He has a point. Who are we to pass judgement on his crime when we are basically doing the same thing that got him in here? We are judging someone from a distance, safe behind our screens, able to criticize without fear of repercussion. I feel like a hypocrite for even participating, this clip really made me think about whether or not we'd be this black and white if a real life was in the balance.

@FakeVenatus

Жыл бұрын

The difference is that it’s our job as the warden to judge their crime. It wasn’t his job- he took it upon himself while this is our job. That’s like comparing a demolitionist blowing up a building and if I randomly decided to blow up a building. I would be committing a crime- they wouldn’t

@RyomouShimei

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus Well, here's the thing, no one told us to step on this role. I mean if we didn't, Milgram wouldn't exist BUT we chose to participate ourselves. Es might say it's their role which okay, but we, the audience, are doing the exact same thing as Fuuta. The original Milgram experiment went through because someone in a uniform told participants it was ok to do it, in this case, does the uniform give us a free pass then?

@mimisha3704

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus Going off what the other said I think Jackolope said we didn’t even have to vote if I remember correctly. This might just be a false memory but I swear I heard him say that one time. For a example, I personally only started voting the day before Haruka got Unforgiven, just because I decided to vote Futa Forgiven. I could’ve voted for Haruka but I decided not to. Everyone else could’ve done the same exact thing for any of the characters or even all of them. We aren’t being forced at gunpoint to do so. We’re doing this at our own free will so yes, it’s the same exact thing.

@candescence

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus the warden not for any real legally sanctioned prison so you might as well just admit this is vigilantism

@eluen4553

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus ​ I mean, saying it's alright because it's our job is esentially the same as "but other people told me it was okay!", isn't it? I'm sure Fuuta had plenty of followers encouraging him too. And sure, maybe internet randos aren't a valid source of authority, but is Milgram? It's a super sketchy prison whose explicit ethos is "just judge based on whatever, lol", staffed by an amnesiac minor with anger issues and a cryptid who thinks everyone should be voted guilty except for the hot ones. If the point is whether something is illegal, Milgram itself is super illegal, since it's at the very least kidnapping. Plus when you hire a demolitionist you're presumably hiring them for yourself or somebody who agreed to have their property destroyed. This is more like sending them to attack a random building because you think the owner deserves it.

Voice actor had RENT to pay

Es changing character after the clock sound is something, they went from being understanding and caring to saying they don't care and giving no shit to what they just said previously.

@m.w8007

6 ай бұрын

It’s all so weird and sinister and I love it. I love how they represent characters in that realistic way just like real people they can change their thoughts and their self in a blink of eye. Whether fair or not people are like this

@Sojaeis

4 ай бұрын

Yea it was soooo unexpected I'd already forgive him.

headcanoning that fuuta had a commentary channel and talked about bad people over his gameplay footage

@melia4294

Ай бұрын

think he plays splatoon?

@starpeep5769

Ай бұрын

CANON

so it's confirmed kind of, the girl killed herself. Hes honestly right though, whyd we forgive kotoko who actually killed people but not him who just went off on someone online who ended up killing themself? He saw what he did as right, kotoko thought what she did was right, We are doing what we think is right, so why do have the right to judge him when we are doing the exact same thing? judging someone from a distance, and doing what we see as right.

@FakeVenatus

Жыл бұрын

We have the right to judge him because it’s literally our job as warden. I’m glad his has majority innocent this vote too because I think he really has learned and won’t do it again

@_Belphegore_

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus i'm just stating his mindest.

@sourapplecake

Жыл бұрын

i think a lot of people voted kotoko as inno and futa as guilty because while it was clear that kotoko was aware of and accepted the fact that she’s committing crime, futa was in denial about having harmed someone. self awareness is a really important thing in these kinds of situations, and futa demonstrated a complete lack of self awareness

@_Belphegore_

Жыл бұрын

@@sourapplecake i can understand that, but im sure he doesn't, they're basically all the same yet he was the one voted guilty and he almost died. They both thought they were right though, no?? Kotoko just went to way more extreme measures while all (it seems) Fuuta did was do what he usually does, online callouts/a lil bit of cyber bullying . The one who's more guilty is kotoko in my opinion, actively killing people even if they are bad people, thats like the light yagami ideology. Im voting Fuuta innocent, i have sense the beginning, im not sure bout you tho.

@_Belphegore_

Жыл бұрын

@@sourapplecake also one more thing, Isnt knowing what you're doing is wrong but continue doing it worse than not thinking what you did is wrong and continuing (which i dont think futa did)

Guys. the only characters who are currently hearing voices are the ones who are confirmed smartphone users. *Fuuta, Yuno, and Mahiru might be hearing what we write on social media.*

@onlyogswillknowwhothisis

7 ай бұрын

No, it’s the ones judged as guilty.

@cerebralcircus2004

7 ай бұрын

@@onlyogswillknowwhothisis Yuno was judged innocent, though. And Haruka seemed to be able to understand the sentiment of the comments, even if he didn't fully acknowledge hearing them as voices. I think they're all able to hear them in some capacity.

@onlyogswillknowwhothisis

7 ай бұрын

@@cerebralcircus2004 oh nvm them

@onlyogswillknowwhothisis

7 ай бұрын

*then

Could you imagine if at the end of Milgram, the last choice of the audience is whether Es is innocent or guilty?

I was rewatching this and thinking about Es’ behaviour at the end. We usually see them as an overly violent, hypocritical jerk, but at the end we see them acting a lot more compassionate to Fuuta, comforting him while he’s breaking down and even questioning their own actions and their distance from the prisoners. Then the bell rolls and we see Es revert back to their more apathetic sate and contradict all they’ve said. Acting in a mean, harsher tone and causing Fuuta to have a breakdown despite just comforting him before. I’ve also noticed this alot in other VDs, how when the bell rolls Es completely changes personality. I genuinely feel that Es isn’t that mean person we often see at heart. And their moments of sympathy are their true, past self showing. But having their memories wiped and forced into the role of a prison guard is highlighting their violent and uncaring tendencies more. And I feel like Baptism Of Fire really shows that happening the most.

@m.w8007

6 ай бұрын

Es has been reflective all the time, it’s not like this is his first time agreeing with a prisioner

I’m voting him innocent no matter what Okay so I decided to just put all my overall thoughts on Futa here So the basics of Futa’s crime is that he participated in cancel culture and ended up going too far one day and drove someone to suicide. Right off the bat I think that’s pretty messed up, but not “Go to jail” levels of messed up, it’s clear that Futa didn’t have any bad intentions, he was just too caught up in his ego to understand things would take that turn. Futa is pretty young, literally 20, he’s still in college, he’s still learning. It’s also important to mention that Futa clearly doesn’t have many friends as seen in one moment in Bring It On when he’s just staring at a group of friends like he’s jealous of them. Engaging in cancel culture gives him a sense of companionship, this just furthers the point of him not wanting anything bad to happen, as Es said, he was just using it as a means of entertainment, to feed that ego of his. It’s also very clear that he feels remorse for his actions considering in both of his MV’s he looks genuinely horrified after the girl dies. So I imagine that him constantly insisting that it wasn’t his fault and that he didn’t know, and that he didn’t kill anyone is his way of coping with his guilt. And then there’s the situation he’s in right now, where he’s been dragged into some place he’s unfamiliar with and gets his ass kicked by a Light Yagami knockoff because some randos decided that they don’t forgive him for what he did, he’s clearly very anxious and panicked because of the trauma he’s faced in Milgram TL;DR I deem Futa innocent because I genuinely don’t see him as a criminal, I just see him as a reckless kid who’s irresponsible actions got blown out of proportion

@aesjirachii

Жыл бұрын

i completely agree with this. He literally has a point in that he never wanted that to happen. We don't know why exactly the girl committed suicide and/ or if it was even because of what he specifically said. We go off all the time on socials having opinions of whats right or wrong but never with any intention of killing someone and i'm pretty sure that was Fuuta's case.

@sadie9205

Жыл бұрын

Me too, I think what he did was completely wrong but he is not a murderer because he did not have the intention to kill and by definition murder is premeditated. I think he deserves consequences but I’m sure that prison isn’t right for him, especially because he doesn’t pose any physical threat to anybody.

@maniacmarshall7771

Жыл бұрын

Still though, he should understand that what he did was wrong but he didn't, he wasn't sorry that the girl died but is only worried about the repercussions on what will happen to him and not him feeling sorry about what he did. In Es-Undercover, his silhouette shows him taking a picture of the girl's home address, which is DOXXING. Despite about what he did, should we still forgive him? maybe, since it looked like that he was never punished at all before this, which boosted his ego and comradery.

@danabarri8686

Жыл бұрын

@@maniacmarshall7771 And who does he have to say sorry? to ES, to the audience? the girl is dead, saying sorry is a step he has to take but saying "sorry" doesn't fix anything and even less towards a group of strangers, what matters is that he feels remorse and doesn't do it again

@Momoyue

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I feel like this is the best punishment for Futa. He is experiencing the exact same thing he put his victims through though the violence is real. I don't believe he is fully guilty, but I am less inclined to believe he is innocent. He loved role playing online as a warrior for justice by exposing people's "crimes" and having them be cancelled. Futa was the one who started every online battle. That is true of how Twitter works. People like Futa present the evidence of their victim's crimes, dox them, and then let internet do the rest. This is the equivalent of someone buying a gun and loading it with bullets only to leave it on the table for someone else to pull the trigger. It's how a lot of online bullies get away with their crimes because they weren't the one who actually killed the victim, but they did set everything up for someone else to do it. Futa makes it clear that he regrets it, but not fully because he doesn't believe he is solely responsible even though he's the one who started it. I can't honestly believe that someone who tries to cancel another person does not expect something major to happen to them? The whole point of cancelling someone is to make their lives miserable. To make them lose their jobs, their reputation, their support system, and if they end their lives, that's what some people want. Futa felt no remorse for the other people's lives he ruined because to him it was justified (which some might have been). Futa only feels bad because the girl died. I question whether he really feels bad about the girl or about how his life might get cancelled for his actions?

Futa’s MV and voice drama pretty much solidify the impression I got from Yuno’s, which is that we’re meant to stop voting. Es feels like they can’t stop judging and must finish their role, but is that really the truth? Even if Futa is voted innocent, we’re still subjecting him to the eyes of judgement he talks about. Similar to the real Milgram experiment, I think the best course of action is to recognize that harm is being done and stop.

@lunar8915

Жыл бұрын

I thinks so too but everyone will probably still vote them

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

Жыл бұрын

@@lunar8915 You’re probably right. It would be pretty cool though if a movement started and eventually the community didn’t vote at all in the third trial. I imagine Jackalope would be pretty dumbfounded.

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

Жыл бұрын

@@lunar8915 Another idea I’ve heard someone mention is meta voting so the percentage ratio is 50:50 guilty and innocent. That might be more feasible, but probably just as challenging.

@lunar8915

Жыл бұрын

@@genericyoutubecommentchann7418 yeah it was working with haruka but at the end the guilty percent took over and yeah we can't save him anymore now

@monolinny1817

Жыл бұрын

You literally describe what I thought. The idea of 50/50 is really challenging, but it sure worth a try. (Also reminder, this is just the 2nd trial)

Not much of a theorizer myself, but I think it’s worth pointing out the big connection between Fuuta now/here and Bring It On. For example, in Bring It On, he sings “I won’t stop until you say you’re sorry”, but even after he apologizes here, Es ‘doesn’t stop’. “All evil hypocrites should disappear”: he now sees Es as the hypocrite who refuses to accept his apology even though they’ve committed the same sort of sin. There is also a clear similarity in design between the boss Fuuta defeats and the graffiti representing the girl he killed. The other thing I can think of is that in the last chorus, Fuuta switches from calling himself a hero to an “undead hero”, which might mean nothing, but could also be worth seeing in a new light following Yuno’s “Am I really alive?” Thank you for watching!

@TENMATSUKASA88

Жыл бұрын

i had this idea that milgram was like a place you go to when you die, before you go to heaven or hell. if you are seen as innocent, you go to heaven. guilty, you go to hell. i first got the idea when in harukas (i think) voice drama, he says something along the lines of "if im dead, this must be hell". further emphasized by amane saying "this is a trial from god" during the 30 interrogation questions thing. and now theres this i saw a concept like the above theory and milgram reminded me of it, lol sorry if its poorly explained i suck at english

@nara9404

10 ай бұрын

​@@TENMATSUKASA88it's the first time I saw this theory but if it's true I'll be heartbroken

If es was on my side but then suddenly switched right at the end I’d be pissed off aswell lmao. Fuuta saying he’d kill him is obviously not true cuz dude hates people who resort to violence.. I think he just felt very hurt from es’ sudden switch lmao and just reacted quite angrily which is fair enough. Anyway this dude is forgiven please Please I defend fuuta kajiyama with my life

I really think that if anything, fuuta is trying to make sure es/we don't meet the same 'fate' as him. He mentioned how hard he finds it now to go on with the voices and judging, and in his mv we see him start to turn into ash like the girl. I believe he's most likely struggling with suicidal thoughts right now and us holding himself back. Maybe because he really doesn't want es to have his predicament, maybe because it's not bad enough yet. Either way I'm voting to forgive him, he's clearly learned his 'lesson'.

I can’t prove it but I have a feeling that Futa and Yuno are going to work together soon or at the very least be the ones to piece together what milgram is. Futa has a front row seat to condemning people so he understand the mindset of Justice (i use that word loosely) and the amusement in seeing scums downfall. Yuno is very calculating and she’s seen how the prisoners are changing, kotoko has pretty much come to the same conclusion as Yuno but her need for punishment is clouding her judgment. She pretty much just needs a reason to strike someone down, any reason at all to sate her bloodlust. So far these are the only three to question what Milgram is beyond the surface level of “why am I here?” There are still more trials to go so I’m very excited to see where this is going (Also I’d like to note that Es says they’re putting their life on the line to judge everyone when they have a barrier protecting them. They also say “if you and I really are the same kind of person like you claim, I’ll end up like that sooner or later anyways.” Very VERY note worthy to me considering there’s an empty cell. My theory is Es is going to receive judgement from the prisoners for being the one to judge their sins)

@noahi.1381

Жыл бұрын

Given that Kotoko is almost guaranteed a GUILTY vote for now, Yuno ALONE might reach a proper conclusion first. She’s the one prisoner we have a clear will to vote INNOCENT (or FORGIVEN) for, and has respectively had the least restraint and eyes on her actions. Plus, she’s extremely rational and has a sense for people. Also, Yuno and Futa don’t really get along iirc

@shin9562

Жыл бұрын

Holy milgram this theory is absolutely min changing I'm excited to see if this comes true!

@Player-zp9cz

Жыл бұрын

@@noahi.1381 the only reason why I say Yuno AND Futa is because he’s oddly been mention the most within the other prisoner, Mahiru and amane are the only one confirmed to dislike Futa

@horizonpenblade1288

8 ай бұрын

IIRC kazui was also kinda questioning the nature of milgram, although less in a philosophical sense and more in a "how exactly does this magic shield work"/"how do they know i blame myself for my wife's death" sense

After this voice drama, even though I feel like the best option is to stop voting, but there’s wayyyy too many people on the internet and it’s practically impossible to stop anyone from voting After listening to fuuta’s second mv, I forgave him and came to listen to the voice drama. He’s apologetic, he knows what’s wrong and even called Es out so most people would forgive him (look at the votes lmao 79.24%innocent I-) But what worries me is what fuuta said at the end about wanting to kill Es if he didn’t forgive him. As a bsd manga reader fuuta reminded me of the line fyodor said ‘In this world, the most fearsome one is an average man who has become desperate’ Fuuta is obviously desperate to be forgiven, so according it would be expected that fuuta might go insane and do crazy shit if he’s voted guilty again. But what’s unpredictable is his behaviour after he has been forgiven. Arrogant like kotoko and Muu? Confident like haruka? Or just continue living like the 2 old men (lmao) Really hope that he doesn’t act out of line after this trial cuz the third trial is the only thing that can save him now

@duckducksduck

Жыл бұрын

I think if he’s guilty again he’s gonna die, the mv kinda hinted that he will kill himself if he gets voted as guilty again(making us hypocrites). But tbh to me he looks genuinely sorry abt what he done and I think if he is forgiven he won’t go all overconfident and stuff

@duckducksduck

Жыл бұрын

I think if he’s guilty again he’s gonna die, the mv kinda hinted that he will kill himself if he gets voted as guilty again(making us hypocrites). But tbh to me he looks genuinely sorry abt what he done and I think if he is forgiven he won’t go all overconfident and stuff

@lusees616

Жыл бұрын

there's no way to no longer vote anymore however we could try to balance both "forgiven" and "not forgiven" with 50, 50 meaning no real judgment is given

@aratabhist

2 ай бұрын

he joined cults lol

If I were him I'd also hate milgram tbh 🤷‍♀️ and in this voice drama u can rlly see how much it upset him that he got voted guilty and kotoko didn't, and I'd be upset as well cuz how is her crime justified but his isn't

@FakeVenatus

Жыл бұрын

People didn’t vote her because her crime is justified- but because we don’t want Mikoto to kill us

@RyomouShimei

Жыл бұрын

@@FakeVenatus but many people thought it was justified and literally used YASS GIRL as a reason to vote for her. Her crime is exactly like Fuuta's, and even the lyrics of Harrow have her admit it is for her own sake. "I want to be drowning in the knowledge that I am right" How is that different from Fuuta? It's not about real justice but themselves, but one got a free pass and the other didn't. I wasn't against Fuuta being unforgiven in round 1 but Kotoko shouldn't have been forgiven.

@Mycorrhiza

Жыл бұрын

Because for Kotoko their was a justification that the person she killed with her bare hands was bad. He was an adult and a kidnapper/child trafficker. Whereas for Fuuta he doxxed a middleschooler who was (presumably) innocent. Not defending her just explaining why she was Forgiven.

@Vale8that

Жыл бұрын

@@Mycorrhiza yea but I still feel like both should've been voted guilty. Both crimes weren't okay Imo just bc kotoko did something ppl see as more 'rightful'. In her mv I noticed a lot how it wasn't just that case but in general how she couldn't stop herself anymore and she even stopped going to college bc of that. And again, futa didn't want it to happen

@Midnightcblue

Жыл бұрын

@@Mycorrhiza futa has been stated to have a strong sense of justice and tries to do what is “good/right” even if he doesn’t go about it the best way, throughout this voice drama futa states how he was only pointing out what’s wrong is wrong, what’s a crime is a crime and that he didn’t know that she would die in the end. The girl wasn’t innocent, and futa wasn’t the only person to cyber bully her, he just kinda started the bandwagon and the others took it too far, this can be seen in backdraft by the amount of paint he sprays on the girls graffiti, futas paint symbolizing his involvement/ effort. On the others there was a lot of paint on the girls there was just a single line before other people jump on the bandwagon and bash her till she can’t take anymore and off’d herself

I think this entire vdrama proved his point, the only difference between them is no one has died in milgram yet and es isnt being punished. But once those differences are gone, Es and Fuuta basically share the same crime. And when that happens I wonder what will happen to Es?

Information is a weapon, and futa was simply the dealer. You don’t arrest the man who sold the weapon when someone else uses it to take a life, especially if he thought it would be used in a different way. He didn’t intend for her to kill herself. What he did was manslaughter at worst. It’s evident in backdraft that others did the majority of the damage. He shouldn’t be the one here, imo.

@cblazerc

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@derwent8781

Жыл бұрын

perfect explanation.

@novaakasha6217

Жыл бұрын

The information here is not the weapon, but the direction. The weapon is his followers. Futa threw a weapon forcefully in the girl's direction, the thing is that he didn't know what kind of weapon was thrown. a stone, a knife, a bullet, a BOMB? In the end, it resulted in death, that's his crime. play with fire. Also, Futa may be lying, let's remember that they are not obliged to tell the truth, and they can influence their videos at their convenience. It's somewhat contradictory, for example, in his first MV, he was the main aggressor, the one who did all the damage, with an increasingly stronger weapon, and here, suddenly in his second MV, he just made a line in the graffiti and then the others the rest, when in the previous graffiti he was the one that had the most drawing on top. Perfectly, he can still be in denial of the fact, and since he is cornered he admits the minimum fault in order to reduce the damage towards him. Everything that the prisoners tell us should always be taken with a grain of salt, because in the end, everything will always look for the most beneficial angle in pursuit of their goal.

@Mmannk

Жыл бұрын

@@novaakasha6217 the voice drama explained that the MVs are made from their memories. They can’t fabricate them. The first MV showed he thought he was fighting as a hero of justice, hence why he thought he should be the main character and showed him doing the large amounts of damage. His method of fighting was exposing people of their sins, and the damage was in correlation to how much it affected them. That weapon was the information. It shows at the end he didn’t mean for anyone to die, and thought he was destroying “evil”, not a human’s life. He had a party in the game in that MV, and it wasn’t just him attacking the “boss”. It only showed him dealing damage because he is the main character. In the second MV, it shows him marking the person with the spray paint. This signifies marking her as evil, setting her as a target. He’s mortified watching his past self do this. He started the attack, and he showed that he was joined by many other hands in this onslaught. The fact it’s symbolism again shows he thought he wasn’t killing something, further proven by the sudden switch in scenery to her crumbling rather than just a graffiti getting painted over. Reality struck, and the entire time he’s mortified beyond belief. This is from his own memories. He contributed, he started it, but he was not the only one who finished it and he didn’t know it was killing someone. It was manslaughter. I can’t be convinced otherwise. Even if he told her directly to kill herself, I’d not call him a murderer. He didn’t come to her house and take her life. She took her own life. I’ve considered suicide in the past because of situations similar, and I’d never call my bully a murderer because they made me want to die. And if he’s a murderer straight up, the other people who contributed should also be here. They’re just as wrong if not more, because it’s implied they KNEW what they were doing, contrary to Futa’s delusion that he was doing what was right.

@novaakasha6217

Жыл бұрын

@@Mmannk First, Yes, I know that the videos make up his memories, but it is also implied that his feelings and personal interpretations of them influence, that is what explains the big difference between the two MVs, if not, Futa's role from hero to marker, it would not have existed from one video to another. PS: Humans have something called "imagination", which can create memories and even modify them. I mean, things like the "mandela effect" is a good example of this. And a person who doesn't admit his crimes can perfectly create versions of his memories where he looks less guilty. Otherwise, as I said before, there couldn't be big differences between the perspectives shown from one MV to another. And no, the information was not the weapon in this case, since it was not used to harm her, as I said before, it was used to establish the path that the real weapon would take, which was bulliyng and aggression by people. Saying that information is the weapon is like saying that a knife is not a weapon, but the gravity that allows it to reach the momentum to be able to damage. If you want, you can view the information as an extension of the weapon, but if so, then you can assign other things as part of the weapon, such as Futa's "naivety", or people's thirst for "justice", even, if that girl was depressed, you can say that depression was the weapon that killed her. Literally, you can assign as a "weapon" a number of things that did not directly cause the bite of an individual, and therefore, we must focus on what most directly causes that death, which was tens/hundreds of people attacking her, which, was shot by Futa's action. That is, the followers are the bullet, the gun (what gives impulse and direction to the bullet) is the information, and Futa the trigger (since he was the one who pulled the trigger). and the dealer, is actually the person who told Futa about the girl. Now, let's get one thing straight, certainly the "Murderer" tag looks big on Futa, but it doesn't change the theme that he committed a homicide. And something that is open to interpretation, is that his regret comes from someone dying due to his carelessness or... be judged for that carelessness? Leaving completely aside the issue of someone dying or not. Does Futa even recognize that his actions could end someone's life in the first place? He said it himself, "I'm being judged for my only mistake", does Futa really regret what he did, or just the result? Let's not forget that Es, in order to judge them, wants to first understand the nature of what led to that result. We can compare it to running over someone, the vast majority of people who kill someone by running over them with their car due to "accident", due to "recklessness", are not aware of their car as a weapon at all, even if it is something that is repeated in the media, something they can tell you when you get your license, at the end of the day, for the average person, their car is not a weapon that can harm someone, until it happens. That can be applied to Futa. Justice in the digital field is young, and not only in the digital field, but also in the psychological and emotional field. Not long ago, various crimes could be dismissed when the damage only affects the person's mind. And in turn, with the right of free expression, a double-edged sword with which we will probably have to deal for eternity. Futa's actions enter the same window of a car as a weapon, here, social networks as a weapon. Thus, truly judging the nature of Futa's actions is the right thing to do, as the line between manslaughter and homicide. That's my problem with Futa, I want to forgive him, but I don't know what kind of "kid" he is. Is the "kid" who understands the weight of his actions, and the damage he can cause to others and therefore will stop having that attitude or doing those actions? Or is it the child who hurt himself because of his "mischief", and in turn was punished for it, out of fear, he won't do it anymore... until he forgets it, and since he never learned the weight of his actions, he commits it again? Regretting the result will never be the same as regretting your actions. And even if I call him "kid", Futa is an "adult", at least for our society and for the basics of the psychology of a person "aware of his actions". He chose to never see "villains" as people, he chose to use a "weapon" without knowing how dangerous it was. He chose to take action, although he did not have the obligation or authority, much less the correct capacities for it. All of this he did out of will, or if you want to be nice, full disregard for human values. and before my final thought, I will only say the following: 1- about your personal experience, I don't want to go into it fully, because it is not my place to comment on your life. But, something I have learned, both from personal experience, and by reading both fiction and serious documentaries. It is that "forgiving" something that was done to one is an act of self-healing rather than really "forgiving" the other person. From what you tell me, that "I'd not call him a murderer", is really not an argument that I can accept, when it comes personally. Because by forgiving him, you gain something, which is internal healing, being able to deal with your psycho-emotional issues without involving that person more. But from an objective point of view, the malicious act of bullying you is a crime, a crime, even if the perpetrator decides to ignore it, it can cause the death of a person, in multiple ways, one of them, suicide. As I said before, the same way as reckless driving on the street. Also, it is not the same to talk about the living than the dead. So I'm sorry if it's not the answer you expect, but even if the "victim" grants "forgiveness", to be impartial to them, the case in which the victim does not forgive him should also be analyzed. And as I said before, today we are more and more aware that the seriousness of the acts is not tied to direct physical action, like direct physical damage. In fact, for some people, it is much more serious and cruel, to lead a person to take their own life than to take by one.

I really don’t think he deserves this. I feel like if Es had forgiven Futa the first time, he would have dropped the egocentric bravado. That’s not who he is as a person I believe, and just a front to process his life choices. His MVs have all been consistent with a grip on reality and regretting what he did. I will still keep voting “forgiven” for Futa.

I'm gonna forgive him. I highly doubt he will ever bash someone online after this.

applause on fuuta's voice actor tho, that whole emotion on laughing and yelling is real. i feel like fuuta's already have his punishment by not being able to shake the guilty feeling out of him till the end of his life, before even entering Milgram.

This voice drama made me feel so bad for him. Because he totally has a point, and he’s literally begging you to understand what he means. Es was a real asshole in this drama ngl I couldn’t understand everything when I listened myself, so thank you for the translation, original TL! I hope Fuuta is innocent this time…

@marcyellelima

Жыл бұрын

Es sempre é um asshole. Com o haruka ele foi ainda pior

@jokerlyzermedia6603

Жыл бұрын

He is

@OMGKawaiiAngelxo

6 ай бұрын

good news, he's innocent.

i feel like futa heavily critiquing es here by saying they're exactly the same as futa himself says a lot about how deep down, he despises himself for what he caused (even through all the excuses and genuine talk blaming milgram and all that (i say blaming but it's definitely not like i disagree with him on everything))

The font change with futa at 13:53 legitimately gave me chills omg I didn't expect that 😭😭

yall, i think Fuuta isn't wrong when he said that Es getting entertainment out of the prisoners' sins. We are Es and Milgram is our entertainment. The countless voices are us when we are judging him on twitter. That mean, all the prisoners break the 4th wall And dear Fuuta...Im letting you innocent because your 11:11 cause me crying

@nara9404

10 ай бұрын

Same I almost cried

Oh man. When he said the part that we should "forgive him" and calling Es's name, it sent chills down to my spine. Then later both of them having a calm conversation, Es showing symphathy made me calm too. Then again when the bell rang, Es just had to do his "justice warden" speech xDD what a way to end things. Futa screaming at Es and threatening him, I totally felt his pain. Since he knows now what he did was a real mistake, I think (or most of us already know) it is best to vote him as forgive. The guy learned his lesson but is just now finding a way to escape the pain. Although I didn't participate yet on any of the voting in MILGRAM, I can really feel so many emotions while watching and learning their stories. I don't know if its just me, but I'm expecting a character development of Futa after this (like Shidou) since dudes/girls who knows their mistake, what is really "right" and "wrong" are the best versions of themselves and great people of society (You don't need to be smart or outshining, you just gotta be one of those who can understand one another)

101% would vote guilty for kotoko, can't wait

This is the voice drama that made me think the most in the actual Milgram experiment and that makes me nervous

Kotoko derides her self worth from beating up bad guys because her vigilantism is all she has. Similar to how Fuuta gains a sense of community going on those 'quests'. They both see themselves as the hero.

protect fuuta at all costs damn😭 i'm probably gonna vote kotoko guilty, because it doesn't make sense that she wants to "punish" the ones that didn't get forgiveness when she's literally a criminal like them. kotoko has good intentions, but she's expressing them in the wrong way, so maybe by voting "guilty" she's gonna understand. (plus, if fuuta gets out of milgram as innocent he most likely won't do anything like that online again, but if kotoko gets out as innocent she's probably gonna commit those crimes again).

@AmaitaYume

6 ай бұрын

Don't vote her guilty to make her understand. Well it's up to you, but you should vote her that is CONNECTED to her murder and how she changed. Don't forget how people vote AMANE guilty to make her understand. Think harder.

@whizz_0711

5 ай бұрын

@@AmaitaYumestill cant believe we voted amane (an ABUSED BRAINWASHED CHILD) guilty to ‘make her understand’ but not for Kotoko to ‘make her undertand’ 😀

@3lxna_

5 ай бұрын

​@@AmaitaYumei know, but if you actually vote her innocent the same thing will happen like in T1. if she is voted guilty it doesn't mean that she will necessarily behave as amane did.

I pity him, like, really. He looks really torn right now, and I don't blame him. He gets what he's done, he now has to feel what his victim felt, and I think that's a fair punishment. In the song, he mentioned that 'he did wrong once and there's no more chance' and begged for one more chance, which, ironically, he also didn't give any chance to his victim either. Karma did its thing, huh.

@dARKaZURE

Жыл бұрын

Also, I don't know if this is intentional, but the bell seems to have some kind of effect on the interrogation. Like, when the bell rang in Haruka's second trial, his furious mad self immediate calmed down, just like right now, after the bell rang in Futa's trial, Es almost threw their sympathy out of the window.

@ShoujoISMs

Жыл бұрын

THIS. that guilt futa's feeling is potent. he can deny it all he wants, but he knows he did something horrifying and he's having to deal with that. as a person who had a strong sense of justice, him coming to terms with the fact that he went against that must be... ouch. MORE THAN OUCH

How is he the guiltiest if he didn't even lay a finger on that girl who khs😭? *smashes innocent button*

@giganfan1everyoneelse451

3 ай бұрын

People didn't like his attitude and he denied ever doing anything (but he did feel bad obviously, I'm just saying why he was voted guilty)

"The feeling of getting judged by countless people at once is the worst" wasn't that how the girl felt? which lead her ending her life.

@duckducksduck

Жыл бұрын

Exactly…. Highlighting that we r being hypocrites by voting him guilty (or voting at all) so if fuuta gets guilty again he’s probably gonna try and kill himself (pls. Fuuta forgiven pls)

@kgmrenka

Жыл бұрын

He even said in Backdraft in one of the lyrics, "Should I just do as you want and go die?"

@whizz_0711

5 ай бұрын

@@duckducksduckfacts “its hard to go on” bro’s alr suicidal

God, Milgram is such a masterpiece. I spoke about this at length in a comment under Futa's 2nd MV, but Futa's character is just so well-written, compelling, and realistic. It's insane to me, as someone who was once in a similar type of community as Futa, to get such accurate, thoughtful, and well-developed representation lol.

@hanniesung3595

3 ай бұрын

Twt justice warrior rep

i think this is honestly traumatizing for someone, and at the end I totally understand why he'd say that i mean after all this happened to u ofc u'd wish the worst for them. and now reminding myself that milgram was also a real experiment, this must've been traumatizingggg

Feel like we learned a lot about Es in this one

hes so relatable bro.. 🙁 if he gets voted guilty im gonna cry

@thinkaboutchewi

Ай бұрын

Real

Fuuta really has a point, sometimes people judge belligerently but don't think about that they're the same as those who judge, Fuuta is right about him similarities with Es alsoo Es is really strong and keep calm very well, i think, if i was Es i will forgive Fuuta instantly because I'm very sensitive to people who cry and seems regret... thanks for the videoo

What makes Fuuta difficult in my opinion is that, while he's right that we or Es aren't that different from him in dishing out judgement, there is still no clear sign that he acknowledges he messed up ("I didn't think it would turn out this way" "I was just going off on some person online" "I wasn't violent" "It wasn't just me"). Even after going through what the girl who died went through (the eyes constantly judging, hearing voices could all be seen as symbols for the comments the girl received) he still, like Es said, has no words of apology. I understand what he's saying, that we have no right to judge, just like he had no right to comment a single thing he did. But it's acknowledgement of the last bit from his side that makes it difficult to decide. And his threats at the end don't help his case either.

@iluVioletLink

10 ай бұрын

very late reply but I agree with your point, he has changed but there are still a lot more things he should work on to really be ultimately forgiveable. I think our forgiven vote might make him change for the better in T3

4:43 They’re all murderers, did u forgot???? 😭 Tbh I find it funny how Es says murderer instead of like guilty or unforgiven for his murder. Kotoko and Fuuta’s murders are both really alike and completely opposite. They both killed for the sake of justice but Kotoko’s was intentional while Fuuta’s wasn’t and didn’t even get his hands dirty (Mahiru and him both having this similarity and both voted guilty really got me 💀). How they treated their situations is also similar, focused on their target and not the victims. Fuuta didn’t approach the woman and ask if she was alright or needed help while Kotoko didn’t even care about the poor kid the guy abducted. Personally hated what Kotoko did more (can understand y people would hate Fuuta’s actions more) mostly for how she didn’t care about the victim’s wellbeing like at all. The child also witnessed what went down, Kotoko could’ve helped the kid get free and run off before killing the guy but naw. Still love the meme of someone comparing these two and their votes.

Even he is not really innocent, I think he got his punishment. I'll vote him innocent this time.

@KanadeSenpai

7 ай бұрын

He definetly felt regret for what he did to the girl for good and he wont do the same thing again. He is innocent btw

Is no one going to mention how the prisoners can essentially “ hear” what we are saying as we vote them so they know. They know how we have been voting them and what thoughts have gone through our minds as we voted because us as the audience are essentially in the placement of ES and controlling his actions

When I watched the first MV I thought he was deluding himself between reality and fantasy This makes a lot more sense

He looks so cute in the thumbnail

its tough.. because i have sympathy and I want to forgive him, but at the same time he is so quick to defend himself and express how he has been treated unfairly rather than taking responsibility for the part he played. It seems his regret manifests in correlation with the consequences he's received and not the decisions he chose to make. I'll probably vote forgiven, because it seems he truthfully didn't mean to cause a death.

@dontask1363

Жыл бұрын

Think about the position he’s in tho, sure what he did wasn’t great but it definitely isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be, he didn’t want or mean to kill her she made that choice herself and now he’s ended up in this prison that gives you constant anxiety since he can hear everything we say and he got beaten up too

@LaplacesShaytan

3 ай бұрын

I don't think he killed anyone though. I think milgrams going to mature him a lot though.

Yes!!! I've been waiting for this, thanks for making it! edit: I wasn't expecting Es to be show as sympathetic here, I've always seen him as evil to be honest. I find odd how Fuuta blamed Es for "the voices in his head", although to be fair Es did enjoy scaring Fuuta and having power over him in his first interrogation. Even though I pity him, he would have turned into a jerk if he had been deemed innocent. The choice is basically turning a character into a jerk or turning them into a wooby. The cofrontantion was interesting. I hope at some point Es realizes that they are more than their job.

The best boy is now sad. Forgive him.

It's a terrible thing that happens irl People harass others online and sometimes resulting in them taking their own life But I can't blame Fuuta for that. The internet does make people forget that the other person is a human as well and making them say the worst things He didn't knew or even thought about how much it could hurt the other person It's a difficult topic and I think it also matters on how severe the harassment was and what came from his side especially which I don't know yet But the only thing I know is that it wasn't his intention to kill someone and that's what matters to me right now. I'll vote innocent

I almost cried. I thought I didn't have favorites. I was wrong.

Damn this was intense! The voice acting is top notch as always too. Thank you for the video! Also I appreciated Amogus Futa at the end haha

I'll be happy if Fuuta gets out and Amane, Haruka and Maiharu get threapy. That's the true ending for me Edit: Can Fuuta hear us? Like he's breaking the 4th wall? Or in this case there's a crack in the wall and he's forced to look through it

My boy Fuuta will always be innocent!

the voice dramas as interesting as i hoped. i really wondered how the prisoners who were voted guilty would act in the voice drama, and was especially interested since futa alongside yuno is my favourite character. now the thing about futa is that he didnt actually murder anyone. ofc to him, being voted guilty even tho some others prisioners who ACTUALLY murdered someone with their hands (mu, haruka, shidou, kotoko) is obviously unfair. and he does have a point. who are we to judge what he did??? we're basically doing the exact same thing that futa did. im voting him innocent because i really think he can and will change for the better (and he alreay did a bit). im now looking forward to mu and mahiru's voice dramas

I actually lost it when Es got mad, saying that they're totally different from Fuuta, who was just seeing this all as a game. es my poor baby. es you have no idea. lmaoooooo

honestly I just “Gh… Graahh… AaaAAAGHHH!!…!!” Too, fuuter. So relatable

I just came into milgram, so I didn't get to vote on season 1, but when I watched fuuta's trial and voice drama, I knew I would've voted not to forgive him if I was there for it, just for the entertainment, to see him break I got what I want, got called out, and he's breaking! he's in pain and that's what I wanted plus he gave me a good arguement, you are now forgiven!!!!

WHY DID YOU GUYS VOTE FOR HIM TO BE GUILTY, HE HAS A POINT YALL WHAT DID EVERYONE DO

@Simo_bimo

9 ай бұрын

I really love futa he’s my favorite character and i’m not sane about him but If they did vote him innocent he probably would be like “see I wasn’t the one caused her death like i told you” and would lack character development acceptance of what he did etc plus if their crimes were real people would obviously forgive kotoko’s crime because she killed a criminal while futa was the reason a girl in middle school died so no one would forgive him everyone would praise the person who killed a criminal on purpose not the person who accidentally was the reason for a middle school girl to die so voting futa guilty was very reasonable

@kaiaromanelli-sr4rx

9 ай бұрын

@@Simo_bimo yeah, I just didn’t know what he would do after the verdict. Idk if it would give him validation that he is not a monster, or if it would give him validation that his murder was okay to do

Oh hey, we uploaded our English-subbed Futa stuff at around the same time 😂 Oof, sorry to hear people have been pestering you to get on it so quickly; subbing videos is tedious work, and you've got a life outside of this. I'm just thankful you're still keeping up with it. Can't wait to set aside time to watch this one too!

@ac-gf4zt

Жыл бұрын

Love your stuff!! Thank you for your hard work as well and all of the kind comments ❤️

@guard-tan4259

Жыл бұрын

@@ac-gf4zt Ahhhhh, thank you 😭 !! That means so much!! Let's both keep doing our best for the fandom ❤ !

9:30 FUUTA NANDAYO !!!

7:33 I AM CRYING I FUCKING LOVE HIS LAUGH

I voted him forgivable bc of the reaons he state so this hurts :c

my poor boy PLS . FORGIVE HIM PLEASE

I am as always late as hell, but I wanna voice my thoughts too. I never understood how the heck Kotoko was forgiven round one? Sorry for my poor english in advance) If we compare two of them: both fight for their justice, both are searching up information on targets and "punish" them. But the last part of "punishment", that's where they're so different! In Futa's case, I assume, it could be physical violence or doxing ppl at max, but NEVER murder. Kotoko, on the other hand, is literally a cold-blooded killer. She thinks that executing people will be the only way of punishing bad ones (even if not the only, she still thinks killing will be justifiable punishment for whatever the crime). Kotoko doesn't regret her doings at all (her grinning in the middle of mv and smiling towards the end), but if we're talking about Futa - he knows he fucked up and at the end person died (girl who killed herself presumably, plus that's even not like a direct murder, plus he's not the one to make final push, but we're putting it aside, cause with the first mv we couldn't have known it), the point is, that he regrets it so so much. That's like his full trauma from the get go! We live in the time where death penalty is abolished in the majority of countries with no matter how serious the crime is and no matter the person. Just wow! So it just blows my mind that the girl, who's literally bringing death penalty to people plus definitely will be doing it again, was forgiven, and the guy, who was so traumatised by his slip up plus definitely won't do it again, was found unforgivable.. (just at first, I know, I'm happy for my boy rn)) I am aware that bringing justice to other people by yourself is already morally challenging, but I'm talking more about how it was done by each of them) P.S: AND I know I know how without this second song maybe it wasn't so clear about Futa really regretting his actions, but I'm more talking about Kotoko being forgiven by such large amount of votes compared to her guilty verdict P.S.2: I don't believe anyone is going to see this, but I still wanted to voice out my thoughts, but if you read all of this despite my bad grammar, you're literally a hero to me) Have an amazing rest of your day~

i am so overwhelmed to hug futa whenever i see him. i cannot go through 5 minutes without thinking about futa. a fried of 8 years said that futa should be voted guilty and i cut him off. i am futa strongest soldier. if futa gets a bad ending i get a bad ending. futa needs a forehead kiss and a warm glass of milk. i am not a futa apologist because there is nothing to apologise for. if futa has 100 fans, i’m one of them. if futa has 10 fans, i’m one of them. if futa has one fan, it’s me. if futa has 0 fans, i’m dead. if the world is against futa, i’m against the world

@Shitnonome_Akito

9 ай бұрын

You are my long lost sibling hi

I wasn't expecting to find any subbed version of this for a long time so you are an absolute saint for getting this out so quickly when translating can be quite the chore. Thank you so much you have all the gratitude I can give! ^-^

@hearts.22

Жыл бұрын

see the end! but I agree, I was excited to find this

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

Жыл бұрын

The person who provided the translation was given a shoutout at the end.

I know that i should stop voting. But i won't until fuuta is forgiven. I'm curious about his development the most. How will he turn to when he is forgiven? Will there be a plot twist instead? What'll happen to him at the end? You see after i read a lot of serial manga, manhwa and manhua, i become the kind of person who even when i still at the beginning and didn't even yet at the middle part of the story, i look up for spoilers (most of them is adapted from novel) anyway to see how the story end. Same as this i'm curious how the story will end and more importatntly, the results or outcomes from our 'judgement' towards the prisoner and of course, ES. Will something happend to them too? I'm really CURIOUS. And for some reasons this project kinda awake the darkside of me.

We should all just try to get a 50/50 in the last trail or not vote at all

@lishasubs6726

Жыл бұрын

Too bad we couldn't control the entire population of the voters. There are also those JP voters too who completely had different perspective and might have the biggest influence to the results 😭

Since some of the prisoner's desires are meant to align with each other (Haruka and Mu, for example) I wonder if Futa would have teamed up with Kotoko if he'd been voted innocent.

@lishasubs6726

Жыл бұрын

+1

@Simo_bimo

11 ай бұрын

I don’t think he would join her since he did say in trail 1 “those who resort to violence are scum they do it because they're stupid” but he wouldn’t be as hateful and unforgiven towards her as he is now

Why do I feel like both sides are right in some areas and wrong in others?

Ahhh his voice is really nice

I genuinely feel bad for futa but The end… *amogus*

futa is easily the most innocent of milgram, but lots of people won’t choose to forgive him because they’ve gone through the same sort of pain that he inflicted. im voting him innocent no matter what, but honestly it might be different if I could relate more to the victim.

@booksandmanga5978

Жыл бұрын

(not counting Yuno here because of the disagreements regarding her crime)

i love how Fuuta in the 2nd trial / this video clearly experience's his victims demise. He feels like the whole world is laughing and is feeling targetted for something bad he did which Es punished him for to the point of losing his right eye. The idea that his fate is the same as his victim rlly adds depth. Anyways everyone vote innocent please!!!! this man said "ill kill you" because of the emotional and physical trauma he is experiencing, he probably won't try to kill Es it was more so a breakdown and self defence mechanism.

Fuuta is spitting facts

@KanadeSenpai

7 ай бұрын

Fr fr

Bro sounds like he’s getting over a cold at 7:40

Thank you for this!! This was really interesting. I feel kinda bad for Es, can’t wait to see if we get a backstory for them and how it ties into all this. I wonder if there will be ever be a point where Es begins to doubt Milgram?

@agh4sst396

Жыл бұрын

the only way i can c es doubting milgram rn is if we all collectively stop voting. in yunos voice drama and in this one its heavily implied that not voting is the right course of action, bc even if we vote some1 innocent, harm is done and we're playing in2 the shit system of milgram. we've been voting therfore es themselves still think they HAVE 2 do this.

After watching this and listening to Futa' second trial song, I felt bad voting him guilty during the first trial. I wish I can talk to Futa and apologize to him for that hasty verdict.

I’m sorry but his gremlin laughter made me forgetting what I was thinking about this entire thing 😂

It would be nice if nobody voted, but since it is impossibile I just want all of them to be innocent.

DENIAL IS A RIVER IN EGYPT!!! FUUTA IS INNOCENT!!!

The giggles r so cute💗💗💗💗

@GE-0530RN

Жыл бұрын

(my ass ignoring the fact that he got beat up and is in pain)

@dreamingscales

Жыл бұрын

@@GE-0530RN just like me fr

I think in the end they will judge us too. Fuuta’s words saying we’re the same and some cases make me think that way. As everyone mentions even though the crimes was similar in nature and Kotoko’s was literally murder we judged her innocent while judging Fuuta guilty, so that means we did a bad job and didn’t judge them equally i think. Fuuta’s reaction could be positive if we judged them both guilty, since he feels guilt, judging him guilty then innocent is good, but not judging them equally is making us look like hypocrites. So we might lose points for that lol. Of course they said we were free to judge them however we want but they never said there won’t be any repercussions. I think that’s what they meant in this interrogation

kotoko is a hypocrite

@svolochcyka

Жыл бұрын

so is es. fuuta 100% has a point.

@StrawberryHerring

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@StrawberryHerring

Жыл бұрын

I 100% agree

@StrawberryHerring

Жыл бұрын

Like, what makes them so different from Fuuta? In my POV, they're actually worse

@noahi.1381

Жыл бұрын

Right, so does Es. Tbh, the actions of Es to other prisoners really pisses me off because of Es’ attitude. It’s no wonder the guilty-voted prisoners kinda hate Es (and even Yuno and Shidou, to an extent)

Thanks a lot for doing these videos, i'ts amazing!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK 🙏🙏

Thank you so much for that! That was really quick!

7:34 on 2x speed

Yes guys, we got it, "forgiven" was his result of the 2 trial

Voting him innocent, idc. Knowing that he was voted guilty in the 1st trial makes my blood boil

Fuuta is so real. I just started to vote now, to give innocent vote for Fuuta(Im too late to vote, but i will choice guilty Kotoka tho, she really deserves it) i don't want vote to others, because i can't its hard to choice who guilty and who not. Fuuta and Kotoka are the only people i will give my votes to. Futa is innocent in ny eyes, while Kotoka guilty.

The among us at the end bro

I wonder how this would be if he was voted innocent from the start

ty so much for the upload!!

it's funny that es has been a hypocrite all the way

love Fuuta his songs..his lore dang!!

I'll save you my little meow meow

tysm for these!

I know it's over but more than ever, I can't judge him guilty...it doesn't even feel right to judge anymore... he's right, we're like him.

Im always call him innocent since 1st trial. Yes he seem like a problematic brat but out of all prisoners he is the least murder. Everyone was clearly kill their target for whatever reason and fuuta just "i saw her doing something indecent, let's spread it on online so she learned her lesson". Es is as fuuta said "what's wrong is wrong, crime is crime. I didn't expect her to die" . There could be a chance of someone in milgram die and es get thrown in too as disposable pawn with context "now you're a murderer too" where es finally eat her own medicine

Fuuta kinda hot, definitely not why I voted him innocent though.