups and small travel trailers.
Love the idea, Hopefully, it won't be cost-prohibited.
@uowebfoot
4 ай бұрын
It will be.
A 10 for the interior. I’m so glad a significant percentage of manufacturers have moved away from the beige on beige on beige interior. 👍
Finally! An inverter air conditioning unit for an RV. Something that has been standard in residential units, and residential refrigerators, for so long I can't remember when they were not a thing. About time the RV industry tries to say goodbye to the 1970's.
@Adiscretefirm
5 ай бұрын
Right? 12v DC fridges, inverter AC, induction stoves they are getting there
JD, I know I am one of those people that have been pushing for mini-split style AC/heat pumps in RVs. This has my attention, with caveats. What I absolutely HATE about current RV rooftop units is the changeover from HIGH to LOW speed and vice-versa. Why does the fan need to stop to switch speeds? These are the only systems that do this. Residential, window units, ducted split and mini-splits do not do this. If this comes in a heat pump system, ducted and solves the fan speed change issue, I'd be sold. I really, REALLY hope to see videos of you testing this.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@BlueMax717
4 ай бұрын
It's not ducted and wont be. Furrion specifically designed it not to be a ducted system. A lot of RVs are switching to this unit in the main areas of their RVs.
@DaveDrawing
4 ай бұрын
The man says in the video that the ducted system is coming. @@BlueMax717
@jimmcmillion1534
Ай бұрын
@@BlueMax717 but he clearly states in the video that there WILL be a ducted version
*Imagine my surprise when a viewer tells me I made a cameo in one of your videos at a supplier without my knowledge* 😅 I was so confused man
@BigTruckBigRV
3 ай бұрын
Well, it's the only collaboration we've had brother :)
JD the rig! Why can’t someone make an interior like that demo rig. Man I love it! That huge couch, clean, bright uncluttered. Someone needs to copy that ❤
This is awesome. I'm also impressed by how much the sales guy knows about it. Good job!
@rayarnold1406
5 ай бұрын
Josh is pretty sharp. I've watched him in several rv expo videos.
@tonygauthierjr
4 ай бұрын
A VP of Sales is way different than a typical sales rep.
Love it!! Been waiting for a quiet system that pulls less energy for years. Absolutely stoked about this news!!
Something we need for our Battery and inverter/solar setups..!!
This is very interesting and will push other manufacturers in this direction. With the size of RVs we definitely need better / efficient cooling. Thanks JD for bring this info to us.
I like the variable output for smaller inverters and generators 👍
I'm one of 2 million semi teick drivers on the road at any given time. We want this. Kw mid roof so I have plenty of vertical clearance.
It is such a great thing to here this news. Please keep us all informed about this product and when it will be available to purchase!
Thanks. We have one in our Brinkley. Looking forward to trying it out in the Texas heat!
Finally! Its about fkn time we have something available in the states! Everywhere else in the world you can get an efficient rooftop...
Being that this is something new for the rv world. I can't wait to see how much they improve on this already improved idea. I have 3 13,500 btu in my Alliance paradigm 385fl and would love to be able to replace the middle A/C (kitchen) with this 18K. It gets hot here in Texas. 👍💯
I need this for a ducted installation! Sounds great
@mcconja
29 күн бұрын
if you find a nice, ducted solution, please reply here. I am about to put in a Mr. cool diy, but then how do I keep my tanks from freezing that requires propane heat running. I could wire in a fan only switch but why is nobody making a system that won't flood the roof when defrosting?
We own a Vanleigh/Vilano with the ducted A/C's. Hope they can come out with a unit to replace our Coleman Mach's. we want to add a mini split if not. Summer time help is needed.
That inverter drive is an awesome product. Personally I would never buy version 1.0 of anything, but once it gets out in the market and parts are available and Rv techs get used to working on them, this is an absolute game changer.
I like this new invention but now I really want to see the RV. It looks so modern and functional. A totally new style. an you please give us a tour?
I am very excited about this new system. Will definitely be looking further into these for replacement of my GE 15K in the 2022 Winnebago Ekko.
Well done review! Cant wait for the ducted version and smaller units to come out. Definitely a game changer. Now I can consider having my small rig with limited rooftop footprint setup for solar and boondocking. Giant leap for the RV industry.
I was hoping you would show us the rest of the RV!
@bucketlistdestinations4228
5 ай бұрын
YES! What happened??
@HDC_4
4 ай бұрын
What model RV is this?
This is a wonderful and much needed product to bring to the market! I will be swapping both of mine out as soon as I can!
Yes! I will be in line on one for our toy hauler..
Thank you very much for sharing. Please keep us posted on when it is released, finally.
As person that is in the process of building an off grid electrical system for my camper, I definitely am interested in this. I have a 44’ toy hauler and if I could have this 18k unit in the middle and run it off my inverter while boondocking would be awesome.
Guess time wlll tell. Being a retired I/E tech certified in HVAC I understand some of what Saint is questioning. Can you access the coils for cleaning or service? Being new. "could be" parts availibility limited. What refrigerent is being used. Efficency would be much better in older equiment if the third world refrigerents were not contaninated. Kills compressors & piping pretty quick. I do appreciate your videos always. Have learned much from your knowledge & suggestions for safe towing. Thank you!
Love the lower amp draw of inverter technology, I wonder if they are planning on heat pump versions as well?
Ducted units spread the heat/cool evenly over camper. With direct dump your main room is cooler then bedroom or bunkhouse. As for old ones needing bigger generator, testing shows otherwise. We run our 5th wheel 15k unit on 2000 Honda inverter. Our 3400 champion inverter will run our camper plus unlaws camper at the same time. If they want to bring something to market that has had more questions about it would be a fridge that is comparable to the residential fridge for cooling but that will handle the vibration of a camper. Biggest pain is replacing residential fridges through removing slides
That thing is amazing...definitely will be looking for them
I’m building my own batteries and I build my pack to give me 24hours of ac run time with zero sun or charging. I’m in a small 19ft bumper pull. I’m looking forward to this unit as I’m not planning on shrinking my battery but rather just give me more run time. Most of the places I take my rig are only hot during the day and really when the sun is out. This unit will let me better match my power usage to my power production. This is now part of my modification plans
So cool, I’ve been waiting for this! Buying a Brinkley 3950 this fall. Hopefully they will have them available!
About time! Hopefully will have a price point for the majority of household rv owner budgets
Not bad, It took almost 60 years for someone to actually do what everyone has been asking for. I see future sales looking good for Furion
Thank you so much for these video,s you did at Lippert. 🙏👏👏👏 Great New things coming out for RV,s AC solar is awesome, without adding more solar Equipment towards and existing Unit maybe ?
I've been waiting! I was preparing to go with a DC unit. This will rock!
I’ve been puzzled about why there haven’t been inverter/variable speed AC’s for RV’s. The ability to reverse like a heat pump for energy efficient non-propane heat would be nice.
Uncle Josh is the best! I really do appreciate that the KZread RV community is one of the most open and cooperative there are. Edit: I wonder at the implications a system like this might have for the Class B market.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I'm JD not Josh
@Brigand231
5 ай бұрын
@@BigTruckBigRVlol Nothing to be sorry for, the world would likely explode if we had more than one RV Nerd. A collab or crossover video would be super cool though; Josh and Matt have even appeared in each others' videos and we've seen Matt here so...
This is a great step, that's overdue. Over the next 5-10 years as new RVs come equipped with these, and some older RVs convert, hopefully we'll see some reduction in the demand impact on campground electrical grids during peak heat days. Not to mention, making it more feasible and affordable to run your AC when plugged in next to your home. Exciting.
I’ve been wondering why something like this hasn’t been available in the market for a long time now. Coming from PR, I’ve seen the power of the mini-splits. They’re efficient, which is great for the expensive and limited power grid and they get cold. It’s all people use nowadays over there and the middle class now enjoys AC throughout their home due to the affordability and effectiveness of this technology. The RV industry is about to experience this same revolution and it’s going to be great!
When will this hit the market?
@NiagaraFE
Ай бұрын
@@angelmiranda9222 @bigtruckbigrig where is the follow up to this question! I’ve been searching for the last few months since seeing this video, but cannot find them listed anywhere!!!!
It ticks MANY boxes for me. My primary surprise is that it is only ~40% more efficient than a regular old OE a/c. Many normal residential minisplits are 3x to 5x more efficient. I had a 37.5 SEER 230v 9k btu unit in my 5th wheel running 24x7x365 off my 1900w pv array and 7.8kwh LFP DIY battery for 4 years full-time living. But regardless of the efficiency expectation, this is certainly a game-changer!!!!
@paul65k
4 ай бұрын
I think I heard him say that the 40% is at peak output........ the real savings will come when the unit is stepping down as the coach is cooled down....... I would expect that the numbers will be more like 60 - 70% compared a traditional unit..... only time will tell.
I would be interested in this and the 8k model for the bedroom, as long as they don't go overboard on the price
@charlesklaus6290
5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Looking forward to seeing the pricing and testing/reviews!
Been checking for news on this product the last few months. Assuming its not crazy expensive I will be replacing the front ac on my 2001 class a motorhome with a chill cube. I have a non functional generac on board generator. The lower power draw on the chill cube means it should run comfortably off my multiplus and solar + alternator while in motion without draining my batteries. The forward facing direct dump is ideal for me because the hardest to cool area is the front cab with all its windows. I just wish it was a heat pump but I would be very surprised if that wasn't in the pipeline.
Great Video!!! We have a Jayco Pinnacle, so we have a pretty good cooling / Heat pump system, but, this truly is a game changing innovation.
How cool Evolving AC system so quiet and more efficient. How cool.
That is definitely going to be a major game changer.
Better than a mini split? That is a bold statement! Mini splits are great in the RV world. If you know, you know!
It will only be a game changer if and only if it is as efficient as an actual Mini-split. I can run my mini-split 24/7 in my 39' 5th wheel. 16kwh of Lithium and 2740 watts of solar. In fact my mini-split is so efficient I can still charge my batteries on solar only while the unit is running!
@dankarau2307
5 ай бұрын
He said on "normal" setting it will draw 10a or 100a @ 12v. My Mini-split only draws 600w (5 A @ 12v) on max and ramps down from there. We need to know the SEER rating of this unit to know if it is a game changer or not. Again...my Mini-split has a SEER rating of 20...so very efficient.
Well i guess there goes my mini split plans lol
It sounds like Truma got their attention.
That’s a nice RV that you reported the A/C in. What brand and model is it? Did Lippert create their own? 😂
I'm stoked to find this out. When its too hot or buggy to be outside it's annoying having to talk over the AC with friends and family. I have a fairly segmented camper, glad to hear they have a ducted version coming to market. Hope it'll have wifi. I use my easy touch stat to cool the camper down before we arrive.
@chris31215
5 ай бұрын
The remote will probably be Bluetooth, but they have decent range now, but I like your thinking so you can 'remote' in and change your settings if your away.
Love that new ac. Looks very cool! Will Be excited to see this in new rvs
at 1:58 they misspelled "privite study" on the tv video. but aside from minor spelling issues it looks like a real game changer for RV HVAC systems.
I am so interested in this. I live in my rv full time and I am hooked into a generator for power so something that doesn't pull as many amps on hard start would be awesome. I know you are going to test it and I am sure that you will do a video on it, I can't wait because my units are 8 years old so they will need to be replaced soon and I am really interested in this. Thank you for showing this.
So if you do the math (amps x volts = watts) he said in the low end 11 amps, 11amps x 120v = 1320 watts or on high end 14 x 120 = 1680 watts....no way are you running this on a 1000 watt inverter, a 2000 might but it won't like it for long periods, a 2200 watt generator you would be ok.....still gonna take some lithium Ah to power that all day..... No need for a soft start will be nice...
Hey, one big thing no one mentioned - It's an inverter, which should mean it can also blow heat in the colder seasons. What is its minimum outside temperature to heat the interior? My Rockwood A-Frame has a Heat Pump (an Inverter, but not digital speed control) and I love it (one of the best features!) because I don't have to run the propane furnace in the shoulder seasons when you need some heat in the RV. I can set it on auto and it will either heat or cool as needed. It will pull heat down to about 45F. Below that I either run the furnace or use an electric space heater.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
We are looking to add a 3rd AC to our 41 foot 5th wheel because the two we currently have just don’t cut it. I might have to wait for this to be released and have this put in instead of the same thing we already have! Thank you for the info!
Must let us know when they released it I need one for my rv I need one asap
@enigma9789
Ай бұрын
gree makes one already, both dump and ducted called an ECO-Cool
@sharidandan4172
Ай бұрын
@enigma9789 the gree unit does not have a variable speed compressor.
@enigma9789
Ай бұрын
@@sharidandan4172 I think you are correct. I thought it did, but cant find that anywhere, so it clearly doesn't. Shame.
@sharidandan4172
Ай бұрын
@enigma9789 I know, it had good potential. I think everyone will be making the switch soon, because once you have one that is varible speed and inverter you never want to go back.
Going to need a heat pump version too. I wish these were retail available, I'm in need now.
If it don’t have a heat pump option the rec pro unit would get my vote over this.
@mcconja
29 күн бұрын
Im about to get the recpro but wish i could use the heat pump in lower temps like a true mini split. Also, wonder how i will keep my tanks from freezing in the winter. Circulate the propane heat fan using a manual switch?
@mattangerman8810
29 күн бұрын
@@mcconja mine works well in our toy hauler garage to about 26*f we use the propane furnace in the main partition of the camper
We have one of these in our Brinkley and it's so much better then the last 15k we had. Quiet and indeed low draw for our battery.
BOTH my Colman’s went out at the end of this past summer. My RV is almost 3 years old. Of course right at the end of the AC 2.5 year warranty. With it being winter, we haven’t replaced them yet, but will need to by June for sure. Would LOVE to replace at least my main living room AC with this new one! Any idea on when it’ll be available?
Many people buy an RV thinking AC is like a home AC and will keep 70 degrees in the middle of August parked in the sun. Nope!! Having enough BTU's is more important than you think.
@jerrykrobby
5 ай бұрын
Getting away from ducted AC systems is also important. Ducted systems are inefficient.
@kevinbarry71
5 ай бұрын
Yes, because an RV has very limited insulation, has much higher surface ratio to area than a house, not to mention, running cold air through ductwork in the roof structure is idiotic. On top of that, literally, your condenser unit is in the hot sun exactly where it should not be
I will test 2 of them for a ducted system! Mine is a 2015 Bighorn 3875fb! We live in ours in a rv park! Not much towing
If it's like the variable speed ones in your home. They will be junk carry around a hand full of computer boards.
Wow, it is amazing the tech that is coming to the RV industry. I wonder how long it will take before we start seeing these in the less, but not least, expensive models out there.
I've been in the planning stages for a solar and battery system for a 2 AC fifth wheel for a couple years. This could be the tipping point to get me in the game if they're not horribly expensive. The wattage for the 2 ACs pushes me away from victron inverters which causes a lot of other issues and is really the reason I haven't moved forward. Quick calculation, this would likely move me from a 6kva and 48v system to a 3kva 24v system. That also simplifies the solar array considerably.
If they make that in a heat pump version? Now that’s something I would get excited about!
Could be a game changer for truck campers
Wow, that's great, lighter inrush for load, AND variable load sheading so you can tailor it to your solar supply. The fact that you'll be able to drop down to a tiny one for the bedroom will also be amazing for solar load management. Did they say end of year for release?
Recently purchased a Yoshino solid state B4000 power station for home and rv use. You might want to investigate this product. I am using it for home furnace backup and am going to run my residential fridge while driving my rv. It is half the weight and size of other brand units.
So nice Findley..be nice see this in BRINKLEY. ❤
Great overview of a new to market product that could potentially change off grid A/C. If it had a reversing valve to also function as a heat pump, I think I'd be sold. That's the one area I believe a mini split still has the advantage.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@dashedgehog
5 ай бұрын
@BigTruckBigRV Appreciate the info, I'll be watching for that!
It was going to be exactly the upgrade I have been waiting for but cancel that because having all 18k BTU directly dumped in the same spot blows (pun intended). It might be efficient but if it isn't even ducted then the technology doesn't feel so luxurious. Hi, welcome to my giant beautiful 5th wheel that looks picture perfect but sucks to hang out in because the center is always freezing cold and the edges and bedroom barely cool enough to sleep in. Stick with a ducted solution.
@glennwest4438
Ай бұрын
Doesn't need to be ducted. I replaced 2 ducted 15k Dometics for 2 12k mini splits and cools better. Mine is a 40' Teton.
Can't wait to buy one for our production truck
Hell ya! Is it also a heat pump like a mini split? That would be cool. I will buy one. Take care
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
@robertandrews830
5 ай бұрын
@@BigTruckBigRV Specs?
Seems to definitely be a lot quieter. Hopefully this will work out and we can quit hauling a generator for overnight stops !!!!
Mini split steel pulls less amps, and you can use a smaller b. TU. Unit. And it is a heat pump to All they have done is made. A soft start units, nothing more.
Cost and availability! Houghton not much of a problem but the Trauma is another thing. The closest Trauma installer to me was five to six hours away.
Great review but would have loved to heard how many required for different size rigs.
When will this be available
Surprised they didn't open this thing to show us the guts. To me it's important to see that for understanding. But id this comes in a dump (for my loft) and ducted, I'll buy 3 since I now have 3 on my Brookstone by you JD.
You said it, game changer for sure.
Will the new 18k inverter AC also function as a heat pump like a mini split? That would be awesome!
I’m impressed. I can’t wait to see a future test of this. I’d be a buyer, though I’m hoping it’s not $3k or some insane amount like that.
@paul65k
4 ай бұрын
Me too but......... I'd probably pay it if it was truly a game-changer👍
These are on Brinkleys.
@2hotscottpro
5 ай бұрын
Not on Furions web.
@myriadcorp
5 ай бұрын
@@2hotscottpro Trust me they are on Brinkleys. I have one.
Would love the smaller heat pump version for the bedroom. Would get one immediately.
My question also was will it also be available with a heat pump? Noting that mini split heat versions can operate at a much lower temperature than the traditional RV heat pumps which basically becomes useless below 35 degrees.
@BigTruckBigRV
5 ай бұрын
They just informed me that their Heat Pump version will be available in July.
Great info 👍 it's really great someone is working on this, I was gonna do a minisplit, but this is better. Love that Fifth wheel, but is that fold down wall real or just for display 🤔
@BigTruckBigRV
4 ай бұрын
I think it's a converter side patio unit.
Do you have a part number or something so we can search it up or look out for it
Love I saw josh the rv nard. Love his videos and I also like your videos to!
Would love the small unit for the sleeper on my WesternStar, with solar and a good battery bank. This would cut down on running the truck engine all night. Please keep me in the loop. Rick
cant wait to see pricing and availability ,looks very promissing
I don’t know anything about HVAC systems, especially in RV’s other than they make the interior cool or downright cold. I’ve owned a Class A and a Class B, and I’ve been in a few travel trailers, but they weren’t newer models. The main issue was always the noise. This one sounds quieter than any I’ve ever heard. I would be interested to know if it has a heat pump. Perhaps it was mentioned and I missed it. As far as a direct dump unit and the racetrack type system, I would think the racetrack system would cool the interior more evenly contrary to what this guy says. You also don’t have a vent dumping air directly on you when seated on the couch. The selling factor is being quiet and not needing a soft start which sounds awesome. As far as mini splits. Hundreds if not thousands of people install them in their bus conversions and every video I’ve seen say they’re awesome and never had a problem. So, while JD’s comment that they weren’t made to be in an RV is true, they seem to be great in that application. They’re very quiet and easy to install but I believe they’re expensive compared to an RV unit, but I’d guess one unit is all you’d need for a 35 foot bus whereas you’d probably need two RV AC units. I have no idea if the RV units are more efficient than the mini split, but that would be important to know if you do a lot if off grid camping.
This unit looks great but.... How is its cold weather performance??? As a skoolie person, one of the MAIN reasons we use minisplits is for the hyper heat feature of them allowing the heater to work all the way down into the -20's. Are these units even heat pumps and if so, do they auto defrost and handle the cold well? Food for thought
Will there be a heat pump/ heat strip option?