I study criminal psychology and Edmund Kemper "the co-ed killer" was a subject I read up on. My brother recently told me about Mindhunter. It took awhile for me to get to watching the show, but I've finally dug my heels into Season 1. I'm very impressed with the actor's portrayal of Ed Kemper and am curious to know how much research he did for the part. I wonder if perhaps he read some of the same materials I've read. There are only a small handful of documentaries and interviews available, although I did speak to someone who served a year in prison up in Northern California where Ed remains imprisoned. He became close friends with Ed Kemper (aka Big Ed.). He wouldn't divulge much information to me out of respect for Ed, but he did inform me that the documentaries and interviews we have access to as the average citizen don't cover all of his crimes nor the details of the crimes... Mindhunter is an excellent show, especially for those interested in the fields of criminal psychology, behavioral sciences and the evolution of criminal profiling for the criminal justice system. I love that the show takes place in the 70's. It's a flashback to a great decade. The cars, the music and the nostalgia make for a rather interesting and enjoyable journey back in time. It was the decade that gave us the term "serial killer" as we know it now. I just finished Season 1 and look forward to seeing where Season 2 will take us. Thank you for putting this video together and posting.

@Adama.1

6 жыл бұрын

What's this about editing?

@catherinehpn3613

6 жыл бұрын

Respect for Kemper?????

@07foxmulder

6 жыл бұрын

Catherine Powers My thoughts exactly. Who in their right mind has respect for such a low-life degenerate? I’m thinking the OP is totally full of shit.

@kendallruedger4621

6 жыл бұрын

I've met him. I worked at cmf-VACAVILLE for the last 8 months. He's 300lbs in a wheel chair now. Shits himself. I had a 20 min convo with him outside the hospice unit and he was sad a friend of his had just passed which is why I was heading that way to notify my inmates to clean the area. He still talks like that. Creepy.

@sleepytasmr

6 жыл бұрын

The Mindhunter version of Ed is nothing like him in real life. The vibe, everything is wrong.

That scene when ed Kemper jumps out of the hospital bed almost gave me a heart attack

@nikhilganesh1438

3 жыл бұрын

Me too bro, goosebumps

@julesking1303

3 жыл бұрын

There’s something really terrifying seeing such a large person move at that speed. It really makes you understand why they say humans are apex predators.

@billytubes

3 жыл бұрын

Lol happened to me yesterday while I was watching 😂

@jezzabrina

3 жыл бұрын

I would've had a panic attack just like Holden.

@m011ynice03

3 жыл бұрын

Ikrrr😳😂 Holdens reaction actually made me hurt🥺 even tho he ended up fine...

If the actor was a pretty boy he'd be getting leading roles in big budget studio movies. Dude deserves a lot more work, he's a real artist of an actor. Respect

@mr.vargas5648

4 жыл бұрын

Hes Kemper ok he wasent a pretty boy he said so himself that woman had rejected him his entire life it would make no sense.

@norgie549

4 жыл бұрын

He plays Hazel in the umbrella academy

@Prockski

4 жыл бұрын

andy pete He is talking about the actor and not the man himself.

@gloriiax9987

4 жыл бұрын

Britishthetitan xD

@abdurahmanzokoro3521

4 жыл бұрын

Fact's

The crazy thing is, the real Ed Kemper was actually about 4 inches taller than the actor. Must have been absolutely terrifying to have been in the same room as him.

@Dyrson

2 жыл бұрын

he's still alive i think

@Vadim_Slastihin

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dyrson yep

@jayxfrost8987

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dyrson yeah he’s in his early 70’s I think

@EvilAlucard13

2 жыл бұрын

He's not that terrifying. Aside from his proclivity for murdering young women, he's actually a coward and very soft spoken

@arjunsuresh4286

2 жыл бұрын

actually he never meant any harm to men as he had no interest. considering that he was sexually frustrated and he was frustrated with his mom verbal abuse, he wanted to show his aggression on women. so these guys were safe. There was an incident where a female psychologist came to interview him. the interview was going good for like 15 mins or so. he was calm and was answering like any normal guy. but he all of a sudden stood up and started shouting angrily at her. as if he wanted to rip her up. thank God the officers were there to restrict him back to his cell.

My favourite moment in the show was right before they talked to Manson, they went and visited Kepmer. He was reading a book and recording it on tape. That's an amazing detail because the real life Kemper did hundreds of recordings of books for blind people. He was not only really really good at it but he was the people's favourite reader. Many have praised him as their favourite reader. And it was just a small detail in the show they didn't even say what he was doing.

@roojackaroo8517

2 жыл бұрын

This was while he was in prison?

@BoBSoN190

2 жыл бұрын

@@roojackaroo8517 yuuup :D

@rosered103

2 жыл бұрын

@@roojackaroo8517 Yes, and he still does the 'reading books' for the blind and also I believe some E-books.

@randallflagg3700

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosered103 - Yep, I've been interested in reading his narrations of Star Wars 4/5/6 and "Dune 4: The God Emperor of Dune". But unless you have contacts at Vacaville's "Blind Projects" (they're the ones who have literally *hundreds* of his "e-books"), it's going to be tough to find them. I believe the only one they've ever released was his reading of "Flowers in the Attic" by V. C. Andrews, but there was too much controversy and it brought some unsavory attention to their associations, so they decided not to upload any of the others. There are obviously rumors that some of the people at the associations have family/close ones that have managed to upload some of the e-books for profit, since lots of people who are fascinated by serial killers ("murberabilia") are willing to pays 10s of thousands of $ for a single e-book, especially if it stays exclusive... It's a complicated affair, lots of money is involved and collectors are always on the lookout for a leak...

@rosered103

2 жыл бұрын

@@randallflagg3700 Thank you for your time in the added info!

The normalcy of the real killer actually makes him creepier than the actor.

@abramslion1

3 жыл бұрын

Actor more creepy then the real .

@TacosYBurritos8P

3 жыл бұрын

Yes thank you! So many people comment the opposite. The real killer is so much more in command and more in or “present” in his cold bloodedness. The actor seems normal trying to be creepy. The real killer is more unsettling in his measured tone.

@steveaustin6608

3 жыл бұрын

actor was more creepier, he didn't show any emotion...also his voice was more relaxed.

@alecjones4676

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. If there's one major thing I have to knock the show for, it's trying to rev up the creep factor on the killers. In real life what makes them so disturbing is how normal they seem. Especially when the real Edmund Kemper cries when talking about his mother - you really don't expect that level of emotion from somebody capable of beheading and raping (in that ORDER) their own mother.

@JDdr86

3 жыл бұрын

@@alecjones4676 He is NOT A PRIMARY PSYCHOPATH, GOD-DAMNED!

The real Ed is so.... human. Mindhunter ed has this eery stillness in his emotion. The real ed talks the way your best friend would. I understand why the cops did not believe ed at first.

@bluesborn

4 жыл бұрын

I agree David.

@mariababenko

4 жыл бұрын

It’s easy for a psychopath to play emotions. Most of them don’t feel regret, but know what to say to make others believe them. And for my taste many of the things he said seemed over acted by him.. I am talking about the real Ed.

@maroonhamsa707

4 жыл бұрын

fr this is so scary

@megan5495

4 жыл бұрын

And I like that the actor didn't play it like that. Wouldn't have seemed believable.

@aaliyahetc.6687

4 жыл бұрын

I mean he is a human. He just gave in to his evil side sadly

Incredible show, so sad Netflix dropped it after only 2 seasons. And they wonder why people drop their subscriptions. Netflix needs to focus on the really successful shows and dump a lot of the cheap dross that seems to litter their content choices.

@Maryana1466

Жыл бұрын

Netflix didnt drop it. Fincher just got tired of doing the show and he considered the rating rather low. But he said that it just a break.

@fleshsuitman

Жыл бұрын

He is thinking about season three now.

@Kruppt808

Жыл бұрын

i am sure Netflix didn't go hmmmm, a show that universally everyone who watches it loves, nah dump it. Lets do another inane reality dating show.

@garyhighley9022

Жыл бұрын

@@fleshsuitman oh man..fingers crossed

@tjwhisenhunt1089

Жыл бұрын

@@Kruppt808 yeah, but u know Netflix. It’s not about the critical acclaim, it’s about the viewership and money to them. They’re letting the best show on their platform slip out of their hands bc people would rather wait another 3 years until the next season of stranger things premiers while ignoring an underrated masterpiece

Not only did this guy get Ed Kemper terrifying right, he somehow made him LIKEABLE. I cant get over how good of an actor this guy is

@Cabesandia

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not trying to say that the real Ed Kemper is likeable, but I think he's way more likeable in real life than in the show.

@biswajeetpillai1202

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cabesandia that's the reason they give him a little creepy vibe so people do not start fangirling over him

@thethrowawaythatstayed7055

Жыл бұрын

That’s one of the scary things about Kemper. He seems likeable until you know what he did!

@AltamashKhan1605

Жыл бұрын

@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 he has articulation skills that can impress people

@Mikey_The-Pikey

Жыл бұрын

He was really a decent guy. I think they should of released him

The actor is actually creepier than the real Ed Kemper...if that were even possible 😳

@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733

4 жыл бұрын

He’s a helluva an actor

@Eden_M

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 word

@griffinsebastian3898

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 did the actor overreacted his character as Edmund kemper?

@usmseawright

4 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way, but to me that makes it more unsettling. The actual serial killer just seems like a slightly awkward but very nice guy.

@woopwoop1013

4 жыл бұрын

His speaking cadence is actually creepier to real life Edmund

Mindhunter is a masterpiece and i cannot understand why a lot of people think it is boring. Are they stupid or what?!

@poojajoshi1104

3 жыл бұрын

Right

@onenationundergod7293

3 жыл бұрын

It’s like a old Italian film. They set things up well. Plus this generation is used to having something in 5 secs

@giuliva

3 жыл бұрын

@@onenationundergod7293 exactly!!! They can’t wait.. not appreciating the beauty of dialogue...

@DJ-ov2it

3 жыл бұрын

I dont like the portrayal of Kemper. I find it stereotypical. Its just the usual creepy creep. Another "copy" of many similar antagonists. And as such because of its repetitiveness of other similar characters boring. A more lifelike portrayal would have had a more "documentary"-effect and for me therefore been more interesting.

@simloverfever

3 жыл бұрын

I liked the first season but 2nd season was idk.... it was bad. Didnt have a good ring to it?

Can't believe they canceled this show. Such a shame, great series.

@pullupparker6110

2 жыл бұрын

It’s coming back

@davidmills7046

2 жыл бұрын

@@pullupparker6110 I'm not seeing anything concrete but I am reading that they're in discussions so that's hopeful. Until I see something from the actors or Netflix I'm not going to torture myself.

@minhchaupho8955

2 жыл бұрын

No, it was not cancelled, but they had no idea when it would come back either. So I guess, we wait for now.

@TheaTheGenius

2 жыл бұрын

@@minhchaupho8955 As far as I read, Fincher felt exhausted filming the show. It took a lot out of him to write such a complex show, and dedicate so much time to researching real life cases and recreating them for the small screen. He also wanted to focus on different projects, so there's that. I honestly hope he comes back to it, cause this show is such a fucking masterpiece. It was like seeing a Forensic Psychology book play out on TV.

@heromantis9785

2 жыл бұрын

Is it coming back i need to know:(

Kemper was my favorite in the whole show. It’s amazing how this actor somehow made me look forward to every scene involving a serial killer. He seemed so strangely friendly. Amazing job by the actor!

This show on Netflix is a gem so underrated

@redpillchristopher8790

4 жыл бұрын

Season 2 is awesome came out today.

@octaviolove

4 жыл бұрын

manhunt: Unabomber is great as well

@KentuckyWaterfall13

4 жыл бұрын

I just finished the first season it’s super underrated.

@user-qi1nn9vg3x

4 жыл бұрын

zephyra well considering a lot of people I know don’t watch it and me just browsing on luck I do say it’s a gem sooo.. yeah

@user-qi1nn9vg3x

4 жыл бұрын

baste jimenez I’ll check it out

When they overlay their voices saying the same thing, I get chills. What an actor. This is an incredible character study- this is a very talented guy.

@emmalake1653

3 жыл бұрын

@Shaxx I'm sorry you didn't have that experience! Everyone can have their own opinions about movies, and that's awesome. I hope you have an awesome day today 🥰

@fluffydolphins4297

3 жыл бұрын

Shaxx it’s not meant to be the same moron

@vidhijain3150

3 жыл бұрын

Shaxx no actor is supposed to portray some bits of the original but also add some of his own to make the audience more gripping thus most of us found him better than the original because the way his movements and speech attracted us like he made sure he looked slow motion creepy intelligent guy. He is an actor not an imitator

@footlongfabo

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh I didn’t think he was very convincing at all. Found his portrayal incredibly inaccurate

@cindybeaton2103

3 жыл бұрын

David Tenant in Des is going to BLOW YOUR MIND

It's a shame that Netflix did not make a third season. That show was so good.

@Mom2boys-2

Жыл бұрын

They really left us wanting to know how they were going to approach BTK.

@robh7800

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t Netflix’s fault.. the creator walked away and released everyone from their contracts

@melissasalasblair5273

Жыл бұрын

Yes 😭

The common thing about both the real and acted Ed is that he doesn't care. He knows what he is, he knows _why_ he did the things he did, but he just doesn't care. Frankly, someone who knows the reason why they murder and does it anyway, completely emotionlessly, scares me far more than someone who commits violence in the heat of the moment.

@needlessToo

2 жыл бұрын

That's the definition of psychopath. They don't have the same emotional response as other people. They can mimic empathy but can't really understand it.

@downsjmmyjones101

2 жыл бұрын

I think he does care. He tried to resist the urge to kill. He didn't want to but he gave in to it.

@outis439-A

Жыл бұрын

I dont agree. I think when you see the Mind Hunter thing, it shows a pompous, narcissistic and self assured individual but the real interview shows a person talking about the details of the crime with such conviction they are even brought to tears. That conviction, the detail he chooses to go to shows his narcissism but I guess they couldn't show it like that. Oh well.

@frekitheravenous516

Жыл бұрын

You know Ed personally ? I mean, that is a very fist on the table assessment. I am not standing up for what he did, but unless you been thru the same circumstances growing up, which i have, then you don't know what the guy thinks, feels or cares about.

@SamStone1964

Жыл бұрын

@@outis439-A Exactly. I know nothing about this show or these people but I thought the acting was terrible. He just rote learned the lines and acted all arrogant. The real person was deeply disturbed and I felt his pain when he described his mother rejecting him. I have zero sympathy but I have deep compassion for the human being. I had zero interest in the character being portrayed. Now I'll go watch the actual interview. I always want to hear about their childhood.

He deserves an Emmy nomination for this role, he nailed it! I got chills everytime he was on screen. I hope we see a bit more of Kemper next season.

@Shteno

6 жыл бұрын

This is an act for an Emmy nomination? You obviously REALLY, REALLY DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ACTING! Fuckin hell! Even someone blind could have 'SEEN' how bad that acting is all by itself, let alone an impersonation of the real Ed.... Boy...this world is really really & totally polluted with stupidity...that's why they make such idiotic shows, 'cause there are so many exceptionally stupid ppl out there, who know shit about anything! One could teach a donkey easier than someone like you!

@DriscolDevil

6 жыл бұрын

You jelly?

@wiimzy

6 жыл бұрын

Woah dis Shteno guy super jelly. Would defo search his house for some severed heads.

@tp5985

6 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%

@tp5985

6 жыл бұрын

your an idiot lol

The real one is more 'normal' while the dramatised one is intentionally chilling!

@yasisoufi

4 жыл бұрын

ryadh456 ‘normal’ ...

@samfosdick9874

4 жыл бұрын

No kidding! Brrrr

@colestubing3744

4 жыл бұрын

Mike AKA Patches you realize that’s what sociopaths do? Pretend to show regret and emotion to trick people

@jgar2193

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree the actor didnt pull it off hes trying to hard

@colestubing3744

4 жыл бұрын

Mike AKA Patches oh ok

It feels like Ed Kemper is acting as a human and the actor is acting as a serial killer

@surduadrian9318

4 ай бұрын

Nice one

Once you realize that the real Ed Kemper was also putting on an act, this gets really meta. Ed is a genius beyond comprehension. The ability to compartmentalize like this for many decades is incredible.

@d.d.1397

Жыл бұрын

He was putting on an act?

@gotgodcomplex1874

8 ай бұрын

"Genius" is an odd way of phrasing it.

@MisTTwisted

8 ай бұрын

​@@gotgodcomplex1874Well his IQ score literally puts him in genius category so what's weird about it? Are you one of those people that think being bad equals not being smart or your inability to accept someone as smart because it feels morally wrong for you to give a bad person credit for something like that? Because let me tell you, facts don't care about your feelings.

@gotgodcomplex1874

6 ай бұрын

@MisTTwisted 1. IQ is bullshit. 2. No, I'm not. I just don't think that "crafty" or "manipulative" automatically makes someone a literal genius. Your snarky comment and false assumption just makes you look like a jackass.

@derkeheath5172

6 ай бұрын

Kemper is a true rarity - a serial killer with REAL intelligence, though he was so socially retarded that he tended to come across as a bit of an idiot. I hate the myth of the super intelligent serial killer. Even Ted Bundy was a bit of a dim-wit - not nearly as smart as people seem to think.

One of Netflix’s greatest pieces of art.

@NerdyGamerReacts

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly Netflix might be canceling this show and any other that might get 3 season's because they don't wanna spend the money on a show for more than that, (which is completely idiotic to me), I hope Netflix doesn't do something this stupid, because from what I can tell, Mindhunter is one of their best shows, why cancel it?

@nross3101

4 жыл бұрын

@@NerdyGamerReacts Pas sûr ! David Fincher a déjà ses 5 saisons en tête !

@sheenaevans6747

4 жыл бұрын

@andrew I completely agree. I have been waiting for a couple of days off work together so I could binge and not be concerned if I stayed up late (all night) and get through season 2 and it did not disappoint! Utterly brilliant series. It's rumoured there are 5 seasons and I truly hope so

@Andrew-hx1rd

4 жыл бұрын

@@sheenaevans6747 Amen! I really hope we don't have to wait another two years for the next season. ;)

@Andrew-hx1rd

4 жыл бұрын

@@NerdyGamerReacts lame! I really hope that is just all hype. I was watching an interview of the 3 main actors and they confirmed 5 more seasons. So idk ....

I feel like the real Ed has a lot more energy in his voice and speaks very fluently. The actor talks a bit slower and actually seems creepier.

@alberto3814

4 жыл бұрын

@I put the 'hot' in psychotic they really wanted to show his talking/locution habiliteies. that clearly worked well for the series, as Ed is scary but sometimes even funny when talking about cruel killings. am i that strange for just wanting to meet him? i mean, he's still alive, he doesn't look that terrible to me, even the way he turned himself in, it looks human coming from a mostrous serial killer.

@alberto3814

4 жыл бұрын

@I put the 'hot' in psychotic i would love to send him an email, even tho he would not respond, do you know how to do that?

@alberto3814

4 жыл бұрын

@I put the 'hot' in psychotic yeah, in the mean time since we had talked, i did some research on it, he has plenty of reasons to not respond. It would not be viable for sending him a letter from Brazil to there, because he probably doesn't even read them. But this was good to know.

@alberto3814

4 жыл бұрын

@I put the 'hot' in psychotic I find it strange that i am called an fan, i think it's more like a fascination about him. I mean, he is cruel murderer, right?

@alberto3814

4 жыл бұрын

@I put the 'hot' in psychotic I perfectly understand, because i sometimes see people saying "follower", which is even stranger.

Absolutely jaw-dropping. This performance keeps coming back to my mind from time to time and to think he got robbed of every award during that awards season. Anyway, Cameron Britton has got something no award could give him which is love for his chosen craft and undeniable competence to deliver it.

@hw5091

11 ай бұрын

he wasn't even close. it's a really bad impersonation. He had hours of footage, and managed to fuck it up from cadence, to delivery.

Cameron Britton captured Kemper's mannerisms and coldness, and yet manages to make him warmer and more accessible--it serves the drama well. I enjoyed every second of Mindhunter, it's very detail and compelling. I love how they take time to explore each character while moving the story along. let's hope Fincher and Netflix bring back the show in the not so distant future.

@marijafrankovic1959

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like britton actualy did a little opposite of what you said, the show makes ed a very emotionless cold figure and the real ed was a warm and aproachable guy

@Aethelhadas

10 ай бұрын

@@marijafrankovic1959 i hope you mean the real ed successfully 'portrayed' himself as warm.

@thomaslytle5519

10 ай бұрын

@@marijafrankovic1959 Warm and approachable guy? You cannot be serious. Wow 😂

I got goosebumps when the two clips overlapped

@fidosmum4571

6 жыл бұрын

Aritro Roy whatt?

@douglaconti7113

6 жыл бұрын

Aritro Roy me 2..uncannily similar if NOT... Exact.

@kyleeconrad

5 жыл бұрын

Aritro Roy Mere tooooz!!!! Every time!

@Mirkhudayev

5 жыл бұрын

@@fidosmum4571 what is the goosebump?

@Theakker3B

5 жыл бұрын

Why? Because of how different they are?

Love how they made his footsteps so heavy. It was a weird but effective way to show how intimidating someone is.

The actor is more flamboyant and “friendly”, while the real ed is hyper-verbal and assertive with his emotions and ideas.

@chez881

2 жыл бұрын

I agree I don't see it as a great fit.

@krisscanlon4051

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly very matter of fact real EK is...the actor makes him into something else perhaps artist licensing.

@Laura_Crawfield_Valo

4 ай бұрын

I agree!

I think this is my first time actually seeing the video of the real Ed Kemper, and I can't help but notice how he separates himself from his crimes. "Six young women, dead," "The people who were later dead," "the regret that came later, would've, not had to be," lots of passive language.

@hazyspirits3177

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what narcissists do. They can’t accept responsibility for their actions. He blamed his mother. A lot of us had shitty up bringings, however, we don’t go out and commit mass murder.

@vengeance160

3 жыл бұрын

@@hazyspirits3177 Why it can't be both? Every good lie always have some basis from truth. When considering his mother being responsible for his mental issues, nobody shrugs off automatically the responsibility of the killing from the killer himself. Some people actually do have very harmful parents, and they do not end up being healthy. Mostly what will happen, they will develop depression, stress and anxiety disorders. There is a very good chance of some parents being too extreme on their kids, and they might become the next Ed Kemper.

@hotdogwater7037

3 жыл бұрын

he separates cuz the one time he doesn't use passive language, he starts crying. and i can tell the difference between sociopathic crocodile tears and real crying, and hes genuinely choking back sobs when he said "i knew i was gonna kill her". people that use crocodile tears do it for attention and manipulation; people that really are crying dont want people to see them crying. he downplays it, stopping himself instead of putting on a show

@hellovallis

3 жыл бұрын

I have only seen clips of the show so I don't know if the actor ever cries, but I think the real footage of Ed trying hard not to cry is better than the interpretation of the role where he just said the line. Ed did horrible things to strangers, acting out violent fantasies aimed towards his mother. For him to verbalize the killing of his mother knowing he had planned it; to think back to the time when he thought 'I won't stop killing till she's gone'. Getting geared up for a grand ending sequence and then she just speaks to him as she would any other night. This is a story of longing to be nurtured and to get the upper hand, to humiliate the one who always humiliated him. He is so eloquent throughout the interview, so straight forward and yet for an instant he looks like a little boy. The actor was very one note in that scene in my opinion, no vulnerability. He/ the scene seems otherwise good I so I think he's capable of doing better and I'd say let's do an alternate take if I were the director/ if they did it both ways I'd pick the emotion to vary the flow of dialog.

@amrelarcher8990

3 жыл бұрын

@@hellovallis the portrayal of Ed Kemper (or all the serial murderers in the series) is a moral/ethical dilemma. how far do you want to humanise them? is it right to do so? you are broadcasting a show about the scums of the earth doing heinous acts to others, do you want them to be “relatable”? Is it justified for one to blame their upbringing to multiple murders? To me the portrayal was great in terms of toeing the lines. I think it’s a conscious effort by the director and actor in saying that “This guy has a shitty upbringing but no amount of regret afterwards can justify the murders of his multiple victims, including his own mother”.

The way Ed Kemper speaks and even his body language and composure, it’s like watching a historian being interviewed in a documentary. All very matter of fact.

@abhilashapati4677

4 жыл бұрын

That's where the manipulation comes to work my friend... This guy has an IQ of 145

@WiseAilbhean

4 жыл бұрын

@@abhilashapati4677 One of these most important things this show teaches. Some channel did an analysis about this show being "Game of Dialogue". It's really takes me back to when I first saw Silence of the Lambs but on steroids.

@abhilashapati4677

4 жыл бұрын

@@WiseAilbhean you know....i have grown up watching Silence of the Lambs and Born to Kill episodes on repeat...i so needed a new show in my life...So glad mindhunter has six seasons😇😇😇

@WiseAilbhean

4 жыл бұрын

@@abhilashapati4677 Born to Kill... never saw it but I trust your judgement and style. Now I gotta watch it. XD

@abhilashapati4677

4 жыл бұрын

@@WiseAilbhean there you go... enjoy kzread.info/dash/bejne/hamb2LucddKoo8o.html

Mindhunter is excellent, especially season 1. I love all of them and how they covered the Atlanta Child Murders and Wayne Williams so accurately. This show gave me such a renewed sense of pride and excitement about majoring in Criminal Psychology.

@sl4y8r76

2 жыл бұрын

hi i dont wanna prod too much but how is the employment in that field and do you feel satisfied with it?

@daisychains4614

2 жыл бұрын

Read Killer Across The Table by John E Douglas and Mark Olshaker.

@CarrieHamptonPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

I just finished season 2 and the Atlanta child murders went on for way too long, too many episodes. Aside from the fact that it was so so so sad.

@wolfe6220

8 күн бұрын

​@@CarrieHamptonPhotographyAgree. But the portrayal of Wayne Williams was spot on. He was just as irritating as the real Wayne was back then (and still is).

One of the best series I've ever seen. Have binged watched seasons 1& 2 twice & could watch again. Reading the book the series based on now also. Looking forward to season 3

Cameron Britton has mentioned in several interviews that the creator didn't want an impersonation of Kemper, just the essence. They don't want to pay homage to the killers they portray on screen. Given that factual tidbit, I think Britton NAILED IT.

@CharlieTooHuman

4 жыл бұрын

Some of the dialogue is word for word from his recorded interviews... They just stripped the empathic facade to show true horror behind the mask.

@kingking-lg6ki

4 жыл бұрын

nah he actually didnt nail it. kemper is aware, honest, in some moments animated when going into detail - recanting how he felt to a T when he was doing what he was doing. Even when crying when speaking about his mom, it showed that ultimately, the catalyst of his undoing was lack of love from his mother and the killing was outward expression of craving love from her. because he couldnt get it, he hated and killed women. he wasn't detached from his reality. he was remorseful but, again, honest. the actor's portrayal was far too comfortable.....and in moments of great clarity, far too cold and detached. the beginning where he speaks about cops loving him.....he was far too pleased with the idea of being clever....even coming off smug in moments(a smirk when saying he wasnt an expert). Kemper didnt come off this way. He was indifferent to it as he saw it as a necessity. and when asked about it, he showed indifference. even reaching for that pizza was cringe because Kemper wouldnt have actually wanted to be distracted by pizza to take his eyes off of the interviewer because he was too focused on the feeling of what he had done and conveying that message with clarity. as an actor he should have actually denied the pizza to stay with the "essense." you cant nail the essence if you dont get the foundation correct. it was a good attempt but it wasnt great by any means.

@littlesebastian4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingking-lg6ki Well, he got the part and you didn't so I wonder who the better actor is.

@kingking-lg6ki

4 жыл бұрын

@@littlesebastian4389 who said anything about being the better actor b/w the two of us? you cant even focus on the topic properly. stay out of grown-folk conversations.

@littlesebastian4389

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingking-lg6ki Well you criticise him like you could do any better and like you are an authority on acting. You try to imply I am a child, yet you do not even use proper grammar or capitalise your sentences. What it you actor name and what shows films have you been in so we can judge your acting credentials... or are you, like I suspect, just a drama student at a high school?

The actors for Ed and Charlie were both phenomenal. This show is so underrated. I hope we see more of it

The actor got Kempers voice down perfectly. When they are played together they sync up nicely. Bravo to him. He must have done his research.

Biggest difference is how the actor tends to lean backwards, while the real Ed Kemper is leaning forward enthusiastically.

@xochitllee24

6 жыл бұрын

yes! he's eager to talk about his career killing.

@CcBloom777

6 жыл бұрын

Nice spotted detail, I agree

@BillShatner31

6 жыл бұрын

Also the actor smiles and laughs more while Kemper's demeanor was more serious and ernest

@boxlessthinking6787

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure leaning backwards was specifically directed. Audiences have become desensitized to a killer's enthusiasm for murder, or at least I have (which is messed up in its own way), it's the casualness of a murderer that makes people's skin crawl.

@CcBloom777

6 жыл бұрын

Boxless Thinking totally, that's what I was going to say. I think the real Kemper displays a casualness through a specific mix of words and emotions that are ever-so-slight, and nobody can mimic it. So, to convey his casualness, the actor was directed to lean back.

God that moment where they both say "this fantastic passion" makes a chill run up my spine every time.

@m_gwb

3 жыл бұрын

it aligned so perfectly, chilling

@helloiamem

3 жыл бұрын

What's more I read this comment as they said it lol.

@maxanderson9293

3 жыл бұрын

When he hugs Holden in the hospital, I got a panic attack myself.

@anushka7027

2 жыл бұрын

If someone wants to see it 2:36

This show is dark. It has me hooked. Ed Kemper is probably the best portrayal I have ever seen. This man...he even uses the same facial expressions, hand movements, voice inflections. It's chilling. He needs more roles. But I'll probably always see him as Ed.

Love this series, really hope they go ahead with a season 3

Absolutely chilling.

@kylepollock9712

6 жыл бұрын

Chilling how? It's not like this actor was going in blindly. I'm sure he watched these interviews so I'm a bit taken back when people say that they're surprised at how accurate everything is? I mean, isn't this the point of non-fiction? Even though, part of the show is fictionalized which makes me thing of the opening scene of fargo.

@kenttheboomer721

6 жыл бұрын

I guess size really DOES matter.............

@factotums

6 жыл бұрын

I honestly cannot tell whether he is showing serious remorse in the end clip or if he is doing a precise imitation of what he knows that is supposed to look like. Even the most arrogant psychopaths usually give themselves away with some sort of tell. I think that not knowing makes it even more disturbing, like someone method acting to the point where they cross over into becoming what they are portraying.

@TotalRookie_LV

6 жыл бұрын

Not really, I find those murderers boring, self-obsessed ("..because what she did to me...", well, world is big to focus on you alone, dummy, so hardly anybody cares!), damaged. Sort of proves, we are biochemical machines, most of us are in working order, killers just happen to have faulty brains for one reason or another.

I love how they were just casually eating pizza with ed kemper Lol

@timo.6634

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Little things like that tend to get in the way of a good friendship...

@Videogamewrestling22

4 жыл бұрын

@@youknowwhoiam2771 lol

@Videogamewrestling22

4 жыл бұрын

@@timo.6634 yes, it duz! Lol

@Solar-Atlas

3 жыл бұрын

This made me want pizza.

@hyphoon709

3 жыл бұрын

like he said he had a very strong connection to police officers for some reason. He just was on the same wave length with them lots of times, he probably does get some special treatment in prison tbh

I love how they didn't just made him repeat everything in the same manner. Absolutely love that show.

Great series Mindhunter !! Loved every second of it. Everything is really nicely putted with the real life Edmund Kemper, Gene Devier, Wayne Williams and more. Much recommended.

Interesting he cries when bringing up him killing his mother. Brings a whole new depth to his character that the fictional Ed Kemper lacks, or maybe it was ignored for cinematic purpose. Fictional Ed seems less human, if that’s even possible.

@bozdogan_

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was intentional. They didnt wanted the viewer to empathise with or feel pity for him if thats possible tho like you said.

@nishaantkalra1083

4 жыл бұрын

The fact that real ed kemper cried makes him lesser human! He didnt cry because he felt bad for what he did to his mother, he did so that he could gain sympathy of the BSU agents and portray his mother as the real convict

@jaliz2000

4 жыл бұрын

My opinion is that the actor portrays Kemper's alter ego or the monster/ killer , or the truth about Kemper's nature. Kemper appeared to put on a show as to who he believes himself to be ( sensitive, empathetic ). That couldn't be further from the truth. The killer did not feel any empathy in the moment he chose to kill those women. I believe he sees himself as the victim of a a bad upbringing.

@emi7916

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaliz2000 I think you hit the nail on the head. Too many people buy into the real Ed Kemper's story that he chooses to give simply because he's well spoken. The actor's portrayal purposefully cast doubt on it. Back when Ed Kemper was arrested it was an interesting time in the field of psychology, in that men who committed violent acts were often asked about their mother, and how she raised them. It removed a lot of the blame for them, and I think Ed Kemper capitilised on that trend of thinking. It's all a load of crap of course, as many people who have mean, abrasive or narcissistic parents do not go on to murder a bunch of people. That's a choice.

@dysplasiaanaplasia4128

4 жыл бұрын

Well if he only killed his mother for whatever reason n turned himself in , also not killing other women I still could think about sympathizing with his situation but he went on killing other women too. He was a loser who couldn't get any girl also badly raised... he killed to prove to himself that he was worthy of something. Makes me sick. As if noone in this world go through trauma n everyone is going on killing people. He was a skilled psychopath who lacked any empathy.

The actor is more terrifying than the real Ed kemper

@AloofOof

4 жыл бұрын

actor is way less emotional and keeps the poker face and methodical tone at all times... gives a bit different feeling about the person

@BlackVery486

4 жыл бұрын

Real Ed Kemper seems like just one of our neighborhood next door. Who loves watching TV show eating frozen foods after work.

@titaniumquarrion9838

4 жыл бұрын

An actor more terrifying? The real Ed murdered his paternal grand parents at age 15 and was released at age 21. After he supposedly wanted to stop murdering he killed his mom and her friend, had sex with own mothers head then turned himself in... He was a necrophile who had had sex with his other female victim's bodies.

@gdubhz

4 жыл бұрын

@@titaniumquarrion9838 the actor's performance plays our more eerie than the actual real Ed Kemper. That's to dramatize and add flavor to the performance where in reality, we all know the real Kemper is the scariest because he passes for any other random "guy" you meet. Obviously.

@titaniumquarrion9838

4 жыл бұрын

@@gdubhz You can think that f you want. I don't. You forget it isn't just the actor at work on your senses. Of course music and scene tension building and lighting etc all add to that illusion if you perceive it. Theoretically the only way to find out would be to put the real Kemper and the actor into a room with you at the same time (given you could time travel so they were the same age) and have a chat and see which one terrifies you more. Having been around people that have killed other human beings in real life vs pretending they did I am confident from my experience the real Kemper would make your hairs stand up... Happy to agree to disagree though.

This man stood up from a hospital bed and made me hold my breath.

Even the voices are the same! The actor who played Ed did an absolutely astounding job!

the actor that played Kemper was sam damn good!

@--sql

6 жыл бұрын

Cameron Britton

@franchi123

6 жыл бұрын

@poop fingers thank you, i was to lazy to check hes name.

@krishnablake4561

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah he is! I do think that.the real one is much less warm and child like than the show version. Seems much more cold.

@xochitllee24

6 жыл бұрын

I know and he actually looks like Seth Rogan's brother, check it out online! He has curly red hair, lmao

@enizle5

6 жыл бұрын

He's flamboyant, more like cam from modern family then the actual man. Poor attempt at glazing over the fact he was broken.

This show is the best thing Netflix has ever done. Thanks for this!

@ThomasFlight

6 жыл бұрын

Incredible craftsmanship the whole way through the season. It was great.

@Username47948

6 жыл бұрын

I had to stop at the bar scene in the first episode. They acted like they were acting, but if it was supposed to be like that they really missed the vibe

@BreakingBanter

6 жыл бұрын

Username47948 That's Fincher for you. Always a joy to watch

@GlasgowEoin2k6

6 жыл бұрын

Username47948 if you stopped watching then you are missing out on a great show

@We_Reddit

6 жыл бұрын

I think this one has legs. I used to watch house of cards and the blacklist, but they kinda fizzled out. But i would love to see James Spader do a guest (killer) appearance on Mindhunter!

Such a good series. It could go for many seasons as the 80's and 90's are full of killer material to work with

He's fascinating. The part where he was crying I thought to myself 'wow if Ed Kemper was an actor playing Ed Kemper he'd win an Oscar'. Then I realized that the real Ed Kemper is probably acting right here and he's legitimately very good at it.

This actor did an excellent job and it fit the atmosphere of the show....but, honestly, the real Edmund is much more interesting to listen too because of how matter of fact he is about what he done and you can tell he's very smart. He sounds much more self-aware, especially the way he is just talking straight through without thinking or skipping a beat.... like, he's already thought this through and understands himself because he genuinely wanted too.

@monicascott5550

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you Brian. I saw the real Ed Kemper interviewed just last week, and like you, I was blown away by how self-aware, calm, obviously intelligent and very articulate he was. As gruesome as his murders were, and let's face it, they were as base as you can get, I felt like I wanted to sit down and talk to him - and felt he would probably answer honestly. Weird!!!

@LuluTheBirb

6 жыл бұрын

Brian-84blizzle self awareness is processed in the same area of brain as empathy. So you can only imagine how frustrating it is to read. Because you don't even fucking mention it or take it into consideration with your reasoning.

@ethanordorica2808

6 жыл бұрын

Yea, he wouldn’t get tricked by cops telling him he’s too tall to work on the chp. He seems much more bumbling in the show then he does in real life.

@LauraSusanJohnson

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The real EK is much more interesting. Whether or not this "remorse" is genuine or a ploy to gain something, he is further proof that some serials cry innocent till they day they die and others at least concede that they've taken lives. No 2 serials are alike I guess.

@adamcarbo73

6 жыл бұрын

Monica Scott it may be because just looking at him outside of being a murderer, if Ed was given better parents and home life, the guy could have been a very successful and intelligent member of society. He was one shitty mother away from having a different life, a good one. Specialists must love talking to him because of the depth at which he explains every detail. I would def love to interview him. What could have been and what was.

3:06 that was perfection. They need to make a full movie with this guy, he is incredible!

@jamaicanfish7747

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That part made my mouth open and chills fluster through me

@S-fn3oe

Жыл бұрын

Odd to have a fat guy with a high voice play him though

@mikehawkertz9237

7 ай бұрын

Eh

@glp.1337

5 ай бұрын

It's a complete different persona he's portraying? Sure they made him look similar. But his entire persona is completely different.

Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

I've been rewatching the show again for probably the 4th or more time and am still hoping for at least one more season showing BTK. This actor, can't remember his name but have seen him in either other shows or movies, is phenomenal! Every detail is practically perfection and the way he gave it his all for this evil killer that truly was a serial killer not just a thought up bad guy, is *chef's kiss*

Great job with this. I was also interested in seeing the real Kemper after seeing Mindhunter. An interesting difference to me is that the real Kemper is actually easier to sympathize with. He showed what seems like actual remorse, but then again, the psychopath is expert at emulating these emotions. I wonder how much of that remorse was genuine.

@AndroidVageta1

6 жыл бұрын

I think there is a certain remorse. Maybe not quite how you or I might feel it but I think that, given his intelligence and understanding of mental trauma, he gets what he did and the negative impacts he's had on those close to his victims. He's turned down parole hearings since 1981...that was nearly 40 years ago...and he's refused them since all under the context that HE, HIMSELF, has CHOSEN not to attend them because he knows he isn't fit to return to society. He know's he's crazy and that there's something wrong with him. Considering that he knows this I would say that he's aware of his condition, accepts it, and knows that he's a "negative", so to speak. So whether or not he feels remorse, who knows, but he certainly can see his condition and has the...courtesy...to keep himself away from us.

@AndroidVageta1

6 жыл бұрын

Upbringing probably wouldn't have had much of a difference. Plenty of people go through CRAZY SHIT in their lives and don't kill others. However, I will say, that while he has turned down hearings it's hard to say if, given that he's manipulative and intelligent, he could just be stalling all these years to build credibility. Might be released when he's 73 in a few years just to go kill again. Who knows?

@Thespadassin54

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks to him ! I'm French so i'm very far to US and the 50 serial ;)

@UberTankred

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Kemper knew how much of it was genuine. Man is a curious animal.

@lunasee7007

6 жыл бұрын

Logical Reason didn’t u watch the whole show Mindhunter? Most of these sociopaths were created by their mothers.

It's amazing how the real Ed will be remembered like the "nicer" serial killer for a lot of people that don't see how he is manipulative as hell.

@bilalldemir4198

3 жыл бұрын

dear brother I want to leave you a message from here. "Please reach the truth!" there is clear news about him from the future, which is his proof, please be brave in the face of facts, this is not a coincidence, think well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6SM09OdgNW_gbQ.html

@manwithnoname8229

3 жыл бұрын

That is not the problem. He may appear to be manipulative but he know what he did is wrong, he admits he doesn't belong in society and doesn't want to go back. He's not a narcissist, his mother was. Kemper doesn't see himself as the victim of the whole scenario, he just seems himself as a victim of a bad childhood. With that I agree. Growing up with abusive grandparents and a mother is what made him that way. If he was narcissistic, he would never have turned himself in. His hatred for his mother is the real motive for all his murders, not an unbridled lust nor to seek attention, its demonstrated by his actions. After he killed his mother, he lost his urge to kill as if everything was over for him. He had no purpose left. That's why he turned himself in.

@meinbow

3 жыл бұрын

@@manwithnoname8229 he knows how to talk. He is clearly saying "bruhs i know i killed a lot of people and that's wrong, but did you meet my mother? She is a monster! She made me the way I am so if there is anyone to blame then blame her"

@manwithnoname8229

3 жыл бұрын

@@meinbow He blames himself and his mother

@LukasOfTheLight

2 жыл бұрын

@@meinbow To be fair, it's insane how many killers have traumatic and unhealthy parent figures. There's clearly an element of cycle of abuse in these things a lot of the time, it would be silly not to address that just to pile as much hatred onto the criminal as possible.

2:58 OMG! This speeching overlaps gave me goosebumps!

Foi impressionante a atuação desse ator, deu até medo de tão parecido. A voz, a velocidade da voz, o jeito de falar, de olhar, perfeito.

@barbarashombay2077

2 жыл бұрын

Perfeito

@raymondfrye5017

8 ай бұрын

Ator multi-talento

You can tell exactly that he's playing kemper, however the greatest thing about this is that he makes it his own character too. The best artists do that. Part of what makes the show what it is.

@kristyl6578

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, glad somebody pointed that part out!!

@christinetracy4829

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Never thought of it that way.

@vidhijain3150

3 жыл бұрын

Yesss honestly watching Mindhunter Ed was more interesting. I was honestly dying for his scenes. I wanted to see him more. That’s how good he got me gripping on his act

I have seen a lot of comments talking about how the real Kemper shows much more emotion and what seems to be true remorse, but the thing is, if you read "Mindhunter" (the book written by John Douglas about his career as a criminal profiler, upon which the show is based on) Douglas talks about how Kemper was always tranquil, matter-of-fact, casual and had a sharp sense of humor in the interviews. Douglas says the only moment Kemper showed emotion during the interviews was when talking about how his mother mistreated him (which the show correctly portrays). Otherwise he was entirely undisturbed by his detailed account of events and never showed real remorse. The dark joke about how "mom always wanted people to look up to her" is actually something he said, according to Douglas. Why is he so emotional in the interview here, then? Well, here's the catch: Douglas didn't interview him *with a camera, for a tv network*. What you're seeing here is a finely crafted performance, both on the part of Cameron Britton's fictionalized Kemper and on the part of Kemper himself.

@vingdynasty

6 жыл бұрын

I have read that book as well. I couldn't sleep for weeks after I read it.

@alyaa1308

6 жыл бұрын

Matheus Arruda so none of the interviews shown are real?

@matheusarruda6462

6 жыл бұрын

Veruca Salt no they're real. What I'm saying is that the real Ed Kemper is playing up his perfomance for a camera.

@TheGreatGodPan

6 жыл бұрын

He has chosen to turn down parole hearings multiple times though, I think he's fully aware of how perverse and messed up he is and is disgusted by it. He's not a true psycopath, I can think of few serial killers who truly are/were (Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy were undoubtedly psychopaths with absolutely zero empathy). I think he was very well-played in the show and the Kemper scenes are the highlight for me (haven't finished it yet), but I think they overdid the creepiness a little, the real Kemper was better at putting himself across as a "nice", normal guy. It's easy to judge what the killers were like purely based on the sensationalist TV interviews with them, though, you could say the same about the Jeffrey Dahmer interviews.

@JonShade-fy2gm

6 жыл бұрын

Kemper absolutely is a psychopath. He's incredibly intelligent and articulate, and knows exactly how to come off as benign and even capable of empathy. But he didn't turn himself in due to empathy for his victims. Psychopaths actually can experience some degree of emotion for others, and they most certainly do for themselves. But it's not the same as true empathy, on any level. He's possessed with a very high, unique intelligence and a deep self-awareness which he articulates and expresses very genially, but this is exactly how he manipulates. He knows how to use his intelligence and "easygoing" nature very shrewdly. He's fascinating to listen to, because he seems so self-contained that he almost -- just almost -- comes off as even tranquil. He has the listener's attention the entire time, and not solely due to the subject matter. He's a very good storyteller (the extended 1991 interview really shows this). That interview of him is really the one to watch very carefully. He also possesses a great wit, which disarms you as you listen to his stories of other inmates, specifically one he slowly "trains" by employing several tactics over time -- complete manipulation to win the trust of said inmate. His descriptions of this are very amusing and witty, until you realize he's got you so caught in his web of charm and distraction that you've become completely off-guard, and feel off-kilter -- THAT'S when I stopped and froze, and realized just how wholly terrifying his trickery really is. It was an awful, chilling moment. He's more frightening to me than watching, say, Bundy, because Bundy is so overtly cagey and cryptic, and doesn't attempt to mask his awful little expressions of smugness, delight, or disdain. Joel Rifkin reminds me just a touch of Kemper -- Rifkin too comes off as very straightforward, benign, a little nebbishy, even almost bored, but he still can't contain the menacing little smirk that crosses his face at times. And he's not nearly as interesting, sharp, or charismatic as Kemper. I think Kemper did genuinely mourn for the self he could have been. Especially when he was much younger, and was really able to feel that huge stretch of future in front of him, the waste of the rest of his life in prison. He knew how smart he was, and how, under different circumstances, he could have had a different life. He knew the tragedy of his perversity, and he did stop it by turning himself in. And in that way, he showed real emotion, regret, a true grasp of who he had become. But that's still not capacity for empathy -- empathy for his victims, and the incomprehensible suffering he caused. He feels emotions solely for himself -- NOT for others. Kemper is really the master of total self-containment, clarity, openness... he gives you the feeling that you can ask or tell him anything -- and nothing harmful could come from it. This is exactly what made/makes him so dangerous.

SEASON 3 IS NEEDED.

Excellent editing

Ed Kemper’s actor should win a best actor for this series

@SteveJobzz

4 жыл бұрын

The real Ed Kemper should win a Emmy for that cry in that interview. Goddamn!

@luisaguilar7997

4 жыл бұрын

Man you gotta see the one that played Manson, side by side. He also played him in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I agree, this guy was absolutely brilliant, it’s all in the subtleties

@m_gwb

3 жыл бұрын

unfortunately, he didn't 🙁 Cameron Britton is such an amazing actor

@fojemo1661

3 жыл бұрын

The one who played Manson is amazing too.

You almost forget that he's a complete psycho when you listen to his calm, well spoken manner. That's how the get you I guess.

@jac1207

6 жыл бұрын

That's part of the intrigue. We're social animals. Serial Killers, especially the intelligent and well controlled ones, are a dark twisted representation of what makes us all human. Everyone has had bad experiences and mental/physical trauma. All of us has had some thought of horrible or dark fantasies. But the gap between the normal person actually doing it and the killers that do go through with it. That just taps into a question of who we are and what makes us tick.

@majiita0173

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Williams the point of the show is to find out why they did the things they did, killers like Ed started out in this world just like us, it was how they were brought up during their childhood that made them fucked up. The characters try to see both sides, his human side and his dark side. Just because he talks and cries like that doesn’t mean he’s a psycho. I don’t mean to say your wrong at all, I’m just saying what I think. Showing a little empathy can go a long way.

@NoFaceCobain

4 жыл бұрын

If you forgot he's a killer than you must be like him because I see through that non sense

This is an incredible piece of video. Great job.

Really appreciate this channel

The actor that plays Kemper is absolutely incredible at what he does.

@user-wu2ks3xh5g

2 жыл бұрын

He was creepier than him😑😑

@nealkelly9757

2 жыл бұрын

He actually was bad here

@0cer0

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly off, yes.

@glp.1337

5 ай бұрын

Incredible at messing up the persona he's trying to portray?

@bigdawg3305

5 ай бұрын

Thank u there are a lot haters out here.

David Fincher is renowned for his efforts to perfection, sometimes re-shooting a scene dozens, if not hundreds of times (Kubrick was the same way). No way would he have let just anyone play these characters, he would have wanted as perfect a mirror image as he could get.

@bilalldemir4198

3 жыл бұрын

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@therealdoc

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilalldemir4198 First off: Fuck off, shitlord. Nobody cares about your "Top 9 facts about the Quran" video. Secondly: The actor clearly tried to follow Ed's dialogue during the interview but read it like a bored highschooler. The real Ed had emotion and had remorse for his actions, wishing he would've stopped himself sooner. In the show, it's more than obvious that they just tried to have him be this stereotypical "creeper" who's overweight, talks without emotion and very little emphasis, and is seemingly bragging about the events he partook in. It feels like the people who think this is a good act are people who watched the show first, saw the video, didn't actually watch the video, and commented "This actor, man, he did a good job!"

@DMalltheway

2 жыл бұрын

Scorsese would do that too

@rhetoric5173

2 жыл бұрын

That’s Some mirror you have in mind buddy

@6Haunted-Days

Жыл бұрын

Why dod he choose such a FAT ACTOR then?? Why not hire an actor that’s o maybe not a 100lbs FATTER than the REAL KILLER was when he gave the damn interviews?! He was AVERAGE OR THIN in those 70s interviews….. Later ones yea he gained weight but he was NEVER as fat as this actor was….ever. So kinda a weird NOT SO SMALL DETAIL to not care about ….. So yea he can’t be THAT worked up about realism and all that 🙄😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣

I have to salute your editing!

I can't explain how hard I fell inlove with this series

So many people in the comments saying that they cast an actor larger than Ed to make him seem scarier. Ed Kemper was gigantic, bigger than the actor who played him. Ed was 6'9", Cameron Britton is 6'5".

@nyx7465

5 жыл бұрын

yea actor just a fatty

@dashrirprock

5 жыл бұрын

Larger is literally bigger. Taller is not bigger. Taller just means... taller. While height confers some physical advantages (e.g., reach), combat sports are divided by weight because it's a more decisive factor. If I'm standing a foot away, I'd prefer the taller/smaller Ed versus the bigger, heavier Ed.

@ericwisel4015

5 жыл бұрын

Is** 6’9

@nickb2208

4 жыл бұрын

@JeSSEbism for real. It's only if you actually exercise as much as you eat lol. Most fat Guy's are fat and lazy/weak.

@chelseapeterson35

4 жыл бұрын

@@nyx7465 hes not actually fat... hes a lil chunky but his height supports him.

all the actors in this series were absolutly amazing

the chills i got when they spoke at the same time phenomenal

Mindhunter: Can I copy your homework? Real Ed Kemper Interview: Yeah just change it a little so teacher doesn't know

What makes real Ed more scarier to me is the fact that he really is like just anyone you see on the street, wait in the elevator with or stand beside on the bus... the serie version Ed would tingle my spidey-senses right off the bat (😂😂), but the real one Would Not. THAT is what makes him so damn scary. 😰

@DMalltheway

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why I prefer Brian Cox as Hannibal over Hopkins.

3:20 - this is the most glaring difference between real Kemper and Mindhunter Kemper. The real Ed was appearing as completely normal, casual, regular guy with normal, human emotions. Mindhunter sadly changed him into a creepy, almost emotionless dude just so he could give that more believable "serial killer" vibe. But the whole deal with Ed Kemper was that NOONE KNEW because he was so normal and friendly. if you met the Mindhunter Kemper, you would immediately think that there's something wrong with this guy.

@medome_arts

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the background music kinda helps😂

@tevinfw

3 жыл бұрын

That and it looks like he's fatter?? This is personal opinion. But I hate how productions try to keep the fine line between good character qualities and bad character qualities. In my experience, "beautiful" people are the most ugly. There was no need to make Ed fatter. He wasn't slim. But he wasn't this, neither.

@liqhtless1191

3 жыл бұрын

@@tevinfw I think the actor is just that way, i don't think they intetionally made him a fatter guy.

@xmoreminutes

3 жыл бұрын

I personally like it, the vibe the actor is giving off. In my opinion it was a conscious artistc choice; I think they were well aware of the difference.

@tomo4977

3 жыл бұрын

@@xmoreminutes I agree. The real Ed always messed with and manipulated people. The worst thing the TV show could do would be to convey Ed so exactly people would actually start to feel sorry for him. Showing him as a cold, controlling, violent individual is so much better because we see what these killers are really like with their masks off. Otherwise most people will fall for the pity game...

It's how friendly he seems that is most chilling.

This is actually my favourite show on Netflix, since I really like true crime and learning about the psychology of serial killers.

This show is a masterpiece. Cant wait for ss3.

@ianmurdoch6315

3 жыл бұрын

Mara Oliver I read it won’t be out until like 2022 or something. Sucks

@johnlucas6683

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianmurdoch6315 What?! That's too far! Damn.

@m_gwb

3 жыл бұрын

same but it's in an indefinite hold for now because the writers are busy with other shows

@boxingexpert9065

3 жыл бұрын

The protagonist is gaeeee

@m_gwb

3 жыл бұрын

Boxing Expert so whaaaaat?

The real serial killer speaks just like an FBI agent ....clear, precise, in control a head of the next question always knows the next question and the Perfectly delivered answer... That's truly the scary part of serial killers....and FBI agents

@AtlanteanVrilChad

4 жыл бұрын

The FBI is a criminal and anti American organization

@hanswurst2923

4 жыл бұрын

The FBI is likely full of sociopaths who didn't go rogue but still want to experience the thrill of the hunt.

@maxy5035

4 жыл бұрын

Sven CIA*

@alastairward2774

4 жыл бұрын

I wondered if that's what they were trying for with the opening sequence. With the emacculate tape recorder being carefully prepared for use, with flashes of the murder victims being shown.

@notymexx5451

4 жыл бұрын

Synonymous these days, really.

This show needs to come back! Such an amazing show!

That man is just incredible. I think I watched this first before anything else he was in, and every time I see him it just makes me so happy he's doing work.

It is extremely eerie to me that hes crying not for his mom dying. Not for the 6 girls dying.. but hes crying because he feels bad for himself. Truly disturbing.

@aelfswyth

3 жыл бұрын

I suppose that's because psychopaths have no empathy for others, so the only feelings they have probably center around themselves. As a "normal" person I feel that my empathy for other people is so deeply rooted, like part of my very being. It's hard to imagine existing without it. A disturbing though, as you said. Painful even.

The actor did a damn fine job. Could have been a little more expressive and emotional in a few spots but aside from that, he was impressive.

@ehsteve231

6 жыл бұрын

I'd assume that was more direction than a fault of acting. I honestly found the actor's portrayal to be creepier than the real thing due to the repression or complete lack of expression; I'm still debating whether that is a negative for drifting away from the actual Ed Kemper or a positive for sending chills down my spine. I lean towards positive.

@ScottWillsey

6 жыл бұрын

he was really dead compared to the real guy. The real guy was way creepier and more compelling.

@michaelpointek1899

6 жыл бұрын

I think they were just trying to illustrate how likable he was.

@FireClaw00

6 жыл бұрын

Scott Willsey Did we watch the same video the real guy is nowhere near as creepy he is emotional maybe it’s false but the actor shows no emotion that makes it creepier

@gilbertogomez2678

6 жыл бұрын

Actors, from what I’ve read and from interviews that I’ve seen, don’t really like to do an exact imitation. They like to throw their own twist to a character, even if that character is based on a real person.

imagine this actor watching this real interview over and over again to prepare to his role... it must have been hard

Thank you for side by side since its differ shows

Everyone saying he deserves an Emmy? I'm pleased to tell you that Cameron Britton DID in fact win a Primetime Emmy Award for Best Guest Actor! A job well done indeed.

Interesting to see that the Mindhunter portrayal makes him much more dead-eyed, and devoid of emotions, but the real Ed Kemp was much more animated in his responses. Shaking his head, emphasizing words, nodding, crying even. Maybe the series missed an opportunity to show that serial killers appear much more human than we'd like to acknowledge. The pop culture portrayal often tells us that serial killers talk in mono-tones, and feel nothing. That didn't seem to be the case for the real Ed Kemp.

@alanmont4484

6 жыл бұрын

laceyourface they just wanted to pass the felling of what is really like to face a sereal killer through the camera , maybe the real interview covered the real sensation , I had the opportunity to know how it is really like to be nearby a murderer and I can tell you it is breath taking , cause you don't really know what to expect ,what to feel , they are like pitbulls .. Reflect on that

@enochchicago5376

6 жыл бұрын

Right, I was wondering why they didn't go word for word??Not that they didn't do a fantastic job at the portrayal, but the emotion part wasn't really there...Maybe it helps fit the over all narrative of what the FBI learned and how the show will ultimately incorporate profiling...I am going out on a limb to say most serial killers don't empathize with their victims and get emotional about it.

@sophiatownsend4790

6 жыл бұрын

i feel like the show did the opposite of that. if you watch the start, you can see everyone around Ford trying to say that killers have no reason for what they are, just monsters, and we shouldn't think on them much other than how do we kill them sooner. Ed Kemper is the first to unveil that a) there's a chance people like him are preventable from a young age b) they're not all just mindless rabid dogs. He had wits, and was self aware of why he was the way he was. You're taking his stoic portrayal of Ed in the show it too literal in my opinion; as if his calm, calculated temperament is lack of remorse. Instead, what we should do as an audience is listen to his...pauses... His plea for how it all could have been prevented. You should not need someone to cry, scream, laugh to understand their emotions; there's more to it than that if you listen. And if you want people/acting to be that obvious then it defeats the premise of the show.

@alanmont4484

6 жыл бұрын

Sophie Bear You may be unsatisfied with the comparation they did between the real and the performer Kamper , but than you start to put all sereal killers a brand and say they have this and that in common , man you can't tell ... As the show passes the criminals are even more distinct ...

@laceyourface

6 жыл бұрын

Well for sure the actor playing Ed Kemper will have a more liberal interpretation of his behavior because he's an actor... I don't expect his performance to be verbatim to the real interviews. But as some other user pointed out in the comments section, it was much easier to empathize with the real Ed Kemper because he brought humanism, the actors portrayal did not. In the comparison, real Ed appears broken and thoughtful, Mind hunter Ed is cold and calculated - like every other serial killer portrayal we are used to seeing. Being faced with and empathizing for real Ed messes with your head because you might begin to actually feel bad for him - his story is as much about tragedy as the women he violated. The story behind each portrayal is the same, yet the emotions evoked by their expression is different. Also, I find it so funny that every time I comment on a film analysis video with my honest opinion and assessment, I get told by someone that something is going over my peasant head and that my understanding is basic. Its the portrayal of a REAL person who did cry, and I find it INTERESTING that some of these emotions were omitted, for whatever reason, from the show. And doesn't having characters around Ford constantly suggesting he be put down like a rabid dog rather than be reasoned with, pander way more in the form of exposition, than say, the subtleties in Kemper's demeanor and story?

The Amazing performance and accuracy he gives, It is like Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, you cannot divorce him completely from that role. Yet this is a Real Serial Killer not a composite and his Cameron's portrayal is stunning especially if you compare him to the older interviews. His appearance, all I can say is I am sure that where Ed Kemper is if Cameron was in character and dressed like that walking into that prison facility that would definitely shake up the guards.

Incredible cast!!

My friends around here all watching Riverdale and I’m like nah bro, get me some murder shows and I’m set.

@gonzothompson8118

4 жыл бұрын

shut up

@marlee7389

4 жыл бұрын

@@gonzothompson8118 what's your damage? Riverdale is a shit show. I'll take Mindhunters any day.

@Az1mn

4 жыл бұрын

Mia Darlington Regardless . I love the ideas of some criminals because they are really smart, but time was against them!

@gonzothompson8118

4 жыл бұрын

Marlee fuck riverdale too, he just sounds like a pompous bitch

@tombbbb_raid26

3 жыл бұрын

#imnotlikeothergirls

Hands down one of the best shows on Netflix and tv right now!

@rigo.acosta

5 жыл бұрын

Gerard Rallama Watching it, not that great

@mguelmndza

5 жыл бұрын

@@rigo.acosta ok edgelord

@rigo.acosta

5 жыл бұрын

Miguel Mendoza the video is bad you cringe normie

@mguelmndza

5 жыл бұрын

@@rigo.acosta whatever you say, buddy.

@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER

5 жыл бұрын

Let us know what shows you like rigo?.. This should be interesting..

Really nice comparison and props to the actor!

Great video, Thanks.

I absolutely love those parts where you'd edit have their voices overlap, it's amazing

The quality of the series is just..... Mindblowing!

@mclare71

3 жыл бұрын

Two words: DAVID FINCHER

@gonegirl5762

3 жыл бұрын

But he doesnt want to continue the show anymore...

@mclare71

3 жыл бұрын

@@gonegirl5762 HOPEFULLY he'll reconsider because there are years to flush out in this series.

@corkyvanderhaven3391

3 жыл бұрын

mary Three more Watch them all Everything he's ever done is tremendous

I love this show it left us on a cliff hanger and I can Hardly wait till it comes back.

His personally slowly draws you in. I wish there was more of him.

Incredible! I love the show. Can't wait for season 3!

@WonderxSkills

4 жыл бұрын

Another 2 years to go for the next season

@nross3101

4 жыл бұрын

Idem !!! Let's hope we'll see it in 2020 but I doubt....

@griffinsebastian3898

4 жыл бұрын

Wait is season 2 out ??

@shawngraham3598

4 жыл бұрын

@@griffinsebastian3898 Netflix

@griffinsebastian3898

4 жыл бұрын

@@shawngraham3598 so it's already on the table 😟😍😍 but something is confusing me ..why don't i see the hype on social media