Modified Cast Iron Anvil- Yes, it can be done

If you have a cast iron anvil, access to a good MIG welder, and an inordinate amount of time, you too can make your stupid, useless cast iron China-made anvil into something that a professional blacksmith might not laugh at, all the while proving to the non-believers that it can be done.
Incredibly, the regular .035 mild steel MIG wire holds up very well on cast iron with proper preheat. You don't need to buy special alloys if you don't want to, though you may get better results overall.
The hardface wire I used specified that it was good against impact; some alloys are meant more for abrasion, so check around before buying the first roll of hardfacing wire you see.

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  • @gateway8833
    @gateway88334 жыл бұрын

    The project is interesting, but my Blacksmith soul cried out to see all those Anvils sitting in the weather, for the love of Ogun get some oil and a trap for those Anvils.

  • @xxskippernate409xx6
    @xxskippernate409xx65 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Ive been asking blacksmiths about this, they say that you cant. I wish i saw this before i bought my steel anvil, i really like the sound of an iron anvil with a steel face. Thats how a lot of old wrought iron anvils were done, welded steel face.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed! There were some surface cracks in the face due to the nature of the wire, but I spoke with the people who bought it some time later and they said it held up well. Still treat it as an experiment! Good luck. 🙂

  • @Ms.Nightshade
    @Ms.Nightshade4 жыл бұрын

    Your skills with an angle grinder are amazing! It looks like the anvil was faced with a surface grinder! Awesome job!

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's nothing special. Just decent tooling.

  • @bengrosser8722
    @bengrosser87223 жыл бұрын

    A little hint you will get better results with stainless filler rod the ductility of the nickel helps prevent cracking but not as well as pure nickle

  • @charlesjohnson-qc6hj
    @charlesjohnson-qc6hj3 жыл бұрын

    Jealousy RUN's DEEP in this little world of anvil lovers... All he is doing is showing it can be done,,, not trying to prove anyone wrong or show he's a pro... A little free time project nothing more... People don't'a got'a do it his way... It's short enough to the point... So why any thumbs down at all,,, I can only think they think they'er better.. Truth is he could of done it differently or with different types of wire or what ever... He answered the question he raised,,, and did a good video saying what all he tried that's all... Good vid good job... Now get your ass back to work...

  • @ryanp860
    @ryanp8604 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I just purchased my first anvil and when it arrived I found it in bad shape. So now thanks to this I have a good place to start to fix it.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good luck!

  • @paragjh284
    @paragjh2843 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I love it. Actually this was the thing I was searching for for a very long time. Thankyou...

  • @anvilrepairs
    @anvilrepairs Жыл бұрын

    Nice modification, can’t wait to see the Hay budden plans

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper7804 жыл бұрын

    8hr lunch break, great job you got there, nice looking anvil.

  • @caotropheus
    @caotropheus6 жыл бұрын

    Very nice and informative video. Shows a very nice alternative to get a "good enough anvil". I fabricated my anvil by arc welding (full penetration most of it 7018 rod) chunks of steel and hard facing rod was very expensive, as you said "cost more that I'd like to admit". You invested a lot of work in this project and with just a bit more work you could have started in a bigger cast iron anvil and get a "more substantial" final product. Thanks for the video

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Cool to hear someone else made one of their own. I could have started with a bigger one, perhaps, but this one I got for free, and if I somehow messed up it wouldn't be a huge loss. Besides, I'm more confident I can take on a larger one now that I did this with great results. All part of the plan. :)

  • @MrCody20
    @MrCody205 жыл бұрын

    Yea, warning for the scream would have been very appreciated.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @veruslupus
    @veruslupus5 жыл бұрын

    did this end being remotely ecconomical?

  • @JourneymanRandy
    @JourneymanRandy4 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. I need to do similar work to my anvil. Thanks

  • @jcnpresser
    @jcnpresser5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve wondered if this could be done, now i know. Thanks.

  • @danbance5799

    @danbance5799

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can it be done? Sure. I wouldn't recommend it. Hardfacing wire is more expensive than tool steel. For about $45 you can get a 1/2" piece of tool steel for the top. That's easier and will likely perform better. Add a hardy and pritchel if desired. Harden and temper. Bevel the top of the cast iron anvil substantially and then weld your way out to the edge. I added a 1" thick top to the big chunk of mild steel that was my starter anvil, and it's awesome. I got it from my steel supplier - it was a piece of cut off from a special order - for $20. Get to know your local steel supplier, they are to a smith what a butcher is to a chef.

  • @RCHanlin
    @RCHanlin5 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU for this video!! You helped (I hope) shut down a Non-believer!

  • @jameshall8914
    @jameshall89142 жыл бұрын

    Nomcast electrodes! They are the bomb for cast iron! I fixed me broken cast iron vice.Holds like a champ!🤘😜🤘

  • @eastin6868
    @eastin68684 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm way over a year on seeing this and you probably already know by now but if you use a rosebud attachment for your torch you can heat up more of the anvil a lot faster. Great video though buddy keep it up

  • @shadowops3653
    @shadowops36535 жыл бұрын

    :) little tip on the edges you can clamp a copper bar or stick some ceramic weld backing along the edges so you can keep nice square corners. Will save you a lot of grief on the edges

  • @shadowops3653

    @shadowops3653

    5 жыл бұрын

    The weld won’t stick to the copper or ceramic

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have never heard of that trick before. Thanks for the tip.

  • @shadowops3653

    @shadowops3653

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cave of Skarzs I’d go with the copper bar for the price point and re usability though. I’d get a couple pieces of 3” by 1/4” or 5/16” or 3/8” flat copper bar (whatever thickness your metal supply store has. The thicker the better). You can also clamp it under holes that need filled in steel. You won’t ever be sorry you had them! Ps if you gap the bar with a piece of welding wire or shim on the edge of that anvil the weld metal will flow through a little giving you just a little material to grind off. Also let the bar cool before removing it with a hammer cause it’s pretty soft when it’s hot lol. Cheers

  • @allenmays3340
    @allenmays33403 жыл бұрын

    With all the cheap cast iron anvils out there, it's good to know they can be made useful. Now I know what to do with the 91 pounds of cast iron I have that is shaped like an anvil.

  • @dholmes3307
    @dholmes33074 жыл бұрын

    If you really want to weld cast iron, build a large fire and get the whole thing a dull red.

  • @conautiver
    @conautiver4 жыл бұрын

    How much did this anvil cost in the end?

  • @camaxtlichimalma759
    @camaxtlichimalma7595 жыл бұрын

    I remember an old fellow told me years ago to put cast iron in sand to keep the heat up

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have heard that too.

  • @davemoody4517

    @davemoody4517

    4 жыл бұрын

    From another old fella, setting anything in sand will keep the heat in. I have a few partners in crime and we use agricultural lime, I have found it holds the heat much better.

  • @kimcurtis9366
    @kimcurtis93665 жыл бұрын

    Very nice JOB!

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thankee sir!

  • @oldscout2514
    @oldscout25145 жыл бұрын

    What made the welding wire splatter the way it did ? You made a really nice anvil.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The cast iron itself makes the welds spatter pretty badly. Also, because this is just MIG, that also causes spatter, but not too badly. The hardface wire was inner shield, and that stuff tends to spatter a lot as well.

  • @thingmaker3
    @thingmaker34 жыл бұрын

    Now all you need to do is grind off the "55" and replace it with a "62."

  • @haroldarmstrong6288
    @haroldarmstrong62885 жыл бұрын

    Good info

  • @jwhiteker1
    @jwhiteker12 жыл бұрын

    Can you remember roughly what settings you ended up with on the welder for each wire? I'm doing a very similar one this weekend.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid I don't. I do remember that I turned the heat up pretty high.

  • @hdryder1568
    @hdryder15685 жыл бұрын

    Why did you use a gas shield with flux cored wire? I'm a newbie and just bought a hay budden 80pd anvil that is damn near toast but I'm going to try and reface it just not sure how yet. Do you think I could just grind it down flat and it will work. Its got a divet in the center probably 1/2 inch and sound dead in the center. The face is mushroomed out like a lead bullet lol. Most would say I should have passed on it but it was $100 I couldn't resist. Any insight and suggestions would be a blessing and the foundation for a game plan to having a working anvil. Thanks in advance if you'd lend your opinion and knowledge

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, the face-hardening wire only came in flux core. In any case, shielding gas doesn't hurt flux core. As for your Hay Budden repair, I would first like to die inside at the damage you described. . . (Sounds like one I saw on eBay. Did you buy it from there?) I can't say I have repaired damage that severe on those older anvils, but I can give you my opinion. With a divot that deep, it may not be the best option to try to grind down to it. Bringing it up level with the rest will probably make for a more usable anvil, because on my Hay Budden, the hardened face is only half an inch thick. You could probably grind or cut off the mushroom, especially since that is likely full of cracks as it is. If you keep what is left of that steel plate there and weld on top of it, it will probably be an easier weld as opposed to welding to the wrought iron body. I hope that helps. If you have any other questions ask away.

  • @matthewdenty7760

    @matthewdenty7760

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fork lift forks is a good faceplate Done me good for 3 years now

  • @kevinstutzman515
    @kevinstutzman5156 жыл бұрын

    Heck yea new video

  • @Chris-pb3se
    @Chris-pb3se5 жыл бұрын

    Did the hard facing wire require reverse polarity like typical flux core?

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it did, that didn't seem to affect anything.

  • @markharrisllb
    @markharrisllb4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve wondered if anyone has tried this, now I know...they have. How much wire did you use please? A very interesting video, thank you,

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for not replying sooner. I used probably five pounds of wire, tops. Most of it was the mild steel MIG wire.

  • @jasonsytsma9367
    @jasonsytsma93673 жыл бұрын

    Curious how this anvil has held up? Has it cracked or chipped along the edges?

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could tell you. I sold it a while back because I needed to downsize my tooling situation. But it held up fine for as long as I had it.

  • @magicdaveable
    @magicdaveable5 жыл бұрын

    Nice job.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, David!

  • @brinjoness3386
    @brinjoness33865 жыл бұрын

    Would have loved to see a more detailed explanation on testing if metal is hot.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    S P I T O N I T

  • @toverublacksmithing9196
    @toverublacksmithing91963 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know if you could do this to a 102 pound Peter Wright anvil. The anvil I am talking about is my great grandfather’s anvil and someone tried to fix it with just mild welding wire and they took the rebound and hardness out of it. So I want to know if I should do the same to this one.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    3 жыл бұрын

    Might check out Essential Craftsman's video on anvil repair. I believe he touched on what to do with a soft anvil. As long as there's enough hardenable material you might be able to reharden it.

  • @VNV67
    @VNV675 жыл бұрын

    WOW great video... Thanks Looks like you needed a rosebud to heat that cast iron up a little faster.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    It would have been nice. Didn't have one, though, much to my chagrin.

  • @timothykeith1367
    @timothykeith13675 жыл бұрын

    Can Stud-welding of cast iron to steel can give good results? Screw in steel studs into the cast iron base with the stud pattern matched with a 1/2-inch to 1-inch steel plate. Then, weld the heads of the steel studs to the steel plate.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had never thought of that. From how it sounds, I can't say I would trust it more than fully welding something, but it would be more solid than just trying to weld a steel plate to a cast anvil.

  • @vanreliant5584

    @vanreliant5584

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stud welding 1/4" cold rolled steel to the face is what I did, and this worked very well have forged various items on it. As originally purchased I couldn't even forge a piece of lead without damaging the face.

  • @danielcrawford7315

    @danielcrawford7315

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 , idk but from what I've heard... Preheat cast iron anvil after all your prep work of course for 2.5 to 3 hrs as close to 500 deg f and preheat you top plate also. Have everything set up and ready to weld. 1st set anvil in welding spot. 2 lay an 1/8" fluted rod at each end horn and heal bent so they wont roll 3 lay top plate on the use nickle55 rods to completely fill the whole entire gap between the anvil and the top plate. * note if your not a fast welder or have to stop for any reason replace anvil back into oven and keep it as close to 500 deg f as possible That's the way I was told to do it. Gives you 100% weld between the anvil and the top plate

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@danielcrawford7315 Sounds good to me. Thanks! I might try that some time, since it is fully welded.

  • @brianmcmillan7426

    @brianmcmillan7426

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is not "stud welding"...that is welding a steel plate to an anchored stud, two different animals.

  • @aidenallen4518
    @aidenallen45182 жыл бұрын

    I just bought one of those acciaio anvils for like 137 for an 88lber. and its actually steel. I think if your going to buy a cheep anvil its better to just look around for something thats at least a decentish material

  • @kevinklingner3098
    @kevinklingner30984 жыл бұрын

    You need to use cast iron specialty wire for bit to be successfully because of different strengths etc.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    My friend, the proof is in the pudding. The chocolate iron pudding.

  • @Eggomania86
    @Eggomania865 жыл бұрын

    I am going to have to try this with a harbor freight anvil! I am a welding student and a hobbyist blacksmith. I don't have $1200 to drop on a good anvil. Why not use newly acquired skills!

  • @therealamerican99.76

    @therealamerican99.76

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eggomania86. Did u do it?

  • @huntertheredneck4578

    @huntertheredneck4578

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't need 1200 for a good anvil I just picked up a old volcan 103 pounder for 225 yesterday

  • @vileasphunk7789
    @vileasphunk77895 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if it's possible to do the same process as, but instead of metal rod weld to the Anvil, can you use an 1/4 inch steel plate??

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That has been done before. However, you cannot get as good of results, since from what I have seen the plate was just welded around the edges, leaving a small gap between the anvil and the plate that will reduce rebound and it will have to be replaced eventually.

  • @VNV67

    @VNV67

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 Yes but what is you did as you did here and drilled the 1/4 plate with holes same as the anvil? Also grinding the face of the anvil to as flat as you can before applying the plate. Then filling the holes and around the edges.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@VNV67 Like I said to another commenter, that would probably increase the durability and rebound, but I would still trust a fully welded one over that. If you have no other choice, then that probably would be a good option.

  • @iridios6127

    @iridios6127

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Vile As Phunk for better results take 1/2 or 1 inch plate . Also i like the idea --- drill couple holes , and weld through it . 8 holes will be optimal,i think.

  • @iridios6127

    @iridios6127

    5 жыл бұрын

    - - @@caveofskarzs1544 rebound is BS.

  • @goranzivkovic7254
    @goranzivkovic72545 жыл бұрын

    NICE

  • @colin-manyeates-clan5221
    @colin-manyeates-clan52215 жыл бұрын

    I wonder, could you solder or bronze "weld" a piece of steal plate on top?? and I'd use a toaster oven to heat it up .. a lot cheaper and time saving than torch and more even... Just a thought..

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, give it a try! I'd love to see that.

  • @ExtremeCrafter
    @ExtremeCrafter3 жыл бұрын

    it looked like a cheese crater in the beginning

  • @TheMattzki
    @TheMattzki4 жыл бұрын

    Bloody hell i jumped up and tried to go back to work then, realised im at home...whoever that was shouting "back to work"! Just stop it......

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @superdave2112
    @superdave21125 жыл бұрын

    Neat! Just curious - why not just weld a hard steel plate to the top?

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a good question. I will go over that in another video when I get around to it. But the gist of it is that a hard steel plate welded all the way around the edges will still have a small gap inside that cannot be seen. This will reduce rebound, and may lead to it eventually breaking due to the constant but slight bounce between the two metals.

  • @superdave2112

    @superdave2112

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cave of Skarzs not if you milled the two joining surfaces perfectly flat first! Easy Peasy! You could even lap the two surfaces afterwards if .001" wasn't good enough, but I think it would be. I'll let you know how it goes..... Maybe a video! I have the same cheap cast iron anvil. I think you have to do all weld on the horn though. I admire your patience and dedication!

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's possible, but I would trust a fully welded face over a plate any day. ;) I have actually done that on another project, but decided against it. What I might suggest you do is drill through the plate in a few places in the top plate, and plug weld it to the main body. In theory it could reduce vibrations and increase rebound.

  • @samnottheotherone4363
    @samnottheotherone43634 жыл бұрын

    Any recommendations on what you would do different?

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sure. I would preheat it hotter for one. Next I would use a cast iron welding rod for the first layer at the very least. Might not put as much mild steel in, since that was a big reason it took as long as it did. Lastly, I would have a thicker layer of the hardened steel.

  • @samnottheotherone4363

    @samnottheotherone4363

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 thanks. I'm thinking of fixing up an anvil, probably just needs hard facing but I was curious.

  • @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname
    @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname5 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if this could be done I have an anvil about that size but is twice the weight and defiantly cost alot more but wanted to k ow because a friend wants a cheap one but you get whatyou pay for and if a good steel was on top it might be ok

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I believe it could be done. Depending on how you would charge yourself on labor time, this may be a good investment. Does that answer your question?

  • @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname

    @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 yes thank you would it be a good or bad idea to drill holes through the the steel so there is more weld to the top

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would really depend on what it is made of, and what process you are using to weld. If it is a steel top, no. If it is cast iron, yes. If you are using a stick welder, no.

  • @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname

    @Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 ok thanks again your response is appriciated

  • @14022240625
    @140222406255 жыл бұрын

    If I'm not mistaken I think those anvils are cast steel it welds similar to cast iron you can do it nicely with mig but has to be crazy hot pre heat cast rod on a stick welder d/c works best but it's still not hardenable would have been easier to seal the edges of a high carbon steel plate with weld and forge weld it on and grind off welds this takes less money work and is the way it was done for centuries

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps. But I didn't have a forge large enough to forge weld this large a piece. Thanks! If you ever forge weld the face of an anvil yourself, I would love to see it! I know one blacksmith who has, and he said it wasn't easy. There aren't a whole lot of videos about that.

  • @huckstirred7112

    @huckstirred7112

    2 жыл бұрын

    It had to be a cast steel or it would not have welded the way it did

  • @vileasphunk7789
    @vileasphunk77895 жыл бұрын

    So you think your procedure, work fine with that 15lbs harbor freight anvil? But you improvise it to different specs

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was 55 pounds. Sorry if I didn't say it. And yes, it does work fine. Great improvement

  • @vileasphunk7789

    @vileasphunk7789

    5 жыл бұрын

    What temperatures did you use your mig welder at?

  • @vileasphunk7789

    @vileasphunk7789

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you use mild steel

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    The MIG welder heat was set at 25, but it can be different for every welder. I just used a setting that felt right. As for the steel, other than the hard-facing wire, everything was mild steel, yes.

  • @captainchaos3053

    @captainchaos3053

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cave of Skarzs What the feck heat is 25?

  • @timsmith8165
    @timsmith81655 жыл бұрын

    Yes pinging helps cast iron relieves stress. I have welded the same broke vise back together three times. The last time it held several years and is still being used. I guess. I used rods made for cast.

  • @captainchaos3053

    @captainchaos3053

    5 жыл бұрын

    tim smith Vice will be made of cast steel not iron.

  • @davemoody4517

    @davemoody4517

    4 жыл бұрын

    captain chaos not so, very few vises are cast of steel, it’s too expensive.

  • @jerod5636
    @jerod56363 жыл бұрын

    JFC dude. RIP headphone users. When he says he’s doing it at work mute it for 30 seconds or you can kiss your ears goodbye.

  • @danielmoss2089
    @danielmoss20895 жыл бұрын

    Are you sure that anvil is cast iron? Nether the swarf drilling nor the sparks look like cast dude. Nice video.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fancy seeing you here! I'm pretty certain. I guess I didn't show it here, but when grinding the bevel the sparks were definitely matching those of other cast iron pieces. It also welded like cast, dented like cast, and had what looked to be a cast line, not to mention I have never seen an anvil from China that wasn't cast iron.

  • @KyznetcCrimeanBlacksmith
    @KyznetcCrimeanBlacksmith2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @nrnrnrify
    @nrnrnrify3 жыл бұрын

    "Look how he massacred my boy...."

  • @shmupejr367
    @shmupejr3676 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid it's been a while

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah, I know. :P I have three other videos in the making, but I'm not always able to get back to those projects.

  • @QuinBarhaug
    @QuinBarhaug2 жыл бұрын

    Make another video on this anvil. Take and fill in the gaps on the side add onto the heal and drill a pritchel hole

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    2 жыл бұрын

    Would if I could! Ended up selling it.

  • @QuinBarhaug

    @QuinBarhaug

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 aww bummer I thought about doing that to my anvil I have the same exact one but i am getting a new one and that one is kinda sentimental. A guy gave it to me for my very first anvil. I’d feel bad to modify it but I wish it were more usable

  • @QuinBarhaug

    @QuinBarhaug

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 but if you ever get to it do it again. But instead of filling in the sides grind off the little lip on top before hand then hard face it and add onto the heal.

  • @shmupejr367
    @shmupejr3675 жыл бұрын

    Hey any new videos in the making it has been a while

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. . . Three. But my computer went kaput so I can't do anything with them.

  • @bryanduke1973
    @bryanduke19734 жыл бұрын

    Why not heat treat the anvil?

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would hesitate to bring cast iron anywhere near water when it's been heated. . .

  • @SeppoVataja
    @SeppoVataja4 жыл бұрын

    That anvil had a steel top. The shavings prove it. Cast would have been more like a dust coming off the drill

  • @dcbowling80

    @dcbowling80

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought that too from the sparks from the grinder.

  • @slc308
    @slc3085 жыл бұрын

    Honestly you could make good money hard facing cheap cast iron anvils like that. Especially since you made that material so thick before you hardfaced.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That has been a thought of mine. I would just need to fine-tune the process to make it cost effective.

  • @slc308

    @slc308

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cave of Skarzs also I have soft firebrick rated to 3200°F if you’re interested

  • @ToddMcMahon
    @ToddMcMahon5 жыл бұрын

    The ONE THING that I wish you had shown was a rebound / bearing-drop BEFORE doing all the welding. It would have been nice to see the before and after. Might help to quiet down some of the nay-sayers! ;-)

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know! It slipped my mind to do it.

  • @jackass315
    @jackass3153 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure he mean cast steel>>?

  • @mrducklington786
    @mrducklington7866 жыл бұрын

    I wish I saw this sooner!!!! KZread didn’t give me any notification.., but awesome video!!!!!

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.

  • @gh778jk
    @gh778jk5 жыл бұрын

    wouldn't the cost of the Chineseum anvil plus the all the mig wire and, no doubt some worn out grinding disks, amount to a small cast steel anvil? Paddy

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's what I was trying to figure out here. And it's pretty close in price, but mostly because of the amount of time I sunk I to it. If I were to do this again, I believe my process would be more cost-effective.

  • @gh778jk

    @gh778jk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Noble attempt. I am glad it worked out in the end. My first Idea would have been to weld a piece of cast steel on top of the Horror Fright anvil. I have seen anvils made and sold like that on a commercial basis. I am no blacksmith, but I have a small 20 Kg anvil in the shop, sitting on the workbench, as a surface to tap things in to place (or hammer a pin into something, you know) and that too has a nice flat and very resilient piece of cast steel on its cast iron body. On a fun note.... when I first got this I mounted it on some soft 8 by 2".... so the first time I used a hammer on it, the whole contraption was so 'springy' , it nearly hit me in the face ! All the best! Paddy

  • @Mikenperu

    @Mikenperu

    5 жыл бұрын

    that Hardface wire (10lbs) is as much as forged steel Chinese 66lb anvil. Still very good video. Def not cost effective for me. And you have a nice selection of anvils!

  • @Neeverseen
    @Neeverseen3 жыл бұрын

    6:19 Warning for headphone users

  • @captainchaos3053
    @captainchaos30535 жыл бұрын

    Are you sure that's iron? It makes sparks and shines like cast steel. That's a fortune in mig wire and a lot of time. Truth is if your material is hot enough cast iron works just fine. Many a blacksmith worked on a cast iron anvil for years.

  • @deanrantz1112
    @deanrantz11125 жыл бұрын

    That's a lotta lunches you missed

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    >_> I. . . uhh. . . didn't JUST work through my lunches. . . But between you and me, yes, it was a lot of lunches missed. ;)

  • @dynagoat7374
    @dynagoat73745 жыл бұрын

    6:20 I think I just lost some hearing

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @simonhenriksen3924
    @simonhenriksen39245 жыл бұрын

    Use pure co2 to get a better burn

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's the shield gas I use.

  • @cuttheloop
    @cuttheloop4 жыл бұрын

    @6:20 wow...just blocked you from ever showing up in my time line again.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't that loud when I was editing, lol.

  • @theaaronvirgo
    @theaaronvirgo5 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure you were not welding cast or wrought Iron the anvil face's are tool steal forge welded to the base at the time they are made!

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not all of them are like that. This one was most definitely cast iron.

  • @DementedDoom

    @DementedDoom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Virgo harbor freight has a 55 lb cast iron anvil, and they are total garbage. They totally exist.

  • @Thedeaconoftrade
    @Thedeaconoftrade4 жыл бұрын

    Why not just weld on a miepce of steel plate, like a cutting edge or something, drill some holes through both and fill a few spots in the middle, would be way easier and alot cheaper

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    I considered this. It may work, it may not. But in the case of this, it would be welding a steel plate to cast iron, and while it would be faster and cheaper, it would not be better, since the connection is in jeopardy simply because of the material difference and the lack of connection. I may be wrong.

  • @alexandermarlow8084
    @alexandermarlow80846 жыл бұрын

    This needs an epilepsy warning lol :P

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. Perhaps.

  • @josemejiacortez4165
    @josemejiacortez41653 жыл бұрын

    Sell me one I need

  • @deantape2759
    @deantape27595 жыл бұрын

    Nooooooo...... dude you want a hard face not a soft one and theres now micro airgaps that mess with its vibration properties. Probably reduced its value to a 3rd of what it was worth.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    . . . Why do you think it was soft?

  • @fuckthedumbsh1t
    @fuckthedumbsh1t5 жыл бұрын

    the yelling was absolutely not necessary. I had to resuscitate my wife at 3 am then deal with her attitude until the next day

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you were joking, I'm laughing. To be honest, even if you are serious, I am laughing. Sorry, tho.

  • @fuckthedumbsh1t

    @fuckthedumbsh1t

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 no need to apologize, either way I have to deal with her legally, might as well make the day interesting. the video was worth the consequences.

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fuckthedumbsh1t Lol.

  • @Mikey-ym6ok

    @Mikey-ym6ok

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel your pain bud. Hope your balls are still attached

  • @haroldarmstrong6288
    @haroldarmstrong62885 жыл бұрын

    Nickel. Inconel

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would be "best", of course, since nickel alloy cast iron welding rods are MEANT for welding cast, but as I said at the beginning, I was exploring the possibility of welding cast iron with just regular MIG wire. Also it's cheaper.

  • @rockyroney2666
    @rockyroney26665 жыл бұрын

    There is a difference between cast iron and cast steel I'm betting it is cast steel

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why do you think it is cast steel?

  • @rockyroney2666

    @rockyroney2666

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 welding with a wire feed and when you where grinding the sparks where yellowish orange cast iron they would have been red

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rockyroney2666 Ah, I see. Well, whether you believe me or not, I believe it was cast iron. From my tests prior to even attempting this, and from previous experience, it was cast iron. But, maybe you're more experienced than me! Let me know. The video does not catch the sparks' color well, and I only now saw that. In real life, the sparks were darker. If it were cast steel, the sparks also would have had sparkles at the ends; these did not. I also cut into a corner of one of the feet to break test, and it broke and looked like gray cast iron. As for welding with MIG: That was kind of the other point of this video. Right at the beginning, I gave examples of test pieces of cast iron I welded with mild steel, and stated that I even beat on it with a hammer. I was trying to prove it was possible, and reasonably preferable to buying special rods.

  • @huckstirred7112

    @huckstirred7112

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caveofskarzs1544 The way it welded . You would have had nothing but a mess if it was cast iron

  • @andymsmith
    @andymsmith2 жыл бұрын

    Why not just replate?

  • @andrewvida3829
    @andrewvida38294 жыл бұрын

    As an academic exercise this is OK, but it is not a practical solution, all else equal. Far easier solution: buy an actual anvil. :)

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    4 жыл бұрын

    But of course.

  • @chrisdavis3816
    @chrisdavis38165 жыл бұрын

    Too labor intensive... Buy a railway scrap Make it cheaper...

  • @caveofskarzs1544

    @caveofskarzs1544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cheaper. . . Yeah. Better? No.

  • @jeffkushen5586

    @jeffkushen5586

    5 жыл бұрын

    Railway track a) is illegal to gather, and b) has no real mass to absorb the shock of your hammer and rebound it back at you. Better off using a stump with a rail connector plate attached than a piece of track.