I used to work at Mcdonalds and this whole time i had no idea i already was living the "American Dream".

@bryantony9836

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha...

@vorrdegard2176

3 жыл бұрын

LAMO

@elpatron7916

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you not point out that you made more than minimum wage?

@jonathansoko5368

2 жыл бұрын

I respect mcdonald's workers more than I respect influencers or youtubers. Why? Because you get up every day and go out in the real world.

@justpeachy6450

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathansoko5368 Ironically posted to youtube lol

The thing with MLMs is that they're not selling a business, they're selling a dream to desperate people.

@nuhhassan8557

3 жыл бұрын

exactly

@robinsoto2700

3 жыл бұрын

It's weird how they praise their products but don't really aim to sell them directly to consumers.

@ashishpatel350

3 жыл бұрын

sounds alot like christianity .

@robinsoto2700

3 жыл бұрын

@techno vikernes are you happy now

@alfredojami3176

3 жыл бұрын

Can i copy that?

*Pro tip:* if someone is always showing you their fancy sports car, big expensive house, flashing jewelry, name dropping, showing how much money they have all from their business…but they never show you the product or barely talk about the product… Chances are very high that they’re full of sheet or doing something scummy.

@kylewatson5133

Ай бұрын

I love the dateline episode of the dude who scams some guy out of 2 million dollars claiming he's an offshore investor to put into a boat so that he could take photographs of how successful he is in order to scam more people out of money. He ended up having to kill the investor when he was confronted and spent the rest of his life in jail. Good times.

OMG, so many years of being a PBD and Valuetainment fan, and this is the first time when I look at PBD's business, namely the PHP agency, from a different angle. So many scammers hide in plain sight.

@ENT8801

8 ай бұрын

How did you not see this when watching his channel? Right now he is trying to sell you right wing chuds ideology. There's a video of Pat when he was running his company years ago and he says * find a market that has people passionate or angy on one side and market to them. It works better if they're a little dumb* seriously that's the right wing of today

@steverogers7601

3 ай бұрын

I’m in my 40s and I’m glad my life experiences have served me well to have never even become a fan of PBD. You can just smell the nonsense from the look of him. He’s always name dropping, flashing his fancy cars, clout chasing, how much he makes, etc. that should tell you something. And yes, people judge books by their covers all the time but many don’t like saying it or admitting it.

@elonfux2492

2 ай бұрын

Once you learn this, you cant look at the man the same again. It’s all a con

@Davido50

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely truth! I agree. Never watch the podcast again. Ever.

@vallangaard

8 күн бұрын

I am so pissed. I find a guy like PBD that seems legit...But no. No no no. He's just another con artist making a human staircase to climb to the 1% Im just done....with everything.

MLM always reminds me of a high school reunion. Old friends happy to see me and want to know how I'm doing and then i say tough times and they have a "great business opportunity" for me lol

@InfectedChris

3 жыл бұрын

I dodged having to go to one last year...

@Seadre

3 жыл бұрын

hey ninja black konosuba you are right

@FacuSabo22

3 жыл бұрын

@@InfectedChris i was part of Amway during 7 days, i realized how ridiculous the business model was when i went to one of these "mind blowing" gurus talking about their success. Everyone in the room was applauding a random man on stretched jeans bragging how he made 390 dolars a month thanks to this revolutionary business model.

@_thechosen

3 жыл бұрын

@@FacuSabo22 First paycheck always deserves applause.

@weebgrinder

3 жыл бұрын

My old lawyer used to push this stuff on his clients lol. Needless to say he's been indefinitely suspended.

So I got suckered into Amway right out of college. Luckily I was legit refunded the $200 I “invested” when I got out. What really made me realize it was something I didn’t want a part of (aside from being MLM) was when we had some big time Amway guy come talk to us at a meeting we had (about 200 people) and he bragged that he didn’t go see his family the day his mother died because he had to give a speech at the yearly meeting (10s of thousands of people attend) for Amway the next day. He said, “there was no reason I should leave and fly to my family, there was nothing I could do, she was already dead so what was me being there going to do?” And everyone freaking clapped. I got up and walked out, what a sick sick person.

@truththatlies

2 жыл бұрын

If somebody says that abiut their mother, good call, walk out! No respect (or total lies on that guys part)!

@felsal20

2 жыл бұрын

That “story” of a dead relative is often copied by many of those ppl. I’ve heard that too.

@poplikid3306

2 жыл бұрын

@@felsal20 yeah i was thinking that's more or less the same story austin godsey tells. These con artists can't even make up an original story

@MrMannyBoss

2 жыл бұрын

Arnold (the ex bodybuilder) says a similar things in a documentary

@Rakinjo2

2 жыл бұрын

Well, that's the kind of extreme work ethic that's been built over generations in the US. It's not even about the reward or the goals; just people worshiping the very concept of working rather than doing anything else.

This Patrick guy has always given me the creeps… scammer vibes.

Best explanation of how a MLM scheme operates is to have a company convince you to go into business opening a shoe store to sell shoes ( but ONLY their shoes) and then convincing you that you can make even more money by convincing other people to open competing shoe stores.

@WilliamsLovesToLearn

11 ай бұрын

very clever and nicely said lol

@zodglubby

2 ай бұрын

Very good analogy

@precisionsoundworksstudio

2 ай бұрын

Cue Crip walk with Ain't Nothing But a G Thang music...

@carltonmiller6701

Ай бұрын

Darn. That's the thing. If in life we could just breakdown complex scenarios into 1 to 3 sentences ppl would make better decisions

I love the idea of escaping from the trap of a 9-5 to the steel bars of a 9-9

@sonnyandreotte5721

3 жыл бұрын

tip o the hat good sir, you recieve one internet on me.

@robbieg6036

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@bukhosidlamini3154

3 жыл бұрын

Choked on my drink🤣

@king489

3 жыл бұрын

People ho works from 9 to 5 keep the society stable...

@Richard_Nickerson

3 жыл бұрын

@@king489 Yup. You misread this comment.

The channel Valuetainment has a lot of useful insights however I was shocked to find out he was running an MLM, very disappointing.

@superandreanintendo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. 4-5 years ago he was doing quite decent content for entrepreneurs target, but it seems like he went too for the courses cash cow

@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. His most basic videos are good, but then he went on a tangent and you can see he was going cuckooo

@themostsecretscience6409

3 жыл бұрын

I also just found this out. Haven't watched Patrick lately but he kept those 2 words separate for a long time.

@jordan.h6821

3 жыл бұрын

@@themostsecretscience6409 Patrick still offers alot of value from stuff he says

@yfs9035

3 жыл бұрын

He always came off like he's ready to sell you something. You know how those type of people are, Cocaine energy won't even let you ask questions before you buy.

Literally showed this video to my friend to save him from getting sucked into PHP. You’re the best coffee

The funniest thing about this video was the MLM advert Google served me before it started. Glorious.

It's interesting that Bet David's MLM company is PHP. In Indonesia, PHP is acronym of Pemberi Harapan Palsu or Giving False Hope.

@TheBinaryHappiness

2 жыл бұрын

has a masonic vibe to it

@revimfadli4666

2 жыл бұрын

Also his name is Bet

@phillipborbon2059

2 жыл бұрын

I never liked that guy

@damienholland9432

2 жыл бұрын

@@phillipborbon2059 Me neither. He always rubs me the wrong way. But people like him.

@jacobhirschfeld

Жыл бұрын

PHP is also the name of a drug

There I was, thinking that PHP was a programming language.

@rituparnadesai3665

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you man.

@mruncletheredge

2 жыл бұрын

It is programming... Programming to sell $200 fees so that the guys and gals at the top of the pyramid live well....

@hirecoolnerds3765

2 жыл бұрын

I am a web developer so I can relate your pain LMAO XD

@relativelytired

2 жыл бұрын

always knew PHP was evil

@joehernandez3269

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

An older man who'd been a friend of my family my whole life got caught up in one of these MLM "opportunities." He'd spent thousands of dollars he honestly couldn't afford and tried to get me to join up. I meant no disrespect...this man had helped my family when we needed it and I'll never forget that...but I just asked, "Mr. William, how much money have you made doing this?" He couldn't answer. It was like a lot of guilt and shame came over him and he ended our "meeting." My father told me that Mr. William had made lots of terrible financial choices, trying to chase this dream.

I actually attended that event they use in a lot of their promo videos. The one with Kobe and Jordan Peterson. Immediately recognized that it was a big MLM which was disappointing

The saddest parts about MLMs is watching the people that shill them try to defend them

@elenagisa1318

3 жыл бұрын

spot on, when I figured out that Herbalife is just a MLM and left, I got so much hate from the ones that staid in that business.

@codybarlik4524

3 жыл бұрын

@@elenagisa1318 I almost dated a girl that got really huge into Herbalife! It’s really scary how culty it gets! Good on you for getting out of it

@elenagisa1318

3 жыл бұрын

@@codybarlik4524 there are allegation related to deaths and colon cancer when it comes to their-healthy- products, that was my main reason for leaving. I would never sell poison to people.

@ladytee4269

3 жыл бұрын

😪😪😪

@tklyte

3 жыл бұрын

The same goes for religions and cults. It's all about indoctrination.

Always suspicious when "successful" companies/individuals show off everything like money, famous people, etc but not their product. If it worked so well it would be the center of attention, like it is with legitimate companies

@asultansdemise

Жыл бұрын

Funny cause that's a business mind not what MLM purports it to be

@tedcrilly46

Жыл бұрын

any time there's some kind of party or whooping involved ... probably a scam. any time theres a Lamborghini involved ... definitely a scam.

@Sparflight

Жыл бұрын

​@@tedcrilly46 😐Well...that alone doesn't determine whether it's a scam or not. You have look at everything as a whole.

@Sparflight

Жыл бұрын

🤨 Are not the rich doing that? Yet they don't get ridiculed like this smh.

@magentafox1657

11 ай бұрын

They can't show the product because the product is you.

The worst is they target college students like crazy now. Because back when I was there years ago, they knew a lot of us were still naïve about the working world. I really hope colleges someday ban MLMs from stepping foot on campuses and if anything just put out more warnings to students to avoid them. Two old buddies of mine were almost tricked into it.

Now we know how Patrick was able to afford his $25M Florida mansion.

There’s a PHP boss where I live that’s drives a lambo and rolls and talks about how he’s an entrepreneur that did it all himself. A guy from his office leaked that everything he has is leased by PHP.

@karennyeley1063

3 жыл бұрын

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Yup. I know his name. Ricardo Aguilar Fuentes. He's on fb.

@titonothere6179

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh, when your car payments are 5x more than your house payment. You’re doing shit ass backwards just to impress ppl.

@karennyeley1063

3 жыл бұрын

@@titonothere6179, but that's how they attract people into theor pyramid shceme. To them, it's an investment

@Alex-vk7qg

3 жыл бұрын

Omg 😆 Where can I find this video? They tried to recruit me, I have my own insurance agency that makes 7 figures the few agents that I have make 6 figures +..... well guess what they said, what you are doing is great but if you really want to do it big you need to join PHP 😆

@Alex-vk7qg

3 жыл бұрын

Can you Owen P or Karen Nyeley get me this video or in contact with the guy who leaked it?

MCDONALDS : 200.000 EMPLOYEES $20 BILLION REVENUES 37.000+ BUILDINGS OWNED

@stianchrister

3 жыл бұрын

BWRRRRAAAAAAHHH.

@justicewarrior9187

3 жыл бұрын

McDonald's doesn't employ anyone Their business is actually real estate

@steppenfuchs5608

3 жыл бұрын

@@justicewarrior9187 you watched that food theory vid?

@ThePmiller32

3 жыл бұрын

@@justicewarrior9187 big facts

@SkylerSeiben

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what video that is but ill watch it. I always thought McDonald's was just a chain. People buy locations and they employ their own employees.

Used to work good retail in a high-volume Karen area. Work was sticky, messy, and borderline abusive at times. Occasionally in our eating area we’d see someone break out their MLM briefcase full of (essential oils/makeup/kitchen gadgets) to pitch to someone they clearly arranged to meet with here. No matter how bad it got at work, at least it wasn’t so bad I was in an MLM.

@jenns6063

8 ай бұрын

"Karen" is a racist word, dude.

@Tara-ty1mg

4 ай бұрын

Look at all these lying Chads and Roberts scamming people

@beckyheinz7337

Ай бұрын

​@@jenns6063It's not racist, derogatory maybe, to whomever chooses to take offense. Karen is a name, a description, and that is not what defines racism.

Many many years ago I got suckered into an MLM recruiting event. It was full of immigrants and the presenter spent like 20 minutes talking about her house by the water and had a slide show showing aerial views of it. And I kept thinking what does any of this have to do with the product they are selling. I left mid way but what I didn’t realize then was that was the product. They were selling the American dream to all these people, the idea that everyone could have a house by the lake or ocean

@chinaarlene7035

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I used to work for an MLM for 6 weeks. It was the worst scummiest job I ever had. I made about $300 a week. I love watching these videos since it makes me feel validated in my decisions to get out when I did

@luisguzman-bc1mk

3 жыл бұрын

Shoot, you at least made give or take about $900/month, that's honestly ALOT better than the vast majority of people who join MLMs, most make severely under even minimum wage

@robbylebotha

3 жыл бұрын

This comment somehow looks like a hidden ad 🤔

@kyleplotsky1726

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbylebotha hell no dude. I would love to take time machine go back to before I started and slap the ever loving hell out of myself! Hahaha

@kyleplotsky1726

3 жыл бұрын

@@luisguzman-bc1mk I guess, but living in the Chicagoland area I would've been better off working st McDonalds as the Great Coffee himself says haha

@thegoodwin

3 жыл бұрын

+Kyle, it's a good to hear you left that crappy MLM job.

It sucks how they can actually harm people since there's a psychological aspect to it as well. There's so much toxic positivity, brainwashing, and guilt tripping involved when you are in one. There's so many people that also lost thousands of dollars. It's so sad

@theforce5191

3 жыл бұрын

Php isn't promising to get u rich though..

@angefabricenda560

2 жыл бұрын

@@theforce5191 but PHP is promising you an unrealistic dream

@theforce5191

2 жыл бұрын

@@angefabricenda560 which is?

@thisgame2

2 жыл бұрын

Toxic positivity works so well w scams

@TheWoodenshark

2 жыл бұрын

@@theforce5191 That you, an average person can make money from an unsustainable business model when in fact MLMs don't rely on successful products, they rely on a steady stream of suckers who pump the numbers of those above them by buying into the scheme, investing and losing money on average. According to FTC study that looked at 350 MLM companies 99% of participants in them lose money. It's not a personal problem or a particular company problem or even a product problem. It's a business model problem, it doesn't work. It just doesn't work. It looks like it works because those who started at the top get rich and say you will too (you won't).

Well done, Coffeezilla and great inclusion of PBD cuz he seems to fly under most people's radars

PBD involved in a scam? Shocker.

"Do you have enough to support your family?" So they're asking struggling people to sign up for a program that they know will hurt them. Why can't we throw these people in prison?

@IncredibleMet

2 жыл бұрын

Because this robbery does not use a gun.

@lukycharms9970

2 жыл бұрын

If you think this is bad look into the people that use this same scheme against terminally ill people with chronic incurable diseases. Ya know, cause there’s no more effective emotion to capitalize on than peoples’ fear of dying and their immeasurable desperation to stay alive. There is a very special place in hell people like that.

@Grubiantoll

2 жыл бұрын

Panzy scheme is always evolving to escape the harsh hammer of the law, kinda like it is with viruses

@NS-sm7dr

2 жыл бұрын

Quitted wfg today, and they asked me the same question before I made it clear I was no longer interested

@Tim_Shu

Жыл бұрын

Very true

It’s hilarious how Patrick bet David refers to his MLM as a Financial services company😂

@therearenoshortcuts9868

3 жыл бұрын

soon: mafia = private security company

@luisguzman-bc1mk

3 жыл бұрын

Every Insurance MLM labels themselves as "Financial Services"

@SU-ws5vz

3 жыл бұрын

@@therearenoshortcuts9868 😂😂😂😂

@therearenoshortcuts9868

3 жыл бұрын

@@SU-ws5vz Drug Dealer = Xtreme Pharmacy :)

@CAxALLDAY

3 жыл бұрын

@@therearenoshortcuts9868 hey hey dont disrespect drug dealers and mafia, they more ethical than MLMs

A friend dragged me to an Amway meeting many years ago. She was sort of beholden to attend, because it was a family member hosting, and she talked me into going just to keep her company. I'm actually glad I went, because it was comedy gold. This meeting was held in NYC, and the guy speaking - the hard sell guy - was bragging about all the travel that being his own boss was affording him. he literally bragged about just having returned from a trip to Cleveland. No offense to people from Cleveland, but someone who lives in NYC thinking that a trip to Ohio is flex-worthy is hilarious.

@TPRM1

6 ай бұрын

If it sounds too good to be true it usually is. And if it sounds _meh,_ it usually is.

@rustyshackelford3371

6 ай бұрын

12-year-old me is impressed. I remember flying into Cleveland by myself with an upgrade to first class at that age. I thought I was living large.

I think one of the main problems is that people can’t seem to recognize the difference between “making money” and “taking money”.

@samuraijack0876

8 ай бұрын

Well put. 💯

I hate how people in mlms say they are “business owners” ... like wtf? and to make it worse, someone I knew that was in an mlm always posted on Instagram telling us to “support her small/local business”

@damienholland9432

2 жыл бұрын

Another popular scam right now is someone trying to hook you up with a financial advisor regarding cryptocurrency.

Real Business = You sell a Product/Service and you hire people to help with that. MLM = You hire a bunch of people who have to hire a bunch of people who have to hire a bunch of people....(infinity). And everyone PAYS to play.

@downundarob

2 жыл бұрын

umm, no...

@westernbrumby

Жыл бұрын

Umm, yes...

@suzinaccache

Жыл бұрын

They recruit any one with a pulse

@suzinaccache

Жыл бұрын

​@@downundarob yessss

@downundarob

Жыл бұрын

@@suzinaccache wow a comment from a year ago, but still no, you dont hire anyone in mlm.

The one thing that kept me away from IML is literally not having enough money lmao. Being broke is really the real protection

@applecatnyango

17 күн бұрын

Sometimes MLM recruiters are so desperate that they'd lend money to their targets to make sure they join and recruit other targets

When we're young, naive, disillusioned or desperate we're more susceptible to these pitches, even respected universities are more-or-less using these tactics. When I was young a guy at work got me to go to a bunch of World Financial Group meetings. It was one thing to waste a number of my summer evenings, it was another thing to phone and email my friends (without my permission or knowledge). How embarrassing🤦🏼.

@kaptinbarfbeerd1317

Жыл бұрын

Been there too, just gonna take the lessons from it and move on.

I recall a few years back when I was going through some issues ... there was someone in the mental health unit of our local hospital, committed as a patient long term, who was recruiting other patients to join People Helping People for his brother. Most of the time you go in there for a few days or a week, so very high patient turnover. This dude was in there like "Hey bro my brother can help you make tons of money and set you up with a business. We can help you!" He wouldn't leave me and others alone. It was awful. At the lowest rock bottom spot in life, getting pitched MLMs aggressively

@nawfsidereviews6029

3 жыл бұрын

😆😆 damn that hell.

@elsevos4180

3 жыл бұрын

You should have told the staff. In my country clients sign a contract upfront not to gamble, no participating in a criminal act etc. We also have ex mlm clients suffer emotional, financial and social difficulties. I am really sorry to hear the staff didn't protect you from the mlm brainwash.

@Kurio71

3 жыл бұрын

WOW, that’s scumbag level

@theresekatie4841

3 жыл бұрын

Did you at least feel better you weren't dumb enough to join?

@wforbes87

3 жыл бұрын

@@theresekatie4841 lol yes totally. I was really into the idea of going to a meet up to spy on how messed up it is, like my own live coffeezilla episode... but they gave me the wrong address 🙄

Patrick Bet David is all talk about being an entrepreneur and this or that while in reality he’s just selling MLM to people. So sad how evil people can be sometimes.

@same.7939

Жыл бұрын

No surprises. To me everything about him screams scam. Starting from his name. What type of person with middle eastern parents and born in Iran calls himself “Patrick Bet David”? Also, his earlier Valuetainment content was motivational, like “How to Have a Millionaire mindset”. Vague BS like that from people who have nothing substantial to sell.

When I was about 15, my older sister and her partner were trying to tell our family about a business proposal they had heard of from a friend. They said that all they had to do was sell some energy drink but that the main focus was to recruit two people each because that was how they would make their money. Then those people would recruit more people and the more people recruited the more money they would make. I told them it was a scam. Because it clearly was. But they argued with me saying that either I didn’t have the vision to succeed or that I was just hating. I gave them an example of a warehouse. I told them, “if your job is just to recruit people in a warehouse, what’s going to happen in the warehouse? What is the purpose of the people already in the warehouse?” They said to recruit more people. I said “do to what??” They didn’t get it until about a month in. They paid a $200 sign up fee which they never got back.

@WilliamsLovesToLearn

11 ай бұрын

you are very smart

@Vitorruy1

8 ай бұрын

classic older sister moment

No wonder PBD is a fan of Tate 😅

@ElonTrades

12 күн бұрын

Wolves

"With our new wedding-cake shaped business model, you'll be married to the business in no time."

@msc2u1

3 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 so true‼️💯💯💯

@HamzaMohmood

3 жыл бұрын

we are hiring for copy-writers!

@andromadusnaruto1544

3 жыл бұрын

Lol... 😂🤣🤣

@bryantony9836

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahhahaha..... Whoa man

@rachelsanders2314

2 жыл бұрын

Lord Engine - Great quote!

I was 17 when I was approached by one of those PHP recruiters…. I remember when I told my family they all told me it was a scam and I was near tears cus I thought it was an opportunity of a lifetime lol. When I told the recruiter I can’t do it she started insulting and belittling me , trying to manipulate me into joining. That was the end of my “self help “ and “I hate 9-5” phase hahaha

@karennyeley1063

2 жыл бұрын

Give us the name of the agent so I can go and give her a piece of my mind.

@karennyeley1063

2 жыл бұрын

@Dingle berry McDo , last name???

@juanpablorobayo3437

Жыл бұрын

Slightly related, I wanted to take a course on how to make millions from a guy online. My dad had to rip the bandaid early by pointing out that ID spent half an hour hearing things that were true but extremely generalized advice that would obviously make sense.

@ImSimplyAHuman

Жыл бұрын

What’s PHP?

@youpmediasupport3490

Жыл бұрын

self help is not a bad thing. The PHP recruiters use the terms wrong to get you inside.

I remember a friend of mine talked me into going to a meeting about a great business opportunity. The company rented out a room in One Pen Plaza. It felt like a strange bizarre hype fest. I felt uneasy I thought I was going to get indoctrinated into a cult. Glad I know how to spot these now. But I hate it whenever there's a convention and I see those scumbags and their energy drinks.

Always reminds me of shady Persian rug sales man 😂

I have my own horror stories from being in A*way for 4 years. I got out this year and I’ve never felt better

@HenryPaulThe3rd

3 жыл бұрын

Can you say how much you made each year?

@scar6073

3 жыл бұрын

You should talk about it on the drip

@kennetharreguin5720

3 жыл бұрын

how many friends and family members where you able to sucker in? and did you stop getting invited to functions?

@deepinurmom8159

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennetharreguin5720 😂

@vivee7790

3 жыл бұрын

@@HenryPaulThe3rd I rather not disclose but it definitely was a loss

Falling for an MLM was a right of passage into adulthood before the internet..

@damienholland9432

2 жыл бұрын

I went to one before the Internet and the first meeting set off red flags in my head. Never went back. Those people are creepy.

@nozrep

Жыл бұрын

yep!

@aaroncornish9955

5 ай бұрын

If you could leave the meeting without signing up, you succeeded.

He is %100 correct about people misusing the term “business owners” If you are a rideshare driver (Uber/Lyft) you are NOT an employee of Uber/Lyft nor are u a “small business owner” You are an “affiliate” or a “limited partner or an “independent contractor” Likewise if you are a KZread or a twitch streamer you are NOT an “employee” of Google or Amazon, you are a “partner” (Aka a random person off the street whom they choose to tolerate) In closing if “your business” can be “taken away from you” then you are not a “business owner” If your KZread channel getting taken down ends your business, then you “owned” nothing If your rideshare or food delivery contract gets deactivated, and that ends your “business” then you “owned” nothing 😂

@gteixeira

Жыл бұрын

Not really, an Uber driver gets to keep the car, as well as a KZread content creator still gets to keep the content in the event we get canceled on either. We can just market our services elsewhere.

@KingRemoji

Жыл бұрын

@@gteixeira How many rideshare drivers quit Uber and tried to “go private” make up their own list of clients they get paid by, and find success at it?- extremely few. Because they lost access to the millions of customers Uber provided. As far as KZread goes, how man successful KZreadrs hit 10 million subs, then tried to start their own app, or competitor to KZread?, quite a few, there’s vids here on YT about how that turned out. 😂 The creators either fail n disappear, or they fail n end up back on YT, tail between their legs, literally making THIS face: 😅

@killerratchet1973

4 ай бұрын

If I recall correctly California does legally consider ride share drivers as being employees but they're the only state who does.

@user-du4zj1dx2u

Ай бұрын

I want to send this comment to DSP

It’s weird how people don’t immediately think if I recruit I will have more competition selling this amazing product. My mom did Mary Kay and she like everyone else quickly ran out of friends and family to sell to and was stuck with hundreds of dollars worth of product. At least crappy insurance company doesn’t stick you with makeup :)

@kennethmaldonado8681

9 ай бұрын

Which crappy life insurance company?

@aFutureSelf

9 ай бұрын

@@kennethmaldonado8681Patrick bet David’s insurance company

Friendly reminder that selling product and recruiting people doesnt make you a business owner. Having actual control or shares in the company does.

My neighbor’s daughter got an MBA from a decent school, and a year later was hanging out in gas stations trying to sell people some kind of MLM car wax 😂😂😂

@IPoopOnYouEveryLastOneOfYou

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly you've never heard of door to door selling men's makeup kits coming to a premature zombie apocalypse near you!

@Shoegazebasedgenre0.

2 жыл бұрын

brutal

@ordinaryperson-my7qr

2 жыл бұрын

That's just sad...

@malvolio01

2 жыл бұрын

Doubtful

@ElpSmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@malvolio01 Press X to doubt

That's the thing. There is not enough margin on the product to make EVERYONE in the chain rich. EVERY person who makes a living MUST have people under them who work hard but DO NOT.

And PBD goes around pretending like he owned the insurance industry and hes a big shot. Very disappointing.

Glad you covered Patrick Bet David.. his company is big in my city (Bakersfield) they recruit a lot of kids out of high school that end up working for free pushing the fake narrative online that they are making money, they want you to recruit and that’s it. They don’t assist you in getting your license it’s all a scam meanwhile the main bosses there pull up in bentleys and RR

@Kronic1Chillz

3 жыл бұрын

I think they make the money from the initial $200 sign up fee, that seems to be his main generator or revenue

@thrillascablinga2170

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@itsmike9227

3 жыл бұрын

how sad

@controversialzimbabwetv6807

3 жыл бұрын

Patrick Bet David is a legend!

@leodahvee

3 жыл бұрын

@@controversialzimbabwetv6807 that's a controversial take, Mr. Controversial Zimbabwe TV

“It’s because you didn’t work hard enough” Dude, becoming a doctor is incredibly difficult. But if 95% of students quit medical school the first year, something would be obviously wrong with the system. Not the students.

@spaghetti9845

2 жыл бұрын

IF they are med students smart enough to do that why are they not smart enough to recognize a snake oil salesman?

@decrobb.606

2 жыл бұрын

James juli said that

@bobbygetsbanned6049

2 жыл бұрын

95% is probably a low estimate, more like 98-99% lol.

@hamzerpanzer

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Nah 95% would still be very concerning. 98 or 99% is just ridiculous

@scatdawg1

Жыл бұрын

I think 95% of people who try ANYTHING stop within the first year

2 years later and no response from Valuetainment....

@metallicbeast

10 күн бұрын

lol true

I just about fell out of my chair with an estranged relative called me out of the blue, regarding "something important". 15+ years no contact and she calls me with "an amazing opportunity" . When she said the name I IMMEDIATELY remembered this video! Thank you!!! I remembered the information shared on your channel and tactfully declined. (Despite her and her friend's tackiness in calling me this way in the first place.) So I guess he's still at it, holding flashy shows, with famous entertainers, people sharing their rags to riches stories, the whole nine yards. (Or cubic yards, since we're dealing with manure.) keep doing the good work you do to protect vulnerable people who are struggling financially.

That's Jamie Kennedy, from the Malibu's Most Wanted movie. An actor selling MLM

@badomen8262

3 жыл бұрын

Man he's fallen a ton more than I thought

@mummert1313

3 жыл бұрын

Ty. Knew i knew that face.

@klyffjohnson

3 жыл бұрын

Was going to post this, but had to scroll to see if anyone else caught it

@satney117

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao I thought that was him.

@f1champ551

3 жыл бұрын

First known from 1 bloody season of The Jamie Kennedy Experiment...

The McDonald's comment reminded me of a factoid I read about years ago. I was reading a book about poverty and apparently drug dealing is also sort of a ponzi scheme and drug dealing is very similar to an MLM. I was always under the impression that drug dealing was very lucrative, the downside off course was that it was extremely unethical and incredibly risky but that was how it defeated arbitrage. In reality its the same pyramid scheme as plenty of other things. The low level dealers who take almost all the risk and do all the work earn much less than McDonalds workers (in fact many have to work side jobs at McDonalds in the inner cities to survive). The mid level drug dealers still don't make that much but they spend everything on image, hence the 'bling'. So in reality even the mid level drug dealers are often quite poor but they seem fabulously wealthy on the street. Only the few at the very tippy top actually make vast amounts of money.

@Smile4theKillCam456

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I’ve watched Breaking Bad

@enamuossuo

Жыл бұрын

Freakonomics showed a study about that

@astrix1238

Жыл бұрын

You can make decent money if you grow the weed yourself, I have an uncle who lived purely from selling weed he grew himself.

@AltCTRLF8

Жыл бұрын

it also hurts if you’re a customer as well. i know i can’t be a dealer lol i’d end up smoking or sniffing my supply.

Coffee is absolutely brilliant in dismantling false claims of hyped get-quick rich and crypto scams.

PBD may have started out as a drifter but honestly his podcasts on youtube are amazing and he brings on great talent.

I always knew there was something fishy about Patrick. Never trusted him.

@tear728

3 жыл бұрын

Just the Valuetainment logo was enough for me to be a cynic.

@cinialvespow1054

3 жыл бұрын

@@tear728 a lion ?

@tear728

3 жыл бұрын

@@cinialvespow1054 the aesthetic

@Kronic1Chillz

3 жыл бұрын

but you can't lie his youtube channel is entertaining as hell

@rufus5208

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always got this weird vibe from him. I can just see some deceit in his face.

😂 He really destroys an entire niche😂😂😂

I really thank coffee because i almost got reeled into a whole mlm scam after watching his videos and realized what if I didn’t watch his videos we need more people like coffee

Jaime Kennedy with the MLM bit😂

Pretty telling about the state of Jamie Kennedy’s career that Coffeezilla could not recognize that the guy in the third video was Jamie Kennedy

@BillTrammel

3 жыл бұрын

I came to the comments and was like wait what how is no one talking about the fact that Jamie Kennedy is doing MLMs now lol

@V0YAG3R

3 жыл бұрын

Jamie... WHO!?

@awdturbopowah773

2 жыл бұрын

Thank god this comment was here. I couldn’t believe it was actually Jamie Kennedy. Malibu’s Most Wanted just isn’t paying the bills anymore.

@yeez13

2 жыл бұрын

Was just about to comment this

“The champ is here!” Ears bleed automatically.

True story: I once got invited to go to a "meeting at a church" from a guy I matched with on a dating site.... Turned out it was a scAm-way meeting. I got the strongest cult vibes, and got out of there!

wow you really confirmed something about Patrick Bet David to me....all the times I've seen his videos I just felt something is off about that guy. Now to find out he has this terrible MLM company going makes all the sense in the world....too bad so many credible people go on his show

@mipmipmipmipmip

Жыл бұрын

I think the BizDoc stopped having content there and I unsubscribed by then.

@jimj2683

Жыл бұрын

Me too! He just seems like such an overconfident scammer.

@Aaron-kj8dv

Жыл бұрын

Same here, I thought there was something that came off as kind of slippery and when I saw him in the video I was "my intuition was right"

@RawNoLimits

Жыл бұрын

Some of his interviews have been fantastic, but over time it became more transparent that the dude is just another greedy capitalist.

@Quepasa_mufasa

Жыл бұрын

He lives pretty wealthy off it too.

My mother has invested in so many MLMs. It hurts how obvious these scams are to me but she thinks that if she works hard she could make it someday. The worst thing is that she trusts literally everyone except my brother and I who keep warning her about these schemes.

@ryanthompson4940

2 жыл бұрын

These scumbag MLM’s pray on those types of ppl. Really sorry to hear that. Hopefully it hits her that you and your bro are the two ppl she should be trusting.

@raulh5457

2 жыл бұрын

Show her this video

@panuwatbuthorntaraj2909

Жыл бұрын

Someone love sweet poison than bitter medicine

@jimj2683

Жыл бұрын

Typically lonely people with few friends end up like this.

@grammar_shark

Жыл бұрын

"Invested" is probably the wrong word.

My original red flag with PHP was when I saw that they’re $100 million business but they have 5000 employees. That’s an average of just 20,000 per year per employee.

@Alex-vk7qg

3 жыл бұрын

They have over 20,000 now Lol

@titonothere6179

2 жыл бұрын

5,000 agents? Patrick says he has 16500 lic agents

@titonothere6179

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-vk7qg but yet only “10k” showed up to their BIg EVENT in Vegas! Lmfao. Sure!

@appleid3223

2 жыл бұрын

the red flag is that it’s an MLM, you don’t need any other flags.

@eh9298

2 жыл бұрын

The same here. Almost got scammed by a low down agent who was trying to talk to me just to recruit me. Smh. I was so mad. But Thank God he sent someone to make me realize the truth. Greedy and want their dreams to come true no matter the cost of hurting people

Something you forgot to include was that those numbers are only taking into account people who were actually paid. That 67% of people making $200 with php seems bad but thereare waaaaayyyyyy more people than that who made literally $0 (I would know as someone who has been scammed). So keep in mind as bad as these nubers look they are inflated and in reality are worse than they look.

Coffee needs to revist Patrict Bet david cause he is up to his old BS again

"The champ is here" sounds like a great parody wrestling theme. Cracked me up 😄

@KyleRyanFilm

2 жыл бұрын

You too could make as much as an amateur wrestler, just get two friends to sign up!

@tylerd1297

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a bad Kanye West beat

@angefabricenda560

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like "the scam is here" 🤔

@Uainebmd

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, is that what they were saying? I was hearing Tamp and trying to figure out what in the world that was meaning.

Those who dislike this video are part of an MLM

Glad I found these vids before I kept going to these meetings Im a skeptical person so I already had a weird feeling about the amway scheme and I’m glad I have an open mind and do my own research and found these videos because they almost got me

Love this guy, I wish you all the success. If Coffee gets bigger, it will save a lot of people their money and time

I remember once watching the Valuetainment KZread channel and thinking: "This guy speaks like a creepy used car salesman, he'd be great in an MLM!" fast forward to this video and what do you know...

@motgbg

2 жыл бұрын

Right, Still Valuetainments as a channel has great value. This part of hi business life is good.

@damienholland9432

2 жыл бұрын

@@motgbg I actually don't like his Valuetainment interviews. His questions are very superficial. And he says "Got it" when people answer him like he's not really absorbing very much.

@bardanmalla193

Жыл бұрын

@@damienholland9432 lmao . I wonder who's interview you like

@caspar_gomez

Жыл бұрын

@@damienholland9432 I hate him he's clearly not as smart as he thinks he is, doesn't understand anything his guests talk about and always cuts them off or talks over them and asks redundant questions in a semi confident voice, can't stand him

@piglet7943

Жыл бұрын

@@damienholland9432 Valuetainment costs me NOTHING and I’ve gotten so much out of it.

The more I watch your videos, the more glad I am that I got out of that MLM as soon as I did. Not only was my anxiety screaming at me about how it was a terrible idea, their "training" meetings were nothing but cult-like self-indulgent meaningless fluff and near worship of the company's founder that got so bad, I even started asking "Is this a euphemism for something?" only for me to later answer, "This IS a euphemism for something!"

The worst thing a about MLM schemes is having a friend trying to trying to sell you MLM schemes. If your business model relies on you constantly trying to sell useless crap to your friends and family it’s likely a scam.

The average sales and burnout rate is so bad that the only way to make significant money is to build a recruiting organization, not a sales organization. No one makes real money on their sales, only on the aggregate sales of their downline. But they tell you it’s a great opportunity, which is why it’s unethical.

As someone who got suckered into PHP and went through all the licensing BS and everything else... I'm really glad to start seeing them on this channel more.

@Geo_K012

2 жыл бұрын

So youre saying you couldn't make it work?

@reddragon88200

7 ай бұрын

​@@Geo_K012you made the classic nln guilt trip

Finally went after PHP! I live 5 minutes away from a PHP Office in Los Angeles and most of the time they have a nice car outside probably to entice people to join

@estycki

3 жыл бұрын

I was briefly employed by an mlm (actual employee in the office) and I took the bus to work. They argued why they couldn’t pay me more, but the small parking lot was full of super cars :/ No one did any work, I showed up my first day and waited outside for two hours because no one comes to the office, half the time I was alone there. They brought in all the cars whenever there was a big presentation (pitch).

@gumerzambrano

2 жыл бұрын

@@estycki Wow it's not surprising they wouldn't care about their employees

All these scammers. Usually exciting theatrical music is a dead giveaway that it's a scam.

This made me realize Amazon DSP are also a multilevel marketing scheme selling a dream to DSP owners to deliver amazon packages and prey down on workers who don’t deliver fast enough. This really opened my eyes to the real world

Looooool when the camera panned out to the old couple

If the MLM is making you buy into their “program”, and pay fees to them, they are scamming you.

I've watch Patrick on valuetainment but I wasn't sure exactly how his company was. He makes it sound like he is in advertising and insurance. I didn't know he basically had had a pyramid scheme

If your here because of X because of pbd just keep in mind. In a typical Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) structure, there are two ways to earn commissions: 1. *Product Sales*: You can earn commissions by selling products or services to customers. This is usually a straightforward transaction, where you earn a commission on the sale price. 2. *Recruitment*: You can also earn commissions by recruiting new members to join the MLM. When someone you recruit makes a sale or purchase, you earn a commission on their activity. This is where the "multi-level" aspect comes in, as you can earn commissions on multiple levels of recruits. So in Other words not all mlm are bad systems but can be used as incentive proformance based system and considering product or service is great and trustworthy.

MLM Participants: "Hey, at least I made a couple grand. That's better than nothing." IRS: **Knock knock** "Yeah... about that......."

@Henilegasp

3 жыл бұрын

😅🤣😂🤦🏾‍♀️

@theforce5191

3 жыл бұрын

The couple grand made as a 1099 can pay less tax than the w2. Look it up.

@detrockcity3

2 жыл бұрын

@@theforce5191 yeah this comment doesn't really make sense.

@theforce5191

2 жыл бұрын

@@detrockcity3 he's refdering to the taxes you have to pay as a 1099. As 1099 u pay taxes at the end of the year. So the original Comment made it seem like whatever you make as 1099 will be (mostly) taken from the irs. So I come in and tell him as a 1099 you pay less taxes than someone who's w2.

I didn't know he ran an MLM. I just saw his podcast once where he rambled about things he had no clue about and wouldn't let his guests talk by either getting louder and talking over them or pretending to be an authority on the subject when he wasn't.

I love that these disclosures are out there and you're showing them.

I knew Patrick ran an insurance company but I didn’t know it was an MLM. Wow.

@firerabbit2659

Жыл бұрын

Same, but considering how slimey he seems and speaks... Is that really surprising? He doesn't seem like the kind of guy to just like insurance as an industry.

Brilliant video. Exactly why all the pro-MLM's videos say 'don't get bogged down with the details, the compensation plan, etc.....'

And then Patrick goes around telling people how great he is, and how he got there by thinking 15 moves ahead. Yeah, bud... we just have the moral fabric that you're missing. That's what limits us from being your kind of rich.

@muscleman0009

10 ай бұрын

Crazy…I didn’t know his biz was an MLM. Bummer 😢

Heroic job, Man, disclosing these scamers! Hats down! At last someone is courageous enough to tear apart such ponzi heavyweight as Amway

I remember back in the day my mom was an mlm avon guru. She had parties on parties I always remember our living room filled with useless nicknacks. Her friends sitting around laughing looking at the mags everyone bought something every time and she even enlisted a few of them. Lol my mom was a conartist without even knowing it.

@WilliamsLovesToLearn

11 ай бұрын

did your mum become rich?

@thatsthejobbb8587

4 ай бұрын

Hey it's Avon, their stuff was decent at least😂 come to think of it, it was my aunt doing the parties. Avon, Tupperware, Anne Summers, one time she was flogging water vacuums & steamers, even had a big long video we had to sit and watch😂

An MLM called World Financial Group made rounds in the area I was living at, when they went after me they framed it as a "job interview" after they had supposedly "saw my resume being passed around". The fake interviewer stupidly gave the obvious tells of an MLM ("you can be your own boss!" Was something he unironically said). One thing that stuck with me was when he gave an anecdote about how he asked his "boss" how he was making so much more money than him, and the boss said "because I'm not you". This guy trying to sucker me in was using a time where the guy who suckered HIM in straight up insulted him to his face as though it were an inspirational quote! World Financial Group, avoid them.

@avematthew

Жыл бұрын

I got some of their seminars on audio when someone tried to recruit me once, out of curiosity. They were wild. So much talk of how the business would save your marriage?

@adamestrada7610

Жыл бұрын

YESSS! I've had three friends get suckered into WFG (or Virtuity Partners, a subsidiary). One of my friends who fell particularly hard invited me to a group "interview" with them. I accepted, and then proceeded to keep posing basic math questions to the presenter where their business model pretty clearly shows the scam. In the end, I had two burly men escort me out of the Citibank building where the WFG office was located (fun fact: lots of Citibank execs in bed with MLMs, including WFG). Apparently it struck a chord with my friend because he got out a month later. Also, if you attempt a stunt like that, just make sure someone you trust knows the address of the interview, and instructions on what to do if you don't respond within a certain timeframe. Those burly bouncer dudes were pretty intimidating, NGL.

@radonsmith4386

Жыл бұрын

World Financial Group - isnt that the company Ed Mylett supposedly made his money from.

In every conversation, someone is buying, and someone is selling. Sell or be sold.

Just wanted to say i love you brotha. you're doing gods work.

I used to love Valuetainment, and although it was "nice", I cannot trust the words of someone who is scamming people. Those who feed on other people's desperation by showing them pipe dreams are just mercenaries!