Very nicely done, Techmoan. It's amazing to see how many people fell in love with that recorder. Working for David Fincher and having the opportunity to work with some very talented individuals was amazing. About 40% of the prop was recreated. We had acquired a couple machines. There was also one we found in a museum but did not get that one. In the end, I had 2 machines to work with. Some logos you noticed were not present anymore and that's because that was a part I machined... like the head roller cover. The original had some deep gouged marks. Since the recorder needed to look new from that time period, it was best to make a new one. I machined that part aluminum. There were other parts I needed recreate and machine. As. you know, these machines are rare and it was just easy to tear the recorder down to every nut and bolt and give it a complete restoration. The hardest part was the housing and lettering. Some of it I had to recreate while other parts was just a refinish. In the end, I decided to match the original finish using ceramic based gun coatings. It was a durable finish and the color match ended up being perfect. So, the entire housing and misc parts.. like the head/roller cover I totally refinished with this coating. The next challenge was the reels themselves. David wanted a .005" chamfer specifically on all edges of the reels. This was mainly because he was going to do plenty close ups and the details and the details had to be spot on. Again, I created a CAD model based on metal reels of that time period and machined them out of aluminum. I had to make custom fixtures to machine these parts because they are so thin. The center hubs a created a CAD model and 3D printed. I then wet polished the hubs down to 2000 grit. The hubs in the sequence were placed upside down. I did not intend or ask for my company initials to be visible.... that just happened by chance or intentional by the prop master or even possibly David was happy enough with my work that he did this for me. Either way, I was really excited to see that in the sequence. I think The Fincher Analyst is correct about the tape having a cg overlay done. There were many other details I recreated as well.... like the rubber seal between the clear cover and housing. That part I did a cad model, printed a master, pulled a mold, and cast the recreated seals in rubber. The clear cover is also custom made. I did modify the locking knob on the cover to a magnetic one so the actor would just have to pull up vs trying to fidget with trying to get it to release.... or worrying about it locking up and not release fluidly for the camera. Remember, the seen had to be very fluid. Anyway, I hope this gives you some insight as to how much effort David wanted put into that opening sequence. Another friend of mine, Maxx Burman did the corpse stills you see.

Custom reels? Techmoan, you glorious madman.

@w7777777s

6 жыл бұрын

They are nice. His reel designs are quite fanciful.

That was a lot of work, you just reached 11 on the 1 to 10 nerd scale! What a magnificent machine that Sony is, mouth watering construction.

@nathaniliescu4597

3 жыл бұрын

Mouth watering construction?? Oh lord, mate.....have a word with yourself.

@pfzt

Жыл бұрын

@@nathaniliescu4597 No, he is absolutely right, the (mostly japanese) Hi-Fi and Video tech from the mid 70s to mid 80s was indeed mouth-watering. So many knobs to touch, twist and turn, push/pull, so many lights and needles to watch. Tech was sensual back then, unlike today where everything is in a boring soulless phone.

Sorry we couldn't help you find the TDK leader tape but thanks for the plug. Regards, Kelv

@EgoChip

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the TDK leader was created specifically for the sequence, as a product placement advertising? That would explain why you couldn't find it.

@richard7crowley

6 жыл бұрын

That seems unlikely. It was easy to make that kind of leader back in the day when it was made in wide rolls and then slit into whatever width (which is why it has the repeated pattern). But TDK hasn't made reel-to-reel tape for many years and in fact sold off its magnetic media business several years ago. So it would be a rather odd "product placement" with no modern product to promote. In fact the whole reel-to-reel mag tape phenomenon had a near-death experience with the advent of digital recording and solid-state memory. Although there are a few boutique companies still making mag tape at premium prices.

@CTyler84

6 жыл бұрын

Product placement doesn't have to promote that actual product, but the brand name, you know.

@w7777777s

6 жыл бұрын

One more trivia, regarding adjusting speed in the original sequence. Of course you could pop the knob up and twiddle to your heart‘s content, but it won’t alter the recording speed. It’s locked out in record, only works in playback.

@BigKelvPark

6 жыл бұрын

Current production reel to reel tape cost roughly the same as it did in the 1980s if you take inflation into account.

When can we expect a gritty neo-noire puppet special? That editing was top notch.

@erikjohansson1814

6 жыл бұрын

Bluith Hopefully sometime after 2050.

@RMoribayashi

6 жыл бұрын

At least not until he gets around to watching the series.

You always do such a friggin good job mr Moan, I watch every second of every video. You are one of the only ones :) Thanks for all your good work

@vyladence

3 жыл бұрын

"Mister Moan"

This is the reel quality content I subscribed for.

2023.. Watching again after watching Adam Savages Tested.. Great story to add to your video

I agree. The chromed dials, buttons and switches make for lovely tactile experience with lots of the older equipment. It's somehow never really the same with touch screens. Thanks for a terrific Vid and keep up the great work.

*TECHMOAN FANS CALL TO ARMS* THIS Video is a masterpiece of Techmoaning. KZread wants creators to be "creative" and put the effort in. They want "ADVERTISER FRIENDLY" content. Techmoan is a GODSEND to them. His normal videos are excellent but he CLEARLY went above and beyond on this - but 100k Views for this is just crap. *THIS VIDEO DESERVES MORE* This is an amazing video and it took freaking months to film and the investment in old tech from JAPAN cost LOADS. so needless to say 100k is NOT cutting it. Mat is above begging for reposts and I can't see him posting it anywhere else but here and on his twitter. *So can everyone post this in at least 4 places it might be relevant to people please?* I have posted it on reddit, in the Mindhunter page, on a reel-to-reel page and on the youtube reddit. I'm also a member of an audio equipment forum for music producers, I posted it on its own thread and in some other releavant threads there. _A. can you find my reddit posts and up vote_ _B. can you find at least 4 places to post it_ If we don't support Mat when he clearly makes such an effort we're going to lose out on such good work in the future. its not right that an average video get 250K. WHY has this got just 100k - it MUST be the KZread algorithm and its just NOT right for creators. SO can WE please post/share this wherever you think it relevant and if you see it on twitter/facebook/reddit then up vote, like, retweet whatever. Can we see if US the fans can make a difference PLEASE?? 100k is a JOKE for such good work. KZread should really be ashamed of themselves right now.

@Techmoan

6 жыл бұрын

It definitely died quicker than I anticipated - but that's the way it goes sometimes. Unfortunately there's just no predicting which videos will land well.

@thysonsacclaim

4 жыл бұрын

@@Techmoan - That's terrible. I loved this video and have shared it.

I absolutely love this level of nerdery. Thank you for the most pleasant 18 minutes of my day.

Every button, switch, knob, and dial on that thing looks soooo satisfying to use. Even down to the rings holding the tapes in. I always liked how smoothly that screwed on in that opening title. And it's a really good show. I need to go back and finish watching the 2nd season, but it's a bummer that there won't be a 3rd.

*_"Flippin Heck"_*

Now that's what I would call 'transforming the dedication to ones hobby into passion' 👌 well done Sir

I just love the look of a nice reel to reel. Watching the mechanisms move about, you can almost see the music or sounds. I’m really glad my Dad had one when I was a kid. Nothing made me feel as awesome as getting to take a reel out of its case, mounting it to the machine and, threading through. So immensely satisfying.

WOW talk about dedication to making an amazing video! Just FANTASTIC

I love how passionate you are about old technology! :D

Here via Adam Savage's Tested channel, really enjoyed Mindhunter, and now apparently I like all the technical stuff on your channel. Awesome job.

@drewyoung2102

8 ай бұрын

Adam has best movie recommendations.

As always, impeccable and precise manicure. It's this attention to detail that makes your videos rise above the pack.

This is insanity. The amount of work from the TV show staff to piece together a cool looking recorder with cusrom made parts and finishes and the perseverance in recreating it as faithfully as possible is mind-boggling. And those TDK leaders were CGI... wow!!!

I have to say, I love tech moan! He's a proper content creator who's real and produces entertainment that is actually really interesting and doesn't need to click bait all his videos to gain an audience. I'm tired of somewhat fraudulent "so called" you tubers who spout out all sorts of utter bloated crap to gain a quick buck! This chap has almost 650k of subs, which is very impressive and no doubt deserves it as he's truly earned it, but I feel he deserves so much more! keep up with this great channel Matt! can't wait until you hit the million subs mark! A proper content creator, doesn't produce crap, doesn't tolerate crap and calls out the crap when needed! true northerner!

Somewhat amused, that they went all the way to remove the Sony branding, but the TDK is still there. I guess TDK isn't a big media company making movies and such. An excellent video.

@ChintanPandya01

6 жыл бұрын

Jari Heiska I guess it was removed because it was a custom machine as you saw he said, made by KCP studios.

@Kumimono

6 жыл бұрын

Chintan Pandya Dunno, what I gathered, the machine itself is pretty much original, made from few perhaps non functioning machines, and the reels and microphone-stand combo are nonstandard. Not a reason to blot out company logos.

@madkoifish532

6 жыл бұрын

Its a rights issue, tdk might have allowed it where sony likely did not.

@SpearM3064

6 жыл бұрын

Jari Heiska My theory is that Netflix approached Sony to ask for permission to use their branding, but Sony refused. You might be surprised that a company would turn down free product placement, but it happens more often than you think. For example, in one episode of *The Sopranos* a can of RAID ant killer was used in a particularly violent fight scene. A spokesperson for SC Johnson said they were not approached about the use of their product, but would *not* have given approval if they had been asked. Another example: In *Slumdog Millionaire* Mercedes-Benz did not mind having a gangster driving their cars, but they *did* object to their products being shown in a slum. So the producers had to remove the logos from the cars digitally in post-production. In addition, Sony owns Sony Pictures, so they have their own in-house vehicle for product placement. For example, the James Bond film *Skyfall* (which was a Sony Pictures film) prominently featured a Sony Xperia T smartphone, and *Spectre* featured a Sony Xperia Z5. Furthermore, Sony is already one of the most widely-recognized brands, and as such, has little need for product placement to sell its products. Assuming my theory about Sony refusing to allow product placement is correct, all of these may have been contributing factors.

@TheLastAnalogJunkie

6 жыл бұрын

From what I've learned, you're perfectly fine using any sort of branding or real world iconography that exists as part of an object or location for television or motion pictures. The main reason I have seen that TV studios and movie productions do this is because they want to create a product placement economy where companies will pay to have those logos displayed. Basically, they call up companies like Sony and say, 'We're making a TV show that has your game system in the background, if you pay me X I'll prominently show off your PlayStation and Sony logos to my audience'. If Sony says 'no thanks' they just blur it out and go on their way to the next company. TDK likely paid a few bucks to Netflix for the name recognition, or themselves already have a branding agreement with Netflix. Something that wouldn't surprise me with all the 80's iconography used in Netflix' other shows like Stranger Things.

Your vids just keep getting better & better. And Sir, on top of all you other talents here, you are quite the sleuth too! Immensely enjoyed this piece, thank you!

Wow, I love all the work you went trough to find out all of these details and actually succeded in finding them all. And your intro was just as good, in fact even beter, then the original.

I did not expect this video to be so fascinating

Congrats on getting a shout out from Adam Savage!

I only started watching Mindhunter a couple weeks ago and as I saw the titles for the first time I remembered seeing this video on your channel but never watching it. That has changed and of course, it did not disappoint.

What an absolutely beautiful machine! Your dedication to analog beauty is commendable.

It's great that Adam Savage has just did a techmoan style review of this very machine and gives you a shout-out

That mic probably still is actually a Sony mic. SuperScope was Sony's US importer in the late 60s and early 70s, and some very old Sony equipment in the US is more commonly found with SuperScope branding. Try finding the long skinny telescopic mic that Bob Barker used on The Price Is Right. It can be found in both variants.

@ka8syv203

6 жыл бұрын

FWIW, my EC-5 is branded as "SUPERSCOPE by Marantz", like the one in this video.

Fabulous! I also watched Mindhunter and couldn't name the machine. As a teeenager growing up in the north of England I became obsessed with reel to reel machines and can name most from that period at a glance. After saving my paper round money and with some help from my parents I eventually became the proud owner of a second hand Veritone 16 (3 head, 8 1/4" reels) made in England. As rare as hens teeth, they probably made a couple of hundred! I am very impressed with your channel and for me this one topped the lot. Thank you!

Videos like this is what makes your channel so great.

Here because of that man Savage. Also watched your similar recordings re the Mission Impossible gear and am equally impressed.

Mat, this is your most brilliant video yet! So glad I'm subscribed and when income allows, I will sponsor on Patreon as well. Top man! Flippin' 'eck!!

Wow, i am truly amazed over how much work you must have put in to create this video. Loved every minute of it.

Matt, your demonstrable skills here are your game changer. Absolutely amazing. Well done.

Videos like this are exactly why I subscribe to your channel. You should be very proud of this one.. well done!

Techmaon...... My you are getting artistic ! The Sony is a period classic, a work of art

@tf2engineer106

6 жыл бұрын

Techmoan*

Thank you for sharing yet another great video. Your research, narration, camera work and editing are always impeccably well done and make your content so joyous to watch. I also love the subject matter you cover, but I honestly think I would still enjoy watching your videos even if you made them about topics like stamp collecting. Please keep up the awesome work, I look forward to many more great uploads in the future!

Great job on the recreation! I just discovered your youtube channel about a month ago and have been rewatching all the old ones. Great show, great content, great host!

Jolly good show. Love the Law & Order themed puppets.

"And there was some suggestion that the tape machine might not be reel." How my brain interpreted that statement.

Wow! You really went above and beyond for this one! As a fan of the show and your channel, this was a REEL treat!

Your kind of attention to detail of small bits is admirable, instructional and very entertaining! Inspirational even. Great stuff!

Cool that Adam Savage gave you a shout out on his latest video about the Sony TC-510-2

Of course it wasn't fake, it was... REEL

@DibIrken

5 жыл бұрын

Get out

@mr.juicebox5484

Жыл бұрын

@@DibIrken 😆

Hi Techmoan! I am impressed at your brilliant work of recreating the scene so beautifully and hunting down the parts. Wow! And yes, the scene is shot so cool & stylish in the original, but hey, these guys do this for a living. PS: Your videos are both calming somehow and super interesting! Cheers from Germany!

Flippin heck. This was amazing. Your attention to detail is impressive!

This was emotional.

Next you might consider doing the jukebox from Happy Days opening sequence. Keep it up, proud of you. Nice job

I think this is one of the best video you've made yet. Thank you for that!

So. Much. Effort. Big ups! + This is the most Tech-Nerdy analysis of an intro i've seen so far.

Do a series with dark interrogation scenes with the puppets! Something mysterious, so we can see if we can find the clues to solving the "murder"

Awesome job on your recreation!! I think you’re wrong about your cinematography ability. Your shots look fantastic, right down to your wide open fast lens and nailing the focus in just the right points. Also your post processing is spot on with that brilliant color grade. Good work!

Techmoan, as always, a pleasure to watch. I just loved the machine featured on Mindhunter. You were *meant* to dig out the mystery of the unit featured on that intro. Good job, and greetings from Chile.

WOW! That was a spot on recreation of the Mindhunter intro. Good job!

Brilliant. Well dome :)

@thenewbgamer6416

3 жыл бұрын

He has dome it well.

Real content starts here 17:38 ;)

@tiberiud

6 жыл бұрын

This is the quality content I subscribed for.

@unpaintedcanvas

6 жыл бұрын

*reel

@WooferCooker

6 жыл бұрын

Fetty wapp

Brilliant video and well done on recreating the intro.

Amazing video. Superb piece of vintage equipment. Techmoan just gets better and better!

Adam Savage (Mythbusters) gave a shout out about this....

i need to press those buttons

I've never watched mindhunter, but I went and found the intro online, and WOW you did a FANTASTIC job of recreating the scene!!

Entirely worth the effort. Nice presentation!

Perfect INTRO, just when you plug in the microphone there was a little moment that give me laugh. Everything was so perfect and then just a 3,5mm to 6mm adaptor.......

@w7777777s

6 жыл бұрын

ts.electronics Realize that the original show opening could have used any 1/4” plug they chose for that shot. The Superscope mic likely has a mini plug as it was an accessory for cassette recorders. So it’s a case of reality trumping dramatic license.

@thsinger

6 жыл бұрын

Retro Tech you are right

I heard that if I'm early and mention cassete tapes, you'll heart me.

Thanks for your time to make such an interesting video!

The lengths you went to do what's presented in this video... Jaw drop. Respect and thank you. :) Have a nice day.

"Mine does have one thing that it doesn't...... An actual serial killer narrating this video!"

Mat, if you are able to source a battery pack but it does not work properly, please feel free to contact me and I can most likely replace the cells and fix any issues. 28 years in the uk portable battery industry

I admire you for the amount of research and work you put in to your videos.

So SO interesting and what a wonderful idea for a video . As people have said some much effort to make this vid and how glorious was the engineering on 70s kit. Its one thing to design these things but to then mass manufacture these items and have the quality and feel was a marvelous thing to behold

There is something about old analog machinery. I have all this RGB and what not to show off a bunch of bare PCB in my PC but it would be much cooler if I had some reels in there turning like the ones you see at NASA in Apollo 13 and the like.

@sobolanul96

6 жыл бұрын

I know a guy who had a small open reel tape drive like the HP 88781. He somehow connected it to a modern pc and recorded mp3's on the tape. His gf had a hard time understanding why the reels move back and forth while the music didn't stop and played continuously,

@lucidnonsense942

6 жыл бұрын

sobolanul96 - Just record the music from the line out? Not sure what surprises you? It's analogue out. JP Stone - there is a bunch of data backup solutions that use reel to reel - not the most efficient, or fast, method; but you could do it... You could even bit bang the data off a serial port, and boot off a tape. It'd be painfully slow, something like TinyCore Linux wouldn't take the whole day. If you have a system that can't boot off a serial port, you could boot a SoC from the RtR via its serial boot, then have it show up as a USB device to the computer. It'd be one awesome Rube Goldberg monstrosity - but, definitely feasible.

As an American, I love Boddingtons Pub Ale!

That really is a beautiful , and well built machine. What a wonderful piece of tech !

Excellent effort here. Well done video and sound.

"I had to cheat and get the reels custom-made ...but then again, so did the show"

6:58 "Using something like this feels [reel. To reel.]"

@Ravenesque

6 жыл бұрын

Came here to agree with this

Just brilliant, a superb recreation of the title. When you do get round to the - superb - series listen closely to the interview scenes in 5.1 surround as there is a different quality to the dialogue as if recorded onto the mic on the table, such attention to detail!

What a beautiful tape recorder. I love the metal parts, the tape path, the general design and ergonomics. Thanks for getting me back on track with my old interest for reel-ro-reel tape machines :)

I actually look forward to the puppets.

Flippin' Eck! You drank my Boddies!!!!

Wow so much effort this just oozes quality well done

What a beautifully engineered machine, love the custom reels as well, awesome.

"Knob Twiddling"

@andymadden8183

5 жыл бұрын

It's not meant to be suggestive. I don't see why people always seem to try to make every word suggestive in some way.

@nthgth

3 жыл бұрын

@@andymadden8183 you really think one has to _try_ with this one? "Knob twiddlers" sounds like a British insult 🤣

you're up early

@LostieTrekieTechie

6 жыл бұрын

TPD TV timezones are a hell of a drug.

@AClown

6 жыл бұрын

9am is early!

Your passion for this stuff is enviable.

Wow!! Thats dedication!! Great detective work and superb attention to detail!! Excellent video thanks TM. xxx . What a beautiful machine. It has a speed pitch control!!

How using this reel to reel recorder feels? Real (reel)! I'll see myself out...

Man they sure don't make them like they used to that thing looks like a tank!!

@johnfrancisdoe1563

6 жыл бұрын

Marshal Arnold But like any Sony, it has at least one hidden internal failure point and needs an odd custom consumable (the power pack).

Superb stuff. One of your very best videos.

Dude. Intro was beautiful. Both in content and editing. Amazing.

Why start the tape way before the mike is plugged in, but set up for 'mic'...? Isn't that a waste...? Edit: Yeah, that's what I suspected...

I’m pretty sure you sure you can play the original version. It would fall under “fair use” as you are repurposing and in some way reviewing it. (Especially if you split screen your new version with their original version so you are changing the original significantly) Have a look at “your movie sucks” website and channel. He did a video on “fair use” and explains it very well. :)

@RadioJonophone

6 жыл бұрын

The "Fair Use" concept is an American idea. Techmoan lives and operates in the UK so would be liable under the English copyright laws, in which no such "Fair Use" get out of gaol card exists. It would be a costly and time consuming exercise to establish benign intentions in court if it ever came to it, as each case would be a stand alone action. Film and TV companies can afford panels of expensive legal people to deter copyright infringement, and gain remedy. Individuals on KZread do not have such lavish resources; armchair pontifications carry little weight in the real world. Remember, Techmoan is earning an income from his productions, so would come under Commercial Use, where there are very few get out loopholes. Far better to avoid any potential traps that try the patience of judges whilst lining the pockets of lawyers.

@cnerde

6 жыл бұрын

In theory, and in legal practice, yes. But to the YT algorithm, and flagging companies, It'll just go down. Then he has to submit it to review. (possibly a number of times, with no promise YT will care enough to watch it, and will just deny it)

@biscuitsalive

6 жыл бұрын

Tim Jones KZread is an American company and so I’m pretty sure you are ok as a UK KZreadr. (I’m one and as such I sign all the American forms as if I was a American myself)

@biscuitsalive

6 жыл бұрын

Cnerde it very unlikely the video of mindhunter would be flagged by any algorithms. The audio would be the problem. As the audio waveform is easy to compare. So as long as he just showed the video without audio.

@PegasusEpsilon

6 жыл бұрын

There's also the fact that it's not all... advertiser-friendly. He could cut it up, but... So much work...

The attention to detail is just amazing.

What a brilliant episode! Such amazing attention to detail and perseverance that has paid off to produce a great video. I take my hat off to your sir. I’ve been following for quite some time. Like a lot of your fans and viewers I agree you should have your own show on a major TV channel. Please keep up the good work and I’m heading over to Patreon right now...

Would be cool to see the 13 Reasons Why setup!

@kbhasi

6 жыл бұрын

Is it me or did "vwestlife" do something similar? Oh wait, he might have not recreated the exact setup.

@Enthimisi

6 жыл бұрын

Lol it's a shitty setup

hehehe, "boddies"... :P

@Fluteboy

6 жыл бұрын

D'you wanna flake in that luv?

@johnmccallum8512

6 жыл бұрын

The Cream of Manchester

This is one of your best videos ever. I loved watching it, thank you.

Wow. Absolutely stunning! What love and detail. I‘ve been watching your channel for a long time now and just recently watched mindhunter. So cool what you created and all the amount od detail. Thank you. You are also the reason i build myself the chronixie LED clock ! So thanks for that too. Keep up the amazing work. All the best from germany. Cheers TweakerRay