MK7 VW GOLF R HALDEX GEN 5 AWD **FIXED**
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For more info on Haldex and to buy service and repair parts, please visit these guys' website:
www.haldexrepairs.co.uk
THE HALDEX REPAIRS PROMO CODE HAS NOW EXPIRED BUT THE PARTS ARE STILL COMPETITIVELY PRICED
Please note it's always difficult filming workshop items on your own so I've started to use a head mounted camera. This doesn't always pick up what it needs to because often (not always) it's actually impossible to see the item being worked on with your eye. Plus the exhaust system runs very close to the diff and coupling which again doesn't help. Apologies about the areas where this applies, hopefully they don't detract too much from the overall guide.
In this video I add Haldex all wheel drive system failure to the list of things to look out for when
buying a Mk7 Golf R (and many other AWD models) and show you to fix it properly and cheaply. It is disappointing that VW Group allowed a known issue with their previous generation cars to continue in these newer ones but there is a simple reason, the 30k/3 year Haldex oil change interval, while shorter than on the older PQ35 platform cars which was 40k miles with no time limit (yep, they went wrong too!), is still too long. Don't forget on the Haldex system used on a Mk1 TT/Mk4 Golf the oil change was every 20k miles. This extended interval is possibly to avoid the work having to be covered by VWG funded service plans or by leasing companies who tend to want the first 3 years to be low maintenance, why do you think the first brake fluid change is after 3 years yet the subsequent ones are every 2 years? It's the same fluid! Any issues tend to occur outside the 3 year warranty period which may means its no coincidence that VW will no longer sell you an extended 4 or 5 year warranty when the car is new.
MK7 GOLF R OWNERS PLEASE READ THIS:
The bevel box at the front of the propshaft is designed to fail if it's subject to excessive loads i.e. from remapped engines so this may be the cause of failure on modified cars. This video explains how to diagnose this:
• 2016 Golf R Bevel Box ...
This is a list of the cars affected (anything earlier will probably be Gen 4 and suffer similar issues as per our previous video)
Audi A1 2015 onwards
Audi A3 S3 RS3 / Sportback 2013 onwards
Audi A3 Cabriolet 2014 onwards
Audi Q3 2012 onwards
Audi TT / TTS / TTRS Coupe/Roadster 2014 onwards
Volkswagen Golf / Golf R / 4Motion 2013 onwards
Volkswagen Passat / 4Motion / Santana 2015 onwards
Volkswagen Sharan / syncro / 4Motion 2012 ownards
Volkswagen Tiguan 2013 onwards
Seat Alhambra 2012 onwards
Seat Leon / Leon 4 2013 onwards
Seat Altea Freetrack 2014 onwards
Skoda Octavia / Scout 2013 onwards
GTI PERFORMANCE/CLUBSPORT/TCR OWNERS READ THIS:
Your cars have a similar Haldex system but on the front axle known as the 'VAQ front differential'. It's not particularly well known that this too needs an oil change and being based on Haldex Gen 5 it also suffers from the issues shown in this video. We will cover this in a future video.
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For anybody with a VW group car this channel is rapidly becoming the go to resource. Excellent video as always.
So I would like to say thanks for your video as it helped me fix my 4 wheel drive issue, had the haldex serviced at 33.000 miles which was when I purchased my car, since 35.000 I've had tge odd traction issue which destroys the performance of the car, I'm stage 2+ so over 400 bhp, changed the pump now alls good again 👍thanks for your video keep them coming as I love learning about my 7 5 golf estate 🥳 Daz B
Thank you for your Video, i just changed the Oil at Haldex and Diff and had still no 4WD, the strainer was blocked - But for all those they made it by themselves please remember the Diff and Haldex are 2 seperate Oil systems, there are 2 Drainsrcews and 2 filler screws!! Greetings from Germany Car: 2013 Skoda Octavia III 1.8TSI 4x4
@PADDEX18
3 жыл бұрын
Update: I went today to my Skoda Dealer and there was a mechanical Failure on my Haldex system, and i get a Updated Software (TPI) on my Haldex system + Failure cleared. 4WD is better than ever and i think my Fuel consumption is lower :D
Big fan of your vids . I've been in the search for an inexpensive golf R and I've found a few that were way below book value and it seems the haldex is the cause to the lower cost . Definitely a great bit of info that can save me a ton !!
Just bought mine hopefully this fixes my problem
I think you helped me once by email for my haldex, thanx a lot. I recently discoverd my flex plate is worn, are ther any tutorials to be found? I need torque settings and stuff 😅. Thumbs up on the video👍
mine is doing exactly that noise. faulty pump but I have not fixed yet. Thanks for the video!
Another top quality demonstration/advice video...thank you Andrew.
Good video same thing on my R 16 plate mine only had 18k miles mine blew the 4wd fuse on the Vcds pump learn after oil change because pump was knackered, replaced blue fuse under dash new pump and oil from Matt and all good
I had the same symptoms and did just the adaptation without changing anything. Works now !!!! Cheap fix =D
I'm surprised the Haldex system is so prone to sludge after a very short time. Something is badly designed in there to cause that. And a worn commutator on a simple electric motor after such a short time also smacks of spare part repeat sales design. I never new that Haldex was in the same category as Lucas electrics.........
Hey i got the Same Problem on my s3 i allready chanched the Pump, oil and Filter But the Problem is still there. Can the magnet vavel also be the Problem ? Its an s3 8p with the gen 4 Haldex
Love the workshop vids
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Glen!
Interesting video - I'm guessing that changing the pump isn't part of the VW service schedule? My R only has about 1700 miles on the clock, but if I keep it after the PCP term ends & I do that mileage, I'll definitely change the pump, along with the oil. Is it also a time thing too? I've a funny feeling that VW schedule the Haldex oil change for 4 years OR 40,000 miles (whichever is first)? Worth doing on a 4 yr old R with less than 40k on the clock? Great information, really useful to know that
What were the symptoms. I’m dealing with vibration from rear when turning corners. No lights on the dash, just vibration.
Great surgery there Dr C I’m surprised given the safety aspect of the AWD system that you don’t get error lights or warnings that system isn’t working as it should - loving the workshop videos well done :)
Been looking through KZread as my S3 is doing this. I have an appointment with the dealership and I described what was happening but they still seemed confused. I’ll for sure show them this. Nice video.
@94Adeel94
3 жыл бұрын
Anything come of this?
@Shawn609
3 жыл бұрын
@@94Adeel94 ya they swapped out the pump and it solved the problem. The vehicle only made noise when accelerating out of a turn. Which the dealer technician said that was torque vectoring. Anyways new pump solved it. They also flushed the haldex system with new fluid to remove metal flakes.
@Vee2711
21 күн бұрын
Did you get any lights on the dash when the car was making the noise?
@Shawn609
21 күн бұрын
@@Vee2711 I did not. It was just making a clunking noise coming from the rear end when accelerating quickly out of a turn. Pretty much I was trying to loose traction on purpose but then the car made that noise. After 3 years the car seems to be fine and it had a couple track days.
@Vee2711
21 күн бұрын
@@Shawn609 thanks for the reply bro. Im dealing with vibration from rear end when exiting a corner under acceleration. The harder I accelerate, the worse the noise gets. When I unplug the Haldex, the noise goes away.
Currently having the same issues on my 2019 Skoda Superb, which has done 28k, 2 years old.
Loved it mate! great job. Wondering if you can do the pump learning with a OBD Eleven VAG app.
@volkswizard
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Never used OBD11 but it seems pretty good so I'd be surprised if it can't do it
What did you spray into the coupling to clean the sludge out? Brake cleaner? Carb cleaner? Degreaser? Maf sensor cleaner?
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, that was brake cleaner but carb cleaner will do too.
You must also ensure that the temperature is between 20C - 40C to properly fill the haldex unit
@silviutarcan5503
2 ай бұрын
What temperature. Outside temperature or the oil one?
@bradleygray2103
2 ай бұрын
@@silviutarcan5503 oil temp or the housing of the haldex. Oil and metal expand with heat. I get it if it's winter and first car of the day and 5C but personally if it was 17C I wouldn't care too much.
Another enjoyable garage vid Andrew 👍
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David 👍
Nice video! Haldex: "When I grow up I wanna be a Syncro". The Syncro Heresy
im a bit confuse i searched all around they said haldex need to change oil on gti 7 cs some say don't* some say there no haldex...
Really enjoying the workshop videos thanks! Can we get a video on mk7 creaky suspension fixes please? My early mk7 gti has the dreaded creak whenever going over bumps - would love to sort it out!
My golf R running with front wheel too, no fault code but spinning too much. No idea am i facing the same issue like this video
Thumbs up. Appreciate this Haldex series.
Hi , ive a volvo s60 t6 with haldex 5 gen , i changed the oil pump brand new , the shaft works good no faults in the cluster and the rear wheels not working i dont know whats happend .
I get the Haldex filter cleaned every time the 15k km service is due (well, that's only 2 times so far!). The first time it was horrendously dirty. 2nd time was OK, but still, going to carry on doing it every year. Think it getting a bit tired though, so will change next time up.
So I have been looking at possibly financing a superb sportline 280 probably next summer, but Im starting to see an awful lot of gen 5 haldex failures and issues, some even paying thousands to get it replaced because vw refuses waranty if the car is not stock. I want a 280hp awd car for a reason, it wont be abused, but it will be driven... Do these gen 5s really break this easy, or people just dont maintain them?
Good job Andrew, sorted
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Yours I am sure was PERFECT!
I'll keep this video in my back pocket for my S3😉 thanks for this!
Great video!!
And this is now.... my car ☺️ extremely happy, thanks Andrew 🙏
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Phil I hope that means you had a decent run down to Andover. Thanks for coming to the Midlands to buy a car, not necessarily my car but you bought my one in the end so that's all that matters. Keep in touch. Andrew
@philipwatson219
3 жыл бұрын
I certainly will Andrew, I honestly don’t think I could have got a better car for the miles and price and in such a good condition that you presented it.
Does anyone have the torque values for the pump, fill and drain holes?
@eurorevs5589
Жыл бұрын
Pump bolts: 10NM, Drain plug: 30NM, Fill plug: 15NM
I took my Cupra to JCT600 Seat to get the Halden fluid changed. Afew weeks later this fault code came up differential lock and it would not go away. So it went back to a different JCT600 Seat and they found it to be a broke axle lock. Seat themselves even said that this part should not fail and had to order it from Spain because no where in UK had it in stock. The car was out of warranty but I argued good will gesture and after 5 weeks they accepted and fixed my car. Do you think this might of been caused by the Seat technician changing the wrong fluid in the Halden system?
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Is you car front wheel drive? If so, this may be of interest Peter. www.haldexrepairs.co.uk/guide-to-front-e-diff-lock-lsd-on-golf-gti-autobahn-seat-leon-skoda-octavia/ Is it a modified car?
Fantastic video, and to point out that OE supplier will be the same product at a cheaper price than the VW branded product. Any source for the OE in the USA? Seems your link/provider is for the UK only.
@AlexNZL
4 ай бұрын
FCP Euro and ECS both have haldex service kits
Awsome video as always. Very helpful 👌
Been having Haldex traction issues on my STock 2016 A3, dealer first replaced the Haldex pump, said it “works fine” after the pump replacement, it barely improved when I drove it, still lots of wheel spin and traction control light flashes constantly from dig, starting to think maybe they did not re learn the pump when installing however it was a procedure for a TSB so you would think they know to do that hey? Now back to the dealer and they found another code C111307 awd malfunction, and they said the clutch needs to be replaced since it is slipping when they lifted the car and tested the wheels spinning. They ordered a clutch which they said was near $4000 CAD, All covered under warranty fortunately, but my warranty ends in 1 week lol. So I sure damn hope that fixes it. They said my rear diff is fine, and I don’t believe I have symptoms of a failing rear diff, What would you recommend me to look for if the clutch doesn’t fix it? Great video as well.
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tenzin, The fact the dealer said it "works fine" yet it clearly didn't doesn't give me much faith in them. That C111307 is specifically listed on the Gen 5 page on the haldexrepairs.co.uk website as being caused by "typically blocked pump, clean out and relearn or defective transfer box" So it doesn't look like what they are going to do will fix it. Do you know anyone with VCDS? www.haldexrepairs.co.uk/generation-5-haldex-fault-finding-repair-guide/
@thekid6524
3 жыл бұрын
@volkswizard Thanks for replying! Yeah, it was two different dealerships that I had went to, yeah it is puzzling why they would give me a new clutch that is 4 grand, when they can possibly solve the issue for much cheaper. Guess they have no clue about the haldex system. We will have to see if the new clutch will fix the issue, but now I am having doubts. I do have access to a VCDS scanner at multiple audi specialist shops. What should I look for when scanning?
@thekid6524
3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard Hey volkswizard, so the car seems to be all fixed up now, with no traction control issues what so ever during acceleration! :) AD replaced the clutch, and tested the control module, module seemed to be Ok. CPO warranty ends in 4 days so I was very lucky. I believe the clutch failed due to the clogged pump not functioning properly for an extended period of time, causing no clamping force on the clutch when needed and lack of fluid, resulting in a slipping clutch which becomes fried eventually. Issue could have been resolved if I had fixed the clogged pump early enough I believe, but I did not experience TC issues until winter time, as I do not drive the car hard during summer. This is what AD stated at least.
Oil pump oem Numbers?
Great video
Andrew, I own a cupra 300 front wheel drive and currently having various faults appear. The haldex control unit was replaced under warranty as there are several communication faults present, but this didn’t fix the problem. Myself and the master tech suspect wiring from the haldex control unit to the rest of the car is damaged thus creating a lack of values which the haldex needs to know how to operate. Is there a business number I can reach you on, or an email? I’d love to speak with you in a little more depth, you’re very local to me too but I’ve noticed your business is down as “temporarily closed” on google. Please reach out if you see this!
@volkswizard
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Matt at Haldex Repairs is your man, just google him👍
Hi. Does a faulty haldex restrict the turbo kicking? I have s faulty haldex and I also do not have any turbo activity. Someone on a forum had the same issue and fixing the haldex also fixed the turbo issue he had.?
How Many got differential bearing problems🤔
@johnfranklin177
2 ай бұрын
My mates R has just been diagnosed with this, loud vibrations type noise coming from the rear at various speeds, gonna cost a kidney to get it fixed
Damn, I'm 20k km past replacing my haldex pump!
Good job and advice 👌
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙌
Hi, if you want to find out more about how the pump learn calibration works please see our little video here kzread.info/dash/bejne/npiuzbqeaZa2fdY.html
🤦🏼♂️ my Q3 Sline needs this done because last week when I pulled out of a damp/greasy junction it tramped on me. Scared the 💩 out off me actually 😂 Only good thing is I’ve 5 weeks of warranty left 😁 Ps Thankyou
Generally speaking is the pump the worst thing that go wrong on the haldex equipped mqb chassis?
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Yes though modified Golf Rs will knacker the bevel/transfer box at the front of the propshaft as it's designed to fail rather than allow excessive loads to damage more expensive parts of the drivetrain.
Excellent once again. Great content
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Kieran!
Probably why you lost the back end on the roundabout.
Great info thank you so much.
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome David!
I have a seat Leon xperience with the same problem. I notice that there are kits available on eBay to replace just the motor brushes and commutator costing around £20. Has anyone tried this.
Great video - I love these :)
Great video, just need to work on your camera skills. Head cam not the best mate
@einfelder8262
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I'm fighting off a seizure from trying to watch this...
V W seem to have a problem with everything sludging up !
@matthewsmith2787
3 жыл бұрын
Crap cars
@davidhaygarth648
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewsmith2787 Ive just tested a 17'reg gti and it misfired with 20,000 miles on the clock. Handling was awful to !
Good video as always
Very good video 👍
Shocking to hear your comments that official VW dealer service departments have been known to not do the "pump learning" process especially when its their software.
@dimitrisfilopoulos10
2 жыл бұрын
Do you just need the pump learning process if you putting in a new pump or even just the oil change as well? Thanks
Hey the discount code says it’s expired
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Just drop Matt an email at Haldex Repairs, I don't think it was to be a permanent deal as he's cheap anyway
Like you said it's a simple job you could do on your driveway. The only thing that will trip up many people is the access to VCDS. Very cheap service if not for that. Good video though.
@stevecade857
3 жыл бұрын
I guess once you've done the oil service and fitted a new pump you could still drive easily (no Haldex activation) to a specialist with VCDS to reset for the new pump. Drive home again carefully and top up the oil. Then you're good to go.
@burville100
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevecade857 Yeah possible I suppose? With risks maybe. Looked up genuine VCDS and their Novice hardware (max 3 cars) comes in at £225. Not a lot of money to be fair.
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
I can't see an issue with that Steve, it's not like the oil is lubricating bearings. The only thing to consider is that the pump pre-charges so it's constantly working just in case it's called upon to engage the back wheels (that why it's so much more responsive than the original Haldex)
Getting a headache while watching your video, shaking the cam. 🤪
You look like hannibal lector in that outfit
This is what broke on my mk3 tts. They wanted 2.4k to fix it. Got rid of it in the end
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
I bet it was actually a simple fix, it's common for main dealers to do this work but not do the pump learn function and then quote big bucks to fix it unnecessarily, madness.
@derekporter66
3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard first they cleaned the filter. 120 pound. Didn't work. Then I got the cable and program to reset the pump. Didn't work. Took it back and they said a whole new haldex unit. 2400
Awesome jobbb
Hola hace la misma falla me da el código c111307 audi a3 quattro 2014
@volkswizard
2 жыл бұрын
It will be the same fault as 2014 A3 has the same Haldex system
Gen5 pumps constantly burn out because the filter was done away with. Much easier and cheaper to change a filter than the pump.
Do u offer this Haldex service to the public from your garage ?? I would like to get my A3 Quattro ( 2017) checked out by you. I have recently had end of warranty check from Birmingham Audi and they mentioned nothing about this Haldex service or check
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Main dealer won't go looking for this problem, quite often they sell cars with this problem! I'm afraid Neeraj I don't offer this service but a good specialist like www.autops.co.uk is worth the drive. Just make sure your car doesn't spin up with ESC off and get the Haldex oil change every 2 years or 20k miles, whichever comes soonest.
@neerajtaheem5969
3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard anyone in Birmingham you can recommend ??? Is it worth me getting the extended Warranty from Audi ??? It has just finished at the end of OCT
@vroomgc
3 жыл бұрын
@@neerajtaheem5969 So what is the cost of a pump vs the extended warranty ? should be easy to figure out which way to go. Also does the extended warranty even cover this issue , you need to do some research...
Change the oil yearly. Easier and cheaper.🤨
@volkswizard
Жыл бұрын
20k max
wide angle lens needed for work under the vehicle- we cant see much of what you are doing
@hwntwww
2 жыл бұрын
Set up on a tripod- there is too much camera movement from your head
Anyone got a new coupon code for Haldexrepairs website? The VOLKS15 has expired 🙄
Excellent
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Promo code volks15 is now apparently expired, is there a recent one?
@volkswizard
2 жыл бұрын
Afraid not, it was a limited deal (I probably should have said that) but feel free to email them directly
@josephyork1989
2 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks will do 👍
Why does VW Audi engineer these cars to fail . Their DSG box and now Haldex . Their is an enormous failure rate of the DSG in S Africa 🇿🇦 myself included with an A3 sedan
@volkswizard
3 жыл бұрын
The issue here is oil change intervals, VWG had 20k intervals on Mk1 TT, as soon as this was pushed to 40k for PQ35 chassis cars there were problems. 30k/3 years for MQB is better but not often enough, it was clearly chosen to suit lease, PCP market and mean that the service plans don't have to cover Haldex oil change! 20k/2 years is where it needs to be.
@garyallman3039
3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard Why 2 years? It doesn't seem that the oil would go bad with time, just with temperature and contamination/clutch particles.
Workshop vids all-day long ...
I think Golfs are very superficial, they look well made, but they are unreliable and poorly made
This video is simply just one big advert - shameful
@volkswizard
Жыл бұрын
Advert for what? A company that allows you to save £100s of pounds by not going to a main dealerships to get the very common fault that means you need your Haldex coupling repaired? It’s not an advert but is that really that bad if it is? Is it better that people will and pay a lot of cash they can’t afford to the company who produced the hardware that fails prematurely and reward them for making it so rubbish? There’s a lot of rubbish on social media that is worth criticising, this is not it