Milwaukee vs. Makita- Which Drill should you get for your GRCS?
Arborists test the winching power of the GRCS with the Milwaukee Super Hawg and the Makita 36v.
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Пікірлер: 90
@zaccheus Жыл бұрын
I like the way you edited this! I love seeing how we ended up with two different videos here. Nicely done! Also really like the shot from the gopro on the enforcer. I'm going to have to do that in the future.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏 thanks dude
@iclimbtreesolutions8698 Жыл бұрын
Awesome demonstration lads!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@groundpounder243657 ай бұрын
Excellent video here..yall did a great job
@therealzigzagman
7 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@administrationarbor-x9827 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Excellent video ! Done really well and very informative. Thanks guys!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude.
@boomupengineering9 ай бұрын
Makita did good at choosing to go dual battery and thus 36V. Higher voltage means more power in a same-size package! More efficient since there is less current loss. One reason why big trucks and equipment are sometimes 24V instead of 12V.
@Bbonno
18 күн бұрын
Makita also makes an 18V version that takes a single battery and produces about half the torque... Amd then there is the one for their 40V like...
@khoatran94824 ай бұрын
Guys. The super hawg has built in safety to prevent wrist snapping if rpms drop too low. This is not it's purpose. It's meant to drill big holes.
@grahamatsea35756 ай бұрын
Well I know now which drill to buy for hauling me up the mast in a bosuns chair....that Makita was amazing
@ajmedeiros775 ай бұрын
I have that makita and it’s a beast. So much so my plumber is buying one to replace the Milwaukee crap. Even though he doesn’t have any makita tools…. Yet. The 40 volt version is even more powerful! You can get the earth auger attachment to drill holes for fencing.
@therealzigzagman
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it is powerful. To be fair, it’s running 2 batteries. It’s a 36 volt vs an 18 volt. It’s like comparing a 60cc rear handle saw to a 35cc top handle. I still use the Milwaukee super hawg, since that one was mine. I love it, and it’s nice to know exactly how much tension I’m applying when the drill maxes out.
@jasonb1750
Ай бұрын
I have the 40v makita, and it destroys the 60v dewalt too.
@benleaper6451 Жыл бұрын
Had to watch this because I just bought an 8 piece Makita tool set and the results of this video was satisfying. Nice job guys.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 nice. Good thing it wasn’t Milwaukee. 🤔😂
@9.16TreeService Жыл бұрын
Fun video! Figured Milwaukee would take to tho!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i did too
@sizemoretreeworks Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Can’t wait to see what the DeWalt 60v flex makes.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Probably something crazy, but anything beyond 2000 exceeds the wll of the GRCS. Not that I haven’t exceeded it, but winching beyond that can bust the gears I’d imagine
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman yeah I wouldn’t wanna do that. It’s handled some heavy loads I bet it’s close to the super hawg. That Makita is way stronger than I thought.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks yeah it’s insane 😂. I’ve def put more then 2000 into the GRCS. Probably a lot more. I just think as far as cranking more then 2000 with the gears, it’s probably bad. Zacheus has a video of him hand cranking, and barely got more then 2000. Makes me think that’s the limit of the gearing
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman that’s a good point. Have you seen the Gerry Baranek videos where they shock load a car from it? Wild.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks yeah dude!
@Abctreemonkeys Жыл бұрын
Lmao love this bro u just told me which one to get
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
👊👊
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
I honestly believed the Milwaukee would win easily
@Contentwiththenaturalworld Жыл бұрын
Wow great video man I’m a super hawg owner guess I gotta upgrade😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Same dude. I was shocked. One thing we found was the super hawg was faster. Just not as strong
@Contentwiththenaturalworld
Жыл бұрын
Right that is a huge difference in the game way more speed and power. Very important test. Good thinking guys.
@theatermusic87 Жыл бұрын
I bought my super hawg several years ago and was not impressed at all and went back to hand cranking for just about everything I was using the grcs for. Felt underpowered and now I know why
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
In my experience, it works well for most grcs rigging. If you’re only tip tying and standing limbs up, 1000 lbs is plenty of pull, even if it’s a 3000 lbs limb, since the butt is supported by the hinge, and the drill isn’t seeing all the weight. The rigged piece def needs to be tip tied tho. And clearly the Makita is stronger. But there is zero chance i would ONLY hand crank. The drill is just so much faster, and a huge energy saver. I can always hand crank what’s left after the dill stalls if need be
@alotl1kevegas860 Жыл бұрын
Wow was not expecting the Marita to be significantly better.
@ajmedeiros77
5 ай бұрын
Then you’ve never used any Makita tools. The best well built tools
@boomupengineering9 ай бұрын
The low-speed gear ratio is 44:1 on this Harken winch. 46 refers to some sort of sailing reference...how big of a sail it can handle. Their rigging winches have a taller drum, and they handle bigger diameter rope. With a standard 46 winch you are limited to less wraps and 9/16" rope.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
The GRCS takes up to 3/4” rope…
@boomupengineering
9 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman You are correct. Standard Harken 46 winch is 9/16" max. The rigging version (GRCS) has a wider drum and can handle 3/4" rope.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
@@boomupengineering gotcha. Good information dude! Thank you!
@boomupengineering
9 ай бұрын
@therealzigzagman I've looked into it because I'll keep an eye out for a good used winch then build my own base. I can live with 1/2" and 9/16" rope. Boats will have these smaller capacity drums. I may even find a size 50 winch but I think it is still limited to 9/16 - not sure.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
@@boomupengineering i suppose with sailing it’s more static ropes, and not much more diameter is needed
@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35 Жыл бұрын
2 batteries vs 1 battery on the tool, makes sence!makita just half torque id say per battery, so like 900 ft lbs
@mikethomas9544 Жыл бұрын
36 volts at 10 amps is always going to kill 18 volts at 12 amps.
@user-vf7gj3my9z
6 ай бұрын
36в и 5ам,а не 10ам,иут складывается напряжение,а сила тока остается 5ам,будьте внимателтеы при правильных расчетах!!!
@youpaing8102
5 ай бұрын
Just 36V 5ah power only
@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35 Жыл бұрын
Needed the 6.0 high output battery
@Sethhaun7810 ай бұрын
Hey man does your Milwaukee go in reverse?
@therealzigzagman
10 ай бұрын
Yes, we’re only operating then in reverse. Counter clockwise for the gearing in the grcs
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman stay safe
@Stickmantree4 ай бұрын
Where y’all both going the same way? Just checking
@therealzigzagman
4 ай бұрын
Is this a real question dude?
@Stickmantree
3 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman definitely. our grcs can be turned clockwise and counter with one direction giving more torque than the other
@philwalden61668 ай бұрын
What is GRCS
@Sethhaun78 Жыл бұрын
The 46 is the new models after 2010 its a radial design winch..and aluminum. Instead of bronze mixed. With metal bearings ..so you know..
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Good info.
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman the older model wasn't strong er r but wore out less in time .was to expensive for them to keep mskeing them thar way for production.
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for drill video. Am about to purchase a drill .and will get makita..it seems..and truck mount for my grcs..should do a video of a drill with power cord .be curious to see ya.ll do video of that ..probly be superior from a corded drill.just saying
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
Hint
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@Sethhaun78 I’m sure it would win. The GRCS can only take so much pain tho. 2000 lbs is the working load limit, and that’s the most we are able to do by hand. The gears seem to just freeze at 2000. A more powerful drill would probably just blow it up
@Abctreemonkeys Жыл бұрын
How many cells
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what cells are
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
😂
@21ZacDUDE6 ай бұрын
Is the GRCS rated for all that??
@therealzigzagman
6 ай бұрын
Yes. It has a working load limit of 2000 lbs. Greg Good, the creator, endorses the use of either drill with the device.
@homerogonzalez2909 Жыл бұрын
what if you hooked up a impact?
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Good question honestly. The problem with the impact on a grcs is that the internals on the winch are just plastic gears. The force of the impact would destroy them pretty quickly
@homerogonzalez2909
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman interesting… you should still try it. You know for science 😂😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@homerogonzalez2909 😂😂
@philwalden61668 ай бұрын
What is GRCS?
@therealzigzagman
8 ай бұрын
Good rigging control system
@Sethhaun78 Жыл бұрын
46 doesn't have metal bearings or bronze in drum
@mfahim1995 Жыл бұрын
Duddeeeee. I own all Milwaukee and now you’re telling me I have to get an ugly makita just for the GRCS. Boooooo. 😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 you don’t HAVE to.. But you might want to
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
Don't understand the obsession with Milwaukee. ?it's just another consumer ploy .like all tools.malkita makes quality tools.S as do others.sadly most of all tools today aren't what they used to be or metal.also no ones giving credit where it's do.....to Greg for makeing the grcs ..wich is the acuttual tool that works wonders 👉
@WoodCutr1 Жыл бұрын
"I guess the high output ones are supposed to produce more oompa loompas" ahh yes, americans WILL infact use anything except the metric system!
@kizzjd9578 Жыл бұрын
Why do you say “five point o” and “eight point o”? You can literally just say 5amp hours or 5 amp instead.. bit odd tbh. Bloody yanks lol
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
It literally says “5.0” or “8.0” on the battery. Doesn’t say 5amp hours. Its a bit odd that out of that whole video, THAT’S the comment you decided to make… tbh
@kizzjd9578
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman it does mate, “ah”means amp hours. Fair enough if it were 5.2 or 8.2 ah but they aren’t. Bit odd but each to their own lol. Thats like counting to 10 but when you say “ten” you say “ten point oh”.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@kizzjd9578 glad that’s what you got from this KZread post
@kizzjd9578
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman thanks mate
@timriverstone4767 Жыл бұрын
Man, so much time spent on useless talking
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
Useless comments too🤪
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks 😂😂
@nodoubt46able Жыл бұрын
get the makita 40 volt, its about 30% stronger yet......
@jakeharris44654 ай бұрын
Speed 1
@jakeharris44654 ай бұрын
Get the dewalt 60volt flex volt with 9amp battery it’s got more power than the makita
Пікірлер: 90
I like the way you edited this! I love seeing how we ended up with two different videos here. Nicely done! Also really like the shot from the gopro on the enforcer. I'm going to have to do that in the future.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏 thanks dude
Awesome demonstration lads!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
Excellent video here..yall did a great job
@therealzigzagman
7 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
Excellent Excellent video ! Done really well and very informative. Thanks guys!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude.
Makita did good at choosing to go dual battery and thus 36V. Higher voltage means more power in a same-size package! More efficient since there is less current loss. One reason why big trucks and equipment are sometimes 24V instead of 12V.
@Bbonno
18 күн бұрын
Makita also makes an 18V version that takes a single battery and produces about half the torque... Amd then there is the one for their 40V like...
Guys. The super hawg has built in safety to prevent wrist snapping if rpms drop too low. This is not it's purpose. It's meant to drill big holes.
Well I know now which drill to buy for hauling me up the mast in a bosuns chair....that Makita was amazing
I have that makita and it’s a beast. So much so my plumber is buying one to replace the Milwaukee crap. Even though he doesn’t have any makita tools…. Yet. The 40 volt version is even more powerful! You can get the earth auger attachment to drill holes for fencing.
@therealzigzagman
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it is powerful. To be fair, it’s running 2 batteries. It’s a 36 volt vs an 18 volt. It’s like comparing a 60cc rear handle saw to a 35cc top handle. I still use the Milwaukee super hawg, since that one was mine. I love it, and it’s nice to know exactly how much tension I’m applying when the drill maxes out.
@jasonb1750
Ай бұрын
I have the 40v makita, and it destroys the 60v dewalt too.
Had to watch this because I just bought an 8 piece Makita tool set and the results of this video was satisfying. Nice job guys.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 nice. Good thing it wasn’t Milwaukee. 🤔😂
Fun video! Figured Milwaukee would take to tho!
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i did too
Awesome video. Can’t wait to see what the DeWalt 60v flex makes.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Probably something crazy, but anything beyond 2000 exceeds the wll of the GRCS. Not that I haven’t exceeded it, but winching beyond that can bust the gears I’d imagine
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman yeah I wouldn’t wanna do that. It’s handled some heavy loads I bet it’s close to the super hawg. That Makita is way stronger than I thought.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks yeah it’s insane 😂. I’ve def put more then 2000 into the GRCS. Probably a lot more. I just think as far as cranking more then 2000 with the gears, it’s probably bad. Zacheus has a video of him hand cranking, and barely got more then 2000. Makes me think that’s the limit of the gearing
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman that’s a good point. Have you seen the Gerry Baranek videos where they shock load a car from it? Wild.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks yeah dude!
Lmao love this bro u just told me which one to get
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
👊👊
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
I honestly believed the Milwaukee would win easily
Wow great video man I’m a super hawg owner guess I gotta upgrade😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Same dude. I was shocked. One thing we found was the super hawg was faster. Just not as strong
@Contentwiththenaturalworld
Жыл бұрын
Right that is a huge difference in the game way more speed and power. Very important test. Good thinking guys.
I bought my super hawg several years ago and was not impressed at all and went back to hand cranking for just about everything I was using the grcs for. Felt underpowered and now I know why
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
In my experience, it works well for most grcs rigging. If you’re only tip tying and standing limbs up, 1000 lbs is plenty of pull, even if it’s a 3000 lbs limb, since the butt is supported by the hinge, and the drill isn’t seeing all the weight. The rigged piece def needs to be tip tied tho. And clearly the Makita is stronger. But there is zero chance i would ONLY hand crank. The drill is just so much faster, and a huge energy saver. I can always hand crank what’s left after the dill stalls if need be
Wow was not expecting the Marita to be significantly better.
@ajmedeiros77
5 ай бұрын
Then you’ve never used any Makita tools. The best well built tools
The low-speed gear ratio is 44:1 on this Harken winch. 46 refers to some sort of sailing reference...how big of a sail it can handle. Their rigging winches have a taller drum, and they handle bigger diameter rope. With a standard 46 winch you are limited to less wraps and 9/16" rope.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
The GRCS takes up to 3/4” rope…
@boomupengineering
9 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman You are correct. Standard Harken 46 winch is 9/16" max. The rigging version (GRCS) has a wider drum and can handle 3/4" rope.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
@@boomupengineering gotcha. Good information dude! Thank you!
@boomupengineering
9 ай бұрын
@therealzigzagman I've looked into it because I'll keep an eye out for a good used winch then build my own base. I can live with 1/2" and 9/16" rope. Boats will have these smaller capacity drums. I may even find a size 50 winch but I think it is still limited to 9/16 - not sure.
@therealzigzagman
9 ай бұрын
@@boomupengineering i suppose with sailing it’s more static ropes, and not much more diameter is needed
2 batteries vs 1 battery on the tool, makes sence!makita just half torque id say per battery, so like 900 ft lbs
36 volts at 10 amps is always going to kill 18 volts at 12 amps.
@user-vf7gj3my9z
6 ай бұрын
36в и 5ам,а не 10ам,иут складывается напряжение,а сила тока остается 5ам,будьте внимателтеы при правильных расчетах!!!
@youpaing8102
5 ай бұрын
Just 36V 5ah power only
Needed the 6.0 high output battery
Hey man does your Milwaukee go in reverse?
@therealzigzagman
10 ай бұрын
Yes, we’re only operating then in reverse. Counter clockwise for the gearing in the grcs
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman stay safe
Where y’all both going the same way? Just checking
@therealzigzagman
4 ай бұрын
Is this a real question dude?
@Stickmantree
3 ай бұрын
@@therealzigzagman definitely. our grcs can be turned clockwise and counter with one direction giving more torque than the other
What is GRCS
The 46 is the new models after 2010 its a radial design winch..and aluminum. Instead of bronze mixed. With metal bearings ..so you know..
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Good info.
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman the older model wasn't strong er r but wore out less in time .was to expensive for them to keep mskeing them thar way for production.
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for drill video. Am about to purchase a drill .and will get makita..it seems..and truck mount for my grcs..should do a video of a drill with power cord .be curious to see ya.ll do video of that ..probly be superior from a corded drill.just saying
@Sethhaun78
Жыл бұрын
Hint
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@Sethhaun78 I’m sure it would win. The GRCS can only take so much pain tho. 2000 lbs is the working load limit, and that’s the most we are able to do by hand. The gears seem to just freeze at 2000. A more powerful drill would probably just blow it up
How many cells
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what cells are
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
😂
Is the GRCS rated for all that??
@therealzigzagman
6 ай бұрын
Yes. It has a working load limit of 2000 lbs. Greg Good, the creator, endorses the use of either drill with the device.
what if you hooked up a impact?
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
Good question honestly. The problem with the impact on a grcs is that the internals on the winch are just plastic gears. The force of the impact would destroy them pretty quickly
@homerogonzalez2909
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman interesting… you should still try it. You know for science 😂😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@homerogonzalez2909 😂😂
What is GRCS?
@therealzigzagman
8 ай бұрын
Good rigging control system
46 doesn't have metal bearings or bronze in drum
Duddeeeee. I own all Milwaukee and now you’re telling me I have to get an ugly makita just for the GRCS. Boooooo. 😂
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 you don’t HAVE to.. But you might want to
@Sethhaun78
10 ай бұрын
Don't understand the obsession with Milwaukee. ?it's just another consumer ploy .like all tools.malkita makes quality tools.S as do others.sadly most of all tools today aren't what they used to be or metal.also no ones giving credit where it's do.....to Greg for makeing the grcs ..wich is the acuttual tool that works wonders 👉
"I guess the high output ones are supposed to produce more oompa loompas" ahh yes, americans WILL infact use anything except the metric system!
Why do you say “five point o” and “eight point o”? You can literally just say 5amp hours or 5 amp instead.. bit odd tbh. Bloody yanks lol
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
It literally says “5.0” or “8.0” on the battery. Doesn’t say 5amp hours. Its a bit odd that out of that whole video, THAT’S the comment you decided to make… tbh
@kizzjd9578
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman it does mate, “ah”means amp hours. Fair enough if it were 5.2 or 8.2 ah but they aren’t. Bit odd but each to their own lol. Thats like counting to 10 but when you say “ten” you say “ten point oh”.
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@kizzjd9578 glad that’s what you got from this KZread post
@kizzjd9578
Жыл бұрын
@@therealzigzagman thanks mate
Man, so much time spent on useless talking
@sizemoretreeworks
Жыл бұрын
Useless comments too🤪
@therealzigzagman
Жыл бұрын
@@sizemoretreeworks 😂😂
get the makita 40 volt, its about 30% stronger yet......
Speed 1
Get the dewalt 60volt flex volt with 9amp battery it’s got more power than the makita