Hm... to bad this rivalry is coming to an end. I think these cars need to coexist in order to push each other toward greatness.

@beautifulbeaner

2 жыл бұрын

hard to coexist when you are so much better

@simonrobertson6436

2 жыл бұрын

@@beautifulbeaner Well Subaru just killed off the STI

@DrLongSchIong

Жыл бұрын

@@beautifulbeanerehh one is faster certainly but one lasted 11 years longer I would say rather than rivals, they’re two sides of the same coin

@LitoEvo

3 ай бұрын

We had 3 subaru, 4 evo, 2 ford sti, 2 civic, 1 911 on 5 outings over yorkshire dales, 2 of 3 subaru went home on flat beds, all others came home begging for more, never buy a subaru !

TBH, i believe that Evo have always been fast than Subaru's and even experienced drivers admit that they are.

@artilleryisbetter

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Inline-4 has better performance compared to boxer-4.

@CuckBalls

2 жыл бұрын

This is just like mustang vs Camaro and I feel the same for both. The wrx and mustang are catered toward the street. Evo and camaro/firebird are more focused on track.

@BaddaBigBoom

2 жыл бұрын

The main problem with Evo fans is their use of the greengrocer's apostrophe ;-)

@skgamer-vb4ls

2 жыл бұрын

@@artilleryisbetter could you tell me, What has the engine layout do with driving dynamics in a corner ?. The boxer4 has even lower center of gravity.

@driftliketokyo34ftw35

Жыл бұрын

If only they would fucking make them again!

The under-steer on that Subaru was insane!!!

i think both cars are a work of beauty, but the evo 8 is a beautiful beast flexing its muscles

That's why I have the mans car ;) Love the Evo 8!

@mikhail6746

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, how is the Lancer Evo 8 following 10 years?

It says "Mitsubishi Evo 8 Review" Shows a subie in the thumbnail

@maskawathrasha485

3 жыл бұрын

you were funny 2 years ago

@sukhdevr3489

2 жыл бұрын

@@maskawathrasha485 Still funny now.

@HowDoIPlayAgain

3 ай бұрын

Still funny now.​@@maskawathrasha485

Why is Mitsubishi so shit at making every other car when their Lancer Evos have been so great?

@matthepworth5035

5 жыл бұрын

Mistubishi Legnum, GTO, FTO ??

@matthepworth5035

5 жыл бұрын

Not to disrespect the Subaru Legacy, and their Isuzu amd Komatsu X Big respect to Japanese

@camillosteuss

4 жыл бұрын

They arent, they make them so on purpose as to get people to buy evo's because they know that speed is the only important thing in a car... There are other tidbits but speed is n1(that includes handling as with poor handling there is no speed) with comfort breathing down its neck in n2...

@user-ws3sl9xi7y

4 жыл бұрын

Because the Evos hog all of it. Basic math dude come on now.

@ttakiari6820

3 жыл бұрын

Cyborgs.

I want to hug my EVO right now....im so proud of you :)

regards to the butthurt subie fans. I noticed that alot of you are saying that the subie is a better rally car buuuutttt lets face it if you owned one your probably not going to use it for rally.

@rusuovidiu10

9 жыл бұрын

Probably not going to use it at all!! :p :p FORZA MITSUBISHI!!

@unknownally

9 жыл бұрын

That's not true, most Subie guys go to the mud and snow. It's all over KZread. One reason it sucks it buy a used Subie, however.

@chejiyo69

7 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say that most Subaru owners like my friends put 18 inch wheels on them, it's a damm shame.

@optimuschrist15

6 жыл бұрын

Zeus WRX yes because the evos always breakdown or in an accident out for the whole tournament :( I don't know why we are arguing about this I love both cars 👍🏼😉

@tacklefatkids

6 жыл бұрын

Zeus WRX learn to count you moron. Mitsubishi won 4 wrc championships in a row with tommi makinen. You're just like every subie owner never rally in the car always afraid to do some real mods.

I like STI's a lot, but it seems to me that EVERYONE has one... Kinda played in my opinion (I know as if anyone asked for my opinion...) After a year of debating and saving $, I think I've finally decided to go with the Evo... More unique and from what I hear better overall... Im not writing this to get anyone riled up for any reason... and YES I know they each have their perks... just Evos seem to have more.

I dnt care what they say about evos’s atleast changing spark plug’s easy on them 😂

It's a Mitsubishi. They hold together pretty well. Sadly, because it is such an awesome car, and really cheap for what you get, they often end up with owners that give them a good trashing. Either way, well worth it as a daily drive if you ask me.

The Subaru doesn't use a computer driven differential, it's mechanical. The transmission sits closer to the driver and rear differential distributing the weight better. The axles are more equal lengths, therefore more grip on rally courses and less tq steer. This is what's great about symmetrical AWD. You're supposed to dive the nose in to compensate for the under steer. That's how you drive a Subie. Watch WRC and see for yourself.

@unknownally

9 жыл бұрын

Update: that's how you drive in Rally. Tarmac you would have to try not to brake hard, so the load doesn't go too far to the front wheels, or throttle too much so the load doesn't go to far to the rear wheels. Basically, you have to keep the car balanced.

@Simon74

7 жыл бұрын

Right, both of these cars aren't made of a wide open track like this one.

@MichaelSeeds

6 жыл бұрын

not all sti's understeer. not like this anyway. I think the wr1 had aggressive rear wheel camber which causes understeer

@radityaindera3442

6 жыл бұрын

unknownally Yeahyeahyeah keep talking m8. Its rubbish

@idontlikecops1

6 жыл бұрын

unknownally doesn't matter. Point is Subaru is SLOWER

Love both of these cars. Stiffer rear sway bars and you're in for a good time!

Jeremy: The Stig got one of his rare utrons as he said that the Subaru was a good boys car but that, the Mitsubishi is a mans car!" hahahhaa omg enough said.

Love the Evo!

EVO SMASHES ANYTHING ANYWHERE ANYTIME ANYHOW

@installshieldwizard3017

3 жыл бұрын

you sound like a fanboy

@jackscarratt6440

3 жыл бұрын

@@installshieldwizard3017 I own one, it does not smash anything anywhere anytime, especially in 2020. But it gets more looks than anything anywhere anytime XD

@TheSloganOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Scarratt There’s the answer I was looking for 👌🏼

@amonguslover7043

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackscarratt6440 is it stock?

Evo, baby. All day.

evo rules best rally car ever

I have an STI but EVO's are just awesome on track.

I think the Subaru sounds better(love the deep rumble it gets from a measly 4 cilinder). The evo is faster, but that's mainly technology doing that. You are right on a matter of tastes.

I would love to see this two monsters came back as good or better than they were and smashing the competence as usual for just a fraction the price😎👌

@sukhdevr3489

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is they would look like monsters like most manufacturers who are running their models.

Evo's are the daddy

My friend has a 12.7 EVO just from 25lbs of boost. Feels like you're in a damn rocket.

Both are awesome!

Evo's have always been more nimble and faster... they're good cars to autocross...however i prefer the sti because not only are they also fun to autocross but because they're a better "daily driver".

That what good handing can do to a lap time. The Evo 8 has great control around the corners.

As a WRX owner, i'd rather have an EVO for a track car, and an STI for a daily

LOL look at the guy in the orange shirt to the bottom right at 0:45 just as hammond says "the stig"!!! XD btw the evo viii is immense!

evo for life

It's over...evo won

@wassili7210

4 жыл бұрын

It's over... Subie win

@starburststudios9260

4 жыл бұрын

Wassili Owari Da... Mitsubishi won

@wassili7210

4 жыл бұрын

@@starburststudios9260 Mitzubischi died 🤣 and donat media said... Subie is better 🤣

@starburststudios9260

4 жыл бұрын

Wassili Sure...

@sukhdevr3489

4 жыл бұрын

@@wassili7210 Evo is much better.

Mitsubishi is perfect for the track and speed, but the Subaru is perfect for the way home and driving everyday. That's my opinion.

@tuck234

10 жыл бұрын

Hmm... Interesting opinion, but an opinion none the less. I consider the Subaru more of the car that is used to driving tough terrain like most rally circuits than your typical urban sedan. But if you mean in general, then... Not quite. Both have plenty of models for you typical day-to-day driving, even standard models of the Lancer and Impreza.

@killerconsoles517

10 жыл бұрын

tuck234 . Alot of people have that opinion,evo better on the track,subaru for the road.

@oldfashionedwrx3574

10 жыл бұрын

tuck234 subaru is better off road, bumpy roads etc it aint no daily

@youtubeaccountlol4942

6 жыл бұрын

as a Subaru owner, it's a daily and I'd trade it for an evo in a heartbeat

Evo is the better car

I still love my evo8

I really want to see the Lancer Evo back. Along with the WRX, It was a fast, practical car that defined an era. But if they're thinking about bringing it back as an SUV, I'd rather have it stay dead.

i new evos were beast.

got to love the evo especially the evo8..... stuff

"The Subaru is a good boys car, but that the mitsubishi is A MAN'S CAR". - The Stig

They are both very good cars. It comes down to which style and make you like better. BTW, 04-07 are the best. The new EVO and STI just not the same.

i like the way evos look over the sti, still both look good, and are faster than a 360 spider, top gear did a test on that too :)

@mastersusaf No worries, glad to help! I agree with you that the world needs more options for rally-inspired awd street cars though.

evo forever

Evo VIII is the bast car ever made

very well said... couldnt agree with you more.. i love evo's more, but for a daily driver sti

helll yeahh thank u for clearing that up =]]

Love them both

Evo 7 or 8 above any other car

The sti was slower because it was driving over all the oil drips left behind by the EVO lol just kidding, great comparo I would chose the EVO except here in Australia they are a bit of a worry with insurance and trade in, most car dealers wont touch any imports when you are ready to trade in, so instead I have an 04 STI I would swap subies rumble engine for the spine tingling EVO engine though just sounds much better imho

watching this video in 2021 it's still reverent

@DrewBurton you should easily be able to fit comfortably, Im 6'1 and have about 3 inches headroom and another 2 inches if i move the seat all the way back. Try driving an Rx7 FD or Mx5 NA they both have small interiors. They are not too bad to work on, I took my Intake manifold off in about 20mins working very slowly.

I Love my Evo

I agree, I love Mitsubishi

from my experience i own a prodrive & fq300 both rhd both mostly stock both have ewg id say the prodrive is quicker 0-120km but the evo definitely picks up at 120+ id trust the subaru around the corners, evos are more reliable

why is it so fast ? I know its AWD, but are the factory tires insane? are the brakes crazy ?

@sukhdevr3489

4 жыл бұрын

Sick brakes, handling

The EVO looks badass

I bath in the tears of Subaru fanboys.

@AusGuerin You're right, the Evo 8 came out in 2003, and was replaced by the Evo 9 in 2006.

@JohnSlonakiller Thanks for the info John, after you posted this i looked into it, and i can agree that this is a biased comparison. I think there both amazing :) i wish more competitors would get into this awd rally battle. again thanks for answering my question !

The fact is I love them both. The new ones just not the same.

I love the VIII.

I like both but I would take the Subaru because I grew up with it. It is very comfortable! Even with a family of 5. :)

❤❤keep up the good work❤❤

They compared the sti to the FQ320. You can't get this in the us. Let's see this again with same tire and spec

@bbqBaconNinja

10 жыл бұрын

It was still slower than the old FQ300 though.

@9kalltheway

10 жыл бұрын

I find this hard to believe. but im sure your right! I think they post times on top gear that isnt accurate to help companies sell cars. No offence to mitsubishi but have you seen any cars there making or selling? there only hit is the evo. I used to own a DSM my self. so no hating here.

@coopsnz1

7 жыл бұрын

Can't in Australia either . The built for uk market

@coopsnz1

7 жыл бұрын

FQ aren't built for Japanese market

@sukhdevr3489

4 жыл бұрын

@@9kalltheway hater

EVO!!!

Evo!!!

Neat thing about subarus is that they will naturally oversteer on everything besides dry pavements. Dry pavements give it under steer, but it's manageable. Wet pavement can cause a lot of sudden understeer at low speed sharp corners in my car.

@g00mba00 it depends on whether its a evo 8 MR and which MR it is, cause it comes in the fq300/fq320/fq350/fq400 which are referring to its HP. And i think the STi's can come in a 2.0L or 2.5L engine

I remember one day when I was driving home from Michigan I followed a sick Evo VIII down the highway... I remember, its plate was EVIIIL. He started going too fast for me so I let him go. I finally caught up to him when he was pulled over on the shoulder by an unmarked cop SUV. Poor guy.

@omid11 So where did you get dodge from?

that evo is actually slower version of evo 8. it has 320 hp. there is an 400 hp version of evo 8 :) so stop whining

Mit Evo ftw

That's funny they made such an effort to develop this strange engine but despite its all "advantages" evo with "normal" 4 cylinder engine handled better

@Craig_whyte

3 ай бұрын

Its all urban myths, the subaru engine is mounted too far forward and is actually mounted really high. Even the best Subaru’s understeer as a result unless they have had the engine moved back or run electronically controlled diffs like the rally cars

Evolution!!

What color impreza is that. Although im a Evo fan, I gotta give credit when a company does a good paint job.

@ninaz8996

6 жыл бұрын

Lancer Mafia evo fan too here. I know that Subaru has tonnes of names for a same colour and only the most loyal subarists can pass the colour exam.

@lancermafia1982

6 жыл бұрын

Nina Z The color reminds me of my old Game Boy Advanced SP I had as a kid. I still remember that GBA color, Pearl Blue.

@sukhdevr3489

4 жыл бұрын

Ice cold blue

understeer is when the front wheels have less traction than the rear and cause the car to not be able to follow the line through the corner, and oversteer is when the rear tires cannot follow the path of the front tires and it throws the rear to the outside of the corner

watching this after the A Scandi Flick

@TheGtracer1994 I consider the last evo to be the ix.

I agree with the evo

are they ? using a fq evo vs normal sti? or do i need to go to sleep already

both are good

@___kayed

Жыл бұрын

Evo better

not to mention the evos engine has way more potential than the subarus 2.5litre flat4. even when tuned to only 360hp they dont even last 100'000km's.

@MichaelSeeds

6 жыл бұрын

ej207

they r both 2 great cars

Both of these cars kick ass

evo ftw

Only reason Scubadoo has more wrc wins is because Subaru has its own race team. Mitsubishi pulled out in the mid 90's

what is understeer and oversteer?

I have the same marker that he uses at 1:37 lol XD

The debate is over, Evo FTW.

Evo Evo EVO!!

i would say for track i'll have evo. but for daily use i'll have sti so i love both but i have sti and i love it

@JohnSlonakiller sorry if this is noobish, what is a one-off model?

@0OXFOREVERO0 where could i find a evo 8 and how much is the price atm?

Evo!!

i bet Hammond prefer the Impreza. He loved the one he used for the 2012 Africa Special

Evo pride baby.

not realy evo beats sti on tarmac,gravel,and snow :3

Subaru is a boys car but Mitsubishi is a MANS car......(enough said)

the 4g63 handles more boost because it is an iron block, the sti uses a aluminium block, which creates better handling as the nose is lighter where the evolution is more nose heavier. an iron block is the engine you want for a lot of boost, the 2jz is an iron block, none of the boxer engines came as an iron block. the evolution is easier to drive.. I've seen too many rally sprints, tarmac rallies and neither is superior

EVO ALLL THE WAYYYY

EVO RULES!!!!!!