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@r3gret2079

2 ай бұрын

I just realized, that hand Mohg holds, is fuckin huge dude. Its bigger than Mohg's face. If that was the body of a tiny lil kid-dude, how in the hell are his arms so long and his hand so big? Maybe that ISN'T Miquella after all.... but who then? Carmen Sandiego, that's right.

@StinkyPeteGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@r3gret2079 The reason he went into the cocoon was to try to get rid of his permanent kid status

@joshuaw2143

2 ай бұрын

In the main, Melina says she was born at the foot of the Erdtree. Supports the Mequela theory.

@r3gret2079

2 ай бұрын

@@StinkyPeteGuy is that right? I knew it was him in there, I just thought that kinda weird.

@StinkyPeteGuy

2 ай бұрын

@@r3gret2079 it might not be him still idk, i just know that was his original reasoning for going cocoon mode. there could def be some hocus pocus at play

Miquella, when you first get into the Shadow Realm: “Alright, what’s goin on tarnished?”

@despair_ts1823

2 ай бұрын

"Yo Tarnished, what's popin' cuh"

@harvesterofsubs5561

2 ай бұрын

“Tarnished, fam, my opp’s tryna to pop me in the head right now. Could you just do me a quick solid and take him out? His name is Messmer.”

@rymarz458

2 ай бұрын

Tarnished "Aight, I pull up"

@Xenadox

2 ай бұрын

"WHAT'S UP, TARNISHED! Miquella here with another (*speaker blasting audio*) LAND OF SHADOW VIDEO!!!" (*MLG airhorns*)

@tristanward9937

2 ай бұрын

“Doing well? That’s good… I’m gonna kill now”

I swear we will keep finding new stuff in the trailer 2 years from now.

@GamingCaveman1989

2 ай бұрын

yes, iand it wil be mundane shit thats in plain sight and not a secret at all

The iron maidens also grab you with snakes. The woman in the iron maiden is holding a baby, swaddled in cloth, like the GEQ and her newborn godskin apostles. I think Messmer was born the same way as a godskin apostle. Through the amniotic sac. Like a godskin apostle/noble, Messmer seems to assimilate physiology foreign to him.

A small thing I noticed: In the intro of the game, when Marika is shown in her crucified pose with the dress swirl behind her, she is wearing what appears to be snake bracelets. In every other image or depiction of Marika, she's never shown with these outside of that one shot.

@VapidFart

2 ай бұрын

I can't really make out for certain that they are snakes. Im not saying they aren't either.

@WRXKXED

2 ай бұрын

thats a really cool observation, it could possibly be proof for my personal theory that Messmer is Marika's oldest child and the snak bracelets are from before snakes became a blasphemous image

What if the person missing from the painting is the father of the baby, with the person sitting on the chair being the old head of the house, that would mean that they don't want to tell us who the father is.

@tylerhawksmoor9601

2 ай бұрын

is it Godfrey then, if the figure is (obviously only a slim chance) marika's "father"?

@the1384

2 ай бұрын

It’s Radagon Guys, because Messmer has Red Hair

@hornfan4life

2 ай бұрын

@@the1384 Or potentially Marika's brother? Looks like a family photo, and I agree that the empty side is where someone else is supposed to be. Otherwise the framing of the picture is off. Could Messmer be Marika's twin brother?

@lafayecci5619

2 ай бұрын

​@@hornfan4life Or a sister perhaps? (GEQ maybe)

@wolfshade124

2 ай бұрын

Since the trailer for the DLC was released, I had the belief that the woman in the painting is a pregnant Marika, before she was even considered an Empyrean. To me, the old man is probably her first husband (probably some noble man used by her too) and the biological father of Godwyn. I strongly believe that Godfrey is not the real father of Godwyn, and he could only bear Omen child like Mogh and Morgott with Marika, thus another untold reason why he was "discarded" after he was no longer useful to her.

I dont want to be disappointed. I'm gonna say the kicks are just an ash of war you can put on fist weapons

@Odin_Oracle

2 ай бұрын

Lord Michael Zak confirmed, months ago, that some “monk style inspired by a fighting game” Will be one of the new 8 weapon types. Worry not, I’m pretty sure they have a whole moveset

I think that pregnant lady in the painting is a deathbed companion. She has the same clothing style as Fia's. And with Mesmers Flame, you said it could possibly be every kind of flame, which makes sense, because Mesmer is all sinfull archetypes in one. But I think that those 'tendrils' are the thorns from the Thorn/Aberrant Sorceries, which are also sinfull in Elden Ring. I haven't heard anyone speak about this tho.

@the1384

2 ай бұрын

I’ve seen it too, the Pregnant Ladys clothing is similar to a Deathbed Companions and also similar to the Clothes those Giant Female Skeletons have in the Eternal Cities.

6:30 that might be the reason Mogh's armor calls him a 'raving lunatic', he thinks he caught Miquella but instead he got duped xD

I’ve seen in the comments multiple people saying how they’re on break or something like than. And I’ve noticed that everytime Zio posts it’s basically near lunch time in school as well. He found the perfect time to post videos lmao, when everyone is free to watch in the work day.

@mindseyemusicreview

2 ай бұрын

I'm at work right now, just grabbed a coffee and now new ziostorm

@tannerryan5146

2 ай бұрын

At lunch in gr12, should be studying for exams now that it’s may but ziostorm posted what else can I do

@kiltysalter2966

2 ай бұрын

There’s about 24 time zones on the planet though.

I just considered that among the 8 new weapon types, not even thinking that they are probably adding some new weapons to the classics we already have

@Odin_Oracle

2 ай бұрын

I think the sleep-alien looking thing, with the placenta boomerang, looks like it’s wielding a Curved Greatsword - but its unique Ash of War will be the ranged boomerang throw. Yes, plenty of classics will be getting spiced up. Exciting stuff

@alexterieur8813

2 ай бұрын

i hope we get a cool sleep Int Katana

@draw2death421

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully a Frenzy Scythe

@warcoder

2 ай бұрын

​@@Odin_OracleI think it'll most likely be one of the new throwing weapons. Maybe they'll give us the boomerangs the beastmen use too

@TOASTALLY_TOASTED

2 ай бұрын

@@draw2death421 bro I hope so too

The big question is: Will we get Alexanders flaming shoryuken as an AoW?

Suppose the painting in the dlc trailer could be a family portrait ? Thus it could be that the painting is damaged and we learn that in the dlc or they deliberately showed off a damaged family portrait

It also looks like messmer has both of the godskin bracelets on. One of their bracelets on each hand.

@Ziostorm

2 ай бұрын

Was one of the first things I noticed about his design, they’re very similar but not the same unfortunately

@joaop2294

2 ай бұрын

Also both Messmer and the dude at 8:04 are wearing Roman-esque armor. I bet that NPC with the cool sword has something to do with Messmer.

@twodumbgamers9285

2 ай бұрын

The whole dlc has to do with Roman themes. The base game has a distinct lack of Roman attire and weapons. The most notable ones being the gladiator armor and the executioner greatsword along with the smaller version found in a cave. They both have weapon arts that say they come from the land of Eochaid. I believe that land is wherever most of the Roman looking NPCs come from or share some relationship to. Elemer's armor also looks very Roman if you look past all the thorns. Shit Messmer looks like he's wearing Roman attire. ​ There is a video someone made explaining that elden ring is essentially Rome. If that is the case then where did all the Roman attire go? Is it really a coincidence that the word Numen sounds a lot like the word Roman? I think not!! @@joaop2294

@dasunersattliche9076

2 ай бұрын

@@joaop2294 i think they might have their Armor from the same Land 😏

Something I noticed but am not 100% sure of, the miquella ring design also resembles the design on the elevator floor of the divine towers.

Great video! To me it feels like Messmer is like an amalgation of all of the aspects. You mention the flame in this video, but I think we've also discussed his armor with an oddly Godskin-like look and his different eyes and snake imagery. Can't wait for the DLC's big reveal.

The ring in Miquellas looks like the "Entwining Umbilical Cord", a talisman that is not avaible. I think its supposed to do the same as that ring from DS3, perform as the opposed gender. Sice both are the same gender it would be needed for god and lord relationship

Using mighty mouse clip to rep champion belts was indicating a man of culture. Respect

@Ziostorm

2 ай бұрын

Had to show the 🐐

I mostly remember the painting for the epic violin that plays during the shot

@yourfriendthemaggot457

2 ай бұрын

Something about that violin hits so good!

@hardboiledbug

2 ай бұрын

no fr the trailer soundtrack better be in the game because it goes unimaginably hard

Maybe the „Mother“ this guy in the trailer is referring to isn’t even Marika but the Formless Mother ?

Arise and shine ye Tarnished!

38 days from now until release lads!!!

Why is nobody talking about the giant boomerang that the guy in the purple swap throws at the player?? its gotta be one of the new throwing weapons!

@Dastardly_Duo

2 ай бұрын

If we got a giant boomerang as a weapon, I would be absolutely in love

@dynamicflashy

2 ай бұрын

It reminds me of what the Beastmen of Farum Azula throw.

@Car_made_of_cheese

2 ай бұрын

Australians are gonna love that weapon

@ziyadomar5891

2 ай бұрын

We better get the crystalians chakram then!!

@kiltysalter2966

2 ай бұрын

@@Car_made_of_cheese Look, probably. They’re really hard to get rid of though. They keep coming back.

In the painting. It looks like there is a baby in his lap.

I’d say there is 100% something more to the painting not even a question in my mind there is more to the side.

Messmer also has a ring but on his other finger as opposed to the one we see body in the cocoon wearing. I doubt that has anything to do with anything but maybe worth looking into. Also, the position of the ring on Messmer's finger as well as the ring on the said body in the cocoon. On Messmer's hand, the ring is on his left middle finger but the ring on the body in the cocoon its on the right hand and the second to last finger from your pinky (don't know if this also considered a ring finger but hopefully you get what I mean). Looking it up, the ring on the middle finger means responsibility and individuality, power and like balance. And wearing a ring on the right ring finger can symbolize I think a connection to someone but in some cultures it can mean being engaged or marriage. So if the body in the cocoon is indeed Miquella' (don't know) that finger could mean like a kind of devotion of some sorts. Obviously the only other person that I can think of that Miquella is extremely devoted to of course is his sister Malenia. And Messmer's ring and where it's position is could possibly show his status in the realm of shadow as someone who is trying to balance certain things and shows he is responsible for something. What that something is well, it's either eliminating things that have been "stripped of the grace of gold," or something else completely. I get it if I am reaching I get it if I sound crazy but the sheer hype that I have for this particular game is actually insane so I wanted to just incorporate some of my thoughts and I hope this could sit well for some people and if it doesn't well I do apologize lol.

In regards to the corpse, maybe it is Messmer. If thats the case, then there may be a common theme between him, Ranni, and Melina. All 3 would be dead in body, with one eye closed. Maybe the closed eye symbolizes being "half asleep" in the same vein as death being the long sleep.

Love when I get the notification that zio video just dropped!!!😊

Another thing to stare "hours" at is Messmer's bracer. It has a mark on it, I have been trying to match it up. They aren't just showing you that little flame from his hand. His ring likely has a seal on it but they have hid it. The old dude in the painting is "royalty," but it's possible something is not on the left side there. Good catch. Also, Messmer's flame when he throws it has a "rot" tinge to it at the end. It's not white or red, it's more like a peach color.

In regards to the speculation around the "new" martial arts weapon. In the examples that Zios compares, pretty sure both characters are wearing the exact same chest piece, with one of them being tailored to remove the necklace and cowl through Bok/Golden Needle. I've seen so much speculation about this weapon being something completely knew, but I haven't really seen anyone speculate that's it's just a new weapon in the fist category. One that doesn't have a cestus around the hand like the other fist weapons, while having a completely unique move set that incorporates kicks in it's basic attacks or Ash of War... I love this community and I love how much we speculate every morsel we get in trailers, but sometimes I think we overthink stuff and the answer is often straightforward. 😁

The ring might be twigs hence the haligtree.

I really love the speculations:)

The ring looks more like it’s made of those little red limbs on the Rykard remembrance sword

Interesting theory with Messmer being the body in the cocoon. Messmer has similar long fingers as the hand in the cocoon, and he is wearing a ring in the fight on the middle finger of his left hand. However, hand in the cocoon wears it on the right hand. Haven't been able to see which kind of ring it is he is wearing in the fight, though.

@sylvastreak

2 ай бұрын

seems to be a signet ring of some sort, not the same shape as the ring on the corpse's finger. Still very interesting theory though.

Me looking at my ps4 "Here we go again old friend"

Maybe you could argue that the body in the cocoon was actually Messmer trying to come to the lands between from The Shadow Lands and Miquella sabotaged it and Mohg though he was bringing the coming of Miquella but actually it was Messmer

ive been on a lore binge today, and you uploaded at the perfect time 👍🏻 one month boys

@amwazdraws6890

2 ай бұрын

same. Just started prepping for the dlc in the game and watching some of the lore to be fully prepared.

when messmer burns his flame in the cutscene it looks like the shape of the erdtree

Like the Flying Senpou Monk The DLC fighting style /martial art seems looks the part for Martial Art Monks

this is realy a good video , am I crazy to think the other half of the painting maybe it will allwo us to enter the painting

Personally, I think Miquella is in the cocoon. I think the quote refers to the body being a husk and Miquella's soul no longer being attached. Kinda like he has transcended his body.

@bigdee8469

2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely Miquella in the cocoon. The slide shows Mohg snatching him away, and then tells us his whole dynasty plan hinges on Miquella hatching. But now I’m kinda thinking that maybe instead of becoming St. Trina via the haligtree, Mohg’s blood infusion turned him into Messmer instead. In a dream. I don’t know, after reading that, I’m not even convincing myself anymore. 😂

@herkadoo5519

2 ай бұрын

we already know miquella is in there. Mohg's cutscene says all that

@Odin_Oracle

2 ай бұрын

@@herkadoo5519 yeah I know, and I agree, but so many people in this community are mislead by herd mentality. One person sees Messmer and says “OMG Messmer has a long arm like Miquella’s body does😱😱” and everyone now believes the body isn’t Miquella’s lol.

@kingjaffa618

2 ай бұрын

​@bigdee8469 a lot of people thought he was Messmer they have the same weird long arm

@VideoStalker00

2 ай бұрын

@@kingjaffa618 I'm starting to believe that Mogh was tricked and that this arm is actually Messmer.

in 2:32 of the trailer, there is something similar as the painting you mentioned covered during Messmer grab Attack, the throne behind him suddenly gets Dark maybe about the statue behind him

Nothing like waking up to a Ziostorm video posted 1 minute ago.

@raymondbellamy6497

2 ай бұрын

Damn son I wish I was just now waking up lmao

@OMGitsTerasu

2 ай бұрын

True. I'm here before 30 mins, so I'm happy.

@pkthunder416

2 ай бұрын

Idk man, I've woken up to a beautiful woman whispering she loves me and nuzzling into my neck, and that's kinda neat

The belt may be the new leveling system item

Nooo all the elden ring content is getting me hyped I can’t take the wait anymore

Doesn't look like a belt. There is a strap coming from the left shoulder. Looks more like a bag/ fanny pack/satchel.

@Dastardly_Duo

2 ай бұрын

You're right! I really think that's a part of the armor though. I seriously have no idea how you're gonna equip this weapon

@ghousejetsfan

2 ай бұрын

@@Dastardly_Duo it's gonna be a hand wielded catalyst. I'm almost certain. Like a brass knuckles or something

@Dastardly_Duo

2 ай бұрын

@@ghousejetsfan Yea I was thinking the same, but it seems like a foot weapon

@ghousejetsfan

2 ай бұрын

@@Dastardly_Duo true, but it could be more of an ash of war rather than how the weapon would be used in real life

@Dastardly_Duo

2 ай бұрын

@@ghousejetsfan Yea I'm pretty sure that helicopter kick is an ash. I just wanna see more gameplay, just a little. That's all I need to hold me over till next month

It's not a crest, it's a bag. At least from what I can tell. If you look closely in the clip where he kicks the knight, you can see the flap of it, seperating it from the rest of the bag. There's also some stuff hanging on the bag in the image, that isn't there in the video, from what I can tell. So I wonder if this is the weapons item afterall, or if it's just part of the armor. But the way the straps work in conjuction to the armor itself, it would surprise me if it really IS the weapon. I'm much more looking at the weird fog/mist/steam coming from the characters legs, and assume this, as a visual effect, may be what tells us they're using this weapon. The way it shapes almost like an extension to the foot while he's preparing his next kick during the video, and the way we don't see it fully dissipate afterwards leads me to believe this might be the actual weapon "indicator" or whatever. Edit: Also, forgot to mention, it looks like in both the image and the video the character is wearing the exact same armor set, just in the image without the hat, and the missing necklace and cloak probably being an altered version of the chest piece. But both still have the same design regardless. Look for example at the gloves, the boots and the sleeves of the chest piece. Maybe I'm wrong tho, who knows.

I'm going to the beach when this releases😬 might have to bring the console with me

the image on the right is not a belt, it has straps on both sides running up and around his neck.

The wide shot of the church at 8:09...purple flames in the hanging lamps and then the large candlestick thats fallen over on the right kinda looks like a bewitching branch. The motifs look almost like Raya Lucaria, but these other details are of course related to St. Trina. I wonder if there is some faction that is a combination of the two.

The old guys brooch looks just like the head of the burial watchdog staff/hammer thing

I've been saying this about the cocoon from the start. Looks like messemer and the ring was very snake like. Can't wait to find out what everything means I can barely keep it together

i would love if they added in left hand back-step attacks and roll attacks

The person laying in the sleep lake and lily’s is actually the skeleton riding horse thingy. From what I see in the trailer, it’s the same exact area. I think that boss will emerge from that body

The main body in the cocoon being messmer would be so sick 😂

2:03 I just noticed that the knight has a MASSIVE twin blade I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about that considering all of the knight weapons very much are obtainable. Edit: 6:58 I believe we're holding the same weapon here as well looks pretty similar.

It also has the yellow of frenzied flame js

Definitely more to that painting that meets the eye. Interesting 🤔

The martial arts "belt" looks more like a satchel. You can see straps going up around the neck and shoulder.

Bruh. This channel is so 🔥 👌

In conjunction to the ring thats on the hand of Miquella's supposed corpse, i saw a video explaining that it has a veey similar design to that of the ouroboros wich is a snake eating its own tail. In the ring we can se that its not one but many snakes intertwined. So maybe it could be a symbology about the story of the dlc that it is mainly about destruction and creation wich is what the ouroboros means

If the belt works like a staff but with physical attacks that would be sick.

with the painting smudge I think that there might be another character on the left smudge, a big theory is that the old guy is marikas father and the character on the right is marika, i think it could be cool if the thing on the left if it turns out to be another character to be radagon, would make some sort of sense if they where siblings or smth and joined idk something outlandish like that, im just guessing but would be very cool to see

Crazy, I forgot this hasn’t come out yet XD

I'm going to hug that shadow tree just watch me.

Messmer’s arm when he’s conjuring the flame IS looking quite a bit like the cocoon arm…

The body in the cocoon matches Mesmer more than what we think Miquella would look like too.

Well it can't just be me scouring the Internet for crums of news and any lore pretty sure I'm going insane

I’m praying I can put bloodflame on martial arts moves. For my main character I’ve been using spiked caestus with bloodflame and it looks so cool

The differences in the attire seen in the screenshots could very well be due to alterations...

It crossed my mind the other day about the coccoon , I think it is the child of Miquella and Mogh. Messmer. Look at the long dangling arms , same as the coccoon . Plus Mogh is speaking to Miquella as she is there but referring to their child a creation of both. That is also why he has the blood flame included in his powers

Could be that both martial art characters are wearing the same set, with the altered version being depicted on the official site.

I think the old man in the painting is the body in the cocoon

1:58 The two armors look quite different in my opinion. The one on the left is wearing what looks like an outfit completely out of leather while the one on the right looks like it was made from fabric.

Online Class or a ziostorm video. Hmmmm such a hard choice. Wonder which I’ll choose..

everything points to rykard and the dancers

Been saying that hand is Messmer's since the trailer dropped. I'm more convinced than ever and have some thoughts on why he would be there too.

What astonishes me is how many videos can be made on the trailer

@Galamoth06

2 ай бұрын

20 videos in the last month or so. At least 50 since the trailer came out. Quantity over quality, I guess.

I just love that you chose Mighty Mouse Demetrious Johnson as to show a hand to hand combat champion!!! Amazing!!! Respect

This gives me hope that we'll see the return of the Vanquishers Seal in some way.

Hopefully we'll get another trailer soon.

So happy that I’ll be able to play this DLC the very second it drops. And I will 100% be ready. Already got vacation time, so it’s just a countdown now.

Reminds me of one of the trio npcs in dark souls 3

Idk if it was mentioned before but someone said that Messmer was the old god of the dragons. Definitely an interesting theory

I've been saying for the last couple months that the body in the cocoon is actually Messmer. The overall anatomy is that of Messmer and his flame looks like blood flame, which would fit the setting.

🗿Alright 🗿what’s going on guys 🗿

It looks more like a satchel/over the shoulder bag than a belt to me.

I wonder if there will be any references to Varre or faction of bloody fingers or recusents in the DLC?

Maybe its a miracle type attack.

I dont think the kicks are a crest. It just looks like an incantation thatsvl cast on your feet.

The Martial Arts is probably just an ash of war

my theory is that the Land of Shadow is a mirrored but twisted version of "banished" things from the Lands Between. Messmer being the banished body of Miquella, who has taken inheritance from a lot of the lesser outer gods (formless mother, fell god of giants, etc.) which leads to his flame having aspects of multiple outer god flames.I dont think it is destined death, as the only ones who have been able to take control of it were malikith and ranni, but instead potentially aspects of blackflame. we just akin it to destined death because the other influences make it look similar. (and maybe all the other flames are lesser offshoots of destined death, and when they blend together, they become similar in power)

Maybe it’s just me, but at 4:10 in video where you show the blown up exposure of painting, if you look close enough and maybe zoom in a bit it looks like some kind of big snake or serpent face to the right of the old man’s right arm. I could make out what appear to be snake/serpent like eyes and going up from what would be the serpent/snake face looks like it’s body or stretched out neck. Or if I’m wrong it’s just like the whole seeing Jesus in the toast thing lol … who knows 🤷‍♂️

Is the man in the painting holding a baby in his arms?? There is in indent in his left arm that appears to be the shape of a babies head with room on his lap for the body. Am I the only one seeing this?

What I find interesting is that the old man is resting his hands on someone's head.

that’s messimir in the painting the piller is his head

Look at Mesmer's ring if you can slow it down. Also, his left eye is closed, perhaps sealed. That guy might be on to something...

Does the kick weapon remind anyone else of the effect halo scythe has on people or the pest threads effect/mist

The man on the painting could be Rosus or Helphen.

Will i be able to start the dlc on a completed game play through