*slaps top of freelancer* This baby can do so many cargo runs!

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I do feel like 120 SCU is very reasonable!

@adamjohnson2961

2 жыл бұрын

Ah you have invoked the spirit of The Venerable Used Car Salesman. Black haired and showing signs of male pattern balding, cheap shades resting over a permanent 5oclock shadow, one golden damned tooth that continually reflects the light of the sun into only one of your eyes and never both. He sports a Hawaiian vacation shirt stolen from his brother and a Styrofoam coffee cup with just enough burboun in it to catch your attention and a dirty gold chain only slightly tangled in overgrown chest hair. All these warning signs on display like the plumage of a friggin parrot and I will still pay this guy too much money for whichever car he slaps the top of.

@MalfunctioningAndroid

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamjohnson2961 it’s the real mileage, I swear.

The MAX is futureproof because it's that old beat-up pickup truck that is too old to die and drives like a boat, but somehow you always end up driving it because the fancy electronics in your new one are always on the fritz.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I can go with that - I think this ship will always be useful.

@hazardhelion3610

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that brother! Lookin to get myself one.

@rixxy9204

3 ай бұрын

Just a heads-up that with the new manual loading Cargo gameplay, its nice to have the extra crew to do the work

The Max is such a solid ship. It was my main flyer for over a year. 2 things to keep in mind: supposedly the biggest ship to use small jump points. A) This girl is going to have trade routes bigger ships don't. B) a size 2 QT drive + bigger fuel tank gets this ship places a lot faster and farther than size 1 ships. Despite the other ships in my fleet. This one is a keeper.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Great points Ted!

@FederalNewsNetwork1138

Жыл бұрын

I don't remember specifically what was said years ago for jump points, but is the Freelancer *MAX* the biggest ship for small jump points, or the *base* freelancer? Or all Freelancers? This feels like im nitpicking about variants, but the Max is physically larger, so i'm actually not sure.

I don't understand why people hate the Freelancer, it hardly gets any hype, people put the Cutty Black & Connie above. I like the overall shape, reminds me of the Serenity. With the proper upgrades the MIS is not only very deadly in combat, but it can take a lot of hits before it finally blows. The DUR has the potential to be one of the more interesting ships to go exploring in depending on how the gameplay for the onboard fuel refinery is planned to work. And while the series may not have the best interior, I feel like it still does a good job of making the ship feel very "industrial", unlike the Connie's interior which looks more like a bunch of recycled centuries-old components thrown together.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

I love the Freelancer. I think it's because a lot of people appreciate that the Cutlass Black is a bit of a "bad boy", it feels rugged and dangerous. And the Connie is a step up in terms of functionality (and price!!). But I agree, for somebody who wants to be more on the peaceful, law abiding side, the Freelancer is fantastic!

@JFrombaugh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister I'm looking to ultimately RP my character as some kind of research assistant who is more on the lawful side and for now the Freelancer DUR will likely be my go-to ship once Exploration is released. One of my most anticipated ships is the Endeavor, but I predict it'll be one of the last ships to be released, and in any case those huge capital ships will run you into the ground financially unless you know enough people to help you crew them/have access to the best missions.

@BiasHyperion

Ай бұрын

It’s robocop cockpit and a cock-ship, simple as.

I find freelancers enchantingly attractive, max is especially fun, although I no longer own it. But it's always a temptation. Others call it ugly, but I find lancers very charming.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I think so too!!

@mhill311

2 жыл бұрын

I love the look of the Lancers....I guess either you love them or hate them.

@realburglazofficial2613

2 жыл бұрын

I love the look of this ship! It looks like the kind of ship that anyone could own. Just a space Winnebago that looks quite like the Serenity.

As cargo hauler/trader the Freelancer Max was my starter and I still pretend this ship as good as possible. It is one of the most versatile ones in the verse and in addition to the points said in the video (thx for it^^) you can also fit an Ursa Rover, Cyclone, any hovering bike and a P52/P72 snub inside the cargo deck without any glitches/jumping around. The turrent defends indeed more or less just the back but in comparison to the better positioned turret on the Cutlass you get a second M shield which makes this ship quite tanky for all models. With the new SDF shield technique and using the num block to redirect power to shield parts you should handle a lot of situations easy. I would suggest here a Sukoran/FR76 combination if possible so you can benefit from fast recharge as well as a partly perfect protection against physical damage and high shield capacity in total. It's a truck, correct but one that really can bite back and offers a huge variety of possible gameplay. The ladder was mentioned in the video, it is the safest and also the fastes way to get inside your ship without taking any risk to get borded by any unsuspected horn helmeted individual^^. The actual fuel scopes are working fine, without any changes you dont need to buy hydrogen at all, just let it refuel by scoping in space for free. The often mentioned viewing slit of the cockpit has also one small advantage (over all the disadvantages): Correctly rolled there is nearly no chance to get blinded by stantons shine in any situation. Also with a bit time you get used to use the wide horizontal angle of the cockpit. If the enemy ship strafes to the right, roll the ship in an angle that the enemy fighter will follow the view slit horizontally from left right and not from e.g. upside down. Although flying now Caterpillar and soon (hopefully) C2 and even "sooooner" (TM CIG) the Banu Merchantman I still love this ship. In one sentence: Quick there, quick back and getting in trouble simply bite back. Give it a try ^^ Greetings from the plague Czech Republic and stay healthy.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments! I really enjoyed the "horn helmeted individual" lol

Wow I subscribed to you 3 seconds after your video started... Relaxing voice, relaxing ambient music, smooth cinematic gameplay. Love it!

@Farrister

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, and welcome aboard!

The most useful freelancer variant 🤓👍

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely versatile!

I adore the Max. It’s great for getting into all the odd locations. And given how screwed up trading is right now can haul as much as anyone can buy anyhow so it’s a lot more useful than my caterpillar.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Plus all the other things it can be used for!

Thank you for the review of my absolute favored ship. I just love the Freelancer series and especially the MAX

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Excellent video, thank you. This will probably be my next ship after the Cutter.

I bought a Max specifically to carry ground vehicles in the back, because ground exploration is fun for me. There are few if any ships that can carry as many vehicles as easily as the Max can, unless you get a much bigger ship. However in a lot of situations the bigger ships are just unnecessary bulk and hassle if I just want to bring a few cars somewhere.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. That's one of the reasons I love the MSR, and one of the reasons I'm so excited for the Hercules series!

So many fond memories in this ship. I will probably fly it again sometimes despite having bigger cargo haulers. As far as the extra seats are concerned, eventually we might see them useful for transporting people around like a taxi for those individuals who need a ride along the same routs you are hauling goods. I can imagine that some day, similar to box delivery missions, we might have people delivery missions. Personally I think that would be pretty great, but one can hope.

Always like the videos, they don’t get the recognition they deserve.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of you to say!

I did upgrade my Freelancer to a MSR. And while I do love the MSR there are many instances in which I miss my Freelancer. Twice the pilot guns, better fuel economy, & easier/faster to get in/out of, to name a few.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

The MSR is just a different class of ship (as you might guess from the pricetag). I still use the MSR as my daily driver, but as soon as you start talking about value for money, the FL Max starts looking much more attractive.

@golgoth74

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister seems we have the same gameplay

I just purchased this ship in game yesterday and so far I’m liking it. Nearly triple the cargo capacity of my Cutlass Black, so I’m not making a lot of trips to sell my cargo. Looking forward to upgrading it.

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

Glad to read it!

Great review, thanks!

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Love your videos

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm really enjoying making them :)

I'm so new I've only bought the game. Been watching your vids. Great bro. I went with a Cutlass Black, Arrow, and this one to start.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, big spend!!

@durtyred86

2 жыл бұрын

JPIZZLE you honestly could melt all 3 and get a Taurus. That ship has the firepower to do every level of bounty hunting, more cargo space than the Max at 174 scu vs the Max's 120ish and is a DIRECT upgrade from the Cutless-Black in every way. The only reason I'd say the Max is a better option is because it'll be able to fit through small jumpoints unlike the Taurus. And that's something that's a long ways off. If you melt those ships and grab a Taurus & Prospector, you'll have everything you need to make credits in game and buy whatever ships you want to try out before spending real cash.

9:15 the issue of more seats than crew could easily be resolved in the short term by allowing the captain's station to delegate navigation, targeting, and flight to other stations - the fourth bridge station would be great for an engineer in the long run but provides a comfortable place for the turret gunner when the turret isn't in use in the meantime

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

That would be great

Awesome, thank you!

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

For all of you C2 M2 and A2 soon to be owners, if you don’t like the freelancers canopy well the starlifters are nearly identical.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's me lol

i owned it for awhile and can't wait to earn one in game:) such a fun/versatile ship!

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

What's your base package?

@black2burn211

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister hmmm....I think scoundrel pack?

I’m going to buy a gaming pc and this ship sounds like my kind of thing! I loved cargo hauling in elite!

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

A lot to spend though!

Freelancer MAX and Cyclone MT are the only vehicles I've bought with real money and I love it! Of course still waiting for MT to be released. I started playing the game last year when one of the Freelancers was free to fly. I did like it because it was able to hold the ROC even tho it was tight fit. I Tested MAX during expo and I knew I had to upgrade my starter ship with it, especially since it was on sale. Been using it with my mining trips, sometimes carrying 2 ROCs, one for me and one for my buddy. It has made ROC mining so easy that we've been able to purchase many ships with the game currency. Only downside is really the way how it struggles when trying to launch/land on planets. This doesn't affect mining too much since we're mostly mining on moons where the gravity is not an issue.

The MAX was my first "big" ship. And I just waited for you to mention the pitiful hovering capabilities xD Happened a lot that I just fell out of the sky right at my planetside destination, because I didn't know using the afterburner also affects your maneuvering thrusters. Oh well. Everyone mentions the poor visibility out of the Freelancer's cockpit but truth be told, you get used to it remarkably quickly. And especially if you don't mind using the external view every so often, it works. If I might hand in a request, I would love to see your take on the Retaliator. Right now Torpedo homing is pretty broken (they refuse to steer) but the ship itself is still one of my all time favorites.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually hoping to cover the Retaliator in the coming weeks - I started flying it 3 weeks ago!

@BlackThanator

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister That's great news, tho I'm sorry you have to experience her with the torps being as they currently are. There was a time not too long ago where they would follow a target quite tenaciously. Personally I love her for her looks, and the submarine feeling you get from the inside. Really excited for the interchangeable modules.

I love the cockpit

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Especially if you can get a couple of people in!

Freelancer Max is in my hangar. More versatile than the Cat and can carry just enough cargo to make it earn its keep. I love Freelancers.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

As a pledge or in game buy?

@themouse0237

3 жыл бұрын

I actually agree. Have the cat because of my bmm but damm I prefer flying the freelancer

@andyandreson3989

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister Pledge. A prospector and Freelancer Max are a must own in case of a wipe IMO. Being a solo player it’s also about as big as you need and can easily handle (plus not expensive to operate).

@golgoth74

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyandreson3989 So true I agree 100%

I look forward to the day when I can finally play this game. I hope to have one of these ole girls. She seems quite useful!

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

She certainly is!

I have one and do love it more the my Freelancer DUR, they do drive as you say but like with anything once you start to get a feel for it you start to predict how its going to fly and can anticipate its movements in space and atmosphere, compared to my smaller ships that respond instantly and sometimes abruptly and jerky the Freelancers are smoother and more whale like yet when landing on no gravity or low gravity they are a joy to fly much as whales are in the ocean very graceful and smooth, plus with those big guns and missiles they are far from helpless. All of the Freelancers are getting a makeover in the Gold standard and it looks like they are downing crew size in at least two of them to 3 the base and the max, also all are going to grow a bit each section will get wider and I think a bit taller, anywhere from 1/2 SCU to 1 1/2 SCU just in width. Totally new floorplan's and storage areas much to look forward to.I hope they don't downgrade the crew size in the Miss and the DUR you need more people for those types of missions so of course more beds. The new Cockpit will be closer to a 3 person triangle with the pilot front and center with a hull A view, much needed, would be nice to get an additional bottom auto turret, in all of them ,and the turret in the max top may be changed to a remote turret in the gold standard, Allowing safer hauling for and more room with a 2 person crew or 1. I want the Military version in the Gold Standard, Also you can get more out of these ships if you Upgrade some ship components, not super expensive to do because the are size 2, Shield regen time and size of the hp pool. Quantum Drive, Power Plants, the Coolers upgrade is not needed at this time until game mechanics change more. Great Video as always and I have seen it before and wasn't able to comment on it at that times because of KZread setting and my google settings, thanks again.

The Freelancer Max makes the basic Freelancer obsolete. As far as I know, there are no performance differences between them and the Max gets 2x the cargo space. And the cargo bay width is a HUGE advantage when talking about carrying vehicles. The basic Freelancer is really just like a foot too skinny to comfortably carry most smaller vehicles. Leading to clipping and physics issues.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I know what you're getting at, although I don't think it makes the base Freelancer obsolete for one simple reason: price for a new backer. The base model is much more attainable. The Max is better in almost every other way.

@Dracounguis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister What is it $20-$25 real money price difference? If you were already thinking of handing over the price of a normal Freelancer it's not _that_ much different. Or you could get the Freelancer and then when that 66 cargo starts to feel too small you upgrade to the Max for that price difference. 👍 Or, as you said, the aUEC price is fairly reasonable. So if that is your route to a Freelancer you are definitely better off grabbing the Max. But assuming you can afford either one there is no reason (other than aesthetics) to not get the Max.

Part 3 is going to need to be redone when 3.13 comes t live. Also with all the intangibles it has, I feel it's the best ship in the game.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Such is the way!

My dream ship. Halfway there. Nothing else says _space semi_ like it.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yup!

Love the max, pretty sure it'll be my main hauler for vehicles and smaller cargo loads. Still aiming for a hull B when they come out as the money maker

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

It'll be really interesting to see the interplay between the Hull series, and the more atmospheric cargo haulers.

@f3ritecore251

3 жыл бұрын

I got the cat but cargo running is... Less profitable

@andyandreson3989

3 жыл бұрын

The Hull series (except maybe the A) won’t be truly worthwhile until there are more systems IMO.

@tristar3005

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyandreson3989 True although from what I understand we should be getting the hull series around the time Pyro comes out. And they're expanding the turbulent studio to focus on planet/system content so hopefully we see many more locations get added to the road map

I CCU'd my MAX to a MIS a few weeks ago and I'm already missing it. The weak bottom thrusters can be augmented with the afterburner which I got used to pretty quick. Currently the headlights don't work making landing in the dark dangerous and there's no button to open and close external doors; also it looks like a creamsicle, but it's a great ship and just the right size for the amount of cargo it can carry.

@jemhi9929

3 жыл бұрын

There is a keybinding "toggle open close all doors" you can program to any key/controler you wish to

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I have mine on my throttle boat switch :)

The two extra crew seats could easily be used for scanning and engineering gameplay. Giving the Freelancers the options for exploration would justify the crew compliment.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I really hope there is good gameplay for that in the future!!

At this point I wish I hadn't upgraded my MAX to a Star Runner. The latter is just too big and too expensive for me to use as a daily driver/hauler. Great review!

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, although I'm the opposite, use my MSR all the time!!

@jamiedavinci1328

2 жыл бұрын

While I hear the MSR mentioned all the time, I totally agree - the Starrunner is just too much. The Freelancer focuses on it's hauling role and flourishes with it, making cargo runs a breeze.

Do the Freelance MAX exterior lights work in 3.13? I recall trying it in 3.12 PTU and found out that I had no outside lights working at all. This was troublesome because I intended to use F-MAX as an all around ship for cargo haulage and a surface mining support vessel. Landing and flying during the night was impossible due to missing exterior lights.

This ship has killer acceleration. At full throttle, not many can keep up. I have ran a 250k credit run to arccorp and had a 70k profit, if I remember correctly. That was last august.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Those back engines are strong, it's just the thrusters beneath that struggle...

Farrister - I've subscribed for awhile, stop yelling at me 😃 - but seriously, the Freelancer line up is one of my favorites, MISC "Built for Life". Solid performers in their niches, the four crew position of these ships appear excessive to some. But once the SOON (tm) features are online, the extra crew can serve both an actual purpose along with the purpose of letting four travel together for fun. Pilot/Captain, Copilot/ Cargo Master, Engineer, and Security/Rear Gunner all have something to focus on, as an example. Compare it to the commonly accepted competitor, the ubiquitous Cutlass. Crewed only by staff with a bed - the Cutlass crew needs to choose between the same duties: pilot, copilot, engineer, gunner but with only two people. And if only two "Han and Chewie" friends, maybe the other two seats can be sold to a crazy old man with a young "green behind the ears" man picked up in a seedy area of Area 18 needing a lift quickly with NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Haha Eric, not yelling at you! I always put timestamps in so feel free to skip ahead :) I'd love to see all of those gameplay loops - multicrew is the main reason I backed, that said I expect this is a ship that will almost always been flown solo, including when those features are live.

@ericwollaston5654

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister I beg to differ that in some cases, especially the DUR be a nimble and efficient traveller. A copilot to manage the upcoming energy/power management will be a force multiplier (for survival). Maybe not 4 people, but 2-3 will work, some of us do so already. When you are jumping through multiple systems, with far apart jump points, taking multiple ships will likely have its drawbacks. I tend to think long term rather than current game when I look at ships and such - but in some ways, it's like playing craps.

Cool, useful ship. Strange I don't see more people flying it in game. Hope CIG fixes the non-working headlights on it in this next patch.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Supposedly the headlights are fixed in 3.13!

@weilburg1

3 жыл бұрын

Hesdlights are fixed now. Even the door lock system is running again

@seotenin

3 жыл бұрын

I used to fly my Max all the time One of my favorite all times ships But lately the thruster/flight characteristics in low atmosphere makes them very difficult to fly/land/take off

Very versital ship. The two shield generators are a good selling point. I opted for the Freelancer Mis. Big reduction on cargo but she has teeth. Great for hauling expensive or illegal cargo. Also makes a great bounty hunter.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Farrister cannot condone the carrying of expensive or illegal cargo..... But that sounds fun xD

I bought mine in game to truck around my ROC. Made enough to by a Prospector so now I use the Max to haul my refined goods to sell. It handles like a brick, especially in “1G” environments, so I avoid combat if possible, even in space. It’s fuel efficient and compared to the Prospector, it’s quantum drive is lightning fast 😊 All in all it’s a great ship and I don’t regret spending the 2.2 mil.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

Probably the best "starter" ship for the money, though not a true starter ship. Extra cargo, decent defences and good teeth in a fight make it a brilliant all-rounder. Can carry 2 rocs for co-op mining and I'm sure there will be space for upgrade modules whenever we get them in game. A good pilot can work around the visibility limits and careful control of afterburners can solve most VTOL thrust issues. Love this ship almost as much as the cat (which has a special place in my heart) - good review.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, think we mostly agree on this one!

I'm only considering to get into the game. it wouldn't be my starter ship, I'd start with the mustang alpha and work my way up to the Freelancer Max, which is really what I want to get. I love and play American Truck Simulator, and I think this would scratch that sci-fi space trucker itch.

Ditched it for the Hercules C2. Got an Avenger Titan for fast general all-around gameplay.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Herc C2 is a big upgrade!!

@n00bster83

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the general thinking is that assuming that cargo will become proper-profitable instead of the current mess that it is in, a C2 can buy a Freelancer (or any other ship for that matter) in a fraction of the time than a Freelancer can buy a C2, as it can carry more than five times as much. Plus for most of us working adults time is not a resource we have readily available, I'd rather pay to skip or accelerate through the grind.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

@@n00bster83 agree, I have an M2! But I wouldn't suggest most people spend as much as we have!

New sub just because you reviewed my favorite ship, can you confirm if lift off in atmosphere is possible without the use of afterburners, teying to figure out if this bug has been fixed

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

So it kinda is... If I'm ever struggling I'll lift the nose ever so slightly, and that usually gives just enough thrust to get airborne. But it's not a great experience... Welcome to the channel :)

i wish to recreate ships like these in space engineers and wonder how those little maneuver thrusters work so well in other games.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I do the same in Kerbal :P

The Max is one of the only early purchased ships that I’ve never CCU’d up. It’s versatility combined with its cargo capacity makes it the perfect high value commodity hauler for quick turnaround cargo runs. It also, unlike the other ships in the Freelancer series, is the only ship that doesn’t have access blocked on one side when filled with cargo, a design fault I found incredibly annoying when using the other freelancers.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I didn't even think to mention that about the blocked cargo bays, that's a great point!!

Mining without a light at night is a bummer though. I wish the tailgate button was working on the dash board. Not a perfect ship but the best we got for mining with a friend with 2 ROC inside. Only mine on Arial and Daymar with it. It's too hard to control it on Microtech.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that gravity becomes a little challenging...

Loving this content as always! What hardware are you using? The video is so smooth!

@antoinecarpentier4153

3 жыл бұрын

You should check the description 😉

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Antoine got in there first! There are still a couple of jumpy bits, but I try to edit them out. RTX 3070 at 1440p gives good solid framerates :) I'm working out what I'll need to start producing 4k videos, and it's making my eyes water!

@CitizenRyan

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister oh I can imagine the river flows haha. Do you think you will spring for a 3080/90 for that?

I have the Freelancer Max and I love it. I am a dedicated space trucker. My computor will no longer allow me to play Star Citizen but as soon as I can, if possible, upgrade my computor I will certainly be back with my Max hauling cargo. Ive even considered doing a Go Fund Me to get a capable machine. If I can figure that out.

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

Plus, the system requirements have changed a lot since first release of the hangar module!

it seems they fixed the under hangs with the turret, thank god.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Good!

The MAX is amazing. Its an engirthened freelancer, so it brings all the goods (and negatives) of the base freelancer. Only reason i don't own one is it is, sadly, outclassed in most ways by the MSR as a medium hauler.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had used the word engirthened in my video!

the max is fine, feels like a sluggish heavy fighter with other things to do(cargo based stuff and small vehicles). This ship feels great to fly with 1 friend but anymore and it gets kinda crowded(as with all freelancers). No place for personal storage on board(locker, gun rack, anything). Rear turret feels weak compared to other ships that have larger turrets but at least it has it. Don't have this one but i do have the Freeelancer mis which has very similar features. nice vid

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I definitely sense that the 4 seats are a homage to the Millennium Falcon...

@Icarus_789

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister I thought that was why we have the MSR, regardless i don't see anyone with a crew of 4 on a freelancer anytime soon as it doesn't have enough for 4 people to do on them

I forgot to check in the PTU, did they fix the headlights on the max yet?

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't checked, but others have told me they have!

got mine just now. I upgraded from my nova tank, wich I never use. ship's cool. right now a bunch cheaper than the connie. how time change. I'm struggling betwenn the max and valkyrie. love them both.

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

Both nice size point too!

FL Max is a favorite of mine but I got so tired of no lights at night shes been gathering dust until that is fixed. Black on Black in Black in some parts of verse is already hard enough without flying something with no lights

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah

@weilburg1

3 жыл бұрын

Headlight are fixed in 3.13 :)

I love the Max for what it was designed to do. That is hauling cargo. I graduated to it from hauling cargo in a Constellation Aquila. It will carry more than the Connie, and cheaper. My only gripe about it is the cockpit visibility, but I can live with it. If needed those 4 external gimballed guns can be upgraded to something better. Still size 4 guns are more than enough to get the job done. Having enough fuel to cross the system is great as sometimes it's best to cross completely without having to stop for fuel. For me, I tend to sway away from using it for simple box deliveries, and use a smaller faster ship. I usually prefer the Pisces or Cutlass Black for them. I'm not one who likes combat, but if pushed I can hold my own. I don't usually go for the bounty hunting missions as a rule.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have a lot of ships to choose from!

@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister Yes, I'm a concierge member. My fleet currently consists of 25 Ships and 20 Ground Vehicles. I've been collecting since 2006 when my son introduced me to the game. A majority of them are dedicated to Exploration, bringing in some form of income for me and my Org, and Defense/Combat. As I once said, I'm not one for Combat, but I'm fully capable of fighting if needs be. I prefer the peaceful pursuits of Exploration, and on the side keeping my coffers up where I have everything I need to operate. Yes, I have my favorites.

I have one as a pledge it’s a great ship the only issue it has for me is it’s planetary landing to hangers the thrusters aren’t powerful enough it seems to me. Other than that I have no issues with it. It’s great as part of the cargo hauling / mining career path I’m taking in SC.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, agree, and I quite like that - it's not super op at everything, it feels balanced but versatile

@the1lackster

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister pretty much they just need to sort the thrusters IMO that’s the main issue with it right now as it’s not great landing at locations like Lorville. Micro tech it’s generally okay but better thrusters would improve it here too.

I'm debating on either getting this ship or the cutty blue. I currently have a titan avenger and want something a little better at fighting but cargo trading seems like something I might like to do as well. Any suggestion on which ship to get first? I'm gonna buy them with in game currency if that helps

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

The FL Max would generally be better for civilian purposes, in my opinion. But the Cutlass Blue would fare better in many combat situations, especially where the FL Max is more defensive. How are you earning your in game currency? That might influence your decision!

How does this ship compare for general utility to a Cutlass? I'm trying to decide between the two for everything from cargo hauling to ground vehicle transport and exploration, mining operations with the Roc, etc.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

The Cutlass is a lot easier to fly, but the Max kinda has more utility in a sense - the extra space in the back. I'm also a big fan of the fact that you can enter via ladder which is much more secure. I'd lean towards the Cutlass if you're a little more combat focused, and the Max if you're a little more economic focused. For exploration, I might actually lean towards the Cutlass simply because you'll find it easier to control on big planets like MicroTech. But there's no right or wrong answer, and if you're buying in game, you could always buy both :P

Over 3 dozen dog fights, been shot down once in this ship. She's durable. She's very tanks but the thrusters help big time for rotation ease and the gymbols make aiming seemless with t then double G. This should be the only ship trading is done with imo

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

Really great ship - just very heavy!

Lol I was using my max to bounty hunting on the ptu up to high grp missions With different gun layout Good every day driver I will also point out it has a very similar view from the cockpit as what they have Shown us of the c2\m2

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely - I actually don't mind it so much. Once you've built up experience as a pilot, that visibility is not as critical, but for a newer player it definitely makes things more difficult.

@rolanders7553

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister and in the ptu the headlights are working but I’m a fan of the max it’s my favorite of the freelancer

I wish so so much that trading will be playable again soon🥺

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

It's playable, especially with smaller haulers, just not as good as it used to be :(

I love mine but have one (and ONLY one) serious complaint... VTOL/bottom thrust! Try taking off from Lorville - it's almost impossible! >:-( Gotta' lean backwards and get the rear thrusters working for you... 30% chance of flipping over in the process. ...and fix the damned headlights!! ;-)

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Or use the afterburners, but yes, it's needlessly difficult! There's a lot of footage of take off and landing disasters on the editing room floor which will never be seen in public...

How do use use the turret ? I’ve tried to use it and couldn’t operate it. I did turn the turret on but couldn’t fire my guns.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Were you in a no-fire zone? If you've got power, you should be able to fire!

@kitlui9002

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister I figured it out, I had to turn the safety off by pressing my F key.

I own a Max and it’s a love hate relationship. She is a great hauler and not to expensive to run. But no headlights, no brakes, and a rude inability to hover in atmo make this ship a bit terrifying to haul that refined ore you waited 2 days to process. But if your doing station to station runs etc she is a dream to use. I hope when they do the gold standard to her they fix many of these deficiencies. I won’t be selling my Max but if I use her the flight will be well planned out and handled like juggling grenades.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

I have a soft spot for the MAX. ALways have. But at the end of the day I think I'd still choose a Taurus over the Max. Better defens, offense and cargo space overall. I love the Max because it REALLY gives off that truckers feel.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree, although Taurus is not at quite such an accessible price point for new players!

For me, the deal breaker for the freelancer is actually that darn turret on the back. The arms that come down block too many ground vehicles that should otherwise fit in the back. Without that turret, it would be the ideal daily driver and small vehicles hauler.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Can squeeze most of them in past it!

@CyberiusT

3 жыл бұрын

ISTR one of the devs saying that was not designed behaviour and would be addressed at some future point. I'm hopeful about that, because those rails piss me off, too.

Though I didn't view the entire video, I did read all the comments. And agree 100% that the MAX is a great ship and I have a standalone in my fleet of standalones. Howver, though as I stated didn't watched the entire video. The MAX has one flaw that keeps me from utilizing it. It would seem based on experience that my distanacions are always in the night time thus extremely dark when I arrive. And the MAX not having any lights to illuminate the surfaces, crash the majority of times. Please if you have any clout with CIG, CR, etc. Have them fix the no headlight issues.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I have no clout with anybody lol, but I'm told that the lights are fixed in 3.13

Do the landing lights work yet in 3.13?

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't tested yet!

beautiful design. But The top mounted weapan capsule is a kind of problem. if the cargo is fully loaded, highly possible this area is not accessible.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Good point!

I have a DUR, and look forward to properly using it at some point. All the Freelancers suffer from outdated interior design by CIG. Reduce the beds to 2 and make better use of the space for the remaining crew. Why on earth does it need 4 crew when a C2 only needs 2 and it's far bigger.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it doesn't 'need' 4 crew but it does seem a bit overkill!

The normal Freelancer is supposed to be the biggest ship that can go thru a small jump portal, can this upgrade do the same?

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Unclear at this moment, we don't really have them in game to know for sure what the mechanics will be...

What is the best freelancer? (for a cargo and roc mining beginner, regular bh aswell)

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the MAX, it has more room!

@KassiGam3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister yeah more people said i should buy it, so i will buy it thanks for answering btw

Having upgraded a Cutless Black to a Freelancer Max, only for its cargo capability, I can say that I will never get rid of this ship. It is ugly, but has grown on me. It is a workhorse. A beast. The distance it can go and the cost of that travel is phenominal...even with ugraded quantum drive, and power plant. Which, by the way, enables it to float like a feather when needed.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Will have to give it another try!

@ronnieo9571

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister great... and on that note ...a video....that really really really gets into ROC carrying...in terms not only of fit ...entry...exit...but also....fuel consumption....scanning....ability to land on uneven surfaces....etc....would be great....the be all end all......I mean inbetween all the other great videos you make.

I agree

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

A good sign!

she flies like a brick but I love the MAX because she is fantastic RORO (roll on, roll off) for the ROC. The hydrogen scoops are great and it never dips below 98% when mining with the ROC. Also an excellent medium trader. I think she will also carry the new (and rather odd) ROC-DS

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely!!

@WhatTrigger

Жыл бұрын

Any news if it does fit the DS vairant? and if Im reading this right this ship actually refuels itself in Atmo?

Did they fix the headlights?

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Supposedly fixed in 3.13!

Freelancers are cool, especially the MAX being able to carry 2 ursa rovers with room to spare. I just feel like the extra 2 co-pilot seats and 2 beds could be removed for something more useful. Might have looked cool a couple years back but who's going to pilot a freelancer with 3 co pilots?

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's best being able to take more crew, but mostly I expect this will be flown solo

@blackworldtraveler3711

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that many can't see past themselves when it comes to ships and vehicles thinking just because they don't like something nobody else should.

The Freelancer Max is quite cheap, when talking about ingame money. A good progression is : - bounties / deliveries missions in a starter ship - renting cutlass black + ROC - renting a prospector - renting a cutlass black again for refined cargo selling - buying a prospector - buying a freelancer max - buying a mole If you make friends in the mean time it’s even better :)

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I like that progression plan!

@enregistreur

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister it’s basically what I did using a Pisces as a « luxury starter » for deliveries (it’s really the most efficient ship for it). Also, the freely available ships during events can help to take shortcuts in this progression, for a time

Is there any handling difference between the Max and the standard Freelancer

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

You know I should take them out side by side to find out!

@mhill311

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister If you do let me know....I've read that the Lancer while not fighter nimble is fairly nimble for a ship of its size. I have the base but I may get the Max if there isn't any super significance in handling, that's why I asked. thanks!

Does the MAX handle the same as the base Freelancer?

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

There's a lot that is similar about it, but the MAX definitely feels heavier

It's a good hauling ship, better then the other freelancers, but at the current store prices it's a hard sell comparing it with the upcoming Taurus which will carry much more ad has a proper crew quarters. If the Taurus price will go up after the pledge phase, the max will make more sense. In game the price seems more reasonable.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

I think I like most that it's not *overpowered* - it's very versatile, but also has a lot of drawbacks, which make it feel like a balanced choice

this looks like a ship that would exist in Fifth Element.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

It does have that feel to it! #multipass

Freelancer MAX vs RAFT for moving refined Quantum?

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Either will do fine, I'd probably lean towards RAFT if you have a choice, just because the atmospheric performance feels a bit nicer (and if you're selling quanta, it's probably planet side)

Why is there a ladder in the hab section? You've got an airlock right there. Since CIG is trying to be simulationist in their approach to design it doesn't make sense that you put that point of weakness there and if you're tracking moon dust inside your ship that shit's going to ruin the interior. Edited: there for their

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Haha there is a mini airlock on the ladder

Freelancer MAX makes for a great stealthy ROC hauler. Stealth components, weapons off, scan at 4x. No pirates are stealing my stuff!

@HPmcDoogle

3 жыл бұрын

Why exactly scan at 4x? Wont you miss deposits that you may be passing very close by on either of your flanks?

@TrevHolland

3 жыл бұрын

@@HPmcDoogle As I understand it, 4x will scan in a 90 degree cone in front of you, which covers enough area to comfortably cruise in a straight line and scan every chance you can. It also ensures your scan doesn't go out too wide, drawing the attention of someone who happens to be near by. Unless they're within that cone, they won't see the scan. So, in theory, you're more stealthy.

@HPmcDoogle

3 жыл бұрын

@@TrevHolland good to know! Thanks!

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly pirates aren't stealing anybodys stuff right now, it's mostly just griefing :( #salty

The freelance is definitely due for a gold standard pass. New-ish to SC but the Max is my daily driver. I can do investigation and delivery missions. Then go pick up a ROC and mine. Then go out exploring wherever I want around the entire system never worrying about distance or fuel. For the love of SC though, they need to let the turret access be via a console with the seats behind the pilot and co-pilot. Get rid of the stupid drop down chair with the two hanging rebar poles. So annoying when you park the ROC at the back and you can't get in becaue it wants to take you up in the turret.

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

A good choice of ship for that :) and agree about the rear turret!

I do not own it, but I kinda like it. I've tried it several times when the occasion was there (free flights and such) and while I do not like freelancers in general (the space dildo shape, the awful cockpit design) I did use it in combat for quite some time when base version was free for everyone, and I even unlocked the pirate gladius and cat with it ^^. I really like the double thruster setup visually and that wider look it gives to the ship. I just wish, and hope, that we'll be able to stack components in this cargo bay (med beds, prison cells and other cool components offering gameplay loops). As you said, solid 2nd base ship.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Haha the shape, yes... But agree with your other comments, it's really versatile :)

Got the MAX from aUEC from my cutlass...I prefer MAX to Cutty on Cargo Obviously...Cutlass is better all rounder. I would say a New player should buy one of the following NOMAD / CUTTY / FREELANCER BASE. Cutty is middle of the road, Nomand if cheap, Freelancer if you want something less spartan than a cutty. NOMAD = Toyota Hilux, CUTTY = F150 heavy duty with flat bed, FREELANCER = 18 WHEELER

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, all good starter choices!

The Freelancer Max is currently pretty bugged, it has under powered trusters for take off (currently, use to be normal), i can't get off ground in max power without using boost and atmospheric yaw turning has backward roll rotation... hopefully it will get noticed and touched by devs

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

A few people have suggested that it might improve next patch!

@tallll70

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister its np, just information, i almost traded it for StarRunner, i'm glad i didn't, i would miss it

Is it slower than the normal Freelancer?

@Farrister

3 ай бұрын

Sort of. The top speed and SCM speeds are the same, but the MAX is heavier...

Yep. All Freelancers are good ships. The real money price is pretty high for non-whales though. The cockpit view is one of the worst in game, the turret could be located in a better place and the orange paint is ugly but other than that it's a solid daily driver.

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Think we're in agreement on this one :)

Whilst I love this thing I think I'll stick to my RAFT for light freight when I don't have the crew for my cat

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Oooh, I've been flying the RAFT a little bit recently :)

@gyratingwolpertiger6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister How have you found it? I love the thing but keep bouncing between it and the Max for solo hauling and later use as an ore shuttle.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

@@gyratingwolpertiger6851 I'm yet to make my mind up. I'm starting the review process on it, I usually fly for a few weeks before putting my thoughts to paper

@gyratingwolpertiger6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister I have a soft spot for it as I love the design and her VTOL/landing characteristics IE the 4 legs at the 4 corners of the hull vs ships that are known for nose dip. I do think she's a bit lack luster atm compared to her competition but for my mining org it's down to a choice between the max and her for the last mile small runs to sell or supply runs to outposts ect

I use the MAX strictly for Roc mining and transporting refined ore, until i get a caterpillar

@Farrister

3 жыл бұрын

Even with a Caterpillar, the MAX could still be a good choice, as it limits your potential losses from a 30k!

@HPmcDoogle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister oh im aware. I fly a max for my current mining loops, but im a risk taker and chance what the universe throws at me on the daily.

@gyratingwolpertiger6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@Farrister and I'd argue it could still be used when you don't have the crew for the turrets on the cat. Ignoring off main trade lane routes ect I'd rather potentially lose 120 scu than 576 if I got bounced and couldn't fight, bargain or get away.

Neverminded the top mounting rear turret system gets in the way of actual vehicles and payload. I complained to them about that. Guess what they did. They didn't get rid of it, and make it a remote turret via the chairs in the pilot compartment like they should of to begin with. No, they just made it clip through-able. Pathetic. Shoddy work.

@Farrister

Жыл бұрын

Yeah....

Hope they rework this ship and add tractor beam at the back

The rear turret is just bad. It could have been a remote turret. So no one needs to run to the back, far away from escape pods. And it could have been positioned higher with a 360 degree arc of fire. A bottom turret would be nice too since there are 4 beds. Gives everyone something to do.

@Farrister

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's one of the oldest designs and it shows :(

@durtyred86

2 жыл бұрын

Just leaves more room for improvement during the gold pass. 😁