$600 for the Moog unit built in Taiwan…..what was the acquisition for? It clearly wasn’t to reduce cost to the consumer or to expand access to more people. I bought the Mother32 and the Subharmonicon at the $600ish price point and partially excused it because of the fact they were built in Asheville. This unit has a filter bank and one VCO lol. It’s a shame……..let’s hope for a better future.

@greenvelvet

Ай бұрын

Capitalism is going to capitalism baby 😎🔥🔥🔥

@amazeus1980

Ай бұрын

Moog is a disaster…they should enter eurorack realm…copy Matriarch filter and delay at least and turn these into eurorack modules. Also Animoog and model 15 vsts are missing. No more Moogerfoogers as well. Pricing is unrealistic and the only synth that is not missing basic features is probably subsequent 37.

@amazeus1980

Ай бұрын

@@greenvelvet it has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with greediness! 😂

@greenvelvet

Ай бұрын

​​@@amazeus1980 Right. As if profit motive, extracting as much wealth out of Labor as possible by paying them as little as possible isn't inherently greedy. Let's say for instance, moving manufacturing overseas while keeping the retail price artificially high. And that isn't capitalism??

@fischergreen4134

Ай бұрын

I don't care I just want one 😬

Love the vest!!!

You complained about them not including a microphone or another instrument, saying you couldn't use most of the included patches because of that. But, you're talking into a microphone, in front of a bunch of other instruments.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

This only takes a dynamic microphone. The one I’m using is a phantom powered condenser mic. I said that I’d be using instruments in the next video. ✌️

@LifeInSpacePodcast

Ай бұрын

For the price they could throw you a cheap dynamic mic with the vocoder 😏

@danielhercules9418

Ай бұрын

​@@Tiger.Arcade you are actually using a SM7B, which is a dynamic mic. The phantom power is for the in line preamp you are using. If you plug your mic direct to the unit it should work fine.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

@@danielhercules9418 Appreciate the info. I tried this already with gain at max and it did not work. I even used a fethead and got nothing.

Those overlays bring back memories. The Micromoog my parents bought for me in 1975 had transparent plastic ones with yellow silkscreen if I recall.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

Good to hear it's made in Taiwan vs PRC.

@Alan_Watkin

Ай бұрын

i thought that i'd much rather trust Taiwan with electrical gear than tac masters of China lol

@greenvelvet

Ай бұрын

For the uninitiated is there some sort of substantial difference between the two?

@asynchronicity

Ай бұрын

@@greenvelvet Definitely.

@glansmill

Ай бұрын

@@greenvelvet Nope

One thing I've found with mine that really helps vocoder intelligibility is adding a little inline mixer to mix the Program output with the VCA output, that way you can add just a touch of your original voice to the vocoded signal. I use a 'Splix' but there are a lot of other possibilities. Good review though, I like mine but that's because I have a ton of gear to use it with. This is definitely not for beginners or people who just want to sound like a robot!

From the sound demos I've heard, it can do really cool sounds (although the vocoder sounds very incomprehensible), but it's really just a fancy effects pedal in a eurorack case. It can do faaaar less than the other Moog semi-modulars, so putting them at the same price of 600$ feels really greedy, especially since they moved production to Taiwan. I don't really see myself getting one of these, unless a used one comes by for a considerably lower price.

@theomnitorium7476

Ай бұрын

@@ChumpyDumps I see. I'm not to deep ino Eurorack, so I'll take your word for it. I own a Sound Studio 3, though, and compared to these three modules, all of which can do amazing things on their own, the Spectravox seems far more limited in it's capabilities.

I hope behringer makes a version,, $600 for something not made in usa by a small company by hand is ridiculous, especially when I got my minibrute 2 new for $350

2:00 Is that thing even RoHS compliant? Moog is not allowed to sell this in the EU when it contains led!

Great review brother. I know u are a huge moog fan. Appreciate the honest take.

lol this is a niche-ass synth at a pretty damn affordable price. There are straight filter banks in Eurorack that cost more and don’t have a power supply, VCO, modulation sources, etc. I hate that they closed the Asheville factory, too, but this is pretty cheap, especially with inflation and the tariffs nowadays.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Good point! Eurorack is so expensive and these modules are pretty good value in comparison to the stuff that’s out there if you tried to gather modules to do the same.

Thanks for the video. I do have to agree with others that the complaints that it’s not great by itself is somewhat unfair though. It’s an analog vocoder and filter bank - of course you need other instruments. If you bought a standalone filter (eurorack or otherwise), would you complain that you need other instruments? You could have tried it with your other gear to show off some of the features? (Hope that will come in part 2) Also the fact that it doesn’t come with a microphone - that is clear when you buy it. Also a relatively decent diaphragm gooseneck mic costs about €100, so the price would be even higher if they included it and half the users wouldn’t need one. On cost - it’s a resonant filter bank - those take a lot to make and therefore have an appropriate cost. Agree that I’m also disappointed that assembly has moved and the whole fallout from the takeover - but that doesn’t mean it only costs $20 to make it and the rest is profit. The profit margin is probably still super thin. This is also probably one of the cheapest analog vocoders out there. Looking forward to part 2 though! 🙂

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Really appreciate your comment and feedback! Vocoder and sounds through it coming in part 2! I wanted to first test it as a standalone synth. It’s just probably the most unique Moog I’ve purchased. Just a teaser, I’ve changed my opinion a lot since recording this over the weekend.

I still use my microkorg as a vocoder. I also run my guitar and other synths as a carrier trough it

Pew Pew Pew 😆

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

🔫🔫🔫

I wouldn't take the Spectravox to a shit fight.

If you like demoing items by themselves can you please do one on the vongon replay?

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Ugh I wish. That one’s just slightly out of my budget price range.

What does the manual look like? It’s not in moogs website yet… 😮

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Luckily Moog has great tutorial videos for now. Yeah, not including a decent manual was odd. It was just a paper with a basic overview like the Mavis had.

@ManCalledMif

Ай бұрын

@@Tiger.Arcade that’s not good. The manuals for Moog gear until before Mavis have been very detailed. Patricia’s tutorial videos have been good though so maybe we don’t need a paper copy manual.

@theomnitorium7476

Ай бұрын

@@Tiger.Arcade that's really a shame. M32, DFAM and SubH had fantastic manuals, they helped me a lot starting out with these modules. I would have been lost without them. Also, they added a lot to the Moog charme with how beginner friendly they guided you through the unites.

@WithTheGrain

Ай бұрын

I’m not sure what you are talking about- the full length manual is in the downloads on the Moog page. It is a full length book like the previous sound studio ones… click the drop-down menu, downloads,and there should be a long list of manuals. There is a full Spectravox manual and a short QuickStart guide…

@WithTheGrain

Ай бұрын

⁠Just watched some unboxing, and while long manual is available as a download, it doesnt look like they include the printed manual which sucks.

I pass on this one but it’s nice to see Moog trying again 🤷‍♂️

Hello. About your comment at @2:47. I owned a Moog Subsequent 25 that I bought brand new. It was made in the USA. It didn't stand flat on a surface, either.😐

Im excited for when theres a bunch for $250 on reverb in a month

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Haha I don’t see that happening unless Moog drops the marketing price.

@asynchronicity

Ай бұрын

Not happening

They want $899CAN for these at Long and Mcquade. The U.S. dollar is a fair bit higher the Canadian dollar , but this works out for $660 U.S. dollars.

Not sure one can get an impression of a spectral processor without putting audio through it.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

For sure. That’s why I’m withholding an final conclusions yet. Stay tuned. ✌️

It's 700 euro in Europe ( Thomann), thanks for your honesty, definitely Moog is dead.

I’m missing the patch cables in mine.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Woah no way?!

@LifeInSpacePodcast

Ай бұрын

The patch cables only come with the Spectravox pro version 😎

Not sitting flat seems bad right off. No way is it worth the same price as the other sound studio synths assembled in the us. I wont be adding this to my moog collection. Too many other great companies to support out there.

@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135

Ай бұрын

fr no cap

I like that they're at least trying to do something different, but this just doesn't interest me personally. Then again, I guess this is simply supposed to be a part of the growing Moog Sound Studio and expects you to already have the other models. Lacking a microphone is still an odd choice, though.

Can’t wait for mine. Love the exploration aspect of it. You getting the behringer gooseneck microphone? 😅

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Haha yes! It sold out really fast! Luckily I got it quick enough.

Oh wow....this is kind of worse than we feared.

I miss my Voyager but I’m done with Moog. Half of the price for the Spectravox is the Moog name. Sad to see a once great innovator become so gimmicky.

"it doesn't have a microphone"??

The $600 price tag for something made overseas is a bit much. Assembly in a factory on a production line normally brings price tags down it never keeps prices the same, and if it does, you shouldn't by it.

I think it’s too expensive still. Sounds amazing Wait until Behringer clones it it’ll probably be $299

well dam

Looking good! Sounding good! ❤

At least it's not fro china , Taiwanese people have a pride in their work

Hard pass on the Cancer and Lead poisoning…😳

Lets face it, the vocoder is not all that. It sounfs flat and lifeless. The filter bank is something we've already seen and can even be had as a Behringer Clone (from thoer system 55). Then ther is the price... There is nothing new here and the price is not warrentes. This is for completists only. I'll pick mine up used in two to three years at 399-

Pretty obvious why they released this before the Labyrintth - because probably no one would have grabbed this first. marketing! I knew what to expect and I am pleased with it, but come on moog, SHOW US THE LABYRINTH ! right?

Ya bro. My new guitar pedal didn’t even come with a guitar. Must be because it was made in Taiwan.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Your comparison almost worked. It’s not just a guitar pedal though dude. It’s also a synth/ vocoder & more. This review is taking a glance at the instrument by itself as it comes in the box. Next vid is covering the other aspects. I mention Taiwan because this is their first release not assembled in Asheville North Carolina. So I was extremely intrigued by how the quality would be and price.

@JustDatBoi

Ай бұрын

Buy more Moog. Don’t ask questions.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

@@JustDatBoi 😂

@VlianVlian

Ай бұрын

@@Tiger.Arcade It's just a marketing problem then. This shouldn't be your first and only synth. I think that's clear and it's fine to make products like that. I'd suspect a lot of people in the market for a $600 vocoder/filterbank already have a microphone. I, for one, don't want to either pay for an extra mic or get a shitty one for free. So maybe they should be clear about it, but I don't think it's a flaw.

I mean it does a lot. Music equipment is expensive. Anyone collecting eurorack modules knows that. I think once you’ve explored all the possibilities you might come around on it. But it’s obviously not for everyone. Unless you have a real use for a device, don’t buy it. It wasn’t a secret that a big chunk of its use is as a processor for other sources and that it didn’t come with a microphone. Correct me if I’m wrong..most gear with an xlr input doesn’t come with a microphone.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Wish I could test products before purchasing. Main goal was to use it as a vocoder. My microphone just came in the mail so I’m excited to try that portion out.

@DoctorRevers

Ай бұрын

@@Tiger.Arcade cool man. Looking forward to seeing how it goes. I just think these moog semi modulars require time and subtle changes to explore all the sonic capabilities but I see a lot of people very quick to judge after only a few minutes. I’ve had the ss3 for months and am still discovering new sounds and uses. And that’s what I was expecting and why I purchased them.

I’m sorry this is why these companies go out of business. It’s has no meaning for the user market.

People complaining about the cost and where it’s manufactured (btw, it’s being assembled now where the boards were ALWAYS made) need to look at how much a Filter Bank cost. The ones that are cheaper than this are fixed filter banks with less filters. The ones that cost more than this have more bands but also tend to not shift the frequencies nor have a built in oscillator. It’s very clear some of y’all have no idea what type of product this is and how much competing products cost lol. $600 is actually very reasonable when there are similar things to this going for $1000 in eurorack.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

It’s very new for many of us. Thanks for breaking it down. ✌️😎

Hate it when my guitar pedals don’t come with guitars

Why don't you stop talking so much, and hook something else up to it? You complain about a Filterbank not doing much on its own lol. There's only a few actual audio demos up on KZread, you could've actually provided cool content people are clearly hungry for and instead yapped for 6 minutes with barely a demo.

@Tiger.Arcade

Ай бұрын

You must’ve not listened. Did you even see the thumbnail? This video is about how the Spectravox is by itself as it came in the box. I also clearly mentioned with all my yapping that there will be more videos. I originally recorded over an hour worth of demoing. So relax and enjoy the show. ✌️

@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135

Ай бұрын

@@Tiger.Arcade i agree no cap