The fact that kattara can master bend after a few words from aang and cutting out her whole arc of being jealous of aangs water bending ability is crazy

@allandm

3 ай бұрын

Omg i was so upset they removed that. They really watered down her character, she was very one note in the netflix version, they removed all of her flaws.

@adrian225

3 ай бұрын

They also removed aangs water bending abilities... from the adaptation of a season, of which the ENTIRE POINT is that aang tries to learn water bending

@wetnoodlex

3 ай бұрын

Women are naturally just better at everything, so it makes sense.

@user-fl4el2mq2x

3 ай бұрын

@@wetnoodlex🤫

@allandm

3 ай бұрын

@@wetnoodlex it's so annoying, the original was already very female empowering, they really didn't need to do that to Katara

Funny how they were too afraid to keep in Sokkas sexism, but then forgot to give Katara a purpose or personality 😂

@frediliofili7259

3 ай бұрын

Facts. She had zero flaws

@kingofcards9516

3 ай бұрын

That's just modern progressive media for you.

@Rena-2189

3 ай бұрын

@@kingofcards9516wrong it’s corporate media. Most people don’t like it, for some reason ceos think it sells

@kingofcards9516

3 ай бұрын

@@Rena-2189 modern corporate media is modern progressive media. And you're right most people don't like it, but they push it because that is what modern politics deems acceptable.

@screamingseal4805

3 ай бұрын

@@Rena-21892 words black.rock

One of my favorite scenes was when we saw the Zuko-Iroh flashback and Iroh said "Everything I need is on this boat" (and then nothing else, no additional cringe dialogue) and it cut to Iroh in a canoe with the only thing in the boat being Zuko. Damn.

@Dan_Tasty

3 ай бұрын

Loved that scene and pretty much everything to do with those two. Highlight of the series for me

@Kasiarzynka

3 ай бұрын

One thing I really liked is how they highlighted the motivations of many characters, especially from the Fire Nation. We get to see how Ozai actively plays Azula against Zuko, and how he plays games with his family in general. We do see how he actively makes Azula feel like she's never good enough, something we knew from the original show since her first appearance, BUT I can't recall it being shown as induced by Ozai on purpose, best we got was how she got treated better when Zuko failed the little firebending show and she didn't, when they were kids. We see how the bond between Iroh came to life, when Zuko offers him a thing (I forget what it was exactly) that Lu Ten gave him, knowing having something of his son would mean the world to him. Then he just sits with him silently. One thing I liked a lot is how they connected 41st division with the crew of Zuko's ship. I don't remember the connection being mentioned in the original show, but it was so touching, knowing that all the men on the ship are only alive because of him and his sacrifice, and seeing them immediately recognize that and turn their loyalty to him. It really makes his decision to speak up and against the plan to sacrifice them all the more special and meaningful. Correct me if I'm wrong but the original show never tells us of the faith of those soldiers that were going to be sacrificed in the diversion?

@anbuhyuga8299

3 ай бұрын

Yupp, I actually got the feels a few times with Iroh and Zuko. I unironically skipped some chunks just to get to the next Zuko Iroh scene. They were the only scenes that wasn't filled with cringe acting and dialogue. The only scenes that made me forget I was watching a live action remake was scenes with general Zhao, Zuko and Iroh. And I'm sorry, I know it's a kid, but my god... was Ang's actor bad. Every single attempt of an emotion on that kid was just agonizing to watch. The only thing that was on my mind when he was on screen was: "How did he get the role?" "Is he the kid of someone high up in the industry?" "How many shots must they have taken of this scene to land on this and say. Eh, fuck it. It's not getting any better than this. Next scene! And how much worse was the acting in the other ones..." Actually, I'm not sorry. Just remembered that the mechanist's son was amazing! There are great child actors.

@liamdietschler5493

3 ай бұрын

@@Kasiarzynka Good positives for sure

@dimitriwillems8735

3 ай бұрын

Didn't he like make a shitty tea joke after the "Everything I need is on this boat" line?

The most offputting part to me was Sokka and Yue. The cartoon equivalent is 23 mins and takes place over 5 days and nights training and planning with the northern temple. In this series they stay one night before the invasion and Sokka & Yue talk two times before going to the garden (+1 in the spirit world). It might not even have felt so rushed if he didnt also have the insta-relationship on kyoshi island also which even came across as more natural. Also Aang not bending a single drop of water in Book 1: Water

@igetboredproductions

3 ай бұрын

A lot of that though was the stupid love triangle with Hahn, who was a tremendously lame one note character. The live action could have just cut him, but instead they actually made him a really good character with a tragic ending. The live action makes some steps backward, but there's also some really good steps forward. Pretty much every scene with Zuko and Iroh was gold.

@Dan_Tasty

3 ай бұрын

@@igetboredproductions 100% agree about Zuko and Iroh

@epicgamerzfail4575

3 ай бұрын

@@igetboredproductions yeah the live action is a good 7/10 for me, like there's some stuff they did wrong but there is also things they did right. pretty much anything fire nation I think the live action improved (expanding on ozai, the 41st, introducing azula early).

@seleviathan

3 ай бұрын

They never explicitly called it Book 1, thats an assumption. Annoying but I think watching you can tell its a loose adaptation. From how they change up certain character interactions with completely different situations or introducing certain characters early on changing their characters and the characters they surround. Like with the whole Jet situation it was a similar motivation but a completely different situation and i don't think its fair to compare the two because of those differences. I think with things like these as a fan of the original you have to take your mind away from that and stop comparing because it gives you a bias view on the material without reviewing it for what it is solely. If it was a sequel you can do that but its not its an adaptation which has to be unbiased. I for one enjoyed it, yes it had its problems but there was a lot i ended up enjoying like the cgi and scenery work was pretty good, the fight choreography was engaging, ths characters had more good moments than bad and the changes though a little cluttered still worked to tell and effective story while atleast trying to hold onto the original in some areas. Im not saying its top notch but it doesnt deserve the massive hate its getting

@Franc3115

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that it is an adaptation and not show of it self and it is bound to get compere to the original.​@@seleviathan

i just rlly dont like how they stripped katara of all her passion and anger she goes through in the show. she just seems so ,,, flat and calm

@honeymama2564

3 ай бұрын

i personally didn't like katara, she had poker face 90% of the time, so stoic and bland, not a single emotion on her face even when yelling at someone

@Rosef1re

3 ай бұрын

Agreed she can't emote at ALL.

@DrGonzz

3 ай бұрын

I trace it back to her not breaking the iceberg out of anger and frustration (which is an important characteristic for her). Once they removed that one little thing, it cascaded into her not being able to be angry or confrontational EVER which significantly reduces her impact and overall strength in personality. So instead, they decided to make her meek, quiet, and naive? Odd choice. An early and strange deviation from the source material made her basically unrecognizable in this live action series.

@Eldersh1eld

3 ай бұрын

she could barely do any bending before meeting aang, and in the original she could at least do things like move water, and the iceberg scene showing her potential

@nathannix3217

3 ай бұрын

I found her annoying in the og show so I didn’t mind the change

The fact that Aang doesn't do any waterbending at all is crazy.

@janderson9477

3 ай бұрын

Probably next season will be water I mean his whole family just died give him a minute but Ang should have ran away when he heard that that’s probably why he was so hard on tozen his son when he was born he was the only one left…

@camdonisbatman

3 ай бұрын

@@janderson9477this season is supposed to be water…

@Killerbeastt

3 ай бұрын

@@camdonisbatman Exactly! They show Katara practicing but never have Aang practice with her like in the cartoon. I thought maybe we could see some when they get to the northern water tribe. But instead they show how much of a girl boss Katara was.

@peanut9938

3 ай бұрын

​@Killerbeastt They literally gave him a reason, he's literally afraid to take on that responsibility and as we see him go on this journey he literally neglects it every time. He doesn't ask to be trained because he's afraid to learn. That's why by the end the Master Pakku was disappointed and said he couldn't be relied on because he should of dud training on his journey. Something aang choose to not do.

@camdonisbatman

3 ай бұрын

@@peanut9938 exactly which was stupid. go ahead and get rid of that android for us 💀

The netflix version is still miles ahead of the 2010 movie, but also miles below the original cartoon

@SillySkull

3 ай бұрын

To be fair it’s really not hard to beat that shitshow. I mean dude they made it possible for one guy to bend a rock, not seven! That’s insane!!!

@CelluloidPsychosis

3 ай бұрын

There is no 2010 movie in Ba Sing Se.

@johncutie5769

2 ай бұрын

I thought it was really good for a first season. Parts of the live action are better than the cartoon for me. Its easier to take the threats seriously because they are more realistic.

@wildfire9280

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@johncutie5769 Live action = more realistic, right? Because there’s no other logic you can use here to make sense of that bold claim.

@johncutie5769

2 ай бұрын

@@wildfire9280 Its a logical statement already not sure what you mean lol

The lack of aangs desire for adventure and goofy whimsical nature makes the actually sense moments of him being angry and serious less impactful the contrast made those moments better. Take when appa was kidnapped or any time he was in avatar state.

@K4113B4113

3 ай бұрын

So true!!

@lilfishnet9265

3 ай бұрын

Personally I kind of enjoy the more serious take ... The whole world was literally suffering for hundreds of years ... They have their laughing moments but with it being portrayed in live action ... It being more serious makes the most sense.. either way it's not a solid show but it's also not close to dog shit... For me personally it's 7/10

@K4113B4113

3 ай бұрын

@@lilfishnet9265 I always see people saying this about live action adaptations of various kinds. How do you know that live action shows are only good or are just better if they have a serious tone?

@lilfishnet9265

3 ай бұрын

@K4113B4113 I say this is only for ATLA ...the world itself is enough to say this...nothing will ever beat the cartoon but in that world ppl are under 100 years of terror, death, and fear..you get the suggestion of that in the cartoon...we're actually seeing it in the live action

@lilfishnet9265

3 ай бұрын

@@K4113B4113 although I see where you're coming from...it'll just be odd to have extremely goofy scenes while in other's ppl are legitimately being burned alive

Aang not ever practicing water bending with Katara is wild

@Agentcoolguy1

3 ай бұрын

He literally doesn't bend water at all 😂😂

@draykohunter6805

3 ай бұрын

​@@Agentcoolguy1I haven't finished the season yet, but please tell me you're joking.

@emo_link

3 ай бұрын

@@draykohunter6805 nah. Just finished the show. Hasn’t bended the water unless you can’t his Avatar State. Anyways, call me optimistic, but I was somewhat enjoyed the show

@Agentcoolguy1

3 ай бұрын

@draykohunter6805 Unfortunately I'm not. He only airbends.

@rickjohnson5752

3 ай бұрын

yeah literally season 1 book water, not a single time he tried to waterbend@@Agentcoolguy1

The best way i could describe this show it "Worse than i wanted, better than i was afraid of"

@candyboiishawty

3 ай бұрын

True

@Mattex21

3 ай бұрын

Fax man, 100% agree

@emmaesta9444

3 ай бұрын

Felt. Its leagues better than what i thought it would be but still not what i wanted

@mvijar

3 ай бұрын

100%

@acenull0

3 ай бұрын

Apt! 😂

I saw this on a reddit thread and it really made sense lol ATLA cartoon: going to a concert ATLA LA show: watching someone’s video of a concert but their seats are halfway up and a pillar is blocking 1/4 of the screen ATLA LA movie: someone 15 shots in telling you about a concert they went to 10 years ago

@JeffreyThrash

3 ай бұрын

Well, at least the Netflix show tried more than the 2010 movie. Maybe it would have actually been passable if they weren’t expected to cram a Nickelodeon series (from back when a single season of a show had to have 52 episodes) into only 8.

@NekoHanyouHanaru

3 ай бұрын

@@JeffreyThrash I just don’t think it needed to be made. Period. I’m personally really sick of things being turned into live action lol

@wyp8098

3 ай бұрын

​@@NekoHanyouHanaruI think it's cool as hell seeing live -adaptations . You're boring. Just don't watch it, just bcz normies like it, it's got you mwaaad, oooah, weeeeb.

@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula

3 ай бұрын

Personally the dragon ball onewa goods​@@NekoHanyouHanaru

@JeffreyThrash

3 ай бұрын

@@NekoHanyouHanaru Me too, but it's good to know that it wasn't the absolute trainwreck I expected it to be. Unfortunately I know way too many people that can't take anything animated seriously, even after being exposed to stuff like End of Evangelion or Loving Vincent, so it's good to know such normies won't suffer quite as much as they would have if they had seen the M. Night Shyamalan version of The Last Airbender. And it gives me an excuse to watch the original yet again on Netflix to send the message to them that there is a market for nuanced animated tales, still, so it's a win-win. Well, win for me and a "draw" for those that insist on only watching the live action remakes of anything.

The scene when Iroh is sitting next to Lu Tens casket, and zuko gives him the lil thing, shit had me in tears not even gonna lie

The thing that annoys me mostly about all the live action remakes we've been getting lately is just this feeling that studios view anything animated as lesser for some reason. Like what does it being live action really add?

@SererityisanEcho

3 ай бұрын

Seems to me that some of the audience also view a show being animated as lesser, because they immediately ask that a live action should be made. It goes from "Wow, that was a good show!" to "Wow, that was good animated show! It needs a live action!"

@lordofudead

3 ай бұрын

Honestly? Some people just can’t resonate with cartoon characters not that they think lesser of cartoon or anime, they just can’t associate a cartoon character as someone with feelings or emotion. It’s a legit thing. What I don’t understand is why when making live action, they don’t add anything new or fun. It’s always a derivative, lesser version than the original, both in writing, cinematography, pacing and narrative..

@ShaCaro

3 ай бұрын

Why 'lately'? This has always been the case. "If I did not make the original, I don't care" goes for almost every adaptation.

@alfanscholz8663

3 ай бұрын

Reach wider audience. Many people just refuse to watch cartoons.

@tropicata

3 ай бұрын

The existence of a live action remake is inherently a slap in the face to the original work they're pulling from. "Hey, you know that show you're a fan of? Well we're adapting it for a REAL medium. None of that kiddy shit. We're finally LEGITIMIZING the thing you like. Aren't you grateful to us??!?"

I completely hate how Aang’s excuse for leaving the air temple was that “he just needed time to think” because it completely frees Aang of the responsibility for what happened to the airbenders compared to him actively running away in the show.

@2xYuW

3 ай бұрын

So his biggest character arc is non-existing then

@zachleetch8138

3 ай бұрын

Yes, in the cartoon there is real shame attached to the fact that, despite it being a very natural response (especially for a child), he does in fact run away. In the cartoon that’s some real shit he needs to process and it looms large throughout the whole show. In the live action, he is simply in the wrong place at the wrong time through no fault of his own and has a simple case of survivors guilt.

@Binks129

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@2xYuW There wasn’t really a character arc with it. The cartoon itself never even gave an end goal of where he was running away too. He didn’t wanna be the Avatar so he got on Appa, left with no destination, got caught in a storm, and froze himself. He didn’t abandon his duty, all he did was not go train in Water bending as soon as he should have.

@SahyuSoley

3 ай бұрын

they shame him all the time in the life action, even Bumi shamed him.

@mr.goblin6039

3 ай бұрын

@@Binks129 He literally did abandon his duty and ran away. The guilt of thinking he shouldn't have ran off and maybe could've prevented the Fire Nation's rise to power drives him to accept said duty through out season 1.

If they release a season 2, they should at least have 10 episodes instead of 8, feels like with 10 episodes it would pace much better

@xxkillbotxx7553

3 ай бұрын

The live action almost has more runtime than the original cartoon.

@sufyanzakir8781

3 ай бұрын

Also make the episodes slightly longer, imo they should make 2 seasons on book 2 so we get to see more character development and more parts of the story from the cartoon.

@PrimeKobeBryant

3 ай бұрын

@@xxkillbotxx7553runtime in real life translate differently dude you can’t just fast forward in real life or throw a flashback and teleport

@xxkillbotxx7553

3 ай бұрын

@@PrimeKobeBryant They literally did all of those things in the show. Also, why can't you?

@wyp8098

3 ай бұрын

Cartoons are different than actual human environments. It would look stupid..... ​That's why, you can't expect them to pace at the same rate that's dumb af.@@xxkillbotxx7553

The biggest issue I had which turned me off to the show, was in the first episode when Katara and Sokka decided to go save Aang from Zuko. Katara was like we have Appa, she flew him like she already knew how to fly Appa. Like it was just another car a person could drive lmao. The animated show at least had them try to figure out how to make Appa fly. He wouldn't even fly at first until Sokka said "yip yip".

@kpoppy9635

3 ай бұрын

Appa also couldn't fly cause he was weak from being frozen in the iceberg. The reveal of Appa flying was so much more satisfying in the cartoon.

@Riptide09

3 ай бұрын

They used that as a comedic timing instead, it was kinda funny but yeah

@brockrock2359

3 ай бұрын

Man i barely remembered the details of the cartoon show its been years except you have no life to remember such small minute details. It was visually appealing and an exciting and fun live action show to watch. Thats all that matters. Enough of the "realism" bs

@Bfkcjscbsnjc

3 ай бұрын

Charlie's opinion on this is dog shlt, he doesn't like what they did with Ang but "the Character did a great job and did it justice" that makes absolutely no sense. Guy is just trying not to look like the bad guy shltting on a bad actor with bad writing. Leave it an incel who never leaves his room to cry about something for the the most convoluted reason.

@emrys1196

3 ай бұрын

​@bfkcjsbsnsbcjc he said he wasn't going to compare but see if the show can stand on its own if someone hasn't seen the cartoon before. Yes he compared the two Aangs and the cartoon version is better however he praised the live action one because Aang is still a good character even if he had never seen the cartoon.

I feel like Zuko and Aang had more bonding than Aang did with Katara and Sokka lol

@54032Zepol

3 ай бұрын

That's how they become friends.

@shawerful5209

3 ай бұрын

Cartoon: this is my friend, he is also the avatar Netflix: this is the avatar, he is also my friend

@aidarjapykeev4544

3 ай бұрын

Bruh, I agree. Seriously, they didn’t show any bonding between Aang and Sokka and Katara

@backroadbeetle4781

3 ай бұрын

I swear Katara and Sokka had more romance than Aang and Katara 😂, they just tossed it all out the door.

@lzyttn139

3 ай бұрын

Secret Tunnel about two lovers and they thought Katara and Sokka being the 2 “lovers” was a good idea

the granny randomly stating the opening to tell aang what happened was the funniest thing ever

@Shovel12086

3 ай бұрын

Man I hated gran gran so damn much that first episode

@lornecarmichael5668

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it was cringe

@phoebewu9346

3 ай бұрын

I have been thinking about that for hours! Just why did they have to add that 😂

@callmecloud8472

3 ай бұрын

it wasnt that bad.. The way she stated it "everyone knows this story, but you" so it makes sense the opening was the legend told of the avatars disappearance

@TrillShvt

3 ай бұрын

@@callmecloud8472yea I agree . It makes sense that Katara would know that story to make it the intro in the OG

I have to keep reminding myself that Appa and Momo were in this. Legit every time they were on screen I went “Oh yeah. They’re here.”

@itscris1973

3 ай бұрын

Same, i kept forgetting they were there

@cnsmooth

2 ай бұрын

They have to keep the budget down I guess, but I hear you

My favorite episode so far was the mask episode, it was almost one to one with the original. I'm glad they did Zuko right. One thing I really thought was cool that they added was the fact that Zuko's crew is the 41st division, the one that he said shouldn't be used as a distraction in the war room. I thought that was great. I don't really know how to feel about the rest

@tannerpayne4384

3 ай бұрын

Zukos actor was so good, homie hitting the leaf hurricane on every second fire attack. I think they should have hella athletic actors play firebenders, since we won’t have any other airbenders aside from aang

@judgement-kazzy

2 ай бұрын

Definitely this. One of my main issues with that episode though is the talk between him and Aang after they had to hide away from Zhao and his crew when his mask got shot, and a couple other stuff.. but yeah other than that, definitely a better episode than the others.

I like how they said the cartoon is too childish but then get offended when you compare the two, because they know the cartoon is the better show in all aspects.

@jneilson7568

3 ай бұрын

Yep, they clearly think the Netflix audience is less able to pick up smart writing and character nuance than the original Nickelodeon one, supposedly made for kids, it's really quite odd.

@nope19568

3 ай бұрын

people saying the live action is the more "mature" version is killingggg me, like just say you dont get subtext and nuance and think overt violence is what equals maturity

@musicbox6144

3 ай бұрын

I hate that bending feels more like powers like telekinesis or like the force from Star Wars. Doesn’t feel like you can only bend through martial arts like the anime .

@dbzbruh3674

3 ай бұрын

The cartoon was way more mature than the live action. Also no child understood everything that was going on. That story is deep with depth. I still watch the cartoon. I’m 28 the live action had me weeping with laughter it’s no where close to the cartoon. Nobody can mimic that masterpiece. I guess the new show did one thing it’s going to make me watch the cartoon again. lol. The lack of writing and story telling is beyond me. That’s what the cartoon did it told an amazing story.

@dbzbruh3674

3 ай бұрын

Funny how they went for a serious approach but literally the most serious character looks like a pudgy 14 year old I expected azula to be so much angrier and a little older looking. But whatever I didn’t find this show but I will say not a fan. Kattaras actor was bad as well.

They straight up removed Aang's first attempt at fire bending and they removed close to all of Roku appearances.

@alexlun4464

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but at the same time they gave way to appearances to the other avatars which is cool since we never got to see much of them or their stories in the animated show. Roku was always the one that appeared the most.

@yournobody6487

3 ай бұрын

Considering how they moved some of the stuff around timeline wise even like stuff from other seasons fully possible they are just gonna keep all the specifc bending related things to that book. Like haru wasnt here at all but very possible that its a season two thing and jong jong will most likely be in season 3 and they could use it to work into zuko ending up being who teaches him. This show isnt perfect by any means but MOST of the changes they atleast made it make sense in the context of this show which is more than alot of shows do when they just change to change. For example putting in kyoshi over roku well yeah because they have this whole "have to be at their shrine thing" and its on kyoshi island would be kinda dumb for roku to make the save there.

@FreshPenguin918

3 ай бұрын

@@yournobody6487they didn’t need to add kyoshi or Roku at that point. They just wanted to give kyoshi screen time but I’m doing so they have to change avatar kuruks entire character to write themselves out of the hole they made. 90% of the changes they made serve no purpose

@yournobody6487

3 ай бұрын

@@FreshPenguin918 Never said it was needed simply said it made sense for kyoshi to show up on her own island...in the context of what they wrote it made sense and worked for what they were going for. The change to kuruk wasnt even a big deal either way he was an avatar that wasnt around but having him actively still doing his duty and it just look like to the outside world he was bad at his job worked...again in the context of what they were writing since its just dumb to try to make it make sense to the cartoon. They wrote in a different direct and it works for what they wrote, doesnt make it better or worse it just lines up with their world.

@aanyamallick7747

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464Kuruk was done well tho. It’s accurate to the comic and the actor does a great job at conveying hurt/pain but still give us that “go with the flow avatar.” The contrast can be seen when Aang asked him to take control over his body and then he explains to us (before hitting the ground with his stick) why he couldn’t

i appreciate this adaptation, as i have a few friends that flat out refuse to watch animations. i got them to watch this, they dug it, now they want to watch the animation. thats a win to me.

@imperfectorganism

3 ай бұрын

@@YonutDonut ok buddy

@darao.4907

2 ай бұрын

exactly i think this is the real purpose of the live action for me its getting so many people to watch the cartoon which is GREAT

@texanmetalhead1

2 ай бұрын

My mother has been adamant that she will never watch an animated show, let alone a "kids cartoon", but after watching the live action, we are now going through the original cartoon and she is loving it.

omashu, northen air temple, jet, iroh captureing these things has nothing to do with each other but they fuse them together

@ReviewBotAi

3 ай бұрын

And they lose some meaning lore wise. Like why do the refugees have the Airbender gilder tech when they live in Omashu? They had it because they were at the temple. Firstly because the temples had the gilders and secondly because it made moving around the AIR temple easier. It's like living in the center of New York and having a tractor. No reason I can't I guess but why would I? Jet basically flew off the handle trying to blow up Omashu because he saw a fire bender. Yes he was a spy but blowing up a city because of one spy that YOU and your crew could have just taken out or forced to talk? A village own and inhabited by fire nation is one thing because they can be seen as on their side but an earth bending nation that has fought against them actively? Why go against your biggest allies in such a way? While the iroh scenes were nice they just threw him in when neither him or zuko I believe had anything to do with any of the other three plots originally.

@BradleyBurke-lv6of

3 ай бұрын

I completely agree, the way they mashed together random episodes took away from world building, character development, and the entire plot of the show, it also made it extremely hard for me, a seasoned fan, to follow. I can not imagine how confused I would be if I hadnt seen the cartoon before watching the original.

@derrickbattle6368

3 ай бұрын

The Cave of Two Lovers was mashed in the episode as well and that is suppose to be in book 2

@theanglo-lithuanian1768

2 ай бұрын

For me it's ashame they fused them together but they actually did a pretty good job executing it. Definitely expected worse when I realised what they were doing at the start.

They removed everyone's character development. They said no to Sokka learning that women could be as strong as men, they took away Kattara's jealousy of how Aang could waterbend better than her, they minimized Zuko's trauma, and made quick work of Aang's not wanting to bear the responsibility (of being the avatar). It's not even rushing the story but downright removed character development. Excellent casting and fight sequences though. The CGI too looked really good.

@michaelmorrissey9565

3 ай бұрын

I agree except on casting. Most of the actors didn’t fit their characters. Also the acting was horrible

@Hawkcam1996

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, It’s impossible for Katara to be jealous of Aang waterbending better than her when Aang doesn’t waterbend *AT ALL* for the entire season, especially considering she became a master at the end of the season. The writers made so many dumb choices concerning the characters.

@ChristianThatLovesGod

3 ай бұрын

@@michaelmorrissey9565agreed on the casting. I think the worst casted characters were Mai and Yue. They had some good ones like Suki and Ty Lee, but most of the cast just looks like cosplay.

@alexlolli2325

3 ай бұрын

Are u fucking special education?? Did u even watch it?? Sokka was literally trying to teach her and figjt her thinking she didn’t know Jack. Then she taught him. And they never rushed him not wanting to be the avatar, he said and talked about it like 3 times in different episodes, how is that rushing, that’s the whole reason he ran to clear his head

@miketirta

3 ай бұрын

So glad they keep the Cabbage man character in Ba Sing Sei. 😀 Err.... it was Omashu. Thanks @Hawkcam1996 .

Sokka: "but the effects were decent"

@RobinsMusic

3 ай бұрын

Cartoon sokka would say that, Netflix sokka would be too busy being serious

@ramennnoodle

3 ай бұрын

@@RobinsMusic it's a reference to Ember Island Players (making fun of bad adaptations lol)

@RT-zn9bj

3 ай бұрын

LMAO that is literally the only good thing I had to say about this show

@hassansulaiman3848

3 ай бұрын

@@RT-zn9bj the acting was ok and it wasn’t bad it was just ok a 6.6/10 my favorite episode was 6

@hassansulaiman3848

3 ай бұрын

@@RT-zn9bj and plus if you don’t like it just stick with the original no one forced u to watched the live action 😂

I loved the scenes with zuko, sokka, zhao, and firelord ozai they all carried in this show

@timothyha2854

3 ай бұрын

Yes I agree. Loved the fighting scenes in this show, and the fire nation narratives definitely carried the show. Love watching Zhao and Zuko go at it and Ozai was badass

@jamesbenz3228

3 ай бұрын

Zhao was incredible in this series. Overall I disliked the live action but I actually prefer what they did with Zhao in the live action. Certainly helps that the actor is incredible.

My main gripe at the end was that the show just grants Katara the title of “Master” yet she never gets any training from Paku. Everything she knows is just stuff she picked up by herself. Yea she’s getting good at Water Bending, but I wouldn’t consider her a “Master” yet.

"but the effects were decent" -Sokka 2007

@SentinalSlice

3 ай бұрын

Hahaha! “They got Zuko’s scar wrong though. It’s on the wrong side” -anyone but Toph

@that_dude_over_there

3 ай бұрын

Yo wait did Sokka predict the future?

@Trilogye

3 ай бұрын

Although I still enjoyed watching the show. This a top tier comment.

@Kango234

3 ай бұрын

​@@that_dude_over_there He already did when they made the movie.

@juneru2

3 ай бұрын

@@Kango234 except the effects in that were crap

Just as a reminder Aang did not bend a single drop of water though the entire first season of the live action.(THE WHOLE POINT WAS FOR HIM TO LEARN WATER BENDING)

@CJayTheProducer

3 ай бұрын

Yeah wasn’t it the book of water 😭

@AstroSully

3 ай бұрын

Ain’t no way 💀 I can’t believe this so what element was he bending outside of air? 😂

@MostHighEmperorPalpatine

3 ай бұрын

(I'm keeping this up cause I wasn't paying attention my apologies the LA is trash and he doesn't bend at all you're right!) He bends water in the south against zuko on his ship… and literally bends water when trying to get frogs and outrun the archers sent by zhao lol. He also bends later and Katara is mad he’s so good at it 😂 bruh rewatch the show

@MostHighEmperorPalpatine

3 ай бұрын

@@polar6826the blue spirit episode he bends water into ice to avoid arrows from zhaos soldiers 😂

@Dickson421

3 ай бұрын

This is not true. What about the scroll that Katara steals from those pirates? Her and ang practice using the scroll. Katara gets jealous that Aang is able to complete water bending basics that took her months to learn.

my favorite part was when Katara's gran gran pointed at Aang and said "he is the last airbender"

2:44 I felt that a lot when I reached the 41 scenes of thirsty Suki staring at Sokka and acting weird around him, like I get it they like each other pls stop lol

Seeing Sokka and Katara entering the cave of two lovers… Yup the writers werent kidding when they said they were trying to make the show like game of thrones

@Excalibur01

3 ай бұрын

And they made it needlessly too long. Sokka had a badass moment where he tamed a Badgermole into helping him and the hippies get out. Aang: We let love find the way Sokka: Oh? We let big furry monsters find the way

@mrsfahrenheit

3 ай бұрын

ahh even tho I‘ve never watched GoT I now this is an incest joke😂 no but.. can you please tell my why this episode was forced in there and wasted in the process ? Felt like they were straight up just using it for the sake of the secret tunnel- meme.. because that talk Katara and Sokka had could’ve happened literally everywhere else

@anut8733

3 ай бұрын

They're just roleplaying the Lannister familiy's activity

@anandareza6889

3 ай бұрын

💀

@Zbeez754

3 ай бұрын

@@mrsfahrenheit I feel like they also partly did it because they’re trying to erase the romantic relationship between Aang and Katara (even though it’s not even *that* prominent in the original besides Aang’s crush, which they’ve clearly gotten rid of).

I never understood the "Wow this series is really good it was received well and has many fans, lets make a live action where we change everything about it."

@Attackontitanfan143

3 ай бұрын

THIS

@afrobuddy4801

3 ай бұрын

Money. That all you need to know to understand

@k--music

3 ай бұрын

Do it again for money, make controversial changes to generate press, get everyone to pay for a month of Netflix to see it out of curiosity or hate watching and get paid

@TheEternalSweetooth

3 ай бұрын

​@k--music It's not hard to watch stuff for free either, why tf anybody still pays for streaming services is crazy

@elolife1375

3 ай бұрын

If they want a live action just do a spin off movie not a whole TV series way too much to cover. Like just do origin in movie 1, friends to enemies in movie 2, and movie 3 is some big war... with a different avatar...

i couldn't watch after gran-gran just started reciting the entire animated intro word for word

@ruthanne1741

3 ай бұрын

same dialogue for this show is so cringe

@Artemis00Night

3 ай бұрын

@@ruthanne1741at least they didnt repeat it for every episode for 3 seasons straight

@bazsux795

3 ай бұрын

​@@Artemis00Night My guy it was the intro what did you expect 😭😭

@sussett

3 ай бұрын

The cringe bending was strong

@tannerpayne4384

3 ай бұрын

I thought that was a nice call back

The writing is actually incredibly meta, they're making the show for future audiences who won't have media literacy and the entire plot being spoon fed will be a major hit

The fact they completely cut out penguin sledding and Aang going avatar state against Zuko when they were leaving the South Pole is crazy to me. And when he goes avatar state when he finds monk gyatso skeleton and they cut out that katara is the one who holds his hand and calms him down is criminal. It shows her compassion for Aang and the beginning of a bond they form and they just cut it out like it’s nothing smh

@steveiguana6887

3 ай бұрын

They also left out Katara catching Aang as he fell from the iceberg. Her face was the first thing he saw when he woke up, and I feel it's a pretty important scene to keep. Easy one to keep too.

@2000xmegaman

3 ай бұрын

@@steveiguana6887 FOREAL it pissed me off. I tried watching it with an open mind and to not be too judgmental but I think they did a pretty bad job not sticking to the source material. It’s okay to change a few things but the way they just cut certain things out was dumb and made makes the show feel more rushed and less emotional.

@villahermosasebastian8794

3 ай бұрын

​@@steveiguana6887they probs didnt want to keep the romance moments between them since aang still looks like a little kid

@adjgamer

3 ай бұрын

It "Wanna go penguin sledding with me?!" Commercial is burned into my brain from my childhood, I almost don't wanna watch it now without penguin sledding haha

@plasticstraw5033

3 ай бұрын

the fact that giyatso doesn’t slaughter any soldiers is actually criminal

They destroyed everything that made Azula awesome. We wanted a confident, intelligent, sociopathic fire princess. Instead, we got insecure jealous tween.😭

@nerdslayer1416

3 ай бұрын

My biggest complaint too. She was so lame in this one.

@joaquim2metros

3 ай бұрын

I somewhat agree, but I did enjoy how she challenged Ozai towards the end of the show and showed that she was confident to go out into the world

@WanMemeTong

3 ай бұрын

she was insecure and jealous lmao

@Cornholio1981

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wanted to see a psycho, and Mai looks kinda chubby, no?? Tai Li is fine as is.

@mikadotakimura

3 ай бұрын

Azula is pretty chubby for someone who’s supposed to be training martial arts every day

Bro, I *knew* this show was gonna be rushed af during the scene with Aang and Zuko after the "blue spirit" rescues Aang. In the animated series, Aang told a short story while Zuko said nothing but here they had a whole ass "we're almost friends!😊" type of talk

The thing that bothered me the most was Aang giving himself up to the ocean spirit. Aang being a pacifist is a big part of his character and him choosing to give himself up to the ocean Spirits has different implications than the ocean Spirit taking over him. Aang's spirit is supposed to be unbendable, which is why he was able to succeed in defeating ozai without killing him. But with him willingly giving himself to the ocean spirit and annihilating the Fire Nation Fleet means that he gave up a part of himself to achieve that victory

@dalminehoff8985

3 ай бұрын

He did it to save another race of benders from being wiped out. Pacifist or not he is the avatar and will do what he has to do when the time comes

@itscris1973

3 ай бұрын

Is that not what happened in the cartoon tho? Aang gave himself up as a vessel for the ocean spirit. He willingly stepped into the water with the fish.

I hate how they just erased all the characters flaws, like Sokka's sexism and katara's envy of Aang. This flaws are major things for their character development, It's improving these imperfections that make their characters so interesting. They didn't need to "girl boss" Katara because she's already badass in the animation.

@samhilton4173

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. The same thing with the Kyoshi warriors. Suki and Sokka become close because they have so much in common, including their mothers deaths. In this live action version they replace Sukis father with her mother. Ruining a character trait, damaging a relationship trait, and making less sense in general. They jist made the village elder ger mother instead because apparently you can't have a male village elder because that's sexist. Nevermind that it's KYOSHI island. Never mind the fact that all the best warriors are women. No, we absolutely have to have EVERYBODY be a girl boss. Its so contrived and adds nothing.

@RaiosSephi

3 ай бұрын

It's basically how alot of people like Batman rather than Superman. Batman is much more relatable.

@twinzzlers

3 ай бұрын

*THEY WHAT* ?

@alexgiles536

3 ай бұрын

They did that only for Katara to learn basic water bending from a man anyways, and from Jet of all people.

@sherry356

3 ай бұрын

I stopped watching by the third episode, I just couldn’t go through it anymore largely because of this (it has other issues too). Awesome visuals and acting, but they ruined the writing and pacing. I feel bad for the actors tbh, they gave it their best, but that can only carry the show so far if the writing, storytelling and character development is terrible. This series also dumps too much information all in one go and mashed all together as well… it makes for really weird pacing issues.

Exposition in this show killed it for me. The scene of Iroh’s son funeral literally starts off with two nameless characters discussing how Irohs son died as if the funeral does not tell us he is dead.

@pewpewpandas9203

3 ай бұрын

That was more to demonstrate public perception of Iroh after the seige of Ba Sing Se, but go off on your media literacy

@chillguy425

3 ай бұрын

For me it was Aang describing who he was in episode one before he left the air temple. I'm so glad the writers chose to tell, not show.

@cobyburdick7695

3 ай бұрын

If you listen to the background music it's leaves from the vine. But messed up and it's done in several scenes

@tdestro9_362

3 ай бұрын

@@pewpewpandas9203I’m not 2 I don’t need to be spoon fed I can come up with my own conclusions

@LegiyonEhellout

3 ай бұрын

​@pewpewpandas9203 I know you use reddit just judging by this comment

what really strange is that they already have a lot to cover from 20 episode alone to make it only 8, yet they add some arc from season 2 like azula and the love tunnel..

@BraydonAttoe-xs4yg

2 ай бұрын

The 2 lovers tunnel wasnt s2.... was it?

Aang episode 1 (LA): Who are you? Where am I? Aang episode 2 (LA): Katara let's smash

The worst change in this adaptation is the removal of fun. In the og, despite their mission, you could still see they were just kids. With this one, apparently all the kids do is exposition dump, announce what they're about to do, or remind themselves where they are. Kinda reminds me of the dialogue in the star wars prequels.

@blackjackjester

3 ай бұрын

It's sadly the state of almost all modern writing. I think it comes from the fact that most writers in Hollywood could never actually be a writer alone. It's truly a talent and a skill, not something you get a degree in...but all they hire is credentialed graduates.

@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588

3 ай бұрын

It’s also like the movie version of the show.

@migl1802

3 ай бұрын

@@blackjackjester So true and unfortunate

@13Kr4zYAzN13

3 ай бұрын

​@@blackjackjesterI'll get flack for saying this, but *this* is the reason I didn't feel _that_ bad about the recent writer's strike The writer's strike in the late 2000s resulted in shows getting worse. The most recent strike I half expected shows to get _better_

@migl1802

3 ай бұрын

@@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588 be careful with that take. The fans snorting on copium really hate when anyone says that lol

When Katara and Sokka go into the Cave of Two Lovers together without Aang, I knew exactly what they meant by trying to appeal to GOT fans

@ibrahimihsan2090

3 ай бұрын

Brother, I'd rather just think they were talking about family love. Though, I won't deny thinking of it that way too. WHY?!

@overlord3083

3 ай бұрын

You dont understand show if you mention familial love there. That cave was about oma and shu who together made omashu ​@@ibrahimihsan2090

@overlord3083

3 ай бұрын

You dont understand show if you mention familial love there. That cave was about oma and shu who together made omashu ​@@ibrahimihsan2090

@toolittletoolate

3 ай бұрын

@@ibrahimihsan2090"Lovers" Is not familial love my friend.

@Sprinting_sprtn

3 ай бұрын

AHAHAHAHAHHA

One thing I am happy about was the cabbage man still being there and being passionate about the cabbage

I will say, although I did like a lot of the things involving the spirit world… I wish they would’ve left a little more mystery to Wan Shi Tong (the Spirit Librarian Owl) instead of having him explain who he is and what type of spirit he is. Especially since going to his library is such an important part of team Avatars journey and finding out about Sozin’s comet. Giving the audience something to chew on helps keep interest in many cases and I think this show severely lacks that with all the exposition.

@stupidbroad

3 ай бұрын

i'm so worried about the final scene where Ozai already has the orrery. I have a bad feeling that they are going to skip over the library entirely, having already shown Wan Shi Tong

@sicongli6594

3 ай бұрын

From the looks of it, they're gonna cut out the entire library arc. WanShiTong showed up earlier; zhao found out about the moon spirit not from the library but the fire sages.

Hats off to this adaptation for its subtlety. No one could ever deny the fact they shout from the rooftops about every little detail. Such a bold choice of storytelling there.

@sarahw4819

3 ай бұрын

🤣

@thedarkroom6416

3 ай бұрын

lol

@migl1802

3 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the finale, "Firelord Ozai, I'm the avatar, master of all four elements. I'm here to stop you from burning this forest during sozin's comet. It is true that when the world needed me most I vanished. But after a hundred years passed katara and sokka discovered me in an iceberg in the south pole. Back then only my airbending skills were great, so I had a lot to learn before I was prepared to save anyone, but I believe I could save the world."

@Chips9741

3 ай бұрын

​@migl1802 I'm really sure this is gonna be in it 😂

@amysteriousviewer3772

3 ай бұрын

I already tapped out during episode 1 when Aang basically told the camera exactly how he felt and what he was thinking and GranGran recited the opening monologue verbatim to the characters.

What you said about the amount of exposition dumps is SO accurate. There are so many per episode that it’s almost comical. I was laughing my ass off when Katara’s Grandma basically recited the entire opening script randomly to Aang in a tent

@kc_h7h

3 ай бұрын

My biggest complaint is what they did to my boy zhao. He's supposed to be a arrogant, narcissist, intelligent conqueror who likes to toy with people in a subtle way to let them know how underneath they are compared to him. Zhao took pride in his wickedness. But in the Netflix version he's just cunning. That's it. There's no other charachter trait besides that

@smorespg3d312

3 ай бұрын

Gran gran ruined everything. No discovery. No mystery. Just straight bullet points of what to do and when

@calvin9436

3 ай бұрын

@@smorespg3d312and Aang was a little sad for 5 mins

@kc_h7h

3 ай бұрын

@@smorespg3d312 and her delivery was horrible aswell

@ethantor.6743

3 ай бұрын

**SHE SAID IT! SHE SAID THE THING!!!**

The final episode, without exaggeration: "We're at the Northern Water Tribe, now we can learn advanced Waterbending." "No time. Fire Nation's here. Katara, you're a Waterbending Master now." "Oh neat. Let's go."

8, 1 hour long episodes is comparable to the cartoon's 20, 22 minute episodes and it still felt rushed

@doremi383

2 ай бұрын

Ikr

Someone said it looks like a stage play where everyone is just cosplaying as their character, and I can't unsee it.

@zachleetch8138

3 ай бұрын

Ember Island Players!!!

@3Guys1Video

3 ай бұрын

Ember Island

@TraeceJay

3 ай бұрын

Aangs glider prop is the worst offender of this

@wheresmypudding

3 ай бұрын

Same bruh

@m00nrac00n

3 ай бұрын

Like the theatre group in book fire. 💀

Aang not knocking those cakes on the monks at the Air Temple with Monk Gyatso is CRIMINAL…they were supposed to emphasize how Gyatso wanted Aang to have a childhood before he walked into Godhood or Avatarhood

@Bootypopper

3 ай бұрын

instead they just have him dialogue vomit how he loves banana cakes LMFAO

@yelloweyes8345

3 ай бұрын

"I love banana cakes. They are soft, creamy, and get in my stomach."

@enetonic

3 ай бұрын

And we have Gran Gran spoiling everything

@AFed69

3 ай бұрын

Jesus christ, i read "cake" and "gyat" and thought some monk had a fat ass in the show

@frankcaggiano8282

3 ай бұрын

​@@yelloweyes8345I don't like sand.....

This review is so good! I agree with everything from the beginning to the end. The awkward friendship dynamic, light-speed pacing, a great spirit world, exposition vomiting - well said!

The fact that aang doesnt practice waterbending once pisses me off

The characters not bantering and always talking about business is a common pitfall, if you do not know what you are doing. I think one of the reasons One Piece Live Action worked so well is because, there was always scenes where people from the crew were just talking to each other, making fun, getting into arguments etc. It was a delight to see the crew just ordering food at Baratie and making fun of each others choices.

@ObscureTimez

3 ай бұрын

They banter slightly but yeah I agree

@paulbrown9328

3 ай бұрын

I think they can easily improve if they do season 2. The characters do banter just not enough. My only complaint about this series is the pacing, exposition dump, and relationships don’t feel natural yet. But overall I like the changes they just needed a couple more episodes to breathe they should’ve had one or two adventure episodes where team avatar does fun and zuko showing up to ruin it. More episodes, more character fun interactions and building, and I think the series can be very solid. Right now it sits at a 6.5/10 but can be easily improved if they take this feedback and knock book 2 out of the park. I feel like if they had this tone for season 2 and 3 it would’ve worked better.

@oguzcanoguz5977

3 ай бұрын

@@paulbrown9328Dude, if you are giving a show 6.5, then it has a lot more problems than what can be simply improved. Show qualities do change sometimes, but never that drastically. And to be honest, I dont remember seeing a show getting better, it is usually the other way around.

@DannyMakesVideosIGuess

3 ай бұрын

@@oguzcanoguz5977 Dude, a 6.5 is not so terrible it can never improve enough.

It was actually incredible how Aang didn't bend any other element even once during this season outside of avatar state. In the original at this point he had already learned water beding pretty much and tried out fire bending.

@pewpewpandas9203

3 ай бұрын

The fire bending was a skippable, but it's fucking insane that they got all the way through book one without a single person pointing out that Aang didn't water bend once. There were multiple opportunities for him to at least start, but every time I thought "oh, he's going to learn to water bend now" they just don't do it, like they forgot he's supposed to be learning. FFS Katara even offers to help teach him with the scroll and he DECLINES. I get not wanting to be the avatar, but this is ridiculous. Other than that, good show.

@cm3368

3 ай бұрын

@@pewpewpandas9203 It wasn't really skippable, the point of it was that Aang got cocky and accidentally hurt someone he loves, this establishes his reluctance and refusal to Firebend that delays him becoming fully-realised and requires the experience of the Sun Warriors to finally understand that Fire isn't just about burning things down, likewise it's critical for Katara to discover she has healing abilities - this itself is rare among Waterbenders, the live-action gets around this by simply making it so all Waterbenders can heal anyway but women are trained to specialise in it, which Katara doesn't even do because she immediately leaves the healing hut to go fight Pakku anyway, and now this is a problem because Katara's healing abilities are important to saving the lives of a few key characters, so either they have to extend the Book One arc into the next season, or everything happens offscreen and Katara is just suddenly reintroduced as a gifted healer, or else those moments of fatal danger don't occur and the healing abilities are never needed while Aang's reluctance to Firebend is probably just a skill issue rather than a psychological block

@pewpewpandas9203

3 ай бұрын

It's skippable in that Aang could simply learn about fire bending's dangers externally rather than it being an internal thing (especially since the dragon thing was more for zuko than for aang). I agree the katara healing is important, but the small change they made doesn't affect the plot in a meaningful way. It's unfortunate that they seem to be offscreening all bending training though (katara's improvements across the show were gradual enough, but we never really saw why they were occurring other than a couple tips from aang and Jet)@@cm3368

@alexzeng9833

3 ай бұрын

​@@cm3368but we already have him being scared of bending in general because of him being more naturally gifted and scared of bending in general in the live action, making all of that redundant because he has that ongoing arc already

@cm3368

3 ай бұрын

@@alexzeng9833 They didn't even do that, he Airbends constantly and only expressed one instance of being afraid in a flashback to a moment he nearly blew two other students off a cliffside, the whole point of Book One is for Aang to learn Waterbending - which he does in the original season through Katara who teaches him what she knows only for him to turn out to be even more proficient at it than her, then they both learn from the scroll, then again from Master Pakku, none of that happens here, Aang doesn't Waterbend once and Book One is completed, although since they already cut out parts of Book Two, maybe they're going to spend the first episode of season 2 in the North Pole still

There's a _reason_ why the original show is so engrained in pop culture, it's a shame that these *egotistical* screenwriters believe they can completely remake ATLA and still achieve the same effect.

zuko, again, is turning out to be my favorite character

@Bleakmidwntr850

3 ай бұрын

Zuko,Iroh,and Sokka are outstanding,katara grew on me as I watched each episode,and aang as well,but the later two need to learn not quite be as stiff would be my only gripe,from episode 4 on they were great but god did katara and aang feel like cardboard cutouts

Aang in the Live Action: Wow, look at those kids having fun. I wish I could have fun. Aang in the Cartoon: HEY CHECK THIS OUT *ball trick*

@vicjames12

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@mrlabeouf9002

3 ай бұрын

Isn't that LITERALLY what he did on the live action show aswell?? The fuck

Love the bizarre sokka and suki scenes lol. They went from being competitive to immediately flirty like it's 50 shades of avatar, instead of being an opportunity for sokka to develop as a character.

@ibrahimihsan2090

3 ай бұрын

That cringed me a lot too.

@gpfhantom1890

3 ай бұрын

yeah, I immediately dropped it right then and there. I saw legit zero personality from Sokka, he is just there, I am sure I am not the only one that felt that. And the pacing is just bizzare, it's too fast and it feels like it's all over the place

@davidmason3671

3 ай бұрын

You want to know why gen Z doesn’t want another avatar adaptation? The people don’t understand how iroh affected us. Zuko. Aang. Katara. The Gang. This clearly just shows we will NEVER get another show like ATLA…. Leaves from the vine

@oftheHowl

3 ай бұрын

They were too scared of getting canceled for Sokka's sexism, so they just completely took out how he improves as a character

@migl1802

3 ай бұрын

@@gpfhantom1890 Dude they were all a massive downgrade. Aang was so serious, katara was emotionless, zuko wasn't brooding. Don't get me started on team Azula. Instead of elite cunning fighters, they were just angsty teens from a CW show that looked like the most mismatched cosplayers.

I work on the set, I can tell you the open scene with the village is crazy, the details of the building, floor and props. The soldiers costume were hand painted nd stitches! Much appreciated the artists of each department put through! Finally I did enjoyed the show!

@dalminehoff8985

3 ай бұрын

You guys did a phenomenal job. Kinda sucks charlie didn't have alot of great things to say without comparing it to the cartoon

one thing that really annoyed me is kataras waterbending progression, in the cartoon she starts as a beginner-intermediate waterbender which makes sense as we see her slowly progress. The live action goes from struggling to move water to freezing shit out of no where within a couple episodes.

I feel like they showed the fire lord too early. Having Ozai be an ominous shadowy figure sitting on the throne dishing out brutal commands added a different level of fear to the monster that is the fire lord. When you finally see him at the end of the cartoon hes just a man. A brutal, greedy man that can do terrible things and think nothing of it

@guynumber3100

3 ай бұрын

Bingo!

@curtiszyr

3 ай бұрын

Fire lord has no dread whatsoever 😂 there’s no villain in this live action show. They butchered king bunmi 😂

@pyronix

3 ай бұрын

they showed azula too early too, and i think the actress that plays her is miscasted. azula (in the animated series) is immediately menacing, but the the actress that was casted to play her looks very kind. girl was struggling to really act like a villain.

@ichigolegend2788

3 ай бұрын

@@pyronix I think hey tried to show how Azula developed in book 1 since we didn't see her in book 1 original. But I agree, they could just leave Azula for book 2 to make room for other.

@QuickThekidd

3 ай бұрын

@@ichigolegend2788she was pretty evil when she was little but i haven’t gotten to the azula ep yet

First thing that really pissed me off was the way Aang figured out Bumi

@keltonmcdonald9750

3 ай бұрын

Saaaame dude. I had no real problems until then. And plus Katara and Sokka being the ones together in the cave of two lovers

@Benkape

3 ай бұрын

@@keltonmcdonald9750THAT. The fucking cave killed me! The band was dope tho. „SECRET TUNNEEEEEEEEEL. SECRET SECRET TUNNEEEEEEEL. they’re doomed.“

@austinken1405

3 ай бұрын

That episode made me hats this show lol. Like iroh and zuko and even jet... was never in omashu. Fucking terrible writing. Katara STOLE the waterbending scroll not gran gran giving it to her. They took out so much character development they skipped sooooooooooooooo much man.

@pandasleepingzzz

3 ай бұрын

What I did like was the cabbages man!

@andrewwilson9123

3 ай бұрын

@@austinken1405Tbf, Katara stealing the scroll is a bit contrary to the status quo of her character, especially when you contrast it with how she reacts to the scams in s3

I have a lot of gripes with the changes made from cartoon to live action, but I really liked how they made zukos crew the same squad that he stood up for from being fodder

Is no one going to talk about how Aang never really waterbends in the first season? He did it so much in the animated show, the first book is called "Water" for a reason.

The "dumbing" down of everything is spot on. The nuances of all the characters gave the characters depth and development and part of the reason why ATLA was a masterpiece. This live action lacked creativity and it's no wonder the original creators bounced.

@CookieMonster-ky1rb

3 ай бұрын

They made the mistake of thinking that catering to adults meant the story had to be dark, not insightful. Ironically, this approach ends up making the narrative feel lighter emotionally. When you replace the fun-loving, friendly kid with someone more serious and focused, you lose the weight of their genuine struggle to hold onto their optimism when faced with adversity.

@J__T

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't care for the 'original creators' whatsoever. "Creative differences" is basically their M. O., so seeing them bounce on that was laughable rather than a red flag. The omens both good and bad came instead in the actual content rather than any leaks beforehand.

The scene where we find out who zukos crew turns out to be is actually a really good twist. And iroh is iroh, you gotta love him

@alexlun4464

3 ай бұрын

I can accept all criticism but on Zuko and Iroh, those two were done well in the netflix adaptation and those who complain remember a different Zuko.

@MrSirFluffy

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464 Yeah, Zuko was done perfect. I actually can't imagine him being done better in a live action. Semi hot take, but I think the Fire family storyline is an overall improvement. Their dynamic makes a lot more sense in the live action. The rest of the story took a nose dive though. Suki was also improved though imo.

@aanyamallick7747

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464yes! The actors have AMAZING chemistry. Let’s not forget Aang and Gyasto.

@CJayTheProducer

3 ай бұрын

i loved this!

@thecarter8700

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464 It’s their voices that kill me They were very well acted But Iroh needs to be able dig deep when he’s encouraging Zuko That voice actor was incredible in the cartoon

I think one of the best things that can be said about the bending is that it never took me out of the immersion. They always feel unique to a live action, obviously they can't be as creative as with an animation, but it almost always lands well. You can tell when they try and be more impressive in important scenes, but in general is good. Regarding the dialogue and writing, for some reason this feels like a stage play. The conversations all seem weirdly fake, kinda like a play . About the problem that its very much "tell, don't show", it's not as bad as Percy Jackson, but it is very childlike. They never trust the audience to pick up on the obvious themes and emotions, and that makes is worse by a lot. But the overall Avatar story still carries it

@Artemis00Night

3 ай бұрын

I would laugh for days if this was as campy and slightly inaccurate as it was just for the end of the series to actually wrap up on the stage of the island play and the crew are in the crowd " THATS NOT HOW IT HAPPENED!!!?"

the ending was so good with the visuals omg, I would've never expected those visuals

To me, it's always a red flag for any adaptation that approaches the source, like it's a problem that needs solving.

@IncubiAkster

3 ай бұрын

Every adaptation is a problem to solve. Cartoons do not translate 1:1 to real life, they look stupid. You have to change it.

@offdeez21

3 ай бұрын

100% agree

@owene2530

3 ай бұрын

​​@@IncubiAksterthey definitely meant it in a "lets change everything that could somehow be perceived as controversial or topical or offensive to any extent" way. They don't approach the source with reverence, they look at it like something that needs fixing.

@flubbajubb4958

3 ай бұрын

Just because they’re trying to do things differently doesn’t mean they’re trying to fix a problem, if you keep things exactly the same in an adaptation then there’s no point in making it in the first place. The whole purpose of an adaptation is to see a different creative mind’s take on a pre-existing story

@velraven8944

3 ай бұрын

The problem is hollywood writers. They fail upwards, always, instead of having to make it to the mainstream on the basis of the products pure quality, people with no talent get handed existing IP's and have the delusion to think they can do better, when really they're just too stupid and too out of touch to even understand the material or audience in the first place

One thing I really liked was the take on Zuko and his men. Not only did Zuko stick up for new recruits, but he saved their lives, and now works with them.

@mrsfahrenheit

3 ай бұрын

agreed! One of the few additions that were great and actually made sense

@TeloMeto420

3 ай бұрын

I feel like that weakens his character ark. He becomes good very late into ATLAB, so he wouldnt have been such a nice guy to his men before the main conflicts of the show that make him realize Iroh is right...

@KingGheedoraahh

3 ай бұрын

@@TeloMeto420agreed, they did something similar on the actual cartoon in the Episode titled “The Storm” when Zuko ignores the safety of his crew to pursue the avatar and it causes a rift between Zuko and his crew. But Zukos action and his uncaring nature towards everyone hints back at why he was banished in the first place and his insecurity about it all, him trying to be this heartless uncaring leader like his father wants him to be. But Iroh being Iroh knows that this isn’t really who Zuko is and tries to talking to the crew about what Zuko has been through. And the episode ends with Zuko stopping the pursuit and saving one of his crew mates. Zuko is still angsty and still tries to hide his feelings away from everyone but these little hints thru the episode show his true nature, sadly all the subtlety is removed from the Netflix show

@ceeb420

3 ай бұрын

Zuko is my favorite character in the original, and I was incredibly nervous as to how his live action counterpart would fare. But I was pleasantly surprised. They really did him justice, in a slightly different, but great way.

@marvle_nerd9818

3 ай бұрын

@@TeloMeto420that same storyline happens in the cartoon though, not the exact thing but zuko says he doesn’t care if his men die in season 1 then at the end of the episode he puts the lives of his men over capturing Aang

As someone who hadn’t seen the animated show (or at least can’t remember much if anything from it) I really enjoyed it but I agree with the fact it felt rushed but 1 thing I think they did better than the animated show (I have watched it now) is the zuko and iroh relationship and that’s saying something because the animated show did this relationship amazingly

Bro I was almost crying with every Iroh and Zuko

I think Sokka was the only actor I actually believed and forgot he was ACTING Zuko was well acted and Iroh too.

@samhilton4173

3 ай бұрын

Zukos actor was awful lmao. Irohs wasn't terrible but the script and direction couldn't be saved. Lol

@johnbarber3572

3 ай бұрын

​@@samhilton4173 lol iroh had no cadence to his speech. Awful script dialogue

@DarkDylan10

3 ай бұрын

@@samhilton4173 thing with zuko is that he really is that childish and immature and evilly cartoonish at the begging so the exaggeration the actor had for Zuko wasn't really that weird for me personally, plus Zuko grows throughout the story specially in the fourth book.

@foxxilyy

3 ай бұрын

@@samhilton4173Zuko’s actor literally acts the same way Zuko did in the show lol

@Mrjohnnymoo1

3 ай бұрын

Nah, Sokka, Ozai, and Suki. Especially Suki….

When they directly state what’s happening and directly state emotion and also have no subtlety, I cannot stomach a show

@PRubin-rh4sr

3 ай бұрын

I've seen some mainstream KDramas to be guilty of this. Instead of showing a character is angry, he just says hes angry.

@GaryBrooks270

3 ай бұрын

so every anime ever

@a.alonso5132

3 ай бұрын

That's the reason for why I will never be able to enjoy 99% of anime out there.

@weeyum99

3 ай бұрын

yep. no reason to be at the edge of your seat watching this show when they just constantly recite exposés and shove you back in your chair

@forxfilms

3 ай бұрын

L take

The waterbending being more splashy definitely stood out, I can attribute this to Katara being a rookie waterbender until she goes to the Northern Tribe and she puts her experience to the test. Agreed for the most part, it just lacked oomph!

The only thing that would make this show better is if they actually told the actor (who plays Aang) to just be a kid, along with the rest of the team avatar (Katara & Sokka, maybe Toph). They really missed the whole being a kid thing in the first season, but they still have time for it.

Yeah the rushing is what is killing it for me. Once they started doing Bumi, Jet, the engineer from the northern temple, and the cave of two lovers all in about one episode, I could feel it going downhill.

@martinaguiluz4063

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I kinda didn't like that either. I thought they would spend a whole episode on Jet and his crew. I hated how they included stuff from S2 as well. It's as if the showrunners were trying to say "Hey, we won't revisit these characters and locations in the next season, so we'll show everything about them in these 2 episodes".

@tomi832

3 ай бұрын

well, it's more Jet, the engineer and Bumi in 2 episodes...of 50 minutes each. In the end they did get more time. In general, I think that it was actually done better here with them. I personally dislike Jet's episode and find the engineer's boring. I think that it was much smarter to intertwine them and it actually works. The problem is I think more about the writing...But I actually prefer Jet and the engineer in the live-action than in the animation.

@TWHowl

3 ай бұрын

It doesn’t get worse though, it keeps an even “decent” vibe, w highs and lows throughout. The ending was pretty good. I hated the live tunnel change too, but I understand a lot of the pacing/plot changes.

@martinaguiluz4063

3 ай бұрын

@@TWHowl Yeah, I'm with you on that. Even though I don't really like some of the changes done here, I'm still entertained watching this.

@mycenaeangal9312

3 ай бұрын

Funny thing is I’m pretty sure the run time for the live action is actually longer than the animation or at least they’re very very close. The only reason this feels rushed is because they kept putting new stuff in to the point where they ran out of time.

Katara did not go through the development and just girl bossed her way to be called a master! They even changed a line from the show when Zuko tells Katara "You found a master, haven't you?" now she replies with you looking at her. which is BS one water bending scroll does not make you a master!

@alexlun4464

3 ай бұрын

You're right but you're ignoring the time jumps from episode to episode. I understand it's been months from the moment they found aang to when they reach the northern tribe. Also don't forget Katara is a waterbending prodigy.

@MrSirFluffy

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464 Yeah, but prodigy's still have masters and the fact Katara didn't have one was lame. It doesn't even add to the story for her to be her own master, as Paku was still friendly by the end. The Katara arc in the North was done terribly.

@aanyamallick7747

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464have we forgotten what Pakku said?? “Raw talent isn’t enough”

@prashil3k594

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@AmiAki

3 ай бұрын

@@alexlun4464oh it’s been months? Lmfao I didn’t even get that impression i thought it was like days to week or so in time jumps

The background when flying kills me but the fire bending slaps

The music was great. They did a good job. Although everything sounded so dramatic lol. Still it was good. I even caught a piece of a song from my favorite movie 'The Last Samurai'. 30 minutes into the 3rd episode where Katara and Jet are talking about their past, you can hear what sounds like the beginning of 'A Hard Teacher', by Hans Zimmer in The Last Samurai OST. I would go as far in saying that they took it from the original. It sounds damn near identical. Check it out for yourself 👍🏼

Over time, I've learned that when a showrunner claims they want to 'appeal to a mature audience,' they actually mean they're going to dumb everything down to the point that everything is juvenile and meant to appeal to complete knuckle draggers. Which means they want to get the biggest possible audience, which says a lot about how they see said audience. And it sounds like this show is what I was expecting it to be: a slower paced version of the movie, and ultimately a cliff notes of the animated version. So I think I'll pass on this.

@Walhor

3 ай бұрын

My wife just said it best: instead of making show for kids and adults, it's made adults acting as kids.

@acousticcallum

3 ай бұрын

Knuckle draggers is wild XD

The actor who plays Zuko was surprisingly great. I liked most of his scenes

@jordanidell

3 ай бұрын

i love the actor who plays zuko!! i’m not sure if you’ve ever watched pen15 but hes the same actor that plays shuji in that show. hes so incredibly funny

@zachleetch8138

3 ай бұрын

Yea he was good, not all of what he was given was good, but I think he did a solid job as an actor.

@margarethmichelina5146

3 ай бұрын

Even his grunts sounds like Zuko from the cartoon. Honestly, Zuko, Iroh and Ozai's actors are great on this show.

@ishtarbruh9172

3 ай бұрын

So far, every fire nation scene is great. It’s the main 3 that concern me.

@jackreynolds975

3 ай бұрын

@@ishtarbruh9172I think it’s the poor writing that messed things up, actors feeding off scraps

I love that people like you exist and work so hard, this era has so much poison, so many series that are toxic to memories, so much hatred and agendas, etc. Thanks you from saving me and others from wasting time and money.

I just hope that in season 2 that they increase from 8 episodes to maybe 10 or 12, I think that would've helped with making it way better. Tho when it makes emotional scenes, it does it really well tbh in my opinon. The scene of Iroh's Son's death ceremony was beautiful in my opinion.

For the past several years Hollywood has been giving signs that they hate animation. This constant need to "remake" and "reboot" animated shows, video games and films into a live action. Making changes that turn the story into something that's unrecognizable from the original because the writers thought they could do a better job or "fix" something.

@adanl129

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s anything as complex as an irrational hatred for animation, I think it’s just a lack of creativity. They don’t have any new ideas so they look at these beloved animations and decide to try and copy paste the success by resurrecting it in a different format. Just corporate ignorance and greed plain and simple

@shadowdemon2272

3 ай бұрын

Just for comparison, are there any examples of live-action media being remade in an animated format, whether they turned out good or bad? (Asking legitimately) Edit, based on feedback: The Animatrix Broadly speaking, superhero genre adaptations, like TMNT, the DCAU, the Spiderverse, the Boys, etc Tekken?

@IncubiAkster

3 ай бұрын

Using a known IP is free money and a safe bet. Simple as.

@jacobfrye3614

3 ай бұрын

spiderverse is the main exception to that rn

@candiigurl7893

3 ай бұрын

@@adanl129 I agree with your point, too. Lack of creativity is definitely a key problem.

One thing that bothered me about the show was that everyone introduced Aang like he was fighting in the WWE. "The one who will bring balance, the hope for the world: the Avatar."

@Alino-

3 ай бұрын

Imagining Aang fighting Ozai while John Cena's theme music plays is pretty incredible.

@thespaldo

3 ай бұрын

AND HERE COMES THE AVATAR WITH A STEEL CHAIR!

@brendanb2982

3 ай бұрын

Zuko even calls Aang the " Ultimate Warrior " early on

@kermitgotthesickkicks4265

3 ай бұрын

*AND HERE COMES THE AVATAR WITH A FOOKIN WOODEN STAFF*

@vanillaoreo251

3 ай бұрын

WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT

I watched it and honestly the biggest gripe I have is how rushed it felt. The friendship problem wasn’t nearly as bad as you described. It was actually really good I see really good potential for season 2 and I think since they haven’t named the season book one: water. I actually think they plan to stretch this out to 4 seasons which I would definitely be okay with, due to the small number of episodes.

I think the Iroh Scene of him telling Jee that he and everyone was saved by Zuko was chefs kiss.

Zuko noticing Katara being better at bending and saying she found a master is ridiculous because Katara didn't take any lessons from Pakku up until that point and now the other deciples calling her "master" too like, she still hasn't gone through a single lesson in the show wtf

@whitewolf-cy8gq

3 ай бұрын

Then Katara says “you’re looking at her” like bro no!!! Katara trained with Pakku made him realize his sexism was wrong like wtf

@blacksiren18135

3 ай бұрын

This is part of why I think the live action failed to do well in balancing the source material while also making its own additions. You can’t keep dialogue like this that was in the original show when it makes zero sense in the live action. I can’t tell if initially they planned to have Katara train with Pakku before fighting Zuko but cut it so now this dialogue is out of place or if they just genuinely put it in without thinking about the context.

@curtiszyr

3 ай бұрын

They don’t care about character development. She takes no pride in healing ability. She’s not sassy

@jonathanvenit9103

3 ай бұрын

Aang didn’t even learn water bending at all either lmao

@zachleetch8138

3 ай бұрын

It’s just because that’s what Zuko says in the original and they wanted to keep that line for some reason even though it doesn’t make as much sense with all the cuts

It's not the same without the "Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked"

@smittyjjensin558

3 ай бұрын

Gran gran said it in the most wooden expository line

@RaffyDGoat

3 ай бұрын

Gran Gran said the intro word for word and it felt so random 😂

@LuisSierra42

3 ай бұрын

@@smittyjjensin558 that gave me intense cringe

@TheBfutgreg

3 ай бұрын

The funny part is GRRM style shit would've eaten that up voraciously

@TIM3THI3F

3 ай бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 Fr lol

I think the water bending actually being weak until the end was a good choice, because katara doesnt really have the strength yet and she even says in the show “I want more power to my bending”.

The reason why more shows are focusing on "Tell, don't show" is because they focused more on iconic lines that hopefully gets repeated by audiences then turn into memes. They focus more on dialog and exposition to make it feel more mature. The only screenwriter that can pull off so much dialog and still have action is Aaron Sorkin. Atleast when he writes dialog it supports the character and the scene.

Aang not waterbending at all is like how in the first Harry Potter film, Harry doesn’t cast a single spell 😭

@wills9705

3 ай бұрын

But was it really that important in the 1st season of the cartoon? Not really. It's a few scenes. I can see why they would cut that out. I'm expecting they'll really dive into his water bending training at the start of next season.

@shooterDisease

3 ай бұрын

@@wills9705 Of course it’s important they go to the North Pole specifically to find a water bending master for both Katara AND Aang not just Katara it’s why the season is named Book 1: Water

@wills9705

3 ай бұрын

@@shooterDisease Please realize that Season 1 of this series is not called "Book of Water". This series is an adaptation of the entire Avatar series. I don't think you can look at it through the lens of one season. Or expect it to be a 1:1 translation of the cartoon. In this story, he was rushing to the Northern Water Tribe to help stop the fire nation after Kyoshi warned him of the danger. A completely different motivation than the cartoon. I bet he'll start his water bending, training with Paku, at the start of the next season.

@shooterDisease

3 ай бұрын

@@wills9705 You said ‘was it really important in the 1st season of the cartoon?’ and it was And if it’s important in the cartoon then it should be given some level of importance in the adaption and not just pushed off for a later season that is not even confirmed yet

@b__w_4565

3 ай бұрын

@@shooterDisease it was a few scenes cuz, relax. lol yall are just wishing it was the exact same show in live action......that would be too boring im sorry. he doesnt water bend that much in season 1 my guy.

Why do all companies think that making a live action remake always is a good idea? If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

@Deathmare235

3 ай бұрын

Tbf the expectations for an avatar live action isn’t really high

@KodaiVibes

3 ай бұрын

this was gas you’re tripping lmao

@silverhawk8699

3 ай бұрын

Because they crave money above all else, if _done right_ (key words there) they're very profitable projects. But most of them are too greedy/impatient/incompetent to realize that honoring the source material is what will make it the best live action it can be.

@snopdogg2x

3 ай бұрын

To appeal to a new audience.

@Mvgical

3 ай бұрын

One piece wasn't bad

The craziest aspect to all of this, is that (at least in Australia), when you search for this show, the first thing that comes up is the cartoon, as well as the live action. Pretty much says it all.

This show's only redeeming quality was that they seemed to have understood Zuko & Iroh's dynamic is super important to the story. The fact that the little soldier boy melody was playing in the scene's about Iroh's son made me feel some type of way for sure. Other than that this was a flaming pile of polar bear dog doo