Another interesting part of that series between the Cubs and Padres was the day before the no-hitter there was a brawl between the two teams. Rick Monday was at the plate and almost got hit by a pitch and started jawing at the pitcher. The Padres catcher, Chris Canazarro started talking back to Monday and they started duking it out. Neither of them played during the no-hit game because they were both suspended.

That was the second no-hitter by a Cub pitcher at Wrigley Field in 1972, the first being by Burt Hooton in April of that year.

Billy Williams' memory is a little fuzzy. That wasn't a shoestring catch and he didn't tumble after catching it.

@kennethshouler3055

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I caught that. He made the catch shoulder high.

@bradcrawford1998

3 жыл бұрын

I love it, I thought the same thing about Billy's comment 🤔🤨. WTF. Still loved watching those Cubs from 69 and 70's. Ernie and Billy, Don, Ron Randy, Glenn Beckert. Back when the game was pure.

@kennethshouler3055

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradcrawford1998 They were a perennial contender with Hall of Famers such as Banks, Santo, Williams, and Jenkins. So yes, it's a surprise, to me, that they didn't grab a pennant or three. They also had Beckett and Kessinger for the DP duo, and Hundley behind the dish. They should never have traded a young Brock, however.

@jeremycrandall2899

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was gonna say! Lol. It seems like, instead of going back to Billy Williams, showing him the video of the play, and having him re-do his commentary, they just said “Fuck it. Who cares? Nobody’ll notice that.”😄😄😄

Most interesting to me is Billy Williams remembering a shoestring catch and tumble that never happened. No doubt in my mind that Williams was truthfully recounting what he remembered, not embellishing or trying to make himself heroic. When S.E Smith was interviewing veterans for his book The United States Navy in WWII, he found that memories frequently did not jibe with contemporary accounts. Again, these vets weren't lying or embellishing, over time the memories warp in some ways.

Alison Payne was such a hottie on WGN News!

@marcusjohnson7772

Ай бұрын

I like her nose

I remember that female anchorwoman. She's gorgeous.

Milt Pappas was robbed BIG TIME!!...clearly you can see pinch hitter Larry Stahl's bat cross the plain on the 3-2 pitch; ala Dale Mitchell in a similar situation during Don Larsen's Perfecto in 1956...what a shame RIP Milt Pappas

my childhood Greek American idol

@eliasbairamis6069

2 жыл бұрын

Only Greeks will understand that hahaha

@robjaimes8830

Жыл бұрын

Miltiades Stergios Papastergios!

Billy Williams with another clutch catch to save another no-hitter.

@dwightschoener5931

2 жыл бұрын

Aarons ball in the left field ivy, where the wall bends back.

In all fairness the ball was outside and off the plate and the batter absolutely did not commit so a walk was the right call. He wasn't robbed...he robbed himself. Btw, I'm a lifelong Cubs fan.

@DNSKansas

3 жыл бұрын

You're 100 percent wrong. Stahl did not check his swing.

@dwightschoener5931

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree, just look where Hundley caught the ball. He never moved his glove and it was on the corner.

@scottt.4960

2 жыл бұрын

@@DNSKansas Just looked at the video, hell yeah!! His bat swing (check) stops pointing down the third base line. Poor call on Randy's part of this critical play,. Hundley should have got confirmation from the third base umpire on the swing, despite knowing that Pappas just painted the outside edge of the plate and didn't get that call...

@jonathanjordan315

Жыл бұрын

I can’t see the plate in this video, but it looks kind of outside. It also looks like the batter didn’t check his swing.

Apparently Bruce Froemming wanted a couple of autographs the next day, and Pappas said sure, and you know where to stick them after I give you them.

Frank Robinson for Pappas the greatest steal of all time

Why don't they ever show pitch from behind the Pitcher? That's the second vid I watched and both missed it.

@cub2001

26 күн бұрын

Didn't have the camera there back then.

I love those yellow Padres uniforms. I remember Padres manager Don Zimmer said the yellow uniforms made him look like a fat canary. LOL!

@tigus1964

7 ай бұрын

lo li guess a big canary

@robertwayne808

7 ай бұрын

I like a lot of the team uniforms from that era. Last year the Texas Rangers would wear throwback uniforms from their first year coming here from Washington D.C. which was in 1972. They really were sharp looking. And ironically, even though they weren't the Washington Senators anymore, their uniforms were red, white and blue.@@tigus1964

@brando7266

4 ай бұрын

They should bring them back,

If Milt Pappas had wan 20 games at least in one season(his personal best was 17 in 1970 and 1971, both with the Cubs), he might have had a better chance to be in Hall of Fame.

I remember reading in Leo Durocher's book "Nice Guys Finish Last" that he had had problems with Froemming on the field and Pappas (and Joe Pepitone) in the clubhouse. Makes me wonder who Leo sided with in this instance.

Bruce Froemming was an outstanding umpire but after watching that interview, he knew! He's got a little almost condescending tone to his comments!

@tigus1964

7 ай бұрын

i remenber he hates the MontrealEexpos . when he caled l a game in Montreal. the calls were often agaiinst us we have to beat the referre and the other team too

Milt was robbed no doubt and if the center field camera was on at that moment the world would have seen it was a strike. But Bruce being the butt fuck that he is would not give it to him. Oh well he still made Cub history

@TimRobinson-hc7mt

Ай бұрын

What was really sad was the story about his 1st wife who went missing for years

Coming from a Cubs fan: It blows me away that people are still crying about this today. The ball was iffy. The camera in question is not directly behind home plate. It's offset. And from that angle it does look like it goes over the plate. But looking at an offset angle with no other view doesn't give us a definitive answer. But regardless, the more important part is the check swing, which did look like it broke the plain. BUT in that scenario, I would hope that the majority of baseball fans already know that it's extremely hard for the home plate umpire to recognize how far out a check swing goes when he has to watch where the pitch lands. That's why the catcher usually appeals to the base ump. Umpires have said time and time again that whether they're behind the plate or at the base line, check swings are very difficult to determine. Yes, I do believe he blew the call, but I certainly don't believe that he did it on purpose. I believe he saw the pitch outside, but did not see how far out the check swing went. Froemming and Pappas didn't have a bad history together. What reason would he have to spite his perfect game? It's stupid to think he did it just to be a jackass. It's more jackass to think like that just because you're still salty about a game that happened almost 50 years ago.

@geedavia1785

Жыл бұрын

Dude, they didn't have First base ump appeals back then. They barely had decent camera coverage of games.

Don Drysdale won 209 as well and he is in the Hall of Fame

@bd001217

Жыл бұрын

Drysdale had a lot more black ink (i.e. league leading performances), a lot more grey ink (near-league-leading performances), he was a 3x world series champ and he won a Cy Young award. Pappas once won a bowling trophy. Pappas pitched forever... Drysdale knew when to quit. when he retired he was one year away from having set an NL record scoreless inning streak.

2:36 Froemming looks like he's laughing knowing he screwed up pappas perfect game.

My favorite was Kenny Holzman’s

How about those Padres all yellow with brown unis?

Why didn't Arnie Harris use the center field camera on the walk? That would have been conclusive evidence. We will never really know.

@billny33

3 жыл бұрын

Arnie Harris? Is that the name of the station director? Surprised anyone would know whose decision that was.

@garyrasberryjr.552

2 жыл бұрын

@@billny33 I remember Arnie's name because Harry would bring him up during games.

None of those pitches were strikes. And Don Larsen's last strike wasn't a strike.

@DNSKansas

3 жыл бұрын

Quit trying to defend this asshole umpire

"made a shoestring catch"..... catches ball mid chest.

I watched this game on TV, it was a strike but Froemming decided (even before the pitch) anything close was going against Pappas. I believe that's the reason he missed jotbonly the pitch, but the fact the batter, (as someone mentioned) actually did swing at the pitch. Hell Froemming blew it he missed the call. Pappas earned the perfect game, Froemming saying he didn't is a bunch of crap. He earned it and Froemming stold it. And in doing so, he did the unforgivable. He made it about himself, and not about the game, and he purposely did so. He had to insert himself into history. That wasn't his job, so yeah he's an ass, and an arrogant idiot. I don't blame Pappas, he was perfect that day but Froemming stold his perfection. GO CUBS.

Williams appeared in better position over North to make the play, anyway!

Love Billy Williams but a shoe string catch isn’t when the ball is face level...

How was it almost a perfect game, Cubs made an error?

@leonardshevlin7260

3 жыл бұрын

The 27th batter reached 1st on a walk.

@dwightschoener5931

2 жыл бұрын

Padres made the only error, and as Leonard stated the only battery who reached first base for the Padres was the 27th batter. That's why it was almost a perfect game.

I don't see no stinkin shoestring or tumble. WTF ?

2:25 blown call.... Booooo.

pappas got robbed

@joeambrose3260

4 жыл бұрын

Baklava ! It was ball 4. He held ,and you know it

Those Padre uniforms yuk.