I'm not sure why people are surprised when APCs fare poorly against anti-tank weapons. They are made to defeat much heavier armor systems. It seems silly to even mention it. Yet here we are.

@krellio9006

11 ай бұрын

now its unacceptable, back then these things are supposed to protect against artillery Sharpnels and small Caliber firearms

@rwaitt14153

11 ай бұрын

@@krellio9006 Not many new IFV/APCs can take a tank main gun sabot round or ATGM or AT mine on the chin either. The Nammer maybe? But it is in sort of a class of it's own and is way less mobile than lighter systems. Sort of a tailor-made heavy APC special doctrine dealie for the IDF.

@hypernova3527

11 ай бұрын

You know, that's what happens when an anti-TANK weapon is used against a lighter vehicle. It sounds silly to point out how an APC from the 60's is vulnerable to them.

@krellio9006

11 ай бұрын

@@rwaitt14153 Puma IFV and Namer are rated against 3BM22 from 125mm gun at 1000-2000m depending on angle of the vehicle

@X.Y.Z.07

11 ай бұрын

​@@krellio9006because Namer have their own specification, it's a HAPC. H for heavy.. Was designed to be more survivable in urban areas..

To be honest ,we never had a problem with it. I served for 3 years in it and it never broke down with trained driver. It is good and reliable machine ,somewhat outdated at that time ,but we can say that for all machines entering combat nowadays.

@dzordzstiven8008

11 ай бұрын

De sfrj hiiiii

@DASSTADT

11 ай бұрын

Where did you serve?

@nomadicartsarchery268

11 ай бұрын

@DASSTADT what is now northern Dalmatia. Brutal terrain for tracks. But it did good job.

@crito3534

25 күн бұрын

These internet "military analysts" always come with come arbitrary reliability issue to put down a vehicle they don't have enough information.

Ok, the *PZ. III MOCK TURRET* is one of the coolest things ive seen on the internet! That green color is nothing like ive seen depicted!

These APC’s were actually pretty good. They were used extensively in the wars in the 90’s. And did great for recovery vehicles or infantry support

So it was good for movie props. Kelly's Heroes was filmed in Yugoslavia and T 34 tanks were modified by Yugoslavian's to look like Tiger tanks.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

We know, we did a video on that :D

Will you cover its successor, the BVP M-80

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

One day, one day

From what I've heard, this vehicle did have reliability issues, but it wasn't that bad if you had well trained drivers. Trouble was, there weren't many of these, as the training system for the drivers in JNA was quite strange...Up to the '70s there was general "tracked vehicle driver" course (my late grandfather completed it) and one was often transfered between vehicles, so not much experience could be achieved on a single vehicle type.

This vehicle's written article was very helpful as I was doing research for a project of mine. Keep up the great work!

Can't wait for a BOV M-80 video

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

One day, one day.

@kleemann2068

8 ай бұрын

BVP M-80 (Borbeno Vozilo Pešadije)- Infantry Fighting Vehicle. BOV M-86 (Borbeno Oklopno Vozilo)- Fighting Armored Vehicle

In serviceman jargon it had the loving nickname of "trashcan" and "peglica". The latter comparing it to the anemic fiat 126 of questionable build quality. Or maybe it's because it looked like a "peglica" which is a steam iron. Probably a little bit of both 😅

@monsterbnt

11 ай бұрын

Mi smo ih zvali ''kokoska'' 🤣🤣

Since it was put into production before most of its problems were solved it’s understandable that it had problems. I wonder why the power train of a previously successful tank wasn’t used while lengthening the body to carry more troops? Didn’t Yugoslavia have too much surplus equipment by war’s end?

The real problems are when officers try to employ APCs as tanks.

The early German panzer offensives wre largely supported by moterized infantry and the mechaized infantry were always the minority in Panzer units.

Audio way too low

Do second part for T-62 please.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

Next week.

@w0lfgm

Жыл бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT thanks, looking forward.

Sounds like a Yugo HS-30🤔

16:04 the Croatian flag on the turret is incorrect. The NDH flag 1941-1945 had a white square on the top left. edit: the current flag has a red square on the top left

@Humbulla93

11 ай бұрын

it is the correct banner, though the 5 regions are missing, the one of NDH sharpens toward the bottom

@timhorton698

11 ай бұрын

@@Humbulla93 the grb itself has nothing to do with the 5 regions. All Croatian fascist flags have a white square on the top left.

@timhorton698

11 ай бұрын

@@Humbulla93also the shape of the grb has nothing to do with the issue of it being fascist or non fascist. It is ALWAYS the colour of the TOP LEFT SQUARE kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yn2G09qQgtnJmNY.html

The mock turret is NOT meant to be a Pz 3, it's clearly a Pz 4.

@guameldestruir6239

Жыл бұрын

look at a Pz 4 and a Pz 3 also considering the Pz 4 was never (to my knowledge) equipped with the 50cm cannon i can guarantee its meant to be a mock Pz III

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

One was tested with a 5cm gun.

@andrewstrongman305

Жыл бұрын

@@guameldestruir6239 The big giveaway is the bulge under the commander's cupola, which was never a feature in the Pz 3. Given the small turret it's possible that the gun is a half-arsed attempt at an early Pz 4's 75mm. Given the chassis they chose, it's a pretty decent frankenpanzer.

@andrewstrongman305

Жыл бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT The plan was to fit the Ausf F with a 50mm gun, but Rheinmetall's new 75mm gun was decided upon.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

@andrewstrongman305 , we know, we're the Tank Encyclopedia :D tanks-encyclopedia.com/panzerkampfwagen-iv-ausfuhrung-d-mit-5-cm-kwk-39-l-60/

If APC's had the armour protection of MBT's, then the enemy is just gonna use bigger weapons to tackle them, nothing is invincible in the field, I think Yugoslavian military overestimated, sort of like the US army did with the Bradley.

Well this M60 seems to beat the Italian tanks of the WWII. The Yugoslav constructors should have tried to make a single engine prop fighter to function as the B29 bomber.

H ausgezeichnet!

Baby panzer 3 is best panzer 3

I mean, for the average JNA infantryman possibly thrown into WW3, or for anyone from any side of the Yugoslav Wars, I guess it was better to be inside this thing than being shot at in an open field 😅

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

6 ай бұрын

*when it worked

A apc that the mexican military should have adopted

The music is a major distraction :(

They Yugo APC "MEEP, MEEP"

The only thing that can be done with that vehicle is to send it to Ukraine as a replacement for something much smarter.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Жыл бұрын

Most of them are long scrapped.

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@comentedonakeyboard

Жыл бұрын

Fourth

Man Philippine APC project put this shame to this project

Imagine if all the moron armies and the 50s and 60s and 70s would have realized hey if we don't spend any money at all it's going to be just fine.... 😂😂😂😂

@noscopesallowed8128

10 ай бұрын

Well for the smaller countries maybe that could have worked, but for literally anybody else, not spending that money meant they would have missed out on decades of development and research and would be hopelessly out of date today. And in the case of America specifically, spending as much money as we did was a major contributor to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Remember that even Switzerland sees the need for a standing army.

@1joshjosh1

10 ай бұрын

@@noscopesallowed8128 Yeah I know you were right. Because we are still stupid humans there has to be a balance of power

to je dobar oklop, bolji od odlaska na pijesak i kamenovanja i ubijanja, nije napravljen za artiljeriju velikog kalibra jer se u to vrijeme nije ni koristio kao u modernim ratovima, imao sam priliku voziti se u njemu tijekom sukoba u bivšoj Jugoslaviji, koji je uništio i podijelio fašistički NATO pakt, kao što je isto učinio Ukrajini i Rusiji

They would have been better off buying the FV432 from Britain

@lisandro2485

11 ай бұрын

A NATO vehicle in Yugoslavia?? 😂

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

11 ай бұрын

Why not? They had Shermans, M36s, Hellcats, Pattons

@lisandro2485

11 ай бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT but those were "lend and lease" vehicles... It was before the cold war.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

11 ай бұрын

@@lisandro2485 No they were not, they were sent under the MAP after the war tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-yugoslavia-90mm-gmc-m36-jackson-in-yugoslavian-service/

@maestrosrb2523

11 ай бұрын

​@@lisandro2485 Just google Tito said NO to Stalin or google the map of Warsaw Pact... Also go down the rabbit hole of Unaligned movement. Yugoslavia was never a puppet state of USSR.

OH YEAHHH I LOVE THIS PIECE OF TRASH

BVP M-80 wasn't (and isn't) much better, either. That thing is also awful!

holy shit communist m113

Like most of original "yugoslavian" products it was a ridiculosly expensive piece of crap.

Ti ja dam paramilitar.......

15:58 so it has some use after all

No wonder their car is that bad

@markopantelic3088

Жыл бұрын

How can you say that! I had a Yugo car it worked, most of the time. On the highway, it could reach a speed of up to 90 km/h before starting shaking as crazy. And lastly, you can (in theory) put it in reverse :D

@overcats5539

Жыл бұрын

@@markopantelic3088 nah, I've just talking about the stereotipe, but grest to hear that

@markopantelic3088

Жыл бұрын

@@overcats5539 I supposed that, but we can joke a little :D

Just BS...

Yugoslavia really had a bad military industry.

@sjoormen1

Жыл бұрын

it was good enough for keeping peace for 45 years...

@ravenouself4181

Жыл бұрын

It was it's first APC, of course it wasn't to be good. Compared to the first APC's of other countries - it was not half bad. it got it right the second time around with the M-80. idk how that is a bad industry.

@_1389_

Жыл бұрын

All of it's contemporary designs are POS as well.

@alek9195

Жыл бұрын

@@vorda400 What genocide.

@alek9195

Жыл бұрын

@@sjoormen1 You think this piece of trash kept the peace lol.

Can you make a video about m80?