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  • @SeekerHead
    @SeekerHead14 күн бұрын

    I made a mistake, the Bison was moved to 11.7 and I didn’t notice. I would be slightly less hesitant to avoid it, but my personal opinion is largely the same. Old airframes carrying modern missiles are not a well balanced experience. This seems to be a continuing problem on this game however. And ultimately, I would not personally purchase one of these vehicles at their $75 price tag in any form.

  • @Cardinal8427

    @Cardinal8427

    14 күн бұрын

    do you think 11.7 as a whole would become more viable now with the increased br cap of 13.0?

  • @jcool017

    @jcool017

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@Cardinal8427 My guy 11.7 has been an amazing br right now, 95% of the time, you're basically in the matchmaker of 11.3. This update I've gotten and played 3 different 11.7 aircraft and I can count how many 12.7 matches I've gotten with my fingers

  • @unocualqu1era

    @unocualqu1era

    14 күн бұрын

    For europeans it's also 75 euros, they're pulling a steam where dollars = euros Unbelievable

  • @Coliflower185

    @Coliflower185

    14 күн бұрын

    The EJ Kai is an old airframe with new missiles and it’s pretty solid

  • @user-jy6cn3jy8g

    @user-jy6cn3jy8g

    14 күн бұрын

    @@jcool017yeah that’s true, I’ve played a lot in M2KC-S4 and F-14A and 999/1000 battles are in between 10.7 and 12.0, even 12.3 is kinda rare

  • @SovietBear4
    @SovietBear414 күн бұрын

    I am buying the AMX for the sole reason it's a Brazillian plane. We are not the same

  • @Arsen-YT

    @Arsen-YT

    14 күн бұрын

    Totally understandable. I just want the mig21 because i am a mig21 addict. But i don't wanna waste 75 euro

  • @Gast_Xsb

    @Gast_Xsb

    14 күн бұрын

    Jit's Gunna be listing to Brazilian phonk and flying a Brazilian plane

  • @luvelyjubely

    @luvelyjubely

    14 күн бұрын

    Grind for a Gripen and slap a Brazilian Flag and Roundel on it

  • @bokoblinlogic1619

    @bokoblinlogic1619

    14 күн бұрын

    I’m buying cuz it’s so cool and I want CAD cuz I main ground but only have a G/91

  • @CarameloWT

    @CarameloWT

    14 күн бұрын

    The fact this plane only costs 40 dollars if you live in brazil its pure gold 😂

  • @MorningGI0ry
    @MorningGI0ry14 күн бұрын

    I want to love the Bison because the MiG-21 is still my favorite jet. But for $75 I feel like I could buy an actual mig-21 from some seedy Eastern European backstreet dealer for that amount.

  • @danielending3381

    @danielending3381

    14 күн бұрын

    For this money you are able to buy plane tag made out of mig 21, which is really cool

  • @iansysoev9462

    @iansysoev9462

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@danielending3381those are scam tho

  • @Warthunderspecialist1

    @Warthunderspecialist1

    13 күн бұрын

    I might be buying it since it has the name of a character in my favorite mobile game which is street fighter duel

  • @naolevemeusvideosaserio

    @naolevemeusvideosaserio

    12 күн бұрын

    uh btw is the dev server still open?

  • @javantm1676
    @javantm167614 күн бұрын

    Dude, you can get a full game with these money.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Precisely, GTA VI will likely launch at this price, probably the most expensive development to date.

  • @javantm1676

    @javantm1676

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@SeekerHeadExactly man, it's kinda absurd if anyone tried to justify a 70 bucks micro transaction, even if it's on sale for 50%. the amount of fun/dollar you can get with 35 dollars on a steam sale are not even close to this singular premium plane that you'll be bored with after gaijin release new top tier toy, maybe even sooner

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I do look at it as easy access to the entire tech tree though, so it is a little more than just buying that jet, it’s more like buying the tech tree with some extra work required. So from that pov I find $35 to be much more value for the money if you manage to get one on sale

  • @usmcpound

    @usmcpound

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah, but have you seen how bad these new games are? Nobody here is going to be buying the new assassins creed. At least we know what we’re getting with WT 😂

  • @javantm1676

    @javantm1676

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@usmcpoundwell if your looking for trash then you'll get trash. dude, it's not hard to find a good game. There's like thousands of them, listen I'm no expert but if you gave me a genre that's not a fighting game i probably could give you a suggestion. or maybe you could go for an indie development passion project and support them.

  • @h.a8681
    @h.a868114 күн бұрын

    I think the Mig 21 Bison got moved down to 11.7

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I didn’t see this, when did that happen?

  • @PyroRaptor841

    @PyroRaptor841

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead Around June 4th on Dev. Same time it went down to 60 counter measures

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Shoot, I checked what I could find last night if anything changed but clearly did not do good enough, sorry for missing that!

  • @h.a8681

    @h.a8681

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead No worries lol, it wont change much for the vehicle

  • @theeradicator110

    @theeradicator110

    14 күн бұрын

    ​​​@@h.a8681 if/when gaijin gives it it's R-77s (which it can carry irl) it will be moved up to 12.3 like the F4 ICE

  • @Willtabixx
    @Willtabixx14 күн бұрын

    I've considered the MiG-21. It's definitely much better than the 4-J(UK), but main priority right now is USA

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    It is a better choice than the Junk, which is a fair rationalization to buy one if you have no other choice in the British tree.

  • @Willtabixx

    @Willtabixx

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead exactly, and since the SHAR FRS.1 won't give the normal premium benefits, the Bison would most likely be the most enjoyable plane to grind with in UK tech tree

  • @Frogg-YT
    @Frogg-YT14 күн бұрын

    finally with the bison we now have realism, mig21 vs f15!

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Most recently I think it shot down an F16

  • @PzIV-E

    @PzIV-E

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead A couple years ago, a Pakistani F-16 right?

  • @johnmandato344

    @johnmandato344

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHeadpretty sure that’s why you get the title “Falcon Slayer” when you preorder the plane

  • @KaptaynAmeryka

    @KaptaynAmeryka

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@SeekerHead there is no conclusive proof or evidence that it ever shot down an F16. A Mig21 however was shot down.

  • @myhugedeck8518

    @myhugedeck8518

    13 күн бұрын

    @@KaptaynAmeryka It was denied by let me check; ah yes Pakistan(the country that used the F16) and USA(that made the F16). I wonder why

  • @niksonrex88
    @niksonrex8814 күн бұрын

    Its so fucking annoying that the Bison is a premium. I really wanted to fly that plane but fuck spending 75 euros for a fucking virtual plane.

  • @batlax18

    @batlax18

    13 күн бұрын

    same case for the Tigershark for me. I really wanted it, but I'm not spending that much money on a virtual plane

  • @niksonrex88

    @niksonrex88

    13 күн бұрын

    @@batlax18 yeah its so stupid to me when they add a cool and unique vehicle as a premium…

  • @TheUnseenWaffle
    @TheUnseenWaffle11 күн бұрын

    It's like the a6e TRAM being moved up to 10.7. Aircraft lacks power but has aim-9l sidewinders. So your able to get the unexpected after you bomb a base. But when your uptiered you become a flying free kill. And with multipathing being lowered to 50ft. Flying super low will be like drifting a lambo in Chicago one way streets.

  • @prex2000
    @prex200014 күн бұрын

    Dont listen to him komrades, sacrifice your hard earned rubles so that Snail might not smight you when you pop that 500% SL booster! (satire)

  • @urbancoyote4840
    @urbancoyote484014 күн бұрын

    I was so excited to get The Bison. Once i found out the price.Yeah forget it

  • @Arsen-YT
    @Arsen-YT14 күн бұрын

    Bro im a mig21 addict and i don't want too buy it too grind the britain tree. I just love mig21 so much. But only in sales 😢

  • @ivanvukadin3194
    @ivanvukadin319414 күн бұрын

    There is a very good argument to the Bizon You wont have to grind with the shitfest thats the F4J UK

  • @waffleshardware
    @waffleshardware14 күн бұрын

    5:55 💀💀💀

  • @mcohanov
    @mcohanov14 күн бұрын

    11.3 would be really stupid, F-104J or J35D vs R-73 and R-27 imagine

  • @TNTExplodesLOL
    @TNTExplodesLOL12 күн бұрын

    Bro that custom decal goes hard

  • @armadillo3454
    @armadillo345411 күн бұрын

    6:00 that entire team is like "MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE"

  • @xx_wo1framite_x7
    @xx_wo1framite_x711 күн бұрын

    R27R1 is soo good with R73E on mig21 that pulls 18G's I recommend dis jet. It's gonna help you grind out British top tier air lines.

  • @xychen4812
    @xychen481214 күн бұрын

    If we get r77 then sure maybe buy it when at discount, but currently no

  • @TheDougsSB
    @TheDougsSB14 күн бұрын

    Also good to mention that the AMX A-1A gets significantly less CAS ordinance as well, as it only carries 6 500lb guided bombs. The tech tree varient can carry 1000 and 2000lb bombs as well which makes it much better for CAS. The only advantage the A1A has is that it gets the LITENING II Targetting Pod instead of the CLDP pod.

  • @captainedward8278

    @captainedward8278

    12 күн бұрын

    While it's true that A-1A does not get 2000 or 1000lb bombs, that does not make it any less efficient than tech tree variant. 2000lb bombs share the same hardpoints as twin racks for 500lb and any sane CAS pilot would pick that over single 2000lb bombs. For what it is, it's a perfect GRB aircraft for Italy. TL;DR, A-1A does not get "less ordinance", it gets less ordinance options, of which is not really an issue to begin with.

  • @diobrando2575

    @diobrando2575

    11 күн бұрын

    @@captainedward8278 The GBU-24's real advantage over the GBU-12 is that it has inertial guidance so if you lose the laze it'll keep heading to the last place it saw thee laze at. Big advantage if you need to go evasive when their SPAA starts firing at you since their SPAA likely won't move much allowing an easy kill.

  • @captainedward8278

    @captainedward8278

    11 күн бұрын

    @@diobrando2575 Simply incorrect. GBU-24's inertial guidance is to let it glide over a longer distance to the target's general location, not to hit targets precisely. It has an INS drift factor of 5, much worse than Hellfire's and everybody knows how they perform when you stop lasing.

  • @cofro3284
    @cofro328414 күн бұрын

    I'm probably going to get the Bison to grind the UK TT. They have a few vehicles i would like to get to and theres no way I'm buying the premium phantom in the UK tree. Sadly there isnt much for alternatives.

  • @YuiB0918

    @YuiB0918

    12 күн бұрын

    Trust me bro you will regret it, just buy the f4, it’s way better to use it to grind the tech tree, and you can also save some money for training your crew or buy anything you want

  • @czerwony1420
    @czerwony142013 күн бұрын

    i really would like to get the MiG-21 Bison and the F20A since i already love dogfighting top tier jets with the MiG-21SMT and the F5C in custom games and it would be cool to have better missiles unfortunately it's just not worth the money, but i couldn't resist getting the Su-39 since i wanted all the Su-25 varients, and it's air-to-ground radar and the ability to radar slave Vikhr and Kh-29TE missiles is so unique and im sad they're not giving it R-77s yet

  • @TitanSlayer2751
    @TitanSlayer275113 күн бұрын

    The MiG 21 is going to be hard to get a good battle rating because it’s missiles are too good for smth like 11.3 but the flight performance is not 12.0

  • @nichendrix
    @nichendrix12 күн бұрын

    The Brazilian AMX A-1 is a dedicated ground attacker, but it once a squadron of Brazilian Airforce pilots beat a squadron of US National Guard pilots on F-16s, so who knows if it is correct to say it can't dogfight.

  • @n1coR
    @n1coR14 күн бұрын

    They are all just there for grinding, and going by that fact all of them are worth it. Because Buying a tree is way more expensive, and working on minimum wage for 100s of hours gets you more money.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I think I would rather get a lower tier premium and then grind a tech tree jet that I could talisman. Overall less money especially if you get a sale and likely will be more fun

  • @javantm1676

    @javantm1676

    14 күн бұрын

    Yea but it's just a singular tech tree tho, i don't think the cure for the game being grindy is sale you a 60 dollar vehicle for each tech. Spending 60bucks on a game should make you happy. And war thunder, is kinda mid

  • @SebastianS-dt2fh

    @SebastianS-dt2fh

    14 күн бұрын

    @@javantm1676 That's a BS take on war thunder being mid, otherwise you wouldn't be watching this video.

  • @dilldoe1991

    @dilldoe1991

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHeadi really dont think talismans are as beneficial as people say like if you pay lets say $25-$35 for one of those mid tier prop packs or something you can only grind up to 1 rank above that efficiently then lets say you get some rank 6 jet and talisman it well the talisman itself is gonna cost ~$20 and ur STILL not gonna be able to grind rank 8 efficiently. (Correct me if im wrong abt anything i mentioned regarding how efficiently certain things research each ranks im not sure if i got all that right)

  • @javantm1676

    @javantm1676

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SebastianS-dt2fh after years of playing? it's only almost fun at best. This is the hill I'm willing to die for

  • @You_Do_Care
    @You_Do_Care14 күн бұрын

    Just like the shit f-20 its armory is just depressing at its rating for such a cool plane

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    It would be considerably better if it could carry 2 more missiles like the other mig21bis’. 4 missiles at 11.7 can be frustratingly not enough, as I’ve experienced with the mirage 2000 many times.

  • @batlax18

    @batlax18

    13 күн бұрын

    alright bro. 2 HMD r73s at 11.7 is not depressing, and the r27rs arent bad either.

  • @alialectrica
    @alialectrica13 күн бұрын

    Confused why the bison doesn't get at least R27ER to compensate for that airframe

  • @xd6129
    @xd61299 күн бұрын

    You didn't need to embarrass my boy odem like that😂😂

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    9 күн бұрын

    Dying on the video game is not embarrassing

  • @GamerFromSpace
    @GamerFromSpace13 күн бұрын

    if i didnt have completed the british tech tree i would of gotten the bison, its really cool but cant justify buying it

  • @TakenWithout
    @TakenWithout14 күн бұрын

    Why would you ever preorder an in game item? You have almost no idea if it'll be any good, haven't got to test fly it to see if you'll like it & if you really want it, it'll be on sale later. Also there isn't limited stock, digital items don't run out

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    They usually give you some skins or title or something like that exclusively. Still absolutely not worth the risk, I agree with you

  • @GodKingUvenk
    @GodKingUvenk14 күн бұрын

    not the place but i need some tips on the f4e i'm spading it and honestly the 95% full uptiers are basically unplayable and doesnt help that the radar and the 7e arent good

  • @honzavasicek
    @honzavasicek14 күн бұрын

    If it gets 11.7 Br in sims. It will fall into 11.0-11.7 sim bracket. Best things there are RDI mirages and tomcat A and most numerous, Having proper non HPRF radar, decent fox1s with INS and DL and HMS R73s in that bracket could be insanely good. Even on MiG21 platform. Flight performance doesnt matter this much in sims.

  • @therealavenger3537
    @therealavenger353714 күн бұрын

    They need to rework the BRs and armaments of the current rank 7-8 premiums. The J-7D carried 2x PL-8s on the inner missile pylons, yet they never gave them to it. The PL-8 would be the only reason to justify an 11.0 BR. Otherwise, 10.7 wpuld be perfect for it. The F-104S.TAF just needs to be 10.7 for obvious reasons. The F-4J Phantom F.3 needs to be 11.0. 11.3 constantly faces F-15s, which rinses it every game. The F-20's armament doesnt earn it a 12.0 BR. 11.7 is just about the only BR it would last in.

  • @martinzhang5533
    @martinzhang553314 күн бұрын

    They should give the bison R-77 it had access to irl and keep it at 12.0

  • @cody1964
    @cody196412 күн бұрын

    Playing the j7d and being up-tiered to 12.0 and facing a bison would be so insulting 😂

  • @peternguyen987
    @peternguyen98712 күн бұрын

    That plane is like Mig 21 “like the plane in the vietnam war😂

  • @drumofd
    @drumofd11 күн бұрын

    bro r73 and r27r with hmd is very powerful and are almost guaranteed frags when properly used, it cant be lower than 12.0

  • @drumofd

    @drumofd

    11 күн бұрын

    and f4 on 12.7 is laughing so hard about "bad" airframe of mig21

  • @urbancoyote4840
    @urbancoyote484014 күн бұрын

    My mig 21 bis has over 1100 kills and at 11.0 I barley get shot down..I can see the bison being Competitive with better weapons and radar at 11.7

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    11.7 will still see many F16s, M2Ks, F14s, F15s and more. It just doesn’t have the airframe to keep up with those and 4 missiles is not a lot, even if R73s HMD are really nice. I don’t think it’ll be unusable by any means, but I can’t in good faith recommend it

  • @urbancoyote4840

    @urbancoyote4840

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead agreed

  • @unocualqu1era

    @unocualqu1era

    14 күн бұрын

    But you're very experienced on it, premiums are often targeted at new players or people with far less time to practice their skills.

  • @ivanvukadin3194

    @ivanvukadin3194

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead seeing how the now BR limit will be 13.0 it can very well be that 11.7 will become the new "second" top tier with 12.0 and above getting sucked up into 13.0 lobbies Sure you'll see the occasional 12.7 match but 11.7 should see alot more down tiers then uptiers

  • @rubotok3703

    @rubotok3703

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@ivanvukadin3194 this is what usually happens, right now 11.3 is that second top tier, next update it'll be 11.7

  • @firestar7890
    @firestar789014 күн бұрын

    The piranha has nowhere near the same range as the python 3/pl-8, the python 3 has similar range to the 9L if not better but the piranha feels like it has range on par with something like an R-13M1 or MAYBE at best the pl-5 series.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah it felt like similar range to the R13M1 based on my limited use of it. Regardless, it is less than the python 3, I should’ve used a different word than “slightly”. It’s considerably less indeed

  • @firestar7890

    @firestar7890

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead Another thing you could've mentioned was the replacement of the vulcan with what I think are essentially DEFA's, but to be honest the brazilian amx in arb is at best a sidegrade to the tech tree variant.

  • @batlax18

    @batlax18

    13 күн бұрын

    so the Python 3's motor is stronger than literally every other (at least IR) missile in game, and it has a very strong sustainer, which I believe totals it out to about 3 seconds of burntime, which allows it to get very fast very quick, and the sustainer lets it keep that energy. Thats why I love the Python 3. Because of its performance, 40Gs, great top speed, great acceleration, and consistent flare resistance. the Piranha on the other hand, has a slightly weaker motor, and no sustainer, totaling it to I think 2, maybe slighty less seconds of burntime, which restricts it to a very limited range. I believe it also has quite a bit of drag, especially while turning, so it loses energy pretty quick. The extra 5Gs of pull is also indistinguishable. Overall the Python is still significantly better, but in a headon with flareless planes, such as the F4C, F1, T2, etc, it will work just fine, but it will have some struggles rear aspect

  • @firestar7890

    @firestar7890

    13 күн бұрын

    @@batlax18 i dont think any ir missile in game has a sustainer besides the R-27et. Also, I checked the datamine and the piranha has the exact same flare resistance as the python 3 (in terms of range bands and seeker fov). I do love the python 3s however, but the piranha is definitely worse.

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg608914 күн бұрын

    i love the MIG21, bis in an uptier is usable but not ideal. This thing in an uptier will be absolutely dire, new players thinking they'll grind the UK with it are in a world of pain... Even as bad as the F4 is it's still gonna be a better experience playing for new players. No good players are going to get the Mig as a grinder because we all know it's stupid

  • @pedrofelix440
    @pedrofelix44014 күн бұрын

    I'm going to buy the T80 because it will be my first Premium tank and it will help me a lot in my research, there is no problem in buying premium, only if you are addicted and bothered by everything

  • @TazziedoesWT
    @TazziedoesWT13 күн бұрын

    I’ll buy the Bison on sale simply because its a Bison. (I already have the grippen for Britain)

  • @2341bossman
    @2341bossman10 күн бұрын

    MiG-21 UPG Bison was literally designed to use fox 3’s on the fishbed airframe. Gaijin is so incredibly mid

  • @viinazyljen4965
    @viinazyljen496514 күн бұрын

    I understand your complaints on the AMX and I wish it ws 10.3 but well they also did say they want to raise the tech tree amx to 10.7 so we will see on that note but anyway being Brazilian I must have the brazilian aeroplane xD

  • @Jaeger_89
    @Jaeger_8914 күн бұрын

    I put a talisman on the regular AMX and blasted through the Italian tree easily. The only good thing about the premium is the skin...

  • @AnWildPig
    @AnWildPig14 күн бұрын

    6:10 damn, AI got hands

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Whole squad pulled up fr

  • @r1zmy
    @r1zmy11 күн бұрын

    the fucking swarms of F-4Fs in that last clip was horrifying

  • @narcolepticmarshmallow9012
    @narcolepticmarshmallow901211 күн бұрын

    gaijin's not-so-micro transaction prices are the reason they've never gotten a penny out of me, like charging more than a full price aaa game for one plane is insane. This game has gotta have some of the worst value for money stuff I've ever seen.

  • @spijker8413
    @spijker841314 күн бұрын

    FYI the BIS is 10.3 now, not 11.0, which is great, but unfortunately makes the MF and SMT irrelevant :( But the Bis at 10.3 is insane.

  • @batlax18

    @batlax18

    13 күн бұрын

    the Bis is only 10.3 in ground unfortunately

  • @joakimjensen309
    @joakimjensen30911 күн бұрын

    6:12 jusus average Air RB match right here

  • @erviplayer
    @erviplayer12 күн бұрын

    Wellll its something new to testdrive

  • @williamsnell2078
    @williamsnell20789 күн бұрын

    Bison is 11.7 btw which means it can be downtiered to 10.7 with R73s...ssoooooooooooooooooooo it's very much worth it

  • @akidafloof
    @akidafloof14 күн бұрын

    gaijin casually nerfing every single old premium vehicle because of a bug report prepares to add new $80 premiums before nerfing them to add $90 premiums, so on and so forth

  • @Lead1121
    @Lead11218 күн бұрын

    Yay.... so happy for the 20th MIG 21... all jokes aside, I'm really wishing we saw more mid tier vehicles instead of copy paste "modern" ones

  • @Poe_Dunker
    @Poe_Dunker14 күн бұрын

    I believe I made a great purchase buying this bad boy!

  • @mrgarland5210
    @mrgarland521014 күн бұрын

    The AMX is not meant to be a air to air fighter and if you are you are using it wrong. The missiles are for defence not for hunting bastards down.

  • @chieftainmk_11
    @chieftainmk_1112 күн бұрын

    I hate how gaijin made foreign vehicles premiums for Britain. I was excited for the Khalid but it was a premium…. Now Bison…?

  • @gametheblame9951
    @gametheblame995111 күн бұрын

    I bought the AMX with your code lol

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior474414 күн бұрын

    Ghibli was always going to be a premium. Brazilian variant made domestically be Embraer. Its def not worth 75$ or whatever

  • @StrayGuard
    @StrayGuard14 күн бұрын

    Even if they end up beign amazing i wont buy themafter Kiril called us poor and tried to shame us just for asking for more reasonable prices and discounts. Gaijin just doesnet deserve our money.

  • @Truck_Company_84
    @Truck_Company_8414 күн бұрын

    I’d rather keep to my trusty F-4J(UK) lol

  • @lil_sweden2323
    @lil_sweden232311 күн бұрын

    Too late, already preordered AMX xdddd

  • @doctorhawk1663
    @doctorhawk166314 күн бұрын

    mig21:me versus f-15c(su-27sm)?!w-wait for real?

  • @adwai1h653
    @adwai1h65314 күн бұрын

    Does Gaijin have any reason not giving the Bison it's R77s? And what BR do you think it should be at if it did have it's active seeker missiles

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    It wouldn’t be worth the BR of 12.3 (my guess) just to have R77s

  • @ReZELize

    @ReZELize

    14 күн бұрын

    It might (will) break the balance of the game (too good to be at 12.0 and too suck if above) and cause a ruckus among F-20 users. (same price same BR but better at weaponry and radar). To be honest, I still prefer a R27ER or ET instead of R77.

  • @adwai1h653

    @adwai1h653

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead but the meme potential :P

  • @adwai1h653

    @adwai1h653

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ReZELize I understand, it just feels a bit upsetting to finally get it but have it watered down

  • @legendbee9579
    @legendbee957913 күн бұрын

    AMX is dead on arrival in grb

  • @30Simon08
    @30Simon0813 күн бұрын

    how to get decal? link only put me in the store

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    13 күн бұрын

    You have to buy something

  • @iceicebabyil
    @iceicebabyil14 күн бұрын

    Got the AMX because Brazil!!

  • @erice.9514
    @erice.951414 күн бұрын

    Even more missiles who do not belong in BR 10.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    R27R isn’t that big of a deal. R73s are annoying but you’ll prob only see 2 and that’s already the case on Su25s

  • @erice.9514

    @erice.9514

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead nah I mean the AMX, the Russian stuff is okay at 11-12 range. But I play 10 quite a lot, and those aim9L prem slingers or R60m(k) wielders don't belong there.

  • @_Stampe
    @_Stampe14 күн бұрын

    When is the update coming to the real game?

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    My guess is next week

  • @therealavenger3537

    @therealavenger3537

    14 күн бұрын

    Tuesday, most likely.

  • @countryballswo
    @countryballswo13 күн бұрын

    the amx is 60$

  • @arl6565
    @arl656511 күн бұрын

    at what point should you just invest in a DCS setup and actually play a fun game?

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    11 күн бұрын

    I have DCS, I don’t find it fun at all

  • @rowanyuh6326
    @rowanyuh632614 күн бұрын

    Aam-1 should get 50gs

  • @Tusudan
    @Tusudan11 күн бұрын

    Must. Feed. Snail.

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat987313 күн бұрын

    Bison at 12.0 for 75 bucks HELL NO!!!!!!!!!! oh whoops didn't see it got moved to 11.7 ah still 75 bucks NOPE wait for half price sale then maybe. Still either way 75 bucks is TOOOOooooo much for any premium vehicle and seeing how plenty of people buy them maybe I would think about it if Gaijin number 1 started updating the Anti cheat or put in that new one they were talking about. Also the game has so much that still needs to be fixed and its been years and stuff still isn't fixed so unless they strat stepping up there game no way 75 bucks not worth it till games taken care of better.

  • @Frost_x_NB
    @Frost_x_NB14 күн бұрын

    They should have given this r77s. And maybe it be a little more worth it. But $75 it absolutely stupid. Buying something that is full price is not it m, even on a sale these new $75 premiums are dumb.

  • @Russinh0
    @Russinh013 күн бұрын

    Gonna buy the AMX cuz its Brazilian 🗿

  • @usmcpound
    @usmcpound14 күн бұрын

    This Bison is 11.7 in sim, which is the only air mode I play. I think it might be worth it to curb stomp 10.7 planes and F-4S noobs

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    It was moved to 11.7 in air rb too and I didn’t notice! This could be enough to push someone over the fence and buy it, if so fair enough hope you enjoy!

  • @pn2422

    @pn2422

    14 күн бұрын

    The joke is you will not face F-4S in it, UK is always on the blue side, red side already struggles at 11.7 (USSR doesn't even have any 11.7 fighters, all you have is a single SU25 at that BR), and now we get a MiG-21 with IRCCM, decent radar, and the good RWR and it's on the BLUE side. The devs forgot sim exists.

  • @usmcpound

    @usmcpound

    14 күн бұрын

    @@pn2422 there are matches where you can face matches with any country on either team, but I get what you’re saying.

  • @mikeyplayz8438

    @mikeyplayz8438

    14 күн бұрын

    That’s an oxymoron because you’ll be dead to F4S’ before you can even see them

  • @Anthony1102www
    @Anthony1102www14 күн бұрын

    Even tho i brought all pre order in the upcoming update except the navy one. I do suggest people just buy the one you desperately need coz many of it is a bit disappointing. Sometimes i really hope a bit of p2w could happen in WT

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I don’t support pay to win, but I am always going back and forth between exercising extreme caution when adding premiums so they’re not broken (su11) and wanting someone who pays $75 to get a good vehicle for its BR.

  • @Anthony1102www

    @Anthony1102www

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead fair point, i bough the F20A and bison this time, but very obvious that F20A is not so bad and can have chances based on its flight characteristics (not like F4F ice in its BR), but when you take a look on Bison, same price but unsatisfied result of any old Air frame without the latest armorment in the upcoming updates. It would be great if they really launch something that could worthy of the true value

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I think the 23ML used to be the best example of this, but even then it just isn’t worth $70. At least it was a good vehicle though

  • @Anthony1102www

    @Anthony1102www

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@SeekerHeadexactly, well the balancing of WT is kind of strange if you may agree. Despite Im not a good player of Air Real. B, i play a lot of 21bis to grind Germ. Tech Tree. For me i would say 21 bis shouldnt be in 11.0, its flight performance is ok but the missile doesn't worth it when MM let 21bis needed to say hi to F16 F15 F14. The whole BR thing is.... Weird.

  • @mab2187
    @mab218714 күн бұрын

    No R-77s, no value.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    R77s would undoubtably make it even worse for its BR

  • @mab2187

    @mab2187

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead Well either have a vehicle that is gutted and put at a BR where it still is gonna be gutted by other stuff. Or just let it have all the candy and let it die of tooth decay. Either way the experience is gonna be unpleasant. Same thing for the F-100F with its irl loadout of AIM-9Ps not given but that BR is still viable enough.

  • @romanedwards5139
    @romanedwards513914 күн бұрын

    Nah that kit at anything less then 11.6 is insane cause the 27r has a crazy amount of range

  • @ivanvukadin3194

    @ivanvukadin3194

    14 күн бұрын

    It's the normal 27r and not the ER It doesn't have the new engine and has more drag then the Aim-7M while having about similar burn

  • @romanedwards5139

    @romanedwards5139

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ivanvukadin3194 trust me I know what they are but the 27r still has a wild amount of range compared to other missiles at 11.3 a 7m is comparable if not better though only marginally but all the planes its on cant take true advantage of it like a f 20 can. what im saying as someone who loves Russian equipment in this game. I cant look you in the face and say that the mig 21 is a entire battle rating below the f 20 and thats simply based on the weapons each can carry while you can get 4 good kills with a f 20 the mig 21s weapons hand you kills especially at 11.3 where you can out turn most things

  • @flyingtiger0506
    @flyingtiger050614 күн бұрын

    Is there anyway for me to get your decal on playstation?

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I’m not sure. I’ve asked some employees and they haven’t been very clear. Perhaps open a support ticket and see if they have an option for you

  • @flyingtiger0506

    @flyingtiger0506

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead ok, I just gotta figure out how to open a ticket lol

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    If you type in war thunder support or gaijin support I’m sure you’ll find it. Just have to log in

  • @MorningGI0ry

    @MorningGI0ry

    14 күн бұрын

    I have a friend with a PlayStation account who has various CC decals. I’ll ask how he has them

  • @MorningGI0ry

    @MorningGI0ry

    14 күн бұрын

    Oh nvm he had a pc account before and just transferred everything to his psn account

  • @randallsavagegaming6638
    @randallsavagegaming663814 күн бұрын

    Another thing to note. I am of the opinion that if you pay real money for one of these planes, it should already be modded.

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    premiums all come fully spaded

  • @randallsavagegaming6638

    @randallsavagegaming6638

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SeekerHead So is the F5 for the Japanese not a premium?

  • @ivanvukadin3194

    @ivanvukadin3194

    14 күн бұрын

    @@randallsavagegaming6638 no it's a squadron vehicle They never come fully modded nor do they have and special grinding rules Then have the same modifiers and research power as tech tree planes of that rank

  • @randallsavagegaming6638

    @randallsavagegaming6638

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ivanvukadin3194 that’s nuts.

  • @randallsavagegaming6638

    @randallsavagegaming6638

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ivanvukadin3194 that’s nuts.

  • @MiG21fanboy
    @MiG21fanboy14 күн бұрын

    Ima get the bison, i love mig 21's and its amazing in sim

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I hope you enjoy it!

  • @mokaso
    @mokaso14 күн бұрын

    As someone who does have disposable income for this kind of BS, do not buy this. Never buy at full price. Always wait for a sale, for anything.

  • @FishFlys
    @FishFlys13 күн бұрын

    r73 on a supersonic at 11.3 would be pretty retarded seek but otherwise nice vid

  • @VectorGhost
    @VectorGhost13 күн бұрын

    11.7 is still technically 12.0. lol and i agree, absolutely useless

  • @Loubie2005
    @Loubie200512 күн бұрын

    75… wtf 😂

  • @SharpDegree1829
    @SharpDegree182910 күн бұрын

    The mig-21 bison is NOT BAD. It has an ATG radar, HMD radar, r73s, how is it bad? Especially at 11.7

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    9 күн бұрын

    Bc it’s $75 and mid at best

  • @jamesansley4679

    @jamesansley4679

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@SeekerHeadUnlike the radar this tracks😂

  • @user-cf9mr2pn6x
    @user-cf9mr2pn6x14 күн бұрын

    im buying it cuz gripen :)

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    Fair enough man hope it treats you well

  • @jcool017

    @jcool017

    14 күн бұрын

    I know everyone want the shiny new planes, but please take some time to enjoy the rest of the tech tree too, each era is played differently after all. The Meteors and Swift F.7 are both really fun jets, and the 5.7 and 6.7 Spitfires are good props

  • @SeekerHead

    @SeekerHead

    14 күн бұрын

    I agree with you jcool, but the reality is at this point many people download the game solely to play the modern vehicles. Especially with how Gaijin markets it, I can understand why so many people have no interest in having to grind out the older vehicles

  • @user-cf9mr2pn6x

    @user-cf9mr2pn6x

    13 күн бұрын

    @@jcool017 i have top teir in 3 other countries im not new just dont want to grind all of tech tree

  • @jcool017

    @jcool017

    13 күн бұрын

    @user-cf9mr2pn6x I know it's your choice of course with what interests you, it's just something to keep in mind. Britan is actually one of the trees that I think really shines away from 3rd generation+ jets

  • @Kinski79
    @Kinski7914 күн бұрын

    Premiums for 70+ Dollars should at least have all-aspect Missiles or somthing that makes them COMPETITIVE at an uptier. J-7D for example is one of the worst 70Dollar Premium. No all aspect missiles no Radar missiles weak engine and gets uptiered like 90% of matches. Its like Gaijin saying " hey gimme your money i got somthing "special" for you" and the moment u pay them 70 Dollars for a Plane like the J-7D youll get buttfcked by ANYTHING else on the BR u get matched without giving you the dignity of using a condom.

  • @mikeyplayz8438

    @mikeyplayz8438

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah the F4S should atleast have Aim 9Ls

  • @TakenWithout

    @TakenWithout

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mikeyplayz8438 tbh the F4S is fine without 9Ls. You get AIM-7F for all aspect duty & you get 4 of them

  • @hoijiang1791

    @hoijiang1791

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mikeyplayz8438you have 8 missiles sitting at 11.3, and that’s not enough?

  • @PzIV-E

    @PzIV-E

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mikeyplayz8438 You get the best radar missiles of the BR and the only plane that can counter you, the MiG-23, gives you a launch warning.

  • @cofro3284

    @cofro3284

    14 күн бұрын

    The J7D is fun at least and can work as a support fighter. Just play it like you would an F104. That being said I would love to see it go to 10.7 being it feels like a half way point between the MiG21MF and Bis.

  • @Benjaminsquad391
    @Benjaminsquad39114 күн бұрын

    Skill issue 😉 and I'm very serious about my statement!

  • @Bandit0313
    @Bandit031314 күн бұрын

    Didn’t watch the video, only replying to the thumbnail. The answer is no, not worth it. No premium in the game is worth more than $30. Some of them don’t even deserve to be more than 10 bucks.

  • @peternguyen987
    @peternguyen98711 күн бұрын

    Down

  • @mushokueien8148
    @mushokueien814810 күн бұрын

    Author is completely detached from reality of the game, at top tier only thing that matters is weaponry, and Bison has 2 best missiles in the game. Nobody cares about platform(which is absolute UFO to begin with lmao), you have 2 100% kills and 2 50/50(and only because radar is currently fucked). Even at 12.0 it is bangers, as of last dev iteration it is 11.7 which is ridiculous because you can't possibly defend insanity of R-73 against 10.7 planes. Currently it is THE BEST value premium. You have HMD, you have best missiles in the game, workable radar to use them and good platform. bla bla bla turnrate, bla bla bla speed bleed, who cares when you will send poor bastard into oblivion with HMD and R-73.

  • @Voxelgt
    @Voxelgt14 күн бұрын

    PP

  • @SRC___
    @SRC___14 күн бұрын

    200 viewa in 10 minutes bro fell off frfr

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