RIP Mike Miller. I will cherish this conversation forever. Thank you for all you taught me. Rest easy #AtmosKing

@BosleyBeats

Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a hard hit to the trade. Mike is and will forever be the goat / Atmos King. I’m glad this interview exists as there’s just way too many gold nuggets into the process he perfected that will be a huge benefit to up and coming Atmos producers and mix engineers. RIP Mike. Love you buddy. 🙏🏾

@TirmanKidMusic

Ай бұрын

What happened?

I built my atmos room about a year ago... with focals actually based on your recommendation of them. I have 9.1.4 and got a chance to build the room from the ground up with the help of the Dolby team which was awesome. Once I heard it for the first time I was hooked and couldn't sleep for weeks because new ideas would pop into my head all night. I took the plunge for one reason and one reason only and that was art. Art will always win and this a phenomenal move forward in the art of music and will give all of us whole new perspective on what is possible. I'm glad you're on board and I'm excited to see more videos.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing! And, yes, I agree, the evolution of art will always win, and this feels like the biggest evolution to date to me personally. I feel exactly the same way about the future creative side of music.

@Nikkie_jurnigan

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune can you make discord server for us

@keywestjimmy

3 ай бұрын

Colt why don't you produce your KZread videos with spatial harmonics? Atmos does.

I love how you are embracing the atmos / spacial audio movement. You're one of the few on YT who see the industry's future. Great content.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that very much. It certainly feels like the right move to me!

I've had the pleasure to talk to Mike and the one thing that always strikes me when I hear him talking is how much passion he has for music and immersive audio. He just makes you excited about the future of immersive music. Also just so happens that he's damn good at mixing too!

Thank you for this, I was just starting planning for my new mix room when you started dropping hints about this and now I'm planning for building it as a 9.1.6 room. I hope you continue to share more on the thoughts about placement and how efficient fold down to stereo works

Very inspiring to watch you constantly grow and take new challenges over the years. You’re truly an inspiration for those (me included) that hope to do this job on a daily basis one day. Thank you Colt. Keep doing what you do! G.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That means a lot!

the question "drummer's perspective or not" will get with atmos quite a new dimension ;-)

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

It’s certainly re-introduces the discussion lol

One of the most frustrating things about being a producer is putting my love into each sound and having it in a “parking spot” lol where the lovely low end is chopped off, or the stereo image is mono’d etc. If this allows each sound to be free that’s super exciting.

Great video fellas! Started exploring outfitting my room for 9.1.4 using my metric halo 2882 devices. I’m fascinated by this as a next step.

really curious about the atmos space, thanks for doing the interview and taking us on the journey Colt! 🤘🏻

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Great interview! Thanks so much Colt! ✨🎶💛

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Colt, love your attitude complimenting him while asking probing questions. A mixer asking another mixer is the only way this information happens for us normies and you're a stud at that. Such a good interview.

Breaking my brain watching and listening to this. Colt, been watching your videos for a while now… absolutely love your content and you heart to serve the audio mixing community, thanks! When mixing for special audio, I would only assume that you are having to take moments in stereo and ensure that along the process the spatial decisions are not adversely affecting the basic stereo mix on the basics of sound systems. It’s mind blowing! Phase, masking, balance, power, punch, etc… all the things that can and do create challenges for the stereo mixer must be quite the challenge for the atmos mixer to get translation everywhere… hats off to you guys!

Great video. Thanks both ❤

Came for the nerdy info, stayed for the surprisingly inspirational talk :)

I have been thinking about starting a studio for a while now. I recently set out to start one, and with your recommendation, I am taking the initial jump and starting up an atmos studio.

Wow, that was so so interesting to listen to. Thank you!

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Love the hoodie Mike!🤘

I really appreciate everyone having different opinions but also being positive towards each other 🎉 rare commentary section 😂

I wasn’t so sure until I listened to the Harry Styles album. It sealed the deal for me. I never want to listen to stereo mixes again if atmos can sound like that.

@hamitcampos4989

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow you've heard Harry's House in full Atmos? But was it on an AVR? If so how many channals lit up? I'd love to hear As It Was in it's full channal count. But I'd need to know what it is to know what kind of setup 1 needs.

@Powawized

Ай бұрын

@@hamitcampos4989you just need an avr with dolby atmos, the latest apple tv 4k and an apple music subscription

It's why I got into this in my film mixing and it's turned into artist projects. I saw this coming back in 2020. Now I have my room I own and it paid for. So happy I did this which is just getting more work in this medium. BTW Dolby used my room for a private event and they dug it.

Really enjoyable interview, well done mate. Props also for often using the open-ended “Can you talk about [X]…” and then sitting back and letting him talk uninterrupted. Rick Beato does this really well, too.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your comment! Means a lot.

Thanks Colt! To anyone pushing back on this, I invite you to come to my next masterclass so I can help give you clarity. And it’s gonna be a fun time! Will post the date soon on my instagram. 🙏

@beckisagod

Жыл бұрын

@mikemillermixes any chance you could do a video course or some other form of knowledge sharing that would be accessible online for overseas people as well? 🤞

@hamitcampos4989

Жыл бұрын

Oh crap! I didn't realize you commented on the vid yourself. Mike if you ever do read this comment as I'm blind I don't use instagram. If you're allowed to and you indeed worked on the full mix for Harry's House can you tell me the max channal count? Especially for As It Was. I'd love to hear it in it's full channal count. Can't get enough of that little ditty. It's got the soft cool chill warm caring gifting quiet jentle little vibes of my 23 year old next door neighbor Ciara. It's got her giggly girlie teanie silly happy bubbly 23 year old girl vibes to it too. As soon as I hear the little intro synth I feel that bubbly smile come on my face I get when ever I'm around Ciara. Even the different layors of the vocals seem to suggest different layors of her vibes. She giggled when I told her about this by the way. I had to as I keep commenting this on every single As It Was vid.

I have Airpod Max’s and I’ve yet to hear a spacial audio / atmos mix that sounds genuinely good to me. It’s all super subjective I suppose but yeah. I’ve also listened to atmos mixes in a couple of 7.1.4 studios and it just does nothing for me. Interesting how it enhances the emotion for some.

@SamHocking

Жыл бұрын

You really have to listen on Android devices to hear the studio Dolby Atmos binaural as the studio heard it. Apple Spatial is only the same as Dolby Atmos on speakers. The headphone experience is very different between Dolby Atmos (Android) and Apple Spatial (iphone etc).

@BR_READDY225

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t sound good..ppl just hype it up.

I enjoy quadrophonic sound, 5.1 audio, Hi-Res Audio… so I’m excited about Atmos for audio. Don’t think I can justify the expense while I’m in a rented home studio though. EDIT: 9.1.4? I have the 2.1, so I guess that means I’d need 11 more speakers. 😮

Thanks for doing this interview and sharing the knowledge! Btw where are the links to the videos mentioned in the interview?

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

I forgot to put it in the description, thanks for the reminder! Here it is below kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIyKtKh9XcWpmLw.html

Great interview :) Very eye opening :) I have been mixing in Atmos for nearly a year and its a big learning curve :( But so worth it once you start to be able to dial in your mix. I have the Focal 9.1.6 now with Trio 6 st twin 6 st and solo 6st and Focal Sub twin and they are awesome speakers :) I am about to rip down studio and do more treatment to the room as feel its not quite there room wise. Keep up the good work Atmos is the future.

Hi Colt, thanks for these very interesting videos. I'm putting together my Atmos studio and I also think that Atmos is going to be the future! Where can I get information for a Master Class with Mike? Thanks again !!

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and for watching! So this particular class was at Sweetwater, so I would sign up for newsletters from Sweetwater, and just keep an eye out on them. I’m not sure if he’s going to do more of these classes, elsewhere, or if they will always be here. I would also follow Mike on Instagram. His Instagram is linked in the description of this video.

Thanks for the video, Colt! It seems to me that Mike wasn't saying where he places things in the space for a reason, but I am really curious about where he places things, especially in comparison to stereo. I've been thinking about building an Atmos rig for a while now. It may just be time.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

It was a bit too complex to get into in the context of an interview. But he did give us permission to discuss and show the things he taught us in the class. Lots of content coming. Thank you for watching!

@vincebyrne

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune Awesome!! That's kinda what I figured and was hoping for! Can't wait to see what you come out with over the next few months! One question I also have is how hardware (like master bus hardware - comp, eq, SPL Big) can be incorporated as that's become a big part of my sound. Thanks for all you do, Colt!

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

All the hardware I currently have will still find its place in Mixing with atmos, even if I don’t use it in the actual Atmos mix. Currently, you have to deliver a stereo master along with the Atmos file. So even if you were only mixing in atmos and using the fold down to submit for stereo, our mix bus chains will still apply to that scenario. Hope that makes sense!

@vincebyrne

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune yeah, that makes sense! Definitely excited to see how you utilize everything!

Disney, Meta and other companies are already scaling down their metaverse budgets because it's not paying off. Customers aren't interested. The metaverse and atmos will not be the future. It's a fad. The only place for atmos will be the cinema, for now and the future.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t surprise me for the meta-verse… I don’t think that was a doable thing, or may be just too many years ahead of its time. As far as Atmos being the future, or not… We will see… I’m betting on exactly the opposite. But only time will tell for sure.

@ILoveTelecasters

Жыл бұрын

The fact that atmos is scalable down to stereo sells it for me. I can totally see a future where atmos is the only mix being done. Consumers can have whatever setup they want and the music will be scaled acordingly

@tetramusicstudio

Жыл бұрын

I LoVe ❤️ Stereo

@bonafontciel

Жыл бұрын

This is actually a good analogy. I can tell you that Meta employees are being forced to spend time in the Metaverse and attend meetings in that environment, but even Meta employees HATE IT! The result is many good engineers being laid off. Atmos is the same trash!

@roryyerama5496

Жыл бұрын

I can see it being amazing for some things but not for all forms music. Consumers continue to choose convenience over quality time and time again and Atmos is the opposite direction of that trend in human behaviour. There is a market for it - the size of that market, who knows? For me - zero interest and I'm not even a "convenience over quality" type consumer.

Thanks for another great video Colt🤘🏻! I do have a question about 7.1.4 and 9.1.4 you guys talk about in this video. What made it obvious for you that you can better go for 9.1.4 than 7.1.4?

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

So there will be videos coming on this soon, but basically the way that Mike looks at the left/right picture, that the sides are the new left and right. That means that the additional two speakers that are the Wides are important to help know exactly what’s happening in the new Left to right spectrum. So in 7.1.4 when you pan, something from the left to the left side, there’s a pretty big gap between those speakers. However, in 9.1.4 when you pan something from the left, to the left wide, to the left side, you’re getting much more accurate information on that paining. And win something that is in the left/right, but you pull it closer to you in the room, its position and volume are much more accurate when you have 9.1.4. Which helps you make a better mix decisions, which helps the mix translate better. I hope that makes sense.

@MaikelRoethof

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune Thanks for the extensive answer! It makes a lot of sense :).

Hi Colt😊 I’m loving your coverage on the Atmos developments; it’s really interesting. I have two questions for you. First, do you know of any good places to get trading info mixibg for Atmos; either online or in pers? Second, I’m building my first studio. With the state of the industry, do you think it would be smarter to get a pair of really top quality stereo monitors, or spend a little extra to convert to a full atmos rig of maybe lesser monitors? Any advice would be much appreciated, and thank you so much for everything you do on here!

Hi Colt, Sean here, Would there be a suggested way of recording bands now for Atmos mix? Like for instance, Formanalog drums, do we use direct mics for the hihat and the ride, and 4 super high (entersandman) Over heads for the .4 and maybe 7 room mics for the space? More power to you and Thanks in advance.

boutta snatch this vt 7. I NEED IT

Soo mind blowing?

What’s stopping someone from making a super small helmet style atmos system for one person to mix with? Like giant headphones?

good stuff pal

I think the next great rock record will be made my an artist or band struggling and fighting for their music and probably without much money will make a record that makes us remember rock and really feel something. And because of that I don't think atmos is necessarily the future

really neat conversion, and i can see how atmos/spacial will become the norm once the technology to play those mixes through headphones gets better… but quite frankly every atmos mix i’ve listened to through headphones just sounds so much less emotional. haven’t listened through a room/speaker setup, i’m sure that’s much cooler, but nobody except the person mixing the track is listening through an atmos mixing rig. really not a fan of how early apple is making these moves, when the technology is still so new and far from perfected

Very interesting thanks ! I feel however confused about the notion of translation in that case. If most listeners are going to be listening on airpods, then the translation to airpods should matter most, since most listeners won't have a proper spatial audio rig. Hence, we should be able to do some of the work, or check our spatial mixes on airpods, at least to some extent, shouldn't we ?

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Most certainly we should check our Patmos mixes in the Apple headphones or earbuds. Because as of right now that’s the most important translation. And everyone that I know that is doing this has a pair of Apple AirPod maxes that they check on before approving the mix.

@hamitcampos4989

Жыл бұрын

I can't fully answer this for you. But what I could say is I think they do have to worry about full speaker count translation as there are people that have big bucks and use things like the Altitude 32 from Trinov to listen to this stuff. I'd be 1 if I had the dough. Not disparaging avrage earbud or blutooth speaker listeners just saying I assume this is why they may care. Cause yes I too was confused about all the room talk. Like first dude I'm not in your room. Next yes like you said your avrage listener may not even care to have a full avr and speakers setup.

Scared about atmos. Ive been saving up for an apollo x8, hearing that I might need a x16 one to be future proof is really annoying. As a 15 year old that entry barrier does impact me alot

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

My honest advice to you as a 15 year old, focus on the basics of engineering and building a business, and getting clients. Even though I firmly believe this is the future, it would be horribly irresponsible of me to encourage a 15-year-old to spend this kind of money. Definitely focus on the basics first.

@theappearedone

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune well ive pretty much got the basics down doing it for 6 years, but ye ill just hope atmos doesn’t take over thaaat soon

We’re all gonna make it

I hear what he's saying, but I'm sitting here shaking my head... there are sound engineers at post production studios in Los Angeles and New York that are some of the most brilliantly amazing talent, and they have been working with ATMOS since its inception - some helped design it. I can't, for the life of me, understand why you're not talking to them - this is nothing new for them - they live, eat, and breath spatial. btw - Great interview, I loved hearing him talk about producers asking how they could go back to their rooms after hearing, and musicians being brought to tears. That's what happens when it's real.

I have only stereo speakers in every listening environment in my home and cars. What Atmos mix can I listen to on those that will change my mind that this is a colossal waste?

Aren't those 6.2s in the background set up backwards?

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

I would advise any up and coming engineer that taking a risk on yourself means making smart decisions for the long haul. Don’t base your moving into atmos because of missed opportunities. If you’ve been successful in the market place and have the cash well take the jump but to up and coming engineers slow and steady wins the race.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

Smart decision making is very important! But equally as important, is taking risk in my opinion. I would have never gotten where I am today if I didn’t take out many loans over the past 20 years building, studios, investing in gear, etc.

@MiguelNoyola1

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune glad it’s worked out for you. On the flip side of that is I’ve been able to save and scale both a home studio that has quite a few pieces debt free and now moving into a Russ Berger Designed room that we recently added some Mm12s all debt free that will eventually house atmos. Yes believe in yourself but do it responsibly. Financial independence is not just about numbers but also creatively not having the stresses to make payroll or take on projects just to hit minimum payments. Again to the guy wanting to make it in the field hard work and steady financial disciplines can get you there.

Is the Ik Multimedia Imersive bundle 11 Speaker package iloud MTM Good. Thoughts??

Question! Where do you think Atmos comes in when youre somewhat of a singer songwrite, im talking just you, a mic and your guitar.

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great question! So every song I’m currently producing, I’m producing for Atmos. So there’s a bunch of different things you could do. Firstly, the more ways you can capture a source the better. If it’s just an acoustic and a vocal, I would likely stereo mic, the acoustic, and then use two spaced pairs for room microphones. One pair behind the player, one in front of the player. And that’s how I would capture a single acoustic guitar for Atmos. I think the creative side of productions, and tracking techniques are going to evolve quickly over the next few years and experimentation will be key.

Would love to see a video from you where you test mixing Atmos in Headphones with the Binaural Rendering and in the end checkhow it translates in a real Atmos room, so we can judge if it's possible for producers and young mixers to make quality Atmos mixes without a 7.1.4 monitor setup!

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea for a video! Currently, I don’t think it’s there yet, but my hope is that one day we will be able to do it only in Headphones

I haven't heard it on a multichannel system yet, I've only heard Atmos on headphones with my Samsung phone that supports it. Atmos sounds really disappointing on headphones and to my ears regular stereo mixes always sound better. Does Atmos sound better on Apple devices than Samsung?

@alexmdegroot

Жыл бұрын

Nope. The Dolby Atmos Renderer has binaural settings that can be used by a mix engineer to achieve a better headphone mix but Apple's proprietary Spatial Audio codec completely ignores those settings resulting in inferior translation of the original Atmos mix. There's definitely potential for Atmos to sound good in headphones, but it has a long way to go.

It must be good mixing in Dolby Atmos and the big studios seem to be pining because you may have to go to them for big mixes. But the way how the world is today is you can have templates in your door like Pro Tools template, Logic template, Ableton template, Studio One template, FL template where you can press a button and with AI can put the sounds where you want in a single click. Then it opens the floodgate for small studios to take ADVANTAGE of Dolby Atmos and everyone can eat again :)

so at the end of the day how much is it going to cost to dive into 9.1.4?

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

The cost for a set up is the biggest variance of anything we have seen in the industry to date. I haven’t actually run the numbers, but it seems with more entry-level speakers, and the most affordable interface options you are well under $10,000. Not that $10,000 is a small amount of money by any means, but it is attainable for anyone who is a professional and taking their music career seriously.

@thesideyardstudio

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune yes I came up with a similar number. In my personal case scenario Im not afraid to invest properly but I can't seem to find the info I need :( like I work currently with a lynx aurora with is essentially useless in this investment as well as my focal trios...... Im really unsure about where to turn on all this.... have any Dolby contacts that can help get a realistic quote for all this? thanx for all you're input. Alll you're vids since day 1 have been appreciated and enjoyed cheers colt!!!

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the kind words! So, the next video in this Atmos series will be going over the requirements that Dolby wants you to have, and that should help a lot of people choose the rig. I’ve got a lot of research to do between now, and that video though, so I don’t want to speak to it too much right now.

No wonder he's doing so well, he's got The One Ring literally hanging off his neck.

Is there any reliable data for where the money currently is in Atmos? Retailers, manufacturers, distribution, Producers, Artists? Who's making the most right now?

@palmal3542

Жыл бұрын

E.g. I make music for TV ads in the UK...there is zero requirement for Atmos...i.e. no market at all.

Can we get an actual Atmos mixing video with him ??

Reference in atmos is very easy just reverse the signal from a home player into your system inputs and play thm through your studio speakers and the mute any of the channels or the our puts yes there will be some light bleeding but never the less you will get it 🎉 happy spending your money

Can you please explain why it’s necessary to have channels that the majority of consumers will not have access to? I could see convincing consumers to add 2 more speakers behind them at most, but most of this is likely going to be consumed on airpods. That means two channels of audio going into two ear holes. So why can’t this be achieved on 2 speakers or 4 or even 8 at most?? Not talking about cinema/theater environments.

@WatisYouth

Жыл бұрын

@@gkmixing I totaly understand the reason for the format and roughly how object-based mixing works. Here’s what Im wondering; Why is Colt advocating for a large and expensive setup when its all going to be folded down to stereo? If the consumer is listening in stereo, then why cant we mix in quad or even 8 channels? It doesnt make any sense to me to have a rig that expensive when the vast majority of people even consuming this are going to be doing so on airpods. Looking for something more attainable here. Not someone just saying “oh noo you GOTTA have the full rig” Explain to me why.

He said if you're mixing in headphones, they won't translate and will have to be redone. Have you tried it and listened back in an Atmos studio or on Spatial Audio headphones (earbuds) to see if it translates? Or do you know of others who've tried? Also, for those who aren't on an award winning level, shouldn't the Atmos headphone (binaural) stereo mixdown still sound better than a regular stereo mix? And do you think someone will find a way (or Apple will make it possible) to mix directly into their Spatial Audio format rather than them having to modify the Atmos format. Maybe Atmos can modify the Spatial Audio format as well; once other headphone manufacturers get the tech, the price drops, and more people start consuming SA media through headphones than on speakers.

@SamHocking

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we are ever likely to see mass global adoption of an Atmos speaker setup for translation to ultimately affect the bottom dollar or mixing Atmos. Studios love to talk about translation and that of course matters in their own space, but theres no translation from 9.1.4 speaker system to 2.0 headphones so for 99% of artists all that matters is headphones because hardly anyone has a system capable of mistranslating a 9.1.4 mixed song anyway. At best most Atmos devices are variations on 2.1 and 5.1 like soundbar and TVs . To put in perspective there are only 20 million Atmos sound bars globally. So insignificant Netflix dont even acknowledge Atmos speaker users as even a growing market beyond what they experience with surround growth. Still, nobody knows what will happen in the future, but I dont think its likely the planet will change buying habits and suddenly be running 9.1.4 speakers. A soundbar at best. The car could be an interesting growth though but I cant believe a car Atmos system can translate a studio anyway.

An atmos mix folded to stereo is just DSP/FX...why not use this to make stereo mixes better....is the Atmos part a red herring?

I have followed and enjoyed every multi speaker system since mono! The one thing that has killed most of them multiple/incompatible formats. I hope Apple doesn’t break Atmos, by refusing to use the Atmos format for their ear buds!🤔

#ATMOSKING

OR, just spitballing here, maybe his mixes sound good because he sends EVERY single track out to arguably the world's finest hardware pre, eq, compressor and converter chain before he even touches a fader lol. I'm no Alan Parsons or CLA, but if I had the time/means to send every single track out through a Hazelrigg/Fearn stack to be perfectly eq'd and compressed before I opened a session, I probably wouldn't need many plugins either!! Lol c'mon man.

@DONKEYFORRENT

Жыл бұрын

There is surely no doubt that getting great sounds makes mixing easier.

Oh wowzers so Mike perhaps did mix As It Was. George if you do see this Instagram isn't too accessible for the blind. Could you some how ask him if he's allowed to say how many stems there actually are? I'd love to hear As It Was in it's full max channal count. Love that little ditty. Has all the soft warm jentle chill cool about things kind caring gifting little vibes of my 23 year old next door neighbor Ciara. It's also got her teanie bubbly giggly silly girlie little 23 year old girl vibes to it too. For me it's practically her theme. I've heard stems on KZread I have no idea how people have gotten but those seem to suggest I'd need an Onkyo TX RZ 50 as it seems it's 5.1.4. Could you varify this?

Everyone is talking about mixing in atmos.. But how the heck do i master a atmos mix? Do i need aswell a trillion mastering monitors or what..? And how do i limit that thing..? My limiter has a stereo link.. i mean lol..?

I thought it said Mac Miller at first 😂

I thought this guy was going to mix up some harry styles 😂

Goodbye to stereo imaging

The more I think about this atmos move, the more I have the feeling this is a push back from the "high value" music industry to take back their market share from the independents. I don't believe atmos will be big like stereo, because you can only have an atmos setup at home, not on the road where most listen to music and not everyone is cares about atmos, the music world is tooooo BIG. This might just be a move, you are either in it or you can no longer release your music on the big platforms, so a lot of independents, beginners, bedroom producers/mix engineers will loose out because they can not afford it. Mixing in atmos will eventually become very expensive. It's like the vinyl pressing industrie, big labels bought up months in advanced pressing time, so small labels have to wait 6 months or more to press their records. Luckily here in EU, there are now a vinyl presses that only works with small independent labels. The same might happen with independents in the music industrie. Someone might want to start a new platform where all independents and independent labels can unite in streaming and selling stereo music.

He never directly answered the question to the bedroom producer., but what I've gathered from this is that you can pretty much forget about doing your own mixes. For starters, it's going to cost north of $10k for monitors and probably a new interface; you can't do it on headphones; you're going to need to spend money on treating your room (and you'll have to take the bed and dresser out of the room). Essentially, you'll have to hire someone who has an Atmos room to do your mixing for you. This is also going to be a problem for studios that are set up with a studio/control room configuration, because you're going to have to put a center speaker in front of the window between the rooms.

@keywestjimmy

3 ай бұрын

You can mix in headphones. The logic goes like this: if mixed on headphones, it sounds better on headphones. (This maxim is even true with stereo headphone mixing.) Especially since very very few will ever listen to Atmos with a 9.1.4 speakers set up. Atmos in cars will always be problematic: Atmos has a sweet-spot and all seating positions are out of position.

@keywestjimmy

3 ай бұрын

You can mix in headphones. The logic goes like this: if mixed on headphones, it sounds better on headphones. (This maxim is even true with stereo headphone mixing.) Especially since very very few will ever listen to Atmos with a 9.1.4 speakers set up. Atmos in cars will always be problematic: Atmos has a sweet-spot and all seating positions are out of position.

How much of this for the majority is an Apple thing? In the UK a minority have iPhones or Beats, let alone Atmos capable Soundbar. Why are we producing for a minority experience?

Normal users don’t care about immersive, normal users don’t need a €800 headphone, with a €160 EarPod they are good. It’s like saying that 3D movies or 3D home theatres are still in use 😂

Honestly not a fan of atmos. I keep trying to convince myself it’s better. Using the harry styles album as comparison, turning atmos on and off in settings, from a consumer perspective with AirPods not only does it get much quieter but when you raise it to be the same volume as the stereo the vocals always feel buried. You can definitely feel the extra space which is cool at times but the mix still seems dull in comparison with the stereo. Am I missing something

Ahhhhh, you missed your opportunity when intro-ing him “his atmos class was ATMOSLUTELY incredible”….. see what i did there 😅 jk

Harry being a terrible singer I really want to know more from his recording engineer , I know Justin Timberlake vocal layers are like 70 tracks , how about Harry ?

@ColtCapperrune

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard that he’s a terrible singer from anyone before… But I would imagine on most of those big pop sessions, the quantity of vocal takes is pretty extreme

@svengali5862

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtCapperrune Watched him live , his performance was not that great to say the least , that's just my opinion

Loved the video...but the end part is wishful thinking. The data tells you that most people have mono Bluetooth speakers and most people own android phones (70% vs apple 30%). Love the tech...but careful with the hype!

No Atmos content please

Atmos still doesn’t make any sense imo … there’s no way you can get a good atmos mix without first making a good stereo mix and printing stems to then go back and make a atmos mix. atmos mixing will become viable when you START your mix from the production session, mix in atmos, and your stereo fold down from that is a banging stereo mix (no one has done this yet) …it’s easy for the stereo fold down to sound better when you started from great stereo stems … the whole shit is ass backwards right now … and on top of that zero artists care about these atmos mixes … they’re usually handed off to a third party mixer and not even checked. Also 99.9% of end users will listen on a atmos system … so what’s the point ?

@mikemillermixes

Жыл бұрын

All of this is incorrect to be completely honest. If you are interested in experiencing the complete opposite. We will have a new master class in the coming months and I can show you how to do all these things. 🙏

I think people have shown Atmos isn’t needed it’s a gimmick for Apple Music at this point

This guy click baiting us to watch atmos stuff and future proof his channel with atmos content is ridiculous. I am unsubscribing. Also Atmos is a step back musically . Sad to see the industry promote such a sub standard way of listening to music just for fame and money !

@Oakwoodrecords

Жыл бұрын

Right. It’s hella pretentious. It’s like how about we get back to focusing on making music that doesn’t all sound the same first lol

@the.wavproject

Жыл бұрын

@@Oakwoodrecords Amen to that !!

@andrewlepard1217

Жыл бұрын

Go listen to that Harry Styles album in Atmos with AirPods Pro and tell me it isn’t the future.

@markwatson1497

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlepard1217ok I just did. Sure - when you go to “Settings” and turn Atmos on/off - you hear a difference. And of course it sounds better when the Atmos is on. But I don’t hear anything that you couldn’t do in a stereo mix if you were just working with 2 speakers from the jump.

@aemaury

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlepard1217 sounds like a different stereo mix

atmos the new industry gatekeeping. phuc that 🗑️