EDIT: We are aware of the audio compression issues - its to do with a dodgy mixer which we have since condemned to the depths of hell - Future streams and videos should be back to normal quality. thanks. Howdy Everyone, Chris here! Well Mike has now finished Endwalker - Don't worry story videos are to come, we're just getting back on track after the race. Now Mike is starting to take a look into the more MMO aspects of 14, and in today's video he talks about one of the coolest farming systems he has seen. Also you probably saw the pic at the end of the video😃- if you fancy yourself Emet Selch on your wall as made by yours truly, you can pick one up along with our other Displates here with an amazing 25-29% discount! displate.com/preachgaming?art=619e85e06e135

@6DifferentWaves

2 жыл бұрын

Any chances on having chat on the videos when showing Mike's reaction to crazy stuff like getting saved 3x in a row in the future? I really wanna see how they reacted to it too lol Thanks for the video! Eagerly awaiting the EW stuff!

@Xilibrius

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as I realized the Amarot/Emet displate was from you guys when i was looking on line, I instantly bought an XL. It looks so dang clean, only problem is my walls and fans made it fall so i'm waiting for replacement magnet order to show up.

@kimaclaret

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Chris. Good work, Chris. Thanks!

@bobbykotick1163

2 жыл бұрын

What a strange room

@vomaufgang

2 жыл бұрын

Edit: Nevermind, caught up with the vods and it came up last stream. :-) Hey Chris, just something I noticed: Since changing PCs Mikes voice sounds really, really compressed and clippy both on stream and in this video as well. Compare the sound of this video to one from before the new PCs arrived and it should be very obvious something is wrong. Maybe his audio settings got lost or something? Anyway, thanks for the video and all the great stuff you lot do!

One of my favorite parts about Maps is the way differnet groups develop like...superstitions and traditions for them. Someone I know always picks left, one group always does the same dance, another always prays to Ramuh. It's great. Also a testament to maps is that like, I never even considered it a farming system until this video right now. I mostly just thought of it as a fun way to make gil.

@sylva_c137

2 жыл бұрын

Groveling (emote) in front of the chest for portal spawns & door clears,works like a charm :')

@lucascadigan-carranza2019

2 жыл бұрын

I had a run where an FC mate did squats and I did the ritual prayer emote during every door cutscene. We got to the end.

@ILonelyWolfI

2 жыл бұрын

My FC started petting the chest before opening it, after it worked for me like 5 times in a row =D

@heidiallen824

2 жыл бұрын

We kept going left until we start seeing the gold on the right. Then went right lol

@taronzgaming7739

2 жыл бұрын

My fc and I teabag the chest with the squat emote and always go left. Works 80% of the time, every time.

I LOVE fishing in FF14. I'm not even farming anything, i just really enjoy lvling it. And ocean fishing is SO much fun.

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

When you get the rainbow bonus time in Ocean fishing you just have to scream "LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"

@KMark2688

2 жыл бұрын

Ocean fishing is the only good part ABOUT fishing.

@Nihonguy

2 жыл бұрын

Omg yes whenever I'm tired of fighting stuff I'm like "just gonna go fishing" its so relaxing i do dream of catching one of everything but no rush for it fishing is a game a patients

@tomcoleman8702

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Another plug for ocean fishing… you CAN level 1-90 through ocean fishing. Which I call “the party boat.” And you can get desynth up to 50 or so, and sell the water crystals. And it’s so much fun! Specially with the arts, achievements, and the fact you can queue as a group.

Bad RNG drops in these can be somewhat alleviated by the amount of gil that you'll be passively earning by playing these maps and you'll come out with enough to just buy the rare item/material from the market board which is also pretty great, though naturally you'll want to earn the gil and obtain the mat to come out all the richer! But still, it's an option!

@Hornswroggle

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you gotta remember all of the rewards get multiplied by 8 players. And you only need 1 map per group so if you pool the money that you get out you can just buy more maps and keep going pretty much indefinetly.

@novasiri7809

2 жыл бұрын

Did maps last night with my FC, and we all walked out with EASILY 500k just by chilling for three hours and bullshitting around in maps. While also capping our tomes for the week without realizing it. It's so de-stressing and FUN.

@Sovek86

2 жыл бұрын

@@novasiri7809 the FC I'm in does maps every wednesday night at 8PM EST, even with the lower level maps, the gil rewards alone, you'll get AT LEAST 200K on a bad night in 2 hours, and that doesnt include rare mats. a party of 8 will get 1.6M-3.2M in 2hours collectivly. Also to those on Aether DC, Goblet, Ward 9 plot 38 if you are having trouble finding a group to do the lower level maps.

It's kind of ironic, but one of my favorite things in FF really is that you can just... not play it. And even if I came back after months of not playing, getting up to speed really isn't a huge deal. Compare that do 9.2.5, or god forbid 8.3, where you're just utterly fucked for weeks, if not months, if you skipped a patch or two, it's so refreshing.

@crazzluz1702

2 жыл бұрын

So I agree with this almost 100% but catch-up in WoW is not bad now. I just resubbed the other day, and I finished the ZM campaign in 3 hours for my Unity belt, got flying in ZM in 30 minutes after, got my 291 Lego with no Torghast, and am ilvl 250 with my 4 piece guaranteed in 2 weeks. Altogether it probably took 4-5 hours of play, and I leveled a fresh covenant from 1-80 while I was doing it. It was definitely bad in 9.0 and especially 9.1 and 8.3, but 9.2 is actually pretty good for catch-up.

@rface0

2 жыл бұрын

If someone told me to eat ice cream every day I'd start to hate it extremely quickly versus it being a treat I can choose when to enjoy. I think of it like that.

@ElyskeTheDonut

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazzluz1702 wondering how long the hiatus was between cancellation and resub was tho

@crazzluz1702

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElyskeTheDonut I quit in October.

@fakemanky6838

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazzluz1702 i quit in january 2021... i guess i need a lot more time? Or works the catch up aswell? Thats btw a honest question.

My FC does a treasure map contest every so often where we split into a few parties and try to burn through as many maps as possible within an hour, with points given the more floors you climb, winner gets a small prize. Great activity for groups to do

@kbigglesworth

2 жыл бұрын

We run maps of various levels every Saturday. It’s a good time for my FC to get together and hang out after a long week :)

@trxe420

2 жыл бұрын

lol I might be in your guild because we do the same thing haha, good times.

@fridgegremlinffxiv

2 жыл бұрын

My FC does this too! It’s so much fun to do! When there’s time, we like to help sprouts do the lower level gathering maps as well. A good FC bonding experience :)

@ArchieGamez

2 жыл бұрын

Just did it yesterday, its so much fun, the memes and the amount of copium when door not opening is just funny lol

@krysaltepsyr8134

2 жыл бұрын

My FC did our first little map event about a week ago. It was three of us. I ran my first treasure portal and we got to the end after getting rainbows on the last 3 doors.

Ishgard Restoration/Diadem is another way to multitask while leveling/grinding. There’s really so much there, and the leveling is super fast as well.

@Ben-hl5ur

2 жыл бұрын

He spent some time in Firmament and Diadem today and he seemed to really start getting in to the intricacies of crafting.

@aslanameret

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ben-hl5ur that’s fantastic! I will need to catch up on the Vod with that. Did he get to do the moogle scratch cards or a fete?

@keremcantarhan

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone says that but I actually hated the Ishgard/Diadem system and I'm an omnicrafter. I just leveled my professions trough beast tribes and company turn-ins. I'm not sure why everyone loves diadem and I hate it.

@Bug_Berry

2 жыл бұрын

1400 hours in and I still have no idea where the Ishgard thing is.

@DogiTheWallcrusher

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bug_Berry the slums area should have the starting quest. Clear out those blue + quests

It's so good that even after probably hundreds of hours of maps at this point, I still feel all the emotions, it's not dull. They've nailed it.

Whilst treasure map dungeons definitely lean into the gambling route, I love that rather than it being "the house always wins", it's the player who always wins. Just goes to show that you don't need to be stingy with your rewards to keep people engaged in the grind

@tjl9458

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrKnaives That didn't used to be the case. It used to be that it would cost 100 MGP to play and you could get like 30-40 MGP and lose a little. You'd end up winning more than you lose over the long run, but you'd have a whole day where you'd lose. But, partway through Stormblood they changed things so you always won. I suspect it was to ensure they didn't run into issues with gambling. Despite the fact you can't pay any money for the currency at all. Note that there's no MGP associated with mahjong at all, aside from the challenge log. That was a deliberate choice so it wouldn't fall afoul of any gambling laws.

@krysaltepsyr8134

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjl9458 Honestly glad it was changed just because even if you have bad luck it's satisfying to know that even that little bit of MGP you gain is going towards [insert expensive Gold Saucer item here] and over time you can collect enough to get that thing you want.

I've been waiting for you to get into the side content. Can't wait to see your take on the crafting/gathering jobs and their quests. Some are really basic, others take some pretty nice turns.

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

I found the botanist ones to be quite good, while being very simple, grounded stories.

@fivelfivel

2 жыл бұрын

I still remember that legendary fish quest from ARR.. holy shit, the rush when weather and time of day was right to catch one of those. Your heartbeat razing and yet you’re just fishing in a video game. :)

@CybersteelEx

2 жыл бұрын

BLU

@Ren99510

2 жыл бұрын

I very much enjoyed almost the entirety of the ALC questlines.

@gateauxq4604

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the land/hand job quests can get surprisingly emotional too-was blown away by that.

The older I get the more I felt I couldn't participate in raid content due to time constraints but casual content like maps here allow me to play an online game with friends and feel like I'm gaining something all while just relaxing.

One thing I'll add: the randomness of map loot is mitigated by the fact that virtually all loot can be sold for gil. And in the process of running these maps, you will make a fair bit of gil in addition to the actual drops. So if there's a specific piece of loot you want, you can just buy it off the marketboard instead. EZ.

Honestly, Mike visibly had so much genuine fun doing this. I have a feeling he entered what I call "the minecraft state," where you just play and play and time doesn't exist anymore until it does and you're like... Oh shit, I work in 3 hours.

@seluhir8820

2 жыл бұрын

Psychologists call this state 'flow', btw. It's a very real thing.

@taronzgaming7739

2 жыл бұрын

@@seluhir8820 Factoriflow

@rajabuta

2 жыл бұрын

Oh shit. I shoulda been at work 3 hours ago more like

@MrGnuh

2 жыл бұрын

just....one....more....block... xD

What's great about grinding in FF14 is that a lot of it kills two birds with one stone. You can go through Bozja to experience fun large-scale combat, a nice story, three great raids, etc. But that's not even the end of it (though what I listed are already great reasons to experience Bozja). When you get an alt job to lvl 70, you can use it to easily level up to 80. AND THAT'S NOT ALL. Whilst doing that you still get more lockboxes and the like to get more sweet items and mounts and such. A lot of what you do in the game helps you out in the long run, even if you don't know it at the time.

@Lordoftheapes79

2 жыл бұрын

You can enter Bozja at 71, not 70. There's probably a technical reason for it.

@Ower8x

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lordoftheapes79 Yes since lvl X0 is end of the previous expansion ... and x1 is the first lvl of a new one ... you have this previously as well .. certain HW things were accesible from 51 .. HoH is from 61 etc ...

@nunyabusiness6744

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 😂

The timing of this video is even funnier considering how much fun preach had crafting things for an hour in the firmament.

@Lordoftheapes79

2 жыл бұрын

Did he get to do any Fetes? I haven't seen it yet.

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

I love the firmament so much. It's a shame he missed Ishgardian Restoration, he would have loved it.

@CybersteelEx

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackgarPrime Doma restoration is kinda similar.

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

@@CybersteelEx You know what I would love? Garlemald Restoration

@GbrBy

2 жыл бұрын

@JackgarPrime we are probably getting Garlemald Restoration. If you do in full a pair of questlines that tie into each other starting from aether current quests, they mention rebuilding Garlemald

I do treasure maps literally every week. LITERALLY every week. They're so much fun.

@noblewolf8232

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a group doing that or just joining random party?

@seluhir8820

2 жыл бұрын

@@noblewolf8232 I have a group of friends that I do them with(and I stream it on twitch so I have occasional viewers to join or chat with too). But I've also done it with random parties too. That's how I made some of the friends I do them with regularly now, in fact.

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

My FC does regularly scheduled treasure map runs every week. It's lots of fun.

@seluhir8820

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackgarPrime ya a lot of FCs have stuff like that set up. Great fc activity. :)

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

@@seluhir8820 Yeah the game does have lots of ways for FCs/guilds to do stuff together besides just raiding, and I think that helps make the community stronger. My FC is not at all raiding focused. We're actually crafting focused, and stuff like treasure maps and guild housing are perfect group activities for us. Not everybody wants to do hard content, they just want to hang out. I happen to enjoy hard content, but stuff like treasure maps are still lots of fun.

Treasure map nights are always so much fun. And a nice way to earn some Gil during the night or after work!

@cindaflame

2 жыл бұрын

Good time to hang out with your FC, listen to music through the discord bot, and be chatting and getting to know each other.

When treasure maps were released, it was a wild ride. Yoshi and the devs went all in on the trolling. It was hilarious! The FC I was in burned through like 30 maps on the first day.

I would love if they did some sort of "casual pvp" games in the treasure maps areas. Something RNG based or turned based, some kind of contest with Mario Party-like minigames. I can imagine very cool moments with friends while doing these.

@HatMachine

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaron.Arcanum Exactly, but with that extra RNG element of... you don't even know it's gonna be a jump rope minigame until halfway through the boss fight when suddenly the music changes and the rope spawns and you're like "ok now this is happening"

@gateauxq4604

2 жыл бұрын

I think a tiny bit of the heat CBU3 gets for PVP not being ‘great’ is if they implemented something silly like this. Hell, Im a giant nerd and would live to do this with lvl 90 trusts because they programmed the AI so the Scions all react according to their characters’ traits. Hot tip-Y’Shtola always does every mechanic right. Imagine PVPing with Y’Shtola coming for you like that 😆

If you guys haven’t seen his vod for the first treasure map day, watch it. Its hilarious 😂. Actually one of the best FF streams the last month or so, MSQ included.

@seizerkb3225

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded, the directional gang wars, the birth of the zigzag gang, the chaos evolution, the no portal gang, it was just an amazing stream altogether.

@belld.s5276

2 жыл бұрын

@@seizerkb3225 no portal gang was just a menace 😂😂

@Squallcloud95

2 жыл бұрын

Thirded i'm currently watching the VOD rarely laughed so much! Right gang forever!

@rajabuta

2 жыл бұрын

I can't find it!

@Tobatcie

2 жыл бұрын

@@Galewalion the whole stream I was just smiling and thinking, “when did DougDoug’s chat get here?” The only thing missing was people telling Mike about their divorce

RIGHT GANG WHERE YOU AT?

I Request a nobbel/Preach crossover for Ocean Fishing! That would be AWESOME!!!

@Demonmack0

2 жыл бұрын

Nobbel visited Preach pre-ocean fishing today :D (or maybe it was post?) but they didnt do anything together.

Dude, Maps are like my favourite optional content. Saturday night with the FC, we hop into discord, crack a couple cold ones and shoot the shit until early in the morning running maps. It's so much goddamn fun and I mean you end up with anywhere from 200-600k Gil depending on how lucky we were.

I've never done treasure maps before but it was such a blast watching preach play through them. Team zig zag for life!

Preach has experienced 1% of the side content of the game and is already blown away. 14:05 20:50 look at the amount of FUN this man is having

Another positive to farming stuff in treasure maps is that all of the materials you can get in there can be put up on the marketboard. If you get stuff you don't need, you can sell it for a decent amount of money. If you don't get the thing you want, you could alternatively get it from the marketboard using the money that you've been getting from your runs. It never feels like you go into this and get absolutely nothing out of it. Edit: I should also mention that all of the stuff from treasure dungeons is for the most part cosmetic. Besides a little bit of materia or the tomestomes which you can get from numerous other activities, everything you get is not tied to player power progression so it's not something you ever feel like you need to do either.

I've been gathering in the Diadem for nearly two years now, I need help lol

Treasure maps have been my friend group's gil farming strat, simply because no matter what drops it probably sells, you get materia, you get flat gil, and it is so much fun it doesn't feel like a grind

Yoshi-p, thanks for being awesome :)) one of the last beacons of integrity in game development (aside from indie)

Hey Mike, another farming aspect I don't think you've touched on yet is retainers. You can actually assign them their own jobs/classes and send them out on ventures to bring back materials. So if you make one a botanist and you needed logs for a craft you can send them out to get them for you, as long as you have gathered that item once yourself, and the retainer is a high enough level and has appropriate gear. They can also do quick or long ventures where they get tons of exp and bring back a random item sometimes worth 500k+.

Possibly the best part: even if you're a friendless muppet, you can still find treasure maps while gathering, and sell them on the market for cash - not much compared to cracking it open for yourself, but you're not completely locked out.

@krysaltepsyr8134

2 жыл бұрын

At least on my world maps can sell for a decent amount, the ones people like to run can sell for like, 30-45k. Not as much compared to if you got lucky enough to go later into a dungeon or got the rare materials, but you're not guaranteed to get any of that. So sometimes it's not bad. And at the least you can open the single-player maps, or some of the lower 8-player maps if you have a higher level character (again, you can't do the dungeon, but you can get the base chest loot and sometimes that has neat stuff.)

Not getting the mat you want from maps is mitigated by all the mats being tradeable. If you don't get what you're looking for, you can sell your rewards and buy what you want off the market board.

you should do those maps on the first day when a new glam set releases. 1 single crafting material for these usually goes for 1 - 3 million gil, depending on the popularity of the glam. You can actually have very mixed feelings for your friends when they gamble for double and fail and you end up with 0 of these :D Its still a good system. Not something that I do often, but its an okay one.

I had good laughs watching. It is exactly the type of casual content these games need to have alongside raiding.

Just imagine if WoW did something like this with Archeology. Complete a find and get a map which you do with 4+ ppl.

@coheedbeast2113

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can unlock an instanced temple or tomb where you compete and play minigames to secure a certain artifact

@JackgarPrime

2 жыл бұрын

I think it would be a huge hit. Casual farming content that encourages no-stress guild cooperation getting you gold and cosmetics.

@Shiirow

2 жыл бұрын

I had hoped WoW would have a similar system to treasure maps when they released those godsforsaken islands in BFA. I was expecting some sort of tomb raiding exploration content... ended up just being more mob grinding. thats what I get for expecting Blizzard to think fun over profit, I disappointed myself by having expectations. I could think of so many things that could have been but then again its Blizzard modus operandi of "Wasted Potential" in play.

@harold926

2 жыл бұрын

it really shows they have just fully ignored their competition for too damn long, i wouldn't even be mad if blizzard simply copy pasted the whole treasure maps system, the same could also be said for a lot of other ff14 systems like scaled content making it always relevant and playable, the tomestone system which is actually a spin on the whole justice/valor currency they for some reason just axed even though it was universally praised and many other things. I don't want wow to be ff14 they are different types of games for a different audience BUT there are absolutely things that blizzard could simply copy paste into wow and the game would be better for it

its funny you made a video about this just a few days after i introduced my friend to the treasure maps. he has heard about them but never did them. it was just the 2 of us doing them & in one high level map we got to the final stage. unfortunately we lost that fight but it was super fun & we loved the challenge of trying to beat the instance with only 2 people

That Emet plate is gorgeous...

That map stream was absolutely amazing.

Already realized this during todays stream but something seems to be off with mikes mic. It sounds like its peaking but its actually not. I assume Mike is using some kind of mixer and the settings there changed? or the driver is failing? i dont know but the voiceover during the treasure dungeon clip is fine. so whatever changed was very recently.

my raid team would do maps after we were done for the night, wonderful way to make some Gil, get tomes/mats/consumes/minions/glam etc and decompress after savage

@DantoriusD

2 жыл бұрын

Yea we do the same after our reclears

I've had a hundred hours while doing maps with my friends, with a few drinks, and we had a blast doing maps constantly, it's waaaay too much fun to pass up.

Our FC has Gold Saucer Night into the Saturday Cacpot Drawing. Also a Map Night. Features like these Give Guilds something to do together and Bring your friends together just for Fun and not necessarily progression.

I adore treasure maps and just started doing them in endwalker, I've been playing since 2.0. I couldn't believe I had never done them before, and how fun they were!

When I do maps my group just do it for the sake of it and don't even go for the rewards, all buy a bunch of maps each and everyone just needs. Just go for the fun and relaxing time.

Gather levequests also break up a lot of the monotony. Firmament/diadem makes leveling botanist and miner faster, and then there is the fishing boat in limsa that leaves every 2 hours and makes leveling fishing SO fast.

I love crafting in FFXIV. I do crafting in almost every MMO I go into. I heal, DPS, and gather/craft. Heal and DPS tends to be interchangeable depending on my day. Gathering will take you places you might not have seen while doing the MSQ. Crafting...it is like a mini game in itself. Though, it sometimes gets annoying. I have yet to do any treasure map dungeons. Especially the Zonure Maps. (Really want to craft a set of Calf Skin clothes for myself and my husband.) Also, haven't found a group that I could go through the Alliance Trials to get boz unlocked.

A couple of notes: The higher lower game doesn't double your outcome everytime, it gives you an additional 1x the original prize pool. You can't use tomestones for your alts, unless you pick up mats for crafted gear. Tomestones are bound to the character

@TheChunkeyNinja

2 жыл бұрын

When he's talking about alts he's referring to the alt jobs on 1 character - since in games like WoW you have to make an entirely new character to play another class.

@camzoman

2 жыл бұрын

Mike comes from WoW, where you can't change class without levelling a new alt. I think he considers different jobs to be Alts which you can play on one main character.

Your point about "different optional systems with varying rewards" is still relevant for crafting and gathering. There is The Firmament, Ocean Fishing, Fieldcraft Leves, Collectables, Retainers with gathering jobs, and Grand Company Supply & Provision missions. I've leveled several of my professions very slowly by buying cheap gathering mats and crafted gear off the market board and turning them into the GC once a day. I can even ask my friends to help me get HQ versions of the crafted gear if the mats on the market are much cheaper than the finished goods. More social interaction and choices.

Great video, Preach! Love your content! ❤️

What Mike does not mention, but maybe he didn't have luck yet, you can get glam, fashion accessories, minions, music rolls, decorations drops from the chests. Last time we did 2hours map run we got 2,8mil gil worth of those items alone as a group without counting crystals, gil, mats, materia etc.

Also, you can do mapping dungeons with fewer than 8 people. They're totally doable with 4 or even 3, although 5 offers a lot more breathing room. The fact you can do this with a variably-sized party only adds to the appeal if you can't get exactly 8 people.

Just wanted to say thank you for this video, Preach. Thanks to this, I bothered to level up my Miner job to 90 and I’ve gotten involved in my first treasure hunting party. 4 of us brought 3 maps each and we made so much gil. Not to mention selling all the materials I’ve gained by mining at max level has also made me so much more gil. It’s fun and engaging, and I’m no longer panicking about fast travel costs 😂

Reminded me a bit about the Destiny 1 Chaperone questline where you're asked to farm crucible renown with The Last Word and dying meant losing renown

ngl, loving the hair Mike. Good stuff. Probably the best bit like you said is that its not really hardcore, so people can tend to play whatever they are in the mood for which is freeing for a lot of people that maybe want to try a different playstyle or test out some gear they got for another job etc. Very new player friendly as well without entry restrictions.

The door boss in this dungeon is so hard. I only have a 50% success rate on clearing it.

Treasure maps are perfect for a night of drinks and bants with a bunch of friends. Personally I've never done them for the random materials, while it's nice that you do get them, they're not what you're there for, because you can always go and gather them whenever you want. It's the new rare drops, emotes, housing items, rare glam materials, that you can only get in maps that draw people in.

a huge benefit of the treasure maps is also the matts you get for current cosmetics, especially in the first week of release frontier dress? 7mil each for a few day on its release on my server, its a nice bonus for money hoarders and game canging for people who dont spend their life energy crafting all day and all night.

for leveling gatherer's fast- try Diadem in the firmament. Its better exp and you get a cannon to play with. Gathering leve quests and collectables work well too. You can also buy survival manuals at your GC or with scrips to boost exp gain during any of these activities.

@blizzfreak

2 жыл бұрын

He started Diadem this morning, as a matter of fact.

@Maria_Erias

2 жыл бұрын

To me, gathering classes are always my "I want to play FF, but I don't really want to do anything" option. Then I can just groove for a bit, turn off in-game sound, queue up my Primals soundtrack on KZread, and hit things with an axe for an hour or two. There's no competition, no headache, and if you play the market and know what's going to sell, an easy way to make 100-200k or so.

@Zendelxex

2 жыл бұрын

Cannon? You mean our aetheric bazooka? XD

@rossker123

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zendelxex I mean YES, just like couldn't remember what it was called. I just remembered "haha big lazer gun"

@Zendelxex

2 жыл бұрын

@@rossker123 best thing ever. Before stat squish that bazooka was dealinh 4mil dmg. Wish they allow us to take it out of the diadem and into the open world

I had one run with the lvl 80 maps where we made it to the last boss... and every single door was a rainbow rescue. It was weird haha.

I didn't even know this was something I wanted to do, but I do now! I need to get into this, it looks like tons of fun

Grinding can absolutely be made fun. Path of Exile is an excellent example for me for this. Path of Exile(PoE) is a very grindy game The endgame in path when boiled down and translated to wow terms is running a handful of dungeons over and over again. In Wow, running 300 SFK in a day may sound boring but every PoE map(what PoE calls the end game) is different in a small way. The monsters you kill may be different, one time it might be murlocs, another it may be dragonkins. Also old league(seasons, kinda like M+ affixes) features may appear which have a chance to giving you something cool and out of the ordinary. Not to mention that every mob you kill have a chance of giving you currency/items that allow you to change and craft items. Everything in the game revolves around making and perfecting your gear for your build.

22:36 - Said noone ever in our FC. Usually one person yells "MAAAAPS!" other people start saying "MAAAAPS!" like a herd of zombies. and in a short moment you have 8 people buying maps and getting ready to have some fun.

i did enjoy doing treasure maps, but i joined a free company and still it was damn difficult to get people together to actually do them

@Lordoftheapes79

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the time of day, but I'll generally get as many friends together as I can, then PF a few more spots. You don't need 8 people for it. As long as you have a tank and a healer, they're pretty safe. 3 is doable, 5+ is comfortable.

@RhoneM

2 жыл бұрын

There are discords dedicated to map groups in the same fashion as hunt discords.

I can understand how Preach would miss this, but the main purpose of grinding the maps is to obtain map-specific drops. The gil and general crafting materials generally don't equal the map value and time investment - though this obviously varies by server. From the perspective of someone solo-grinding out a glamour, it is an 18hr cooldown with RNG on RNG, on a generally low drop chance. However the fact I simply haven't sold the maps and bought the glamour material, indicates that ultimately it is an enjoyable grind. I do like doing the maps, however the heavensward ones were my favorite - with the dungeons being rather easier to solo.

7:40 Preach getting his mind blown

Maps are my favorite content by far. I love how the excitement you had at the final door is at the same level I still have after having over 50 final rooms in my lifetime. There is also titles for all map zones for getting 20 final rooms and some for just getting 20 portals like "Of the hype train" for Disneyland (90 maps) I do a 4 hour map event every sunday where we do 60,70,80,90 maps and I help people make gil by making it FFA rolls and I provide the maps. If we get a final room I give everyone 50k. Its not a ton but it makes a exciting content even more exciting as well as it making bad rolls not feel as bad. We did 32 maps and got 21 portals with 4 final rooms. Was nutty RNG. The more I watch your content to more I love it. Seeing your energy with the contnet reminds me of when I did things for the first time but it also helps me realize after all this time that level of excitement for myself hasnt dropped off much.

If you haven't done ocean fishing yet I just leveled up my fisher completely that way and it was so much fun!

@rtbear674

2 жыл бұрын

I'd probably begrudgingly leveling my fisher if there was no ocean fishing. with the ocean fishing now I enjoy doing fishing time to time, not only in the ocean

Had a great time watching the stream live!

I really like the map dungeons because they're an excellent way to earn gil if you just accrue a few maps in the week and do a map party every once in a while. Even if you don't earn much off the dungeons themselves, the mats that drop (rare ones especially) can sell for a lot of gil if they craft into a nice glam item or the bed mount

You can find the front door to the Stormblood portal maps in Radz-at-Han. Seems a rich family there is fully endorsing adventurers raiding their vault for fun.

My FC has a whole ritual where everyone just grabs a beer and talk about their day and just chill during treasure maps☺️.

Treasure maps remind me of a group version of the Trove of the Thunder King still....and I adore it.

Treasure maps are, to me, the most fun casual content in the game. It's all lighthearted and easy enough that my friends and I can just have a great time on voice and maybe walk away with some items to craft cool glamour gear.

When the gatherer (fisher, botanist or miner) is high enough, one can gather treasure maps that range from doable by a single player (moreso if max level) to the EW excitatron. Currently, I'm working on meeting the challenge log/achievement log to gather and run enough of each type of map (e.g., leather, goatskin, toadskin etc ). I can only gather one a day, so it's a little slow going; however, I'm not in a rush to complete.

Really hope that Preach decides to try out other MMOs as well. It's always fascinating seeing the way people who focused on single MMOs for years (Whether it's WoW or Runescape or whatever) don't realize how other games solve these various issues. No single game solves them all, but they all try, so if you don't like one thing, you can find something better elsewhere. The fact MMO players only usual invest their time in to a single game allows the genre to stagnate because so few people realize the grass is greener elsewhere. Games like Guild Wars 2 or Albion Online do so many cool things that WoW and even FFXIV could learn from, but change is so excruciatingly slow.

Mike failed to mention that the materials you get are either relatively common materials or are rare stuff that's used to make cosmetic crafts, so it's not even that you need to do this to make gear because materials for gear are get from other sources, and even if you don't have crafters to use them yourself the rare ones sells for a lot in the market. Also I cringe when Mike says SE does this or that, because Square is a scum company, wanting to get into NFT, live services and every other bullshit under the sun. When it comes to XIV we should be giving credit to Creative Business Unit 3 who are the MMO team in SE.

@steweygrrr

2 жыл бұрын

Aye, CBU3 seems to be the only competent section of Squeenix. A large proportion of everything else they release that isn't remake/remaster seems to be either dead on arrival or abandoned not long after release. I'm still salty about them killing Front Mission with Left Alive that they _knew_ was a stinking turd and still released, screwed over the poor buggers who preordered and promptly abandoned.

@seluhir8820

2 жыл бұрын

Just gonna say... every company is scum. Every large business in the world is equally scum. They all are. Welcome to capitalism. The companies that don't appear to be scum are the ones too smart to get caught being scum.

Wonder if he'll hit up Palace of the Dead or Heaven on High. That was a neat exp boost/ez weapon upgrade route for people when they were first added.

treasure maps is literally what kept me subbed to the game. Is just so fun to do and usually is so rewarding :)

My FC does map nights and it's so popular we have 4 to 5 full groups running maps it's great.

One of the things my friends and I do sometimes with treasure map is instead of teleporting and flying, we just drive down the road from area to area and do some chill roadtrip. We then put on roadtrip music on discord that we could listen while we drive down to the location.

FF14 is the one game I will never mind paying a Sub for. I can take breaks and come back, pay my $10 and I have a shit ton of new content if I wait for updates, and even when I don't there is so much shit to do for fun that the $10 feels like a fee to enter an amusement park for a month or something like that.

Funny thing about FF14 is that there is/was that traditional grinding way for ARR items that were rare spawns, you kind of tune out with that. The Treasure maps are a much better system. As it comes to gathering/crafting the system gets much, much more complex as you get higher level if you want to optimize your rewards so it's not just press button and watch the bar fill up, especially if you want High Quality items as using your skill correctly is very important, even if they did make a bit easier it's still not "press button and turn of your brain".

Maps are a great system. I am in a group that raids Savage 2 to 3 times a week. If we have a night where we are short a person we run maps. They are a great way to earn Gil for raid food and potions. On a side note we line up and do the Mandeville Dance before we open a door as a Goodluck charm!

The second time I got to the final chamber, all the doors were fake outs. Went to balck and everything. It was the most insane thing

This is definitely the first thing I'm gonna do after I resub for the patch content god damn

It's cool to see people having a blast over this Personally I'm very apathetic towards it since I only do it for the gil, and I get more than enough to get by in the game consistently so I don't really care much about what is happening on screen, but for those who are paying attention and are having a good time I'm glad

"I can't play, I have to go fishing"... I somehow imagine when he gets to fishing, and ocean fishing... he will say that again XD "Sorry, I can't raid, it is the right weather and I got my lucky hat and I am already trying the second mooch"

Yuup. Definetly agree with the Autonomous aspect of BC classic farming ( Farming in general ) ~ "Definition of insanity is doing it over and over again, without end." - *Albert Einstein*

Truly is it not a FFXIV video without a naked catboy.

Someone show him Oceanic Fishing (and spear fishing).

@nyminenemine

2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE the revamp to spear fishing! The mini game is so fun! It's my go to destressor now.

Seeing the tension and disappointment in your face melt away into absolute JOY when that rainbow happened to unlock that final door was such a great moment. It is really nice how spoiled we get on so much little silly "time-wastey" content like Maps and Ocean Fishing. The devs really know how to make folks want to while away their time inside the world of Etheirys in small ways that don't feel overly tedious.

I will say as someone who has been doing this since inception. We usually do this during movie night, because it really hasn't changed since Stormblood.

Yeah, but... doing the mindless grind *occasionally* can be very relaxing. I just don't do it hours at a time and most often in an MMO I haven't played in a while so the grind is not needed for some end game thing. Otherwisee the grind is a job. Something you MUST do. Some people like to do colouring for adults, get lost in a TikTok watch list, work in the garden, whatever. I like to grind in random mmo's and get no reward whatsoever from it apart from a chill afternoon. Which is massive

Great video and insights!

It's kinda funny, because a lot of these kinds of activities existed in FFXI as well, long before wow was even released. BCNM, garrison and even Eco Warrior. You'd find a random drop that starts a wave-defense event somewhere, that you can do with your friends. Or use beastmen seals that dropped relatively commonly from at-level mobs to exchange for an item that lets you and your friends enter a challenge arena with the potential for drops that could be sold for half a million gil sometimes. Maybe it's just me, but this kind of content might just be in the DNA of final fantasy as a franchise. Cause ffix had "chocobo hot and cold" and tetra master, ffx had blitzball, ffviii had triple triad and stuff. So many interesting avenues to find good gear in the single player games.

I knew about treasure maps and the rewards trying to get 8 maps together though is the hard part for some easier then others i usually just sell them you could usually make a group faster in pf then trying to get your FC together.. I'm glad they boosted the portals now a lot of the times we didnt get one which sucks and made the effort kinda worthless..

Has anyone told preach about the isgard restoration gathering mega zone, and the crafting fates?

Treasure maps is my favourite casual stuff I really like to do with my friends 🥰 we usually go in for the glam, the others are extra 😀

The ring is kinda balanced with the gil you get there so you can just buy whatever you are aiming for from the marketboard anyway since everything there can be sold and traded. I wish I could do more treasure maps but not enough people to run them with.

ive never hated grinding, 1 of my best-nostalgia games is very grindy, Hero Online(hero plus, 2004 mmorpg), come home from school, get 5 bars of exp, try not to die to lose your exp, wake up early grind 1 bar of exp before school, it's all a part of immersion