Ok KZread algorithm, I got it, I need to learn Morse code

@arnaudcordier8690

4 жыл бұрын

Same buddy

@DutchmanRadio

3 жыл бұрын

Do it!

@RamLaska

3 жыл бұрын

Really! Let's do it!

@couch5717

3 жыл бұрын

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@CfopCubing

3 жыл бұрын

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I memorized the numbers and alphabets today in the morning Now I can understand if the sound is slow I have a long way to go Pray for me

@zoeh.8316

3 жыл бұрын

God bless Jireh, Good luck with your studies!

@CfopCubing

3 жыл бұрын

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@MosesKFrost-qn2sm

2 жыл бұрын

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That was very helpful, at 82 I thought I would take up CW to keep the noggen from stagnating.

@kw4jm699

3 жыл бұрын

Great plan. Me too. I think it might actually help.

Well done, sir ! I am totally agree with audio learning.I think this is the only method to learn very well.I learned Morse code, in the Romanian army, in the year 1985.It take one month, but, at the end of this time, all of us (soldiers), obtained the brevet.Now, I am 55 years old, and I still hear good (ocasionally), all these sounds.Respect from Romania, Bucharest ! And please excuse for my english, which is not so good.

@Alpha-up3mo

2 жыл бұрын

pretty good English and technique you have here

@DirkyB13

2 жыл бұрын

Your English is far better than my Romanian!! 🙂

@dumitrucolcova8164

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirkyB13 You are too kind, sir, thank you, but I'm sure I have to learn English more, for a better level.

@glenmartin2437

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have Tirolian relatives and Romanian kinsfolk.

@mysticaccount5845

Жыл бұрын

One month?? Wow. I've been trying to learn for 2 and a half months and haven't gotten there yet. I have only another 2 and a half months to learn it.

I really want to learn this code because I heard it has saved many lives

@CfopCubing

3 жыл бұрын

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@beautifulday1665

2 жыл бұрын

@@CfopCubing .... ..

I'm glad I found this video early on in my CW training. So many bad habits I don't have to break!

Thank you! Wonderful advice. I had earned my Novice license over 50 years ago, I was a kid, couldn't afford a radio, never got on the air. I never lost interest and now, I can afford a radio and I'm studying for my ticket. They no longer require code, but I still want to use it and this sounds so much better than juggling individual letters in my mind while trying to listen and write. Thanks for pointing me in this direction.

I still remember the point where I put down the pencil. It was during my 20 WPM test 30 years ago. I was frantically scribbling when I started falling behind and knew I would not catch up. So I just started writing key words and answered the questions from those meager notes. That's not quite putting the pencil down, just loosening my grip a bit, but enough to get 'em all. N8CPA

Good points. I was learning it wrong by identifying code visually. I stopped practicing for a while and now I’m 100% audio learning code. Your points are spot on. Thank you. 73

Thanks for the excellent advice, I fully agree with those recommendations. I am learning for over 5 months now according to these points and, slowly but truly, I do progress. This is an excellent way to go and study, may you be heard.

This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to find today! 73

Thank you very much for this. I must admit, though, I feel quite overwhelmed with the whole process.

Great advise Scott, unfortunately I started completely wrong 40 years ago and I am still counting and visualizing. I wish I could clear everything from CW out of my brain and start again from scratch. 73's de ON7QF

The first thing makes me remember, I had a friend who had this mental thing so no matter how hard he tried he called read words at all, he knows what letters are and look like but he can't read. But he's a very fluent speaker and has good education already

My navy training was such that I could 'read and type' Morse far better than I could write it on paper, and at greater speed. As we had a cover over our hands when we learned to touch-type, it got so that Morse reception became an almost unconscious process. Added to this, we often didn't copy plain English words but coded 5 letter groups, so there could be no guessing as to what a word is or was if we missed a letter or so. Of course, for me, all over this was more than sixty years ago. That said, I can still read and send Morse.

All very good, thoughtful advise. When I learned code back in the 70's I hit a "wall" at around 20 wpm until I dropped the pencil and started listening to 30 wpm and suddenly realized that at those speeds I was actually hearing words, not individual letters. By the time I took my Extra exam in 1981 20 wpm sounded slow compared to what I'd become accustomed to. Continue to push yourself above your comfort level and much greater speeds than you ever imagined become possible. Stay inspired! 73 de N9MB

@alanguages

5 жыл бұрын

I understand the uploader's intent of adhering to the hearing art of Morse Code. I was wondering if it is somehow just not doing an overall study though. I will use an analogy. The art of Music a person can learn an instrument, but how they play can be through ear, chord symbol and notes. Doing all three is great, instead of specializing on just one. Depending on what the individual's specific goals are. My view on Morse Code priority is first and foremost 1) Hearing, then 2) Light 3) Pressure and finally as an option 4) Written.

@robertl.fallin7062

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if your code class (USN airborn communications class ) was copying five charector blocks composed of letters, numbers and punctuation marks . fq4b, tdiew z0qyp ect. When you got to 8 to 12 wpm a roadblock occured and after a few days of fustration somthing happened to how we interpreted the sounds. IT was like a switch got flipped and we ended the six weeks at 18wpm copying "unwords " . Nowadays im unable to copy code at any speed without a typewitter , Its a fasinating view of the complexity of learning which is another "hobby" worth the time.

@samualwhittemore228

4 жыл бұрын

When I first took the exam at 5 wpm I almost failed because I practiced at around 10 wpm. I thought the exam was going to be easy. Wrong. I could barely copy at 5. It was too darn slow. Of course now I'm relearning but this time I started at 20. But I realized just yesterday that that was too slow and bumped it to 25. I will be taking KW4JM's advice an try out the "Wordsworth" method.

@tonysmith7702

3 жыл бұрын

I believe most people hit a brick wall because they do not know it well enough. No matter how fast or slow the code is, you must have instant character recognition. If you do not, you will always struggle with Morse code. Whether fast or slow. To get instant character recognition requires a lot of practice. Slow and fast.

I learned Morse Code back in 1989, in order to pass the Novice test. I went from studying the written portion, and learning code, to passing the test some 10 days later. However, that was no major accomplishment, at all. The written portion of the test was very basic, and I only got to maybe 7 or 8 WPM on the code, with the requirement being only 5 WPM to pass. I learned by the then much accepted method of using Gordon West's cassette audio tapes. It worked, but I had major problems trying to build speed after I passed the Novice test. The bottom line - take the great advice in this video, and save yourself a lot of time and headaches. If you wanna be acceptable at Morse Code, there's just not enough time to be thinking about 'Dits' and 'Dahs.'

Thank you very much for this tipps! I am now 52 years old and want to learn CW to keep my brain alive :-)

Thanks a lot for your useful advises. I only don't understand why the bird in the backgroud audio has been making a lot of M and T letters....73 de IZ7VHF.

Sounds like excellent advice. I'm just starting out, so will try and follow your tips. Thanks!

Glad I found this, I’m just starting out. I realize now that Morse is not a code, and it’s not a written language, it’s a language that is ONLY SPOKEN. No one ever sits and writes out the lines and dots. The writing (if you do write it out) is English or whatever other language you’re using, you’re translating in your mind from Morse, but never actually writing Morse. It’s only heard and “spoken”, with the key being the voice. Learning the lines and dots is just creating an extra translation, like 1) hearing dahdidit 2) thinking ok dahdidit is long short short or dah dit dit, and 3) ok long short short or dah dit dit is D. That’s double or triple the amount of mental work you need to be doing. D in Morse code is NOT “long short short”, or dah dit dit, it’s the SOUND dahhdidit (spoken quickly) Or bahbudup, or whatever. The spelling is irrelevant cuz it’s not a spelled or written language. “D” is pronounced “dee”, when kids are learning English, you don’t tell them D is pronounced “deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyy”, so why would you tell a Morse beginner that D is pronounced “dah dit dit”? It isn’t. It’s dahdidit (fast). Thanks!!

@Anvilshock

Ай бұрын

Weeell, you still "draw" or "type" dots and dashes on your keyer. Yes, your hand doesn't hold a pencil and there's no paper or screen to hold copy what you "wrote" or "typed" for you to read back using your eyes, so, it's not a "written" language in the linguistic meaning of the term. It's certainly not a recorded and read language. But with how literal and technical you get beyond the linguistic term, it's literally a written language after all. And not a "spoken" language, either. You don't literally and regularly shout your dahdidits in normal Morse communication, are you? Point is, don't mix literal and technical uses of a word.

I've been pondering trying to learn code, but assumed that there were likely some more efficient ways than others to approach it. Your sharing of your experience learning it and tips on how to proceed was just what I wanted. Much appreciated. 73

Jim, I've been studying code for a week and have experienced the frustration with trying to copy it. Thanks for the words of experience.

I am studying how before attempting to learn and this video sums up the best of the best of all I have found, Thanks for sharing your tips.

Thank You. I just beginning to explore this. Work smart not hard, especially if smart makes more sense

I learned CW by writing it down, it has slowed me down. My dad was a radio operator on a navy ship, he could drive a car and carry on a cw conversation

Thank you for sharing this info. Like most things in life, there are no shortcuts. I play with a CW phone app but now desire to take it to the next level.

Thank you for your video. I'm a total novice, half way through by basic HAM licence training course and I want to take the CW test as well (so I've started studying) - but I am soooo enjoying this journey! I'm excited to say I can tap out code that should be decipherable. But my listening at this point has been limited to words or phrases that I've seen in roman characters. I am very apprehensive about starting to listening to code (that I haven't seen written down) but that's the actual objective I suppose! Your vidoe has cemented for me the importance of building my listening skills and I will do exactly that. Thank you for your time Sir.

i love how all the comments are people who were in war and had to learn morse code for the army yearsss ago and theres just me ,15 and wanting to learn morse code cause why not

What a wonderful tutor! Great advice and motivating notes from someone who seems, he knows what he's talking about. Thank You so much Sir! Happy Dx ing. 73's de VK2xxxx

Thank you for your words of wisdom. Much appreciated from an old dog trying to learn new tricks. God bless you.

Wow...this is a bit of a revelation. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Beautiful house by the way ... ...

This is the 3rd time I have watched this, thanks for sharing this with us.

Excellent points in a consice video. Many thanks

thank you for sharing your knowledge

Thank you. Great advice that I will pursue.

An excellent and encouraging video. I recently decided I need to make CW something I can enjoy and have been intimidated a great deal based on how I learned it back in the 1980's to get my first license -- and never used it again. I upgraded to Extra after code went away. Everything you've said makes sense and I will be pushing forward "soundly" using your suggestions. Thank you.

@fernandoantoniodeoliveirap1652

2 жыл бұрын

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I learned Morse code about 55 years ago. It comes to me by sound and just flows out of me thru my hand. I don't even think about the letters. About 25 years ago I had a interesting experience. During my time at the Merchant Marine academy I sat in on a blinker light course that was a requirement for deck officers. I didn't have much trouble except that I had to mentally convert what I saw to dits & dahs before I could write down the letter. DE KØRE

Excellent video. I'm 2 weeks from taking Technician Exam which I'm ready for. I'm gravitating to CW and you have provided very strong and wise tips for a beginner like me.

Thanks for an interesting and informative video. I have just now subscribed to your channel. I am a DXer and occasionally use the low VHF beacons as indicators for DX signals higher in the bands on TV and FM. Many of the VHF beacons use Morse Code.

I am glad I found this video! 5WPM between characters, and the individual characters sent at 25WPM is an excellent combination! It is really helping me learn code fast! I am using the app “Ham Morse” on my iPhone to implement this tempo and speed.

Thumbs up! I completely agree with all of these.

I see your mag loop in the background, I have made three so far, they have changed my ideas about portable antennas, they are amazing for their compact size, 73's, good CW vid.👍

Farnsworth method is the absolute best way. I was not aware of this method until about 30 years after being in Ham radio.

Thank you for your advice. Very good suggestions here.

Thank you, I found this fascinating

Great advice. Thank you for this information.

Absolutely love your #1 - lose the visual. In my "prime CW years" I was able to send/receive over 25 wpm but that was only after struggling to get my brain to catch up to my keyer.

Thank you for insightful video. I'm a new ham. I got my tech ticket a month ago. Last week I started learning Morse code after a lifetime of admiring people that communicate over long distances with CW. I've been using the techniques you've outlined but I found the Koch/Farnsworth via a small Android app. When I first started I had trouble with 5 wpm. Now I'm working through the Koch sequences at 18/5 and even that seems slow now. Thanks again for the advice. 73 de KN4KAW.

No worries, I'm not using my visual to even watch this video, just listening and looking out the window.

nicely done. Thank you for scripting the narrative and sticking to it. TT

Thank you very much, that was helpful. I am just discovering this hobby and I am glad I saw this video before going in too deep :)

Great video. I regret that I learned it at seven words a minute to pass my exam... It's tough to relearn but I'm working on it.

I like the mag loop in the background, great birdies too....

Great video! Thank you! I. Am starting my very first step today and I am really quite intimidated. I found this helpful

Perfect timing mate!! Thank you ! 👌 I'm just bout to start 👌👌👌👍👍👍😁😁😁

Thank you for the good advice.

Interesting to hear so many interested in Morse code, after it is no longer required ! Fortunately, I was licensed while it was still a requirement, so it was something you did, if you wanted to become an Amateur ! Many claim that C.W. kept them from becoming Hams ! But when you listen to them speak, and share their knowledge, many Extras don't know what a novice should know ! And got their license by using a computer to memorize the answers, with little, if any, practical application ! It is what it is ! I have always felt that many are missing out, when they sell themselves short ! Many are just plain lazy, as evidenced in other aspects of their lives ! Nuff said !

@kw4jm699

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't find an interesting home in Amateur Radio until I took up CW. I can't explain why it's so fun but it is.

Cool video, thanks for making it! Not quite sure but it feels like if you dont have your letters straight in your head it's hard to just copy words. The analogy is that when you're reading a book there might be words you don't know the meaning of but you can still read them and find a definition of them because you know the individual letters, just an intuition. I'm almost done with learning letters anyway so I'll finish this up :d

Great video. I just picked up my first keyer and have started the journey of learning morse code. Thanks. George KB3WAQ

*Great* tips! Thank you.

Thank you!

Most helpful CW video I've seen yet

Thank you. If I am not wrong, the author of lcwo.net also wrote a command line program to convert text files (actually ebooks) into mp3 files. You can specify both spacing between letters and spacing between words, while leaving the character speed unaltered.

Thank you. Great tips!

Than you for your insights. Very helpful

Something that helped me tremendously was listening to random QSOs on WebSDR sites using a phone app when out and about. That helped me learn to deal with different fists, QRM, QRM, QSB, etc. I can copy QLF much better than some friends who trained using purely computer generated code.

Was taught Morse in the British Army in the 70s. It was all encoded in 5 character cypher, with very little plain language text, so never really got beyond 18 wpm as you had to write down cypher . Still remember the rhythm of some of the more common words..... it was really a bit like being brainwashed. Was converting everything into l morse in my head for months after each of my 2 courses. Probably only take me an hour or so to get up to 12 wpm. Some good suggestions here, I'll use them if I get the urge again!

The rest of us learned before computers, phones and aps.

Happy to find you Scott

Great advice, thanks.

Great advice for a newbie! Thanks!

THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVISE!! YOU EARN ANOTHER SUBSCRIBER

Great advice. Thanks!

ty so much for this knowledge and time .i plan to inplement this in my journey thank you 7 3 .

Great video, great voice, great advice

Very nice video, Scott! Great advice. 73, Doug

@kw4jm699

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Doug! See you on the summits.

Very useful tips. Thanks alot!

Completely agree with everything. Learned from the tapes at a slow rate, and got far too used to decoding by trying to translate into patterns. I was proud when I passed the 13 WPM test to get to general class back in the day, but I couldn't get past that hump to get to 20 WPM. Now I know why, and I wish I had learned it differently.

Very well said. Thank you !

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and seasoned advice ... you can well imagine that a call sign like N5HH offers a few challenges! 73

@kw4jm699

Жыл бұрын

yikes! a Ditathon! glad you like it. I still enjoy trying to improve. Scott

Well done!!

Thanks for the tips!

Absolutely essential information coming from a long time CW operator. Thank you ! Everything you talk about makes perfect sense. I am new in CW and this is invaluable information. I wonder what you think about straight key versus paddle for learning CW. George.

@kw4jm699

2 жыл бұрын

Hello George. i don't think it matters, it's personal pref. I started with key then discovered paddle and fell in love. But for learning either will do. Thx fer watching.

Thanks! I just got my tech. And what made me want to get into radio was purely QRP and CW

Very good video, thank you for posting. I am currently learning CW, struggling at 15WPM now, but progress is happening. 73

I have just started my endeavor to learn code. Ill keep your tips in mind when i begin to progress. 73, N0AJS.

Learning Morse sounds just like learning typing: letters first, letter combinations, words and phrases, larger and larger groups become graspable without attending to the smaller parts.

I came after your review of the Te Ne Ke and the algorithms presented me this video as well. I came to the same conclusion a few weeks ago -- that I need to start hearing words and not characters. Morse Code is a language and we learn languages by words, not characters. Can you imagine learning Spanish using the a-m-i-g-o approach? Nope. Well done sir!

Studying for my Tech exam and intend to get into CW. Thanks for the tips from someone who IS going to be starting from zero.

You are absolutely correct. I attained my General lic in 1985 or 6. I was copying code at 23 wpm when I took the 13wpm code test and still only got 70percent on the test. But, still passed. So sorry I ever let my lic expire 13 years ago.

Very nice video. I would only add that Practice makes improvement, so practice practice practice and remember nobody is perfect.

Thanks, can't afford ham stuff right now so I figured this is a free thing I can learn now

bless, thank you

Thank you so much!

when I was in us navy radio school we had to learn the code and touch type in three days but we could not copy words as most of the navy signals were 5 letter coded groups pretty much only weather reports were plain language we still copied coded groups at 28 wpm and better and in the coast guard on weather patrol we mostly just sent 5 group number weather info Im just starting to copy words in by head at 80 years and having a great time

Thanks. That was helpful.

Thanks. Nice video & tips for studying-in general. Ru Uk

I learned the old way with a G3 friend starting at 6 wpm and in 3 months got up to 15 wpm for my 12 wpm test which I passed. I was listening to the AA9PW 25-30 wpm news bulletin but it seems to be discontinued. I can't write at 20 wpm so had to lose the pencil. I now read in my head and make important notes only; name, QTH, signal report etc. Bill, G4GHB.

Just saw this in time! Thanks KW4 JM. Downloading 'koch-morse' for Linux now (in case anyone wants to learn on a Linux machine)