MK8 Golf R Stock vs STAGE 2 MK7.5 Golf R Race!
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Today, two unknown drivers take a trip to Mexico to compare a stock 2023 Golf R (DSG) to a Stage 2 EQT Tuned 2019 Golf R (DSG.) Results were very surprising
2023 Golf R (7AT)
-Stock, 91 Octane
2019 Golf R (7AT)
Downpipe, Intercooler, Intake, Exhaust
Stage 2 EQT Engine/Trans Tune
91 Octane
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Mk8 GTI and Golf R are massive performance improvements over the 7 and 7.5 no denying it.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
Can’t wait to start seeing more vids like this with stage 2 on the mk8’s! Cool vid
@JVette01
7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Great results! Did a couple rolling "tests" a few days ago with my buddy's stage 2 MK7.5 GTI vs my stock MK8 GTI and we were neck-neck. Conclusion: MK8 > MK7
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I know! It’s incredible how quick they are from the factory. Huge improvement for only “15-20hp”
I check out these videos to see if making improvements is worth it or not and my stock mk7.5 is so far one of the best cars ℹ ever had almost as good as my mk2 audi tt vr6 manual transmission. Considering the golf r just because it’s in the middle of both the gti and tt 😊
I have both. Stock 20th 8r same spec as yours and a 18 7.5r eqt stage 2. The 7.5 is significantly faster than the stock mk8. The guy in the 7.5 must not have pulled his O2 or something else is wrong with his car... cool video though I'd like to see more about the blue mk7
@volkssturm9694
9 ай бұрын
exactly, I raced a stock MK8 R with my stage 2. FBO audi S3 8v.5 and a pulled on it by multiple bus lengths.
@citydavis
5 ай бұрын
Is that a butt dump or did you race your mk8 bs your mk7 ??
Great races mate, so closely matched. Would’ve be great to see from a dig too.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I agree
I have a stage 1 cupra st 300 (which is basically a golf 7.5R with different badge) and I smoke stock mk8 R.
The mk7.5 most likely needs new injectors and a good carbon cleaning of the valves. You'd be surprised how much power it robs especially in the top end.
Something ain’t right, I got a stock mk8 as well and raced a stage 2 eqt mk7.5 and he pulled on me every time, stage 2 eqt should be about 360-370hp compared to ours at 315hp. There’s no way a FBO stage 2 7.5 beats a stock mk8, if the mk8 was stage 1, then yea you’ll pull every time
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
You saw the results. Idk what to say 🤷♂️ maybe our crappy 91 octane isn’t as quick as 93 for tuned cars.
@user-nd7sw1ki6p
11 ай бұрын
This is a really weird result lol, it’s an OTS tune so very rare there would be something up with his tune. You gotta get your car on a dyno and see what the results are, because this car is definitely not at 315hp if you pulling away like that
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Often times these tuning companies claim extremely high, best case scenario numbers. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re putting around the same whp on a dyno.
@user-nd7sw1ki6p
11 ай бұрын
Some do, but I’ve seen independent dyno results and they are close to eqt numbers, varies with temp, mods, etc. These conti turbos on our mk8s have more room for power than the 7.5, but a proper stage 2 fbo 7.5 will put down higher numbers than a stock mk8. Either way, your car is moving lol, keep up the content
@mqbr22
11 ай бұрын
MK8 R makes about 330-335 HP actually. They put down like 305 AWHP. My friend has S3 with stage 2 EQT on 93 octane with same bolt ons and ran a 11.9 at 113 mph and I ran a 12.4 at 110 mph all stock in my MK8 R so yea if the MK7.5 was on 93 it would have pulled on him
My mk8 is about turn 20k. Think it’s time to go full send muahahah. Great stuff !! 😊
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Yessir 😂
Damn. I figured it’d be closer but no doubt the MK8 is pushing much power than VW claims. Either way both very quick. I’m thinking 0-60 would be very close too. Now Tell us more about the blue beast😀
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Ikr 🤣
That was super impressive….which tells me how much improved the new MK8 R is from the factory…wow….great videos man keep em’ up!🫡
@JVette01
7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Something wrong, the 7.5 stage 2 should be a high 11 second car. Should've done some dig races with a dragy. That is a high 12 to low 13 second car stock. 😳
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong. I actually raced another stage 2 mk7 Golf R and beat it pretty substantially but didn’t post that one beside I thought something wasn’t right.
@racer247
11 ай бұрын
@JVette01 it's kinda weird because you hear about MK7.5's being really close to MK8's in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, then you watch the carwow video where the MK8 destroys a MK7.5. These cars are very quick stock, but I still want to tune my car. Since the TCU tune isn't available yet, I'll wait. Thanks for the great content. Keep it coming and be safe out there. 😎
@bmw_for_life8902
11 ай бұрын
I would agree with u the mk8 makes 300whp -310whp stock that golf r with the tune should be pushing more power than that but idk maybe the fuel isn’t good enough and pulling timing back but I feel like that mk7.5 should be faster than that either way 🔥vid
@edmilsonteixeira4793
10 ай бұрын
In europe the mk8 R make 355hp and 455 torque stock no tune this is the real power he make and the golf mk7.5 R in stage 2 make 365 hp and 493 torque no much different here maybe in usa it's different and the mk8 r have the biggest turbo.
Respect to EQT tune one of the best tuner..but that Golf R Mk8 obviously underrated engine 💪 you gave a hard time to tuned mk 7.5 GOLF R..😂good race
Great content! Please also do a MK8 GTI Stage 2 Vs Stock MK8R MK8 GTI Stock vs MK7R Stock if possible. Subscribed!
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Mk8 GTI vs 7R would be a great race! I’ll see if I can make it happen
@youngrios
10 ай бұрын
@@JVette01been waiting for this as well
Damn the mk8 is quite impressive i haven't seen any mk8 golf r in person only the gti but I'm trying to find a good awd car to drive year long eventually in winter would be more the test we have a lot of snow here in Canada
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Highly recommend!
@katiecannon8186
10 ай бұрын
My husband and I are in Canada right now. Ohhhhhh Canada! You have a beautiful country. Love it here. Also, The MK 8 is superb!
that blue mk7 is sick, where can i see it on IG or on youtube?
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I will do a video on it eventually if hes cool with it ;)
Where do you have such nice open roads?
@JVette01
9 ай бұрын
I mention in the video ;)
Very good result , Golf mk8 is the best 👍🚀🚀 .
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
That bigger (stock) turbo on the new MK8’s putting in work 😆
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
Indeed!
Are you going to tune your mk8? Is there any difference in tuning a regular mk 8 vs the 20th anniversary?
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I don’t think there will be a difference. Once they crack the ECU, I’ll strongly consider tuning it then.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
TCU* sorry
@robt9790
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Ya, I have a GTI and ran into this exact issue with the TCU.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Sometimes without tuning the ECU, the tune won’t perform like it’s suppose fto
@lukedebu5210
10 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Unitronic has the ECU and TCU i believe, they have a great stage two package
those are the results I would expect stock vs stock, not stage 2 vs stock mk8. I suspect something is wrong with the stage 2 car
Going from a Stage 4 MK2 Focus RS to a stage 1 high torgue Golf R, ive always found the R to be a bit 'gutless' at the top end. But its not what the Golf R is about. What would be the point of gearing a hot hatch to be its quickest at 100+. The Golf R is about being a great everyday all rounder that great at everyday speeds. Thanks for making the video, but it could of at least done a spread of roll-ons from different speeds and used someone that understands how to start a run!
That was a great match up. Wish the MK7.5 owner was a bit better with reacting to the 3 honks go but seems like you get a clean walk on him. Try one of the line next time maybe
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
We need to set up a dig! I had that in the back of my mind but didn’t think of a good easy place to do it
@mqbr22
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Yea it’s hard to get it all set up on the street. My friend has a stage 2 EQT on 93 octane and he ran a 11.9 at 113 mph and I ran the 12.4 at 110 mph. I guess the 93 octane tune helps? Also there is sensor that should be unplugged on the MK7.5 platform as it thinks the car is running rich and pulls some timing or boost. Forgot what exactly it is but EQT is working on a proper solution. It will make the car run slower over time if not unplugged so that maybe explains the results also
Dude in the MK7.5 needs to remove that intake asap. The OG APR intake is absolutely trash. Their newer open air model flows better but I’d honestly go IE, Racingline, or Blaze performance
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Nelbone
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 absolutely! Hope that wasn’t interpreted negatively. I drive a fbo ecu/tcu MK7.5 R as well. Wanna see the homies running as good as possible
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I understand completely! Helpful tips are good
Yours is a R 20 years which has some small tweaks over normal R. I want one but don’t think they worth twice the price of 7.5 R. A good spec is 55K £ 🙃
@JVette01
9 ай бұрын
It’s worth it over 7.5R for sure. Stock performance is so much better. However, I understand if you have a certain budget.
There’s still driver error involved with dsg transmissions. Y’all don’t like to believe it but the trans in sport will shift more optimally than you would messing with the paddles. Lol. I’ve seen plenty of people shifting on their own, do just as bad as folks with 6mt’s. 🤣🤷🏽♂️
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
100% agree. He wasn’t using paddles though so that’s good haha
@solsykness
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 Great video showing how impressive the MK8 platform is in stock form though. I had a MK7 and a MK7.5 R. The 7 was 6mt and the 7.5 was DSG. Both were FBO stage 2. I can only imagine how much faster the MK8 feels with comparable mods/tune.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I know! I might have to find out ;)
@solsykness
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 It's taking everything in me NOT to tune my GTI. It barely has 500 miles and I've already done a Milltek TBE, so it's ready for stage 2....but I'm going to wait and see what EQT is planning to do with this platform. My 7.5 R was EQT tuned and it was quick!
Real shame you didn't give any details on the 600hp golf
@JVette01
5 ай бұрын
Maybe in a future video!
I’d be pissed if I was the guy in the MK7.5 😂
MK8 🙌
Had a APR stage 2 Audi S3 with no upgraded intercooler or TCU tune and it was smoke my 2024 Golf R. Something isnt right with his car or else his tune is not the best 🤷
@JVette01
7 ай бұрын
Idk 🤷♂️
Dude has no idea how to race 😂
That's funny. At one point the other guy seemed clueless of what to hear and wait for with the honks. Seems like he only understood hand signals. Either way, I think that is incredibly impressive for a stock MK8R to pull on the Stage 2 MK7.5R. If I owned an older generation and put stage 2 money in it, I would have expected to rip on a stock MK8R to be honest, and I would have been really bummed about the outcome.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
He actually has a mk8 DSG too haha.
@shaglioni
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 oh damn, that's kind of crazy too.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a lot of fun. I wish we did a dig too
@shaglioni
11 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 yup, that would have been nice to see as well for sure. Surprised you couldn't find a road out there to race from a dig south of the border, hehe.
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
Maybe I’ll have him on the channel again
Lol the driver of white Golf R has never roll raced…lol doesn’t seem to u derstand concept of …3x horns then go…😅
I'd take the factory effort over the aftermarket 9 times out of 10.
@JVette01
8 ай бұрын
I agree. Sometimes with aftermarket tunes, the power is very conditional and doesn’t perform likes it’s supposed to 100% of the time
My 2016 mk7 6spd dsg apr stage 2 made 11.9 sec quarter mile. Assuming mk8 stage 1 will be faster. Mk8 has a bigger stock turbocharger and all better fuelling system etc.
ahh man, is it limited to 150 that sucks, hope its just the tires, these can go lot faster than that with the right tires, when he got the jump it was even, still the mk8 id say is better stock
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
My tires are rated for high speeds so I’m not sure why they put the limiter at 150
@chrism869
10 ай бұрын
@JVette01 very odd, I would say maybe it would be limited to 155 or 164 since that's what Germans do ,but to have it limited at 150 Is very weird, I know these things can easily push 165 maybe even little bit more i think the claimed top speed is 168 , you can tell it wants to keep pulling past 150, such an amazing car, ehh whatever, I'm sure a tune will solve that since i think you can get the limiter removed ,I could be wrong tho.
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
Once tuned, top speed limiter is indeed removed! :)
Perhaps the guy in the mk7.5 can’t hear you with all that window tint🤔
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
It’s a special sound deadening tint 🤯
This guy has done something wrong with his stage 2 mk7.5 if his car isn't destroying a stock mk8. This shouldn't even be a contest.
@JVette01
6 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s the heat and 91 octane? Idk but the results speak for themself.
@DoubleHelixStrand
6 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 I own a mk7 R with an EQT stage 2 tune and the mods he has and have a friend with a stock mk8 and they're not at all on the same level. Maybe the guy needs plugs/coils/carbon cleaning or something but these two cars should be different leagues.
@JVette01
6 ай бұрын
After doing some research online, a stage 2 mk7 golf r traps similar to a stock mk8 so it’s not that unbelievable. However, from a dig, modified mk7 does better.
No way a stage 2 mk7.5. Like stock tune with an exhaust. A true stage 2 mk7.5 would have smoked the mk8 no question.
@JVette01
9 ай бұрын
It is a true stage 2… I showed the mods in person. Maybe our bad 91 octane makes the tune not perform like it should?
Looks like I bought the right car
No doubt the gen 4 2.0t is quick, the mk7 & 7.5 are just better looking cars
@JVette01
8 ай бұрын
Sure!
It all depends on who is driving the car. Looks like the guy in mk7.5 can’t drive a DSG. A stage 2 MK7.5 should do mid 3’s 0-100 and around 11.96 1/4 mile. A stock mk8 is no where near that time spec.
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind we’re on bad 91 octane
Eqt isn’t a great tune but mk8 is fast
Mk7 owner “it’s probably faster”….cue sad song on a small violin. Jokes aside crazy that a Mk8 GTI stage 2 is faster than stage 2 7.5 Golf R based on this result, because I walk away from a stock 8R in my 8GTI Stg 2…wild times. From a dig tho I’d obviously get that sad song 😅
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I have a buddy that should be tuning his mk8 GTI soon so we’ll see how stage 1 does!
Depends on the tune. From a dig the stage 2 would win by a reasonable margin. Usually
@RacerScott
8 ай бұрын
My stock mk8r does 0-60 3.9
@42cuba
8 ай бұрын
@@RacerScott prove it then buddy. The 20 year edition Mk 8 with +10kw does a 4.5s.
@RacerScott
8 ай бұрын
@42cuba I'm on the draggy leader board. Same username, RacerScott. My mk8r is 100% stock. 0-60 4.14. 0-60 3.92 with 1ft rollout, which is the industry standard for measuring 0-60. 1/4 mile 12.46 @ 109.61. Have a nice day pal
Mk 7.5 owner doesn't know how to race worth crap, the guy so nervous and didn't know when to go lol. Regardless I'm super impress with the MK8, I'm debating between that or the new manual supra. Supra is 10k more but obviously much faster.
@JVette01
5 ай бұрын
Manual Supra might not be that much faster than a golf r but the automatic one blows it out. Just depends on what you’re using it for.
@Kai240i
5 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 I'm pretty good with a stick, so yea it'll smoke the mk8 for sure(from a roll), but I get what you mean, a less ideal driver will struggle with and possibly only be side by side with the MK8.
Something is wrong with that 7.5 Or the mk8 is not 100% stock 😂😂😂
@JVette01
8 ай бұрын
My car (the mk8) is stock.
Damn.. Mk 8 pulling on the tuned 7.5. I should stop watching these videos or else I'm going to end up trading my 7.5 R.
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
The MK8R is quick stock!
@ericcarson342
10 ай бұрын
@@JVette01 That is ridiculous quick. I had no idea that quick. I saw it advertised 3.9 0-60 consistently. That is Camaro SS and Mustang GT quick. I've never been in a tuned Golf R and this new MK8R stock is just crazy. Once a sleeper, always a sleeper.
@JVette01
10 ай бұрын
@@ericcarson342Absolutely! Stay tuned, I got to run a stage 1+ e85 tuned MK8 Golf R. Video coming soon :)
EQT stage 2 is trash apparently. He should be walking away from the Mk8. UNLESS, the Mk8 is underrated from the factory.
@JVette01
3 ай бұрын
Mk8 is underrated 😉
His car is probably faster on a dig
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I would love to have tested that out. Maybe in the future. I might do it as a short
@BlamBar-qj8yh
11 ай бұрын
or maybe not lol
these are not real races
@JVette01
11 ай бұрын
I agree. They’re fake filmed on a green screen somewhere in Tijuana Mexico