「ミルグラム」2周目説ってあるかな?最初のジャッカロープの反応といい空いている11番目の牢といい、エスはもともとは囚人で、唯一赦されたから2周目では記憶を消して「看守」役についた…っていうのがあってもおかしくない気がしてきた。

@user-nj2ei1hx4c

2 жыл бұрын

ジャッカロープ、いつもこうなんだって言ってましたし、それありそうですよね。

@user-bi4gd8ek7b

2 жыл бұрын

許すなら共犯者って歌詞あるし、許したらエスが11人目になるって可能性もある気がする 誰かを死刑にしたら殺した罪でエスはやっぱり11人目になるとか

@user-sv3jy5iy2v

2 жыл бұрын

全く同じこと考えてる人おったわ(最近どっぷりハマってきた新参) 一番最初に開けてた０番目の箱、それと同じ形で用意されたほかの10個の箱、やっぱり同じ「裁かれる」側の人間なんじゃないかなって僕も思いました

@N_mirra13

2 жыл бұрын

ちなみにその11番目の牢の描写ってどこですか？

@nanase_xox

2 жыл бұрын

@@N_mirra13 エスのCDのボイスドラマで聴けます！

ふと思ったのですが 2:44で各キャラ達が殺した人物がエスに成り代わってるんですよね。そしてエスは『僕(あなた)』である。このことから…… もしもあなたが被害者だったとしたら、自分の人生を強制的に終わらせた人物を赦せるのですか？ という問いかけが入っている気がするのは私だけですか？？？

@Kamenrider40

3 жыл бұрын

まぁミルグラムのアプリで自分達が赦すか赦さないかを投票するからってのもあると思うけどね

I see a lot of comments about the last prisoner being Es, but I don't think that's all there is to it. I say they're representing a much larger group, like how the prisoners each represent wider issues-teen pregnancy and abortion, bullying, growing up in a cult, etc. So yes, Es is a prisoner, but the prisoner they're representing? It's us. The audience. The power of public opinion is a double-edged blade. On one hand, people can be really supportive. They can raise cash for charities, they can volunteer for relief after major disasters, or even help an old lady cross the street. On the other hand, people are absolute monsters. Take every single bullying situation where an entire class gangs up on a single person, a bunch of people canceling someone online, or maybe an entire city marginalizing social minorities. In this case, Milgram is harnessing the power of social opinion to judge whether the prisoners should be condemned or forgiven, but is it really our place to? Frankly, we're not the ones they killed. We're not even related to the ones they killed. But we have a say in whether or not they should be forgiven. Us, as total strangers? To put in perspective, imagine if your mother was murdered. You love her, she loves you, you have a happy and healthy relationship, and then all of a sudden, she's gone. Her murderer is put on trial. The circumstances regarding the murder are unclear enough that it's a fifty-fifty on whether the murderer is declared guilty or walks free from self defense. Somehow, the case blows up and now the whole nation knows and has their opinions on it. You listen to their comments everyday, speculating. Maybe your mother deserved to be murdered. Maybe the fault lies elsewhere. Maybe the murderer should be forgiven. Maybe the murderer isn't bad, but another victim. Whatever the case, it all boils down to this: you have a bunch of strangers butting in on something that's not their business and trying to influence the outcome of the case. Similarly, we're doing the same thing as the audience. We're breaching the privacy of the prisoners by looking into their thoughts via the mv's and we're the ones judging their crimes despite not being related to them. So again, is it really our place to judge them?

@_tamashii_

2 жыл бұрын

I really like how you write this. This is an interesting perspective. I always wonder about this myself too. Before I judge someone, I always asks myself: "Am I even better?" I still make sins. Sure, not to the extent of murder like the prisoners, but that still doesn't mean I should feel righteous. That's why I like the lines sung by Es from this song. "Is it really okay to be done deciding with just your Ego?" It's true. We judge mostly from our Ego. I can't wait to see how this project will go from here. If it actually inspired from the real Milgram experiment, then it's likely we're the subjects here.

@agathaplayziez4953

2 жыл бұрын

THIS. milgram's whole point isn't about guilty or not, but forgive or not. they constantly talk about forgiveness and even the voting system is based on condoning.

@nanamacapagal8342

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not the best at making theories but here's my attempt. If there's anything you'd like to add, please let me know. Everything in this MILGRAM project represents something. 000-ES: The audience. Are we in the right to judge? 001-HARUKA: Maturity. People laugh when you're acting immature. 002-YUNO: Teenage pregnancy. Is it pro-life or anti-choice? 003-FUTA: Cancelling. At what point does justice become a criminal offense? 004-MU: Bullying. 005-SHIDOU: Hopelessness. 006-MAHIRU: Stalking. Doxxing has taken this one even further. 007-KAZUI: Neglect. 008-AMANE: Religion. 009-MIKOTO: Identity. Are you really the same person you claim to be in the eyes of others? 010-KOTOKO: Justice. And I only need four letters to tell you exactly what this has to do with the real world: ACAB. JACKALOPE: Society itself. Always watching, always silently judging. Except we're pretty much a whole bunch of these characters combined in some way or another.

@juni__

Жыл бұрын

this is such a good take on the whole milgram situation

@jujuojuojuojujuoisjoke1465

Жыл бұрын

You've summed it up so well. There's a child in my life who has such strong opinions on subjects she doesn't even understand. Everything is black and white to her and it scares me whenever she talks to me about, say, how someone deserves to lose their job, their life, everything, after bullying someone. But that's the thing. What if the "bully" was never even a bully at all? We're not the "bully". We're not the "victim", either. So why do you think it is your place to judge so matter-of-factly? And it isn't just her, either. There are millions of other children, just like her, banding together to blindly play God with other peoples' business.

第一審MV視聴前　「なんやこれみんなかっこいいやん！！こんなん無罪や！！」 第一審MV視聴後　「倫理観ぶっ飛んでる奴おるやんけ　赦さん」

最後の、エスっぽい子が囚人にめっちゃ襲われてる所、皆が人を殺した時の殺し方？なんじゃねって思ったら鳥肌(伝われ) 違ったらごめんだけど、フータ殺してるってより襲ってる感あった気がしたから、やっぱいじめてた子が自殺したとかかな...

@user-hq9up3me5f

4 жыл бұрын

天才ですか……？

@msoimkoi

3 жыл бұрын

最初の青い子(名前忘れた)は家庭の事情だったら赦せる？ ムウちゃんは正当防衛で殺すのは赦せる？ 小学生の子(名前忘れた)は幼かったら赦せる？ フータは間接的な殺人だったら赦せる？ 多重人格説出てる子(名前忘れた)は別人格だったら赦せる？ みたいな、こう言う理由だったら赦せるんだねってことだと思ってる

赦すの定義は「共犯を認める事」という文を読んだ事があります。共犯者が、罪を責める事は出来ないですからね。

もしかして、0番であるエスは“まだ”罪を犯していないのかも知れない。しかしエスが間違ったジャッジを下すこと、つまり誤審は十分罪と呼べる。十人の囚人の罪について歌っているのは、今から自分が犯すかもしれない罪(誤審)に彼らの罪が関わっていて、エスの罪は自分自身の因縁ではなく一方的な審判の結果であるからと推測できる。

decoさんより、エスの声優さんには各キャラのパートはそのキャラの歌い方を真似て歌ってもらったそうです。素晴らしいですね。「さぁしっぽ巻いて黙ってどうぞ」とかわかりやすいですね。好きです。

@user-yz5uc5iy9s

3 жыл бұрын

最高かよおおおおお！

@mtm9603

3 жыл бұрын

フータからムウの変わり方がわかりやすいですよね (荒い感じから弱くなった感じが)

@huwarari9926

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtm9603 マヒルさんとかカズイおじも分かりやすい

@eLA-bj8cl

2 жыл бұрын

DECO*27が1番

@Takosumi_game

2 жыл бұрын

「僕」と書いて「あなた」って読むのはエス（僕）が視聴者（あなた）の意思を反映しているからかな

もうこれOPに使ってミルグラムのアニメ作って欲しい

@user-uu7pc3vo9w

4 жыл бұрын

なにそれ超絶見たい

@upashi-

4 жыл бұрын

アニメ 映画化希望で!!✧︎

@user-ql3pd3yk7n

4 жыл бұрын

@@upashi- 実写は嫌かなぁ…

@user-ig6ho6sn3b

4 жыл бұрын

それ絶対作画崩壊するやつ(○○プロで学んだ)

@pigred62owo

4 жыл бұрын

山下真樹 映画化言うとるだけで実写と違うんやないかな...???

回想シーン 2:09　ハルカ　部屋 2:10　コトコ　路地裏、右上にサイレンぽい光 2:11　ユノ　　学校の屋上？腹抑えてる？ 2:12　ミコト　仕事？ 2:13　フータ　葬式、スマホで撮影 2:13　アマネ　シャワー？雨？ 2:14　ムウ　　教室 2:14　シドウ　病院 2:15　カズイ　車道 2:15　マヒル　手を重ね合わせてる タイムテーブル上手く行かなかったので目安です 殺害シーンっぽいシルエット 2:44　ハルカ エスの首に痕跡。絞殺？ハルカがエスに股がってる。ハルカの隣に小さくて丸い影があってそれが小さい子供に見える（曲げてるエスの足かも）。画面右下の破片に血痕。 2:45　ユノ エスの腹部に痕跡。右側にナイフが刺さってるようにも見える。刺殺？ユノの体制が足を付いて踏ん張っているように見えるから流産？手がどこにあるかは見えないのでわからない。 2:46　フータ エスの首~上半身に痕跡。撲殺？胸ぐらを掴んで無理矢理立たせようとしているように見える。フータもかなりの返り血を浴びてる。 2:55　ムウ エスの腹部に痕跡。ムウの手にカッターらしきもの。刺殺（MVに描写あり）。エスに股がってるムウ。 2:56　シドウ エスの胸あたりに痕跡。刺殺？赤い塊が出てるように見える（臓器？）。エスの足が地面についてなさそう、吊るされてる？ 2:57　マヒル エスの首に痕跡。首を絞めているように見える。絞殺？（MVから考察すると自殺っぽいから首吊りかも）。エスの左足の靴が脱げてる。2:17でマヒルは手を握ってたけど、相手は握り返していない（手が開いた状態）から死体と手を合わせてた？ 3:01　カズイ エスの顔~腹に痕跡。エスをカズイが抱き上げてるように見える。自殺？（MVから考察すると飛び降りだけど轢死もありえる）。エスの左足の靴が脱げてる。 3:02　アマネ エスの腹に痕跡。正面から棒状のもので殴ってる。撲殺（2:13が風呂場だとするとシャワーヘッドが兇器？）。アマネの背後にアマネの帽子と何かがあるけどよく見えない。 3:04　ミコト エスの背中に痕跡。形状、MVからしてバットで背後から殴ってる。撲殺。 3:06　コトコ エス自体には痕跡が見当たらない。コトコの足には飛び散ってる。殺害方法、不明。エスの腕らへんを蹴ってる。

@dibujugador6024

Жыл бұрын

gracias por hablar de las siluetas. la silueta perteneciente a Fuuta me confunde. al ser el pecado de Fuuta algo más indirecto resulta difícil de interpretar la silueta

@speedywater

8 ай бұрын

アマネちゃんのシーンはシャワーだよ

@l_lanran

8 ай бұрын

もし彼らの殺害シーンの対象をesにして見せているのではないかと思いますね?🤔

@speedywater

8 ай бұрын

@@l_lanran そうですよ

@user-pm5bf2ky7y

7 ай бұрын

わざわざありがとうございます(´▽｀)

(Edited again after Kotoko 2nd Trial) Another theory, this time overarching the prisoners. As previously mentioned, the prisoners seem to come in pairs, even in release dates. Jackalope explicitly stated the numbers are important somehow. We have yet to learn why, but here’s my thoughts on that. The prisoner’s rooms are arranged in a clock formation, from 000 to 010, and a hallway at the end for the common rooms. Now divide the clock into 6 parts, 2 prisoners in each part (except 000 and the hallway) Each part represents a ‘theme’ of murder: 001-002 = *Family/Attention* (Haruka the Starved Child, Yuno the Tired Parent) 003-004 = *Manipulation* (Futa the Scapegoated Follower, Mu the Arrogant Initiator) 005-006 = *Timeless Love/Passion* (Shidou, trapped in Love Left Behind, Mahiru stuck in Love That Could've Been) 007-008 = *Promises/Commitment* (Kazui the Self-Denying Breaker, Amane the Stubbornly Committed) 009-010 = *Fight or Flight* (Mikoto the Self in Constant Flight, Kotoko the Self-Serving Fighter) As for 000 & the hallway, the theme for them is not direct murder. I think the theme is Bystander. 000 the Deciding Audience/Judge, and the common areas the Helpless Participant/Verdict. I will explain the additional descriptions in a reply. This comment will update after each trial. MAJOR EDITS over the years: - 004's label - 005/006's THEME and labels - 007/008's labels - 009/010's labels

@hanseldangretel7472

2 жыл бұрын

That is a frickin good obervation, wow!

@Rilakuma4567

2 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe how much sense this made. It’s such a good observation, thank you for sharing!

@chaoscat1499

2 жыл бұрын

Good catch! I knew something was up with the pairings, but I couldn't figure out what until this comment. It also made me consider something odd that I had noticed, but had dismissed until now. Now, throughout the project, the prisoners have been presented in numerical order; Haruka comes first, then Yuno, then Futa, etc. This has been an invariable constant. EXCEPT for 2:08-2:15, where the scenes for each prisoner are shown in an entirely new order: Haruka, Kotoko, Yuno, Mikoto, Futa, Amane, Mu, Shidou, Kazui, Mahiru This pattern is, as far as I can tell, never repeated elsewhere, and the fact that the scenes are shown again mere seconds later in the "proper" order suggests this was not just an oversite. I had no idea what this new order could mean, but your comment did give me an idea: perhaps this new order is meant to indicate secret, hidden pairings between the cast. What those pairings mean, I'm not entirely sure, but it could be worth looking into.

@lia-bf4ps

2 жыл бұрын

big brain moment

@Rilakuma4567

2 жыл бұрын

@@chaoscat1499 This is the pattern with the prisoners respective numbers as well : Haruka 01 - Kotoko 10 - Yuno 02 - Mikoto 09 - Futa 03 - Amane 08 - Mu 04 - Shidou 05 - Kazui 07 - Mahiru 06 I intially thought that it was going in a first then last, back and forth order. (1,10,9, 2 that kind of thing) but starting from Mu (04) we begin counting up again. So I think you’re right to think that the order has relevance but I’m not too sure what…

中性的な声だけど女性キャラの時はちょっと女性っぽく、男性キャラの時はちょっと男性っぽく聞こえる…すご…

これを後々「ああ、こんなところに伏線が…あんなところにも…」とか思いながら聴くんだろうなあ

@user-vl9ne3cq1x

4 жыл бұрын

せやなぁ… それも楽しみ…ww

@user-po8he7zg2o

4 жыл бұрын

そう考えると聴く回数倍ぐらいに増えそうですねw

@user-tz3fh3sp3u

4 жыл бұрын

てか考察と勉強のために10回か20回は絶対聞いてるんだよな

@marasamia4112

4 жыл бұрын

間違いない！

@user-pw9xl5dv9m

4 жыл бұрын

今後に期待したいですね！

キリスト教の聖書によると 羊→善 ヤギ→悪だそうです。 2つのマークがでてくるので参考にしてみてください。

@user-tz3fh3sp3u

4 жыл бұрын

おー！いい情報ゲットー！

@user-ct1dc5fy9w

4 жыл бұрын

え、てことはシルエットからイラストに切り替わる間奏の部分(語彙力)のマークって羊とヤギですよね…??脳に近いところに羊(善)がある場合、なんらかの事情があって殺さざるを得なかった(?)のか…????アマネとか虐待っぽいし楽になるために殺した…的な(語彙力皆無)

@user-cc9fd8kw3o

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ct1dc5fy9w 確認してきたら全員羊の方が脳に近かったです…！ その人が善か悪かあなたが判断しろ、的なやつですかね…？

@user-xn3eu1mm3l

4 жыл бұрын

ジャカロープさんツノがヤギしてる

@user-cc9fd8kw3o

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-xn3eu1mm3l ジャッカロープってのはこのために作られたキャラじゃなくて、アメリカのワイオミング州あたりの未確認生物なんですけど、あれはシカの角ですよ！

In Es's voice drama, it's revealed that there's an eleventh prison cell that's left unoccupied. Combining this with Es's lost memories leads me to think that there's a link between the two. If you look at the commonalities between the prisoners, each one has a song of their own, a cover of another one of Deco*27's songs, as well as a voice drama, which for some reason applies to Es but doesn't apply to Jackalope. From some of the other prisoners' voice dramas, we find out that Es gets violent with some of the other prisoners. It's quite likely that Es is the last prisoner.

@raijin8049

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and they also hold like a cube in the beginning with 00 written on it and there were like other cubes too from 01 to 10 so maybe Es is like the 0th prisoner or like an other theory in this comment section the one that has been killed through different dimensions

@indyana5793

3 жыл бұрын

@@raijin8049 bit late to the party but if you look at 0:18 you can clearly see 11 of those cubes, one for every prisoner and that with the fact that Es opens 000

@cityyliights_

3 жыл бұрын

where do you find the voice dramas? and are there translations for them yet?

@Dennyspuncakes

3 жыл бұрын

@@cityyliights_ there are fan translations, you just gotta do some searching online and will probably find them

@cityyliights_

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinli8000 thanks so much !

エスって黒い手袋をしてるけど、黒い手袋って「私の穢れを見せたくない」っていう意味があるらしい…。 やっぱエスなんかあるわぁ…

嫌い対OKの境界線を 我儘のまま終わっていいの？ ってとこって私たちが見た目や声の好き嫌いで、赦す赦さないを決めていいの？ってことだと思う。 既に推しを決めている人への皮肉？

@user-nh3li7uv4h

4 жыл бұрын

そうなんですかね...それだったらエス本人は基準はなんでもいい(性癖とかもw)と言っているので矛盾しちゃわないすかね...？

@user-fm4sk7ts7s

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-nh3li7uv4h 確かに矛盾しちゃいますね💦 それを踏まえて的な…？無理矢理ですけど笑

@ufer1575

4 жыл бұрын

りょっきー明太子 矛盾というか、性癖でもいいけど本当にそれでいいの？っていう感じの問いかけかなぁと思います。

@user-fm4sk7ts7s

4 жыл бұрын

@@ufer1575 めっちゃ納得！

@user-nh3li7uv4h

4 жыл бұрын

@@ufer1575 確かに納得致しました天才ですか

エスの声優さんの、男とも女ともつかない声質が、性別が分からないエスにあっててすごく好き。あと、歌い方もとても好き。 『痛いのはいつまで続くのかな』の音の切り方とか、『赦せるかなーｧｩｯｯ』(語彙力)みたいな切なそうな音の切り方がドツボすぎて。。

I'm new here and reading all these advance theories are giving me headaches for someone who just started at step 1, but all seriousness aside, this song is a bop tho and sure will the next ones

@betryl3669

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I literally discovered all of this yesterday but I'm so invested already, can't wait to see more!

@gitteoki2385

2 жыл бұрын

aaa I thought I discovered this late but I'm happy there are others like me! I'm so into this my head hurts

@Desiree-9

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Milgram!

@shinycharizard97

2 жыл бұрын

This is my first video. Can someone tell me what this is?

@slavenugget8628

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinycharizard97 It's about forgiving the prisoners or not, ur the one who who will judge them.

小説読んできた直後のクソデカ感情のままコメントしてるんだけど、 「赦すなら共犯者」 「全てを知った僕はちゃんと赦せるかな」 がもうほんと天才のそれすぎて

@kasasagi_xyxy

2 жыл бұрын

共感

0:33の「フュー↑チャー↑」がすき てか、マジ尊い

@user-sr8hg5uv2x

4 жыл бұрын

激しく同意

@user-bz4wb6ef4h

4 жыл бұрын

クリームアイス 分かる。最初聞いた時はびっくりしたけど、何回も聞いていくと癖になる

@nontimax

4 жыл бұрын

分かる（笑）えぇ……高っ！って最初なったけど癖になるw

@user-zl3fw9rn5d

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-sr8hg5uv2x それなですそれなすぎてそれなです

@okaits6150

2 жыл бұрын

確かに。 ただカラオケで歌うとき地獄w

Here's a little thing about the lyrics, every time Es transition to one prisoner, after the line 'UNDER', the lyrics are as if sang by the prisoner. If you watch the cast introduction, it's similar.

@K125K

3 жыл бұрын

You make a good point. I've been enlightened.

@katzwei_

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too and,,, nice xiao prfp

@childofwelp

2 жыл бұрын

@@katzwei_ now it’s ayaka

@no_name_izzy

Жыл бұрын

That's really cool

@nekoyin8040

Жыл бұрын

yea and his voice changes like for mu and haruka its soft and timid and for mahiru and amane its sweet and a bit girly and for futa its a bit angry

今さらだけどラスサビを見ていつか囚人メンバー達がエスに対して手を出してきそうじゃないかと思ってしまった。

@user-ss5ty6uo5e

11 ай бұрын

確かに…殺してるのエスだもんね、手を出しそうだな…とくにミコトとかミコトとかミコトとか((

@helloex-6767

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-ss5ty6uo5e ミコトくんばっかじゃねーか！w

@user-zy9fv1lb7j

11 ай бұрын

ボイスドラマのネタバレ含みます ボイスドラマですでに手出されてましたね…ぶん殴られるエス君とてもよかったです墓に帰ります

@helloex-6767

11 ай бұрын

@@user-zy9fv1lb7j ※ほんのちょっぴりネタバレ 私も初見聞いた時ビックリしたし殴られた後苦しそうにするエスくんにリョナ心が芽生えたし 私の中でミコエスというカップリングに目覚めてしまったきっかけでもあるんですよねホントにありがとう((((

@user-zy9fv1lb7j

11 ай бұрын

@@helloex-6767 絶対趣味あうじゃないですかあ…

ミクちゃんカバー聴いて帰ってきた民おるやろ？？おるやろ(圧) ミクちゃんカバー聴いてミルグラム沼にハマった人間おるやろ？？おるよな()

@user-rr4cu7ys6x

3 жыл бұрын

( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉｶｴｯﾃｷﾀﾖ

@__9744

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-rr4cu7ys6x おかえり( ´∀｀(((

@user-fr5sl3fz6n

3 жыл бұрын

ハマってしまった... しかし後悔なんてする訳ない

@user-wg8to1hk7y

3 жыл бұрын

後者ですはい( ￣▽￣)

@user-em8qw4js3p

3 жыл бұрын

ハーイここにいまーす！

2:36 でみんなニヤッてするとこ好き

0:33 最初は違和感の塊だった 「フュー↑チャー↑」が好き、癖になる

エスの中の人である天海さんの歌唱力と演技力にも注目してぇ( ; ; ) 元の声けっこう高い方なのに中性的な声＋囚人一人一人に合わせた歌い方ってすごくないですか。

@user-hj1lz4ef1p

3 жыл бұрын

なんでですか

I just thought about it when reading the theory comments.. Maybe we’re the ones being tested? The Milgram experiment is something about obeying orders I guess . And we’re doing exactly what jacklope told us to do in the earlier videos. Watch the prisoners’ MVs and judge them, and most are doing as he told us to...

@ashewantsyourheart3581

3 жыл бұрын

it is heavily hinted that we are being the ones tested

@tvheadtrash_6936

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too! I also thought that maybe the prisoners were actors like in the original experiment :OO Just a thought!

@Kei-kf5ub

3 жыл бұрын

YeahOh Welp In real life, that’s the most likely answer~ But the votes aren’t asking “Guilty” or “Innocent” , in Japanese version , they’re asking if we would whether forgive them or not~ So I believe this is all to test peoples’ experience~ Most people tend to forgive the ones who went through similar to them so~ But I guess in real life they would have been given death penalty already as you said-- Edit- Typo

@moriiii4522

3 жыл бұрын

when you think about it, the rabbit told us to judge the prisoners without any explanation to why, or what would happen in the end. Es or any of the prisoners could get killed because of our votes for all we know yet we keep voting. The original experiment had 'a teacher', who would be the rabbit, a test subject, and an actor. If we're the ones being tested, then does that make the prisoners the actors..?

@GE-0530RN

3 жыл бұрын

@@tvheadtrash_6936 the prisoners after the 3rd trial: you've been fooled! we were paid actors this whole time! es who suffered so much controlling a bunch of 'murderers':

イントロでDECO*27を確信し 歌い始めでDECO*27を確信し サビでDECO*27を確信し ラスサビの転調でDECO*27を確信した 圧倒的DECO*27 フータが好きです(ﾎﾞｿｯ)

@user-nf2os6zv1p

4 жыл бұрын

ほんとDECO*27さんパネェってなりますよね... ハルカとアマネ好きです()

@user-hy5vz5uv7o

2 жыл бұрын

DECO*27さんの楽曲って神曲しかないから本当に凄いですよね… コトコが好きです(ﾎﾞｿｯ)

@user-wb3xz5vw2c

2 жыл бұрын

beco27さんの曲全部中毒性半端ない(アマネが好きです(

@huwarari9926

2 жыл бұрын

Decoさんの曲はどれも全部神やから皆聞いてくれよ… (シドウさんとハルカくんとカズイおじ コトコしゃまが推しですこすこ)

@xxx_ffo_39

2 жыл бұрын

全てが一緒で親近感を勝手に感じる

0:15〜床に落ちてる箱は10個…それぞれ囚人の(罪の)箱？ エスの横にも1個箱がある。最初エスが手に持ってた箱は000。エスにもナニかある…？

@user-xp9jz5wc4r

3 жыл бұрын

アンダーカバーがエスの心象なのかもね…

@Kamenrider40

3 жыл бұрын

それぞれのキャラの心情を現す歌を出すオルゴールじゃない？

@airimomoi9

Ай бұрын

Sは彼女ではなく、彼らです

Anyone else notice how Kazui seems to be the only one (with the exception of Yuno who's just holding a knife over Es's body, we don't see her harming them directly) who isn't touching the Es body in any sort of harmful way in the final sequence? Haruka has his hands around Es's throat, Futa is roughing Es up, Mu appears to be stabbing Es (its hard to tell?), Shidou looks as if he's physically ripping out an organ?? Mahiru is supporting Es's fallen body, however she does have her arms around their neck, symbolizing how she strangled her partner in their relationship with her overattachment. Amane is beating Es with a bat, Mikoto is beating Es from behind with a bat, and Kotoko is kicking Es (presumably to death). Kazui is on his knees, holding Es's body and seems to be in distress. Kazui seems to be the most innocent if you solely watch Undercover alone. With Undercover and Half, I still firmly hold Kazui innocent.

@Es-mv2mk

2 жыл бұрын

Yuno is aborting a baby lol

@dumbmonkey1313

2 жыл бұрын

Hey do you know where i can find these images because they go by too fast in the video and even when paused i cant make out all the details and cant see who's who (except kazui, that one was obvious)

@valina7561

2 жыл бұрын

@@dumbmonkey1313 you can slow down the video in settings

@matchari2712

2 жыл бұрын

something intresting to add, I saw a theory on twitter about how Futa might not have been directly the murderer, but was most likely scapegoated aswell as gaslighted into being a murderer, till he believed it himself. While he was part of the group, he was not the main person who caused the death of the person. You note that they are "roughing" es up, which doesnt mean they killed them, but did cause some damage. Haruka-well we saw the entire strangling his child self thing, whatever that means(murder,probably) Yuno-Abortion, presumably with a knife.(Not murder, unless you're one of those people who believe abortion is murder, or you live in a place where abortion IS murder.) Mu-well we saw that in the video.(murder) Shidou-Organs!(murder,unless you believe the theory that it wasnt directly organs he was taking, but rather knowledge on how to save a life, or whatever else he could be taking from a terminally ill patient or person in need of surgery.) Mahiru-Overattachment stuff(cause of death, but not murder) Amane-Cult shit (murder) Kazui-If we had to guess, Kazui did something that caused his wife stress to the point that they committed suicide. It might be cheating, or he might be working in a bar, or it might just be a normal lack of communication or Misunderstanding between them. (cause of death, but not murder) Mikoto-We saw that they obviously beat the fuck out of a person with a bat in like the first 10 seconds of the MV(murder) Kotoko-Well that video hasnt come out yet, but probably vigilante justice if i had to guess, probably killed.(murder)

@imkaito4568

2 жыл бұрын

@@matchari2712 Is it 100% abortion for Yuno. Because I don't remember exactly what's it called, but it's a type of manslaughter where a mother after giving birth because severely depressed and murder's her baby. It has a sentence of 5 years in Canada.

全く確定じゃないので分かんないんですけど ハルカで精神患者(考察から)だったら赦せる？ ユノで堕胎なら赦せる？ フータで間接的(追い詰めるみたいな)だったら赦せる？ ムウで正当防衛(?)だったら赦せる？ 後は幼かったら赦せる？とか別人格だったら赦せる？とか愛してたら赦せる？ みたいな、どういう人殺しなら赦せますか、どちらも人殺しなのに状況が違うだけで赦せるんですねっていうことだと思う(伝われ) 看守が許せる立場なのかどうかって誰かが言ってたからそう言うことだと思う みんなの殺し方っていうか動機が違いすぎて

皆考察してる中の私 ( ᐛ)「フューチャー」

@user-cx5so6op4u

4 жыл бұрын

不意打ちすぎて笑ったw

@dish8525

4 жыл бұрын

笑ったwww

@user-nc7yv3sh5h

4 жыл бұрын

待ってそれ私もですwww

@user-vz8up7zu9g

4 жыл бұрын

ちょうど見てたから吹いた‪w

@user-nf2os6zv1p

4 жыл бұрын

全く同じですwww

考察は後々頑張るので歌詞書きます。 アンダー 赦すなら共犯者 ひとりぼっち　愛を頂戴 アンダー 何かが足りないんだ 求め合う決まり　なんとかしたいフューチャー アンダー 罪からのかくれんぼ さぁ尻尾巻いて黙ってどうぞ アンダー 壊れたハート持って 痛いのはいつまで続くのかな 奪い合い"どうして"の精神解剖 間違い探しの延長線を 誰かを知って　愛で縛って 裁けるかな？ "嫌い"対"OK"の境界線を 我儘のまま終わっていいの？ すべてを知った　僕（あなた）はちゃんと赦せるかな？ アンダー どちらを選ぶんだ 騙されるほうか　騙すほうか アンダー 与えるだけじゃやーよ するのもされるのも　いいもの アンダー 夢ばかりみてるんだ もう半端ばっか　救えないな アンダー 信じるだけでいいの 約束を破る道理などない 奪い合い"どうして"の精神解剖 間違い探しの延長線を 誰かを知って　愛で縛って 裁けるかな？ "嫌い"対"OK"の境界線を 我儘のまま終わっていいの？ すべてを知った　僕（あなた）はちゃんと赦せるかな？ アンダー 嘘をつかないで 僕は何もないだろう？ アンダー 命を使って 消したいものがあるから 喰らい合い　敗者は先にどうぞ　 間違いだらけの冤罪だって 僕（あなた）はきっと　笑顔できっと 喜ぶでしょう 奪い合い"どうして"の精神解剖 間違い探しの延長線を 誰かを知って　愛で縛って 裁けるかな？ "嫌い"対"OK"の境界線を 我儘のまま終わっていいの？ すべてを知った　僕（あなた）はちゃんと赦せるかな？ 騙し合い消せないアンダー

コトコちゃんのボイスドラマでエスの最初の赦すなら共犯者の意味を理解した…エスが囚人にたいして自分なりに10人分の罪を自分のもののように背負って最後まで裁いていく覚悟あるのほんとにかっこいい

頼む。全囚人で合唱してくれ

@user-zr1jp6mf4d

2 жыл бұрын

最近ハマった者だけど提案が素晴らしすぎる

2:23のミコトの顔がなんか引っかかる。 二重人格or記憶喪失ならこの状況に疲れ切ってる顔ってことになるけど、もしも罪悪感感じない系のサイコパスなら、追求されてめんどくさいって感じがすごいする。

@Rain-dj6dw

4 жыл бұрын

さすがに考察にサイコパスふってくんのはないとおもうから何かあるんやと思う

@user-ry4df6ud7o

4 жыл бұрын

耳を触る時の心理は「他に関心がある」らしいです。（多分）

@SSR_777_zzz

3 жыл бұрын

cv花江夏樹だしね…（花江さんとばっちり）

考察に何となく役立ちそうな歌詞&セリフまとめ(一部他の動画のコメントをコピペさせて貰っています) 激長いので注意 ○ハルカ/櫻井 遥 「じゃ、じゃあどうすればよかったんだよ！どうすればさ…教えてよ、馬鹿な僕にもわかるようにさあ！」 アンダー 赦すなら共犯者 ひとりぼっち 愛を頂戴 ○ユノ/樫木 優乃 「はあ…めんどくさ。」 アンダー 何かが足りないんだ 求め合う決まり なんとかしたいフューチャー ○フータ/梶山 風汰 「なんでだよ(?)、俺だけじゃねえだろ、みんな面白がってただろうがよ！なんで、俺だけ…俺だけ責められなきゃいけねえんだよ！」 アンダー　罪からのかくれんぼ さあ尻尾巻いて黙ってどうぞ ○ムウ/楠 夢羽 「ふふふ…あなたが悪いんだよ…私に、酷いことするから…」 アンダー　壊れたハート持って 痛いのはいつまで続くのかな ○シドウ/桐崎 獅童 「ッハハハハ…ッハハハハ…確かに(?)死んでない…まだ、死んでないよ…今更わかったよ…俺が奪ったものの価値を」 アンダー　どちらを選ぶんだ 騙されるほうか　騙すほうか ○マヒル/椎奈 真昼 「これが…恋…？これが…！恋…！」 アンダー　与えるだけじゃやーよ するのもされるのも　いいもの ○カズイ/椋原 一威 「夢見ちまって…くだらねえっ！」 アンダー　夢ばかり見ているんだ もう半端ばっか　救えないな ○アマネ/桃瀬 遍 「アア！ごめんなさい！ごめんなさい！決まりを破ってごめんなさいっ！」 アンダー　信じるだけでいいの 約束を破る道理などない ○ミコト/榧野 尊 「僕の人生…こんなはずじゃなかったんだけどな…」 アンダー　嘘をつかないで 僕は何もないだろう？ ○コトコ/杠 琴子 「…フッ…気持ちいい…」 アンダー　命を使って 消したいものがあるから

@dish8525

4 жыл бұрын

ありがとうございます参考になります！！

@MINT_4

4 жыл бұрын

並べてみたら結構台詞と歌詞がリンクしてますね！！！ ありがとうございます！

@user-yf8qc4py8z

3 жыл бұрын

コトコよく見たら殺すときに笑ってますね，，，

@yoiyo1

3 жыл бұрын

@生田海輝 それな

ミクcoverから来た人へ ようこそ沼という名の監獄へ 看守デビューおめでとう

@user-xg8jw8dy3j

3 жыл бұрын

…て……けて……_(:3｣∠)_

@user-kn4lx3lp8q

3 жыл бұрын

看守デビューって言葉選びすこ

I think Es is the personification of their sins. If you look closely around 2:50 the person being hurt/murdered is always them, and Es could not possibly be murdered by all of them. For example, one of the silhouettes (which I understand is Mu) is holding a cutter against the victim, and in Mu's PV she murders a girl the same way. This is a bit of a strech but in Psychology 'Es' is the abreviation of Estimulous, something that changes the behaviour or makes someone react in a certain way. Maybe Es is called that way because they are the reason why the others are being judged, the "turning point" that it's going to determine the rest of their lives.

@ryan-sy3dl

3 жыл бұрын

I think that scene is just the prisoners committing their crimes but their victim is replaced with es. Also, might be a stretch but es is the German way to say id which might be a nod to the id ego and superego theory with how much the word ego is mentioned

@Someone-zn4dh

Жыл бұрын

I also noted that Yuno 'Es' is well...lying between her legs. Knowing her trial theme is "Abortion" and the people she killed is "Her Childrens". It's as if 'Es' become the representation of her babies

@user-zf7pq8fy5w

2 ай бұрын

"Es" means "id". To be a literal translation, "Es" means "it" or "the thing"

「僕(あなた)はちゃんと赦せるかな」 私たちは赦したい前提なの？ まあ、多分最後の曲が出るまで赦すことになるだろうけど(少なくとも私は) これからどうなるんだろうほんとうに楽しみ

OK so I'm a psychology student and i noticed a lot of references to popular psychological theories in this series. Of course the Prison or the whole project is called "MILGRAM", a study about authority. BUT that is not what i want to focus about in my little theory here. The prison guards name or "the audience" is called ES, which is the german word for Id in the outdated but still popular structural model of personality by Freud. He argues our psychological apparatus is made up of three parts, ID (Desires, repressed memories, etc.), the EGO (the mediator between Id and super-ego and the only aspect which has a connection to the outside world) and the super-ego (morals, oftentims restricting a lot of desires of the Id). In this song we are asked "You get to know them, tie them with THEIR Ego" and later on "Is it really okay to be done with deciding with just YOUR EGO?". This stood out for me, the EGO is the part that mediates, the part that lets through some desires, represses some cause of the super-ego etc. We - so our ego - decide upon the fates/who is forgiven or not. So maybe it is also a Test for the protagonist ES to decide which cases the super-ego finds okay or which cases don't. A Test of the EGO you might say, which tests ES desires to forgive/not forgive and their super-egos alignment. Because remember, the EGO is the one mediating between the Id/EGO and the super-ego. Because we still dont really know much about the prison guard ES itself. Maybe ES is tested upon their own morals using Freuds psychoanalytic understanding of our psychological structure. But these are just my ramblings i thought about watching this video. Sorry if this might sound confusing at times, English is my second language. :)

@Arcivand

2 жыл бұрын

And another thing, why do I notice this just now? Everytime a prisoner is shown there, Es says "UNDER", which would normally be something the Ego would do, the ego suppresses desires, not the ES. So its really intriguing why the so called ES here is seeing all these sins and is saying "under" (suppression). It doesn't Really fit in to the role of an ES and more of an ego. Oh im so interested into this whole project and how es relates to the characters or maybe - symbolizations of some type of sins? Archetypes of something the Es wants but is suppressed by something higher? Ah so many interesting possibilities. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but it's a really interesting project.

@juliet8131

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, i'm a psicology student too. Thank u, you are the only who talk about Freud's structural model of personalities and reading this i feel less alone lol, I thought i was the one who noticed that. I know i'm very late for this game but i found about it 3 days ago rip.

@nightlight2499

11 ай бұрын

This is so coolllllll

@nara9404

10 ай бұрын

Guess I'll read this two years later It did not need two years, we read about these concepts last week and now I understand your point

i just realized they changed the translations a bit for the prisoners part? they made it have a connection to their trial 1 song titles 0:25 [haruka] "if you say innocent, you're complicit and *weak* " 0:29 [yuno] "my *cord's* (umbilical cords) being pulled but nothing's ever enough" 0:47 [fuuta] " *bring it* , submit, and also shut your trap " 0:52 [muu] "the *pain's* still there, *after* all this time" 1:27 [shidou] "which way will you *throw down* your weight" 1:34 [mahiru] "giving and taking, *this is how to be in love* " 1:39 [kazui] " *half* in, *half* out, i'm doomed " 1:43 [amane] "the *magic* is in believing" 2:19 [mikoto] "don't you lie about *Me* . *Me* , i've done nothing wrong." 2:26 [kotoko] " *harrowing* , burying the thing i want erased" thought this was a fun detail!! though it's probably not as accurate to the og translation now

@Kay-gz8cv

11 ай бұрын

Yess!! I noticed that to!! and it sounds like the prisoners talking to es, like es is quoting them somehow

To be honest, I’m very interested in the past of Es, maybe more than any other prisoners’. Why is he given the opportunity to decide whether others are guilty, they could have chosen any other people, but why a person who forgot his past. Is his past somehow related to the prisoners? Did he commit any ‘crime’? One more thing, I tried searching ‘milgram’ and found out that it’s a psychology experiment. Let us not spend time going through the details, if this project is an imitation of the experience. Then probably, the person with power and authority is Jacklope. And Es will be the person obeying authority/subject. There are 2 possible roles for other prisoners, I think. Either they are just normal prisoners waiting for the judgement from Es. Or they are prisoners controlled by jacklope to encourage Es act in a certain way. In any cases, I feel like what we (Es) choose to do will affect not only the prisoners future, but also Es’ future. Moving out of the settings, this project may be an experiment itself, where we (listeners), are the subject. As till now, there is no exact conclusion from ‘milgram experiment’. Maybe they would like to find out how many people follow the society’s moral standard (a kind of authority that we usually perceive it as truth) in deciding whether others ore guilty. I’m just trying to organise my thoughts so that I could use it as a reference when the story goes on. But feel free to point out anything that you find it unacceptable. It would be good for me to listen to more analysis to make decisions

@mustikamilenia3948

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, i think so. Its still a mystery why they choose Milgram as their name. Also, Jackalope didnt reveal what will they do to the Guilty ones, maybe it can be that the guilty will be punished by Es? Or something like that. Its kinda freaks me out that this total music project is a mystery. I love it though

@mustikamilenia3948

3 жыл бұрын

Also i think the same as you, that this music project test us as a human, ruler, jury, and civilan. I mean, we can choose whether they are guilty or not from whatever point of view right? It can be from the laws (which is different among countries), tradition, moral issue, value issue (which is different among people), from psychological (in Haruka), maybe medical (like in Umbilical), and from their future if they had judged as guilty or not guilty

@Rednodge_9

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but how are they extracting memories and converting them to songs? like i know every single one of them is a bop but HOW? seems fake to me (i'm talking about the plot of course)

@PhatNguyen-ck6hl

3 жыл бұрын

is this a movie series or a novel or something cause I'm very interested in this story

@cherrywong2894

3 жыл бұрын

Phát Nguyễn I hope I ain’t explaining it wrongly. It’s actually a music project which the music is produced by DECO*27 and the story plot is written by Takuya Yamanaka. Songs are just part of the project, there are voice dramas as well which we could listen on Spotify I think. These provide us information related to the prisoners (those songs and dramas are actually a way for them to introduce what they have done,and clues could be found from both listening and watching the video) For us,we will be standing at Es’ point of view and our job is to decide whether the prisoners are guilty or not. By voting (using the official app of MILGRAM), we could make a change in the development of the story plot and affect the future of the prisoners. There are 3 rounds for us to vote, which means each prisoners will have 3 songs. There are actually even more details but I am afraid I would make mistake. That’s why it will be better for you to maybe check out the video in the channel that introduces the whole settings. I hope what I’ve said could give you a bit basic understanding of this whole project at least :)

各人物の姓名 1櫻井 遥（さくらい はるか） 2樫木 優乃（かしき ゆの） 3梶山 風汰（かじやま ふうた） 4楠 夢羽（くすのき むう） 5桐崎 獅童（きりさき しどう） 6椎名 真昼（しいな まひる） 7椋原 一威（むくはら かずい） 8桃瀬 遍（ももせ あまね） 9榧野 尊（かやの みこと） 10杠 琴子（ゆずりは ことこ） 部首がきへんなのは伏線だったりするのかな?

@ctrn5591

4 жыл бұрын

え、ホントだ

@user-yz5uc5iy9s

3 жыл бұрын

え、これ偶然じゃないよね…！？ よく見つけましたね…

@user-pd3ld1dh3u

3 жыл бұрын

あの…間違ってたら申し訳無いのですが「むわ」じゃなくて「むう」だと思います。

@stron3852

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-pd3ld1dh3u むうでした。修正しておきます

@user-so1xi1rv5e

3 жыл бұрын

気になったので木へんの意味を調べてみようとしました。そしたら出てきたのが「欺騙(きへん)」。 欺き騙すという意味でした。 「私たちは欺き騙している」とエス(リスナー)に伝えてるのかなと思いました (私考察伸びないのであとは誰かに託す)

赦さないを”嫌い”って表現するの、見てるだけのやつらの傲慢の極みで好き

2:38から（恐らく）エスに対して囚人たちが暴力を振るう様な描写があるのですが… これを見て何となく思ったのが、 実はエスも囚人たちと同じく罪を犯した事のある人で、 囚人たちが最終的に赦されるか赦されないかが決定した後、 エスの罪に関する曲が公開されて、 囚人たち若しくは視聴者たちによって赦すか赦さないかを決められるんじゃないかな…と。 もし、囚人たちによって裁かれるのであれば、 エスが囚人たちに対してどのような判断を下していたか、 それによって彼らがどのような経験をして、どのような心境の変化があったのか、 そんな要素から囚人たちが下す判断が変わってきて、 最終的にエスが赦されるか否かが決まりそうだなーって。 ただ、エスの罪が彼らを自分勝手に裁いていたことだったりしたら、 エスを通して判決を下していた私たちもまた、囚人たちによって裁かれることになるから… それもそれで面白そうだなと何となく妄想を…してしまいました…。

@user-kf4bl2np9o

Ай бұрын

もしエスが赦されたらまた記憶を消してミルグラムが行われたりするのかな…

囚人によってエスの歌い方が違うのかっこいいな 与えるだけじゃやーよのエスの歌い方がすごく好き

音楽も歌詞も凄いし、コメント欄の考察も凄いんだけど、 毎回サビ×人数分の１枚絵とアニメーションと伏線背景を描いてる絵師さんに尊敬しかない。

@auto-re

3 жыл бұрын

わかりみ

@user-hz3dh7ui9s

3 жыл бұрын

わかりみ

@sho4101

2 жыл бұрын

わかりみ深し尊臣秀吉

@user-fg9ej7ow1r

2 жыл бұрын

わかりみ不可思議

For whatever reason the lyrics were updated after nearly 3 years.... They aren't more accurate they just seem to have awkardly tried to fit the season 1 MV titles into the lyrics (which the Japanese lyrics didn't do?) Anyway, if anyone still wants to read the old lyrics they're up on the wiki

@jl8417

Жыл бұрын

I'll try copy pasting them here but youtube is funny about what it marks as spam: “UNDER” If you forgive this sin you’re as good as an accomplice I’m alone and lonely, please give me some love “UNDER” I feel the emptiness inside me We agreed to seek each other, I wish we could do something about it, FUTURE “UNDER” I am playing hide and seek from the sin I committed You should all give up and shut up “UNDER” I always have a broken heart When will it stop aching? “Scramble for life”, Dissecting our thoughts while asking “why” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with their EGO Can you really judge them? The border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? “UNDER” Which will you choose To deceive or to be deceived ”UNDER” I don’t just want to give Both giving and receiving are good things “UNDER” I keep on seeing dreams I am always indecisive, I can’t be saved NEW LYRICS “UNDER” If you say INNOCENT, you’re complicit and weak I’m so lonesome, please love me “UNDER” My cord’s being pulled but nothing’s ever enough Contractual desires, oh what to do, FUTURE “UNDER” Hiding and seeking from sin Bring it, submit, and also shut your trap “UNDER” Clutching a broken heart The pain’s still there, after all this time Take, grab, steal, dissect the thoughts of “Why” Looking for mistakes in overtime To know someone, to bind them in their EGO Can you really judge them? The fine line between “Hate” and “OK” Shouldn’t you look beyond your EGO, before it all ends? After knowing all, I wonder Can you really say INNOCENT? “UNDER” Which way will you throw down your weight To be the deceived, or the deceiver “UNDER” I don’t wanna just give Giving and taking, this is how to be in love “UNDER” I just keep on dreaming half in, half out, I’m doomed “UNDER” Just need to believe There is no reason to break a promise “Scramble for life”, Dissecting our thoughts while asking “why” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with their EGO Can you really judge them? The border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? “UNDER” Don’t lie about me, What did I do? “UNDER” Dedicating my life There is something I want to remove “Strife” Losers go on first A false accusation full of mistakes You would probably smile And be pleased “Scramble for life”, Dissecting our thoughts while asking “why” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with their EGO Can you really judge them? The border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? Deceit, “UNDER” That cannot be removed

@rosen_venus

Жыл бұрын

The subs on most of these vids suck so bad I honestly don't know what's going on. They either just take subs from anyone who comes forward with them or have the world's okay-est machine translator working for them

@jl8417

Жыл бұрын

@@rosen_venus I want to give the translator some credit, these lyrics are uh 'interesting' in ways that indicate a human touch instead of the incomprehensible mess of machine translation like even when it's confusing it's still a Choice That said I have no idea what they're going for

this singer went from thomas the train to this. this is absolutely incredible

@GE-0530RN

3 жыл бұрын

HOL UP WHAT

@kuri.

3 жыл бұрын

@@GE-0530RN yeah she was the seiyuu of thomas the train (idk if she is still the seiyuu of him tho) !!

@GE-0530RN

3 жыл бұрын

@@kuri. oh my goodness es the train es the train

@suredoeslikeexisting

Жыл бұрын

es the train

@sakumritsu

Жыл бұрын

WHAAAAAAT es the train???

2:08 Boy sitting on a bed in a children bedroom = Haruka Girl walking through an alley = Kotoko Girl standing idk what to write = Yuno Boy sleeping in front of a screen = Mikoto Someone taking a pic of a home = Futa Person lying on the ground = Amane Girl lying on the school floor = Muu Idk how to describe the this = Shidou Person kneeing outside = Kazui Holding hands idk = Mahiru

歌詞の“僕“の読み方は全部”あなた”でしたね エスって心理学で無意識だから、何かしらの私たちの“本能”が反映されてるのかな。 本能が人を裁くのか… 最後のサビの絵が、初めて裏側が見えた気がしていろんな意味で鳥肌たったよ…

@user-dv1pg6py5f

4 жыл бұрын

エスは主人公でありながら、我々視聴者の依代となる存在っていう設定ですよ！

@moyashi-

4 жыл бұрын

最後の絵エスが色んな囚人？に殺されてましたよね なんか考察が深まります

シドウのパートの｢騙される方か騙す方か｣って歌詞がすごく気になる ドラマトラックで尋問が行われる前に｢嘘はつかないつもり｣と言っているし終始冷静で誠実そうに見えるのにDECO*27さんの楽曲から彼がカバーしているのはライアーダンスだし、普段の様子とはかけ離れたかなりはっちゃけた歌い方をする どうして彼に嘘や騙す等といったキーワードがまとわりついているのか考えると、今まで出た情報のどこからどこまでに｢嘘｣の要素が含まれるのか本当に分からないのが怖くてたまらない…。

第三審のコトコの審査が終わった後に予告なしのエスの投票が来て、投票できるけど赦さないしかボタンがないとかって展開があったら最高… 実際、曲の終わり方とかも普通に囚人たちと同じだし。 エスは私たちの代役だから投票が無いってだけで実はこれが第一審なのでは？ ということは実は我々も誰かに裁かれてるってこと…？ 【追記】 プレイリスト、第一審扱いされてますね…

「喜ぶでしょう」のとこで皆がほくそ笑んでる？みたいなところの皆が写った最後、一瞬だけエスみたいな人がうつってるんだよなあ 囚人服を着たエスが。 追記 2:39

1:46 ここの真顔に戻る瞬間やべぇ

@na_4528

4 жыл бұрын

かわいい( ´ཫ`)👍(ワイは変態じゃないからな)

この曲ってエス目線の話なのよね？？ そうすると最後000って箱に書いてあるということは...まさかエスも囚人だったとか...？？

@user_gakusei

4 жыл бұрын

ジャッカロープのだれでも分かるミルグラムでも囚人部屋が11部屋あったり「忘れちまったのか？そっか、そうだったな」ってところからジャッカロープはエスについて何か知ってる？

@user-mz4pc8wk2c

4 жыл бұрын

ミルグラムのPVの最後にジャッカロープも000なんですけどＳも000なのは関係あるんですかね？ 謎が謎を呼んですごい楽しい‪w コメント失礼しました┏●

@user-tz3fh3sp3u

4 жыл бұрын

エスが元々囚人だった説は現在考察班の中でかなり可能性が高いと考えております

@user-vv1em8iw2i

4 жыл бұрын

Sは赦された囚人なのかなとか思ったり

@dish8525

4 жыл бұрын

柏木美穂 囚人部屋の数11なんですか？？

今まで公表されている曲を聴いてからそれぞれの囚人たちが1人ずつ登場する部分の歌詞を見ると「囚人たちのそれぞれの罪に関わるヒントかな」って最近思うようになった

Here is my theory that Es is one of the prisoners • At 2:39 we can see Es with a prisoner suit • The box that Es' holding have a number "000" • the room for prisoners have 11 rooms, 000 to 010 • while Es is sitting in these MV, there are 11 box around them. the other one is next near to them • in this music video, you can see that there no door iron bars for the prisoners, that means. Those full iron bars can be open by sliding it to the side or opening it to the top. Im not sure about this iron bars part because when I listened the Voice Drama of Es, before the prisoner's exit their rooms, there is this mechanical sound that can guess that these iron bars can be open by going it to top or sliding it by side - plus, Es mentioned that the room of 000 has no iron bars/lock that's what makes me think • And at the end of the MV, Es disappears and then Jackalope is the only one left, when the "000" box closed - probably mean that the box "000" is belong to a prisoner, and that is Es. I mean if its belong to Prison Guard, Jackalope should be disappear too I also have a theory that Es probably have connection with Mu • Because at Es' voice drama, while Jackalope introducing the prisoners to them. Es only remember Mu's name • Also before this MV ends, when Es' eyes get near, you can see Mu's reflection on

@timorysimon586

Жыл бұрын

Wait btw which vid is the one with muu and es being connected

@whatami2540

11 ай бұрын

@@timorysimon586 8 months late but i think they meant this one where muu is the last person to appear before the final scene with jackalope

2:08から、10枚のイラストが出てくるけどこれは10人の囚人に関するヒント？かな？ 1枚目→ハルカ 2枚目→コトコ 3枚目→ユノ 4枚目→ミコト 5枚目→アマネ 6枚目→フータ(？) 7枚目→ムウ 8枚目→シドウ 9枚目→カズイ(？) 10枚目→マヒル(？)

@user-tc8er4qw8j

4 жыл бұрын

ハルカ、コトコ、ユノ、ミコト、フータ、アマネ、ムウ、シドウ、カズイ、マヒルの順だと思われる。 だが、囚人番号で1.10.2.9.3.8.4.5.7.6になる。カズイとシドウが逆転してるのは謎なのか…

DECO*27さんは"歪んだ愛"をテーマの曲が多いと思うんだけど、今回もそれぞれ、"歪んだ愛"が絡み合ってるのかな？ いづれにせよ楽しみです！

@user-io6vd4lq4i

4 жыл бұрын

他の楽曲との関係性は否定されてます！ ですが、どの曲も、この曲もほんとにすごくいいですよね☺️

@user-no6kh7hi2c

4 жыл бұрын

確かに、1.54のところで 「愛で縛って」 とあるので何か関連している可能性が大きいと思います。

@huwarari9926

2 жыл бұрын

マヒルさんやシドウさんとかカズイおじも愛と関係あるし ユノもハルカくんもそうだしねムウもそうかも

I've seen a lot of theories about Es being the 11th prisonners, because at the beginning there are 11 boxes, representing the prisons, and he appears when Box 000 is opened. And then I thought about something. Jackalope or whatever told us to find the sins amongst the MVs, because they'd be there. That doesn't exclude Undercover, does it? What if we're not actually judging the prisoners? What if we're judging Es, by making him vote innocent or guilty? If he's a murderer, it brings a whole bunch of shades to the voting. Especially since he lost his memory. We're trying to save Es, not the prisoners. As a lot of Milgram's experiments theories have pointed out, supported by the theory that Es might be a criminal himself, I'd say the best course of action is to not vote. But it's too late. Haruka and Yuno are already judged innocent. Then what can we do? I'm so confused my brain is overheating but the Rabbit is definitively testing Es, and us. Whether anyone is guilty or innocent doesn't matter. The rules are "Watch the MVs and judge them". Es has an MV. Which would mean he's hiding his sins somewhere. And maybe, just maybe, Es pictures himself as the victims of the murderers' crimes as he distances himself from the role of murderer.

@Hi-rd1ok

3 жыл бұрын

There's still a chance to try the "no vote" tactic in the second and third trials (assuming that the results of the first one are not going to be carried over).

@bouchramed2681

Жыл бұрын

well the songs says rhat if you vote them innocent you're as good as an acompalice

見事にDECO*27さんの策略にハマった人です。 今出ている楽曲全て聞いて戻ってきました。 新参者ですが、これからどうぞよろしくお願いします。

Notice how Es has all the little boxes around them. Notice how there are ELEVEN, not ten. I wonder if one is for them.

@krobinson7755

4 жыл бұрын

The box Es opens at the beginning is labeled with "000." In the Welcome to MILGRAM video, we can see Es is also referred to as "000" there. Pretty interesting!

@chantolove

3 жыл бұрын

At the end, we’ll vote whether Es is guilty for sentencing everyone else and causing their deaths

@Desiree-9

2 жыл бұрын

@@chantolove That's probably the case

@JustMe-ox9cq

4 ай бұрын

Kotokos 2nd trial vid finally came out and she mentions a number 11 prisoner as inept guard, most likely referring to Es. So maybe Es is seen as a prisoner as well?

このレベルがあと30曲ぐらい出るんだろ？ 俺死ぬぜ？

@user-uu7pc3vo9w

4 жыл бұрын

一緒にお墓入りましょう(きもい)

@user-qq2mk9vn2d

4 жыл бұрын

いや、神に殺されるのならむしろ本望だ()

@an6226

4 жыл бұрын

皆さんでお墓に入りましょう( ˆᴘˆ )

@post8282

4 жыл бұрын

神すぎてもう逝くわ

@user-ys6gj7zj9d

4 жыл бұрын

大丈夫、すでに死んでます()

マヒルさんまで聞いてなんとなくこうなのかなって感じるのは、ハルカとユノ、フータとムウ、シドウとマヒルそれぞれが対になっているというか、共通するテーマか何かがあるのかなと感じた。個人的に、 ハルカとユノ→「母と子」親子間で何か問題があったり、事情があれば殺人は赦されるのか？ フータとムウ→「報い、報復」悪いことをしてる人は殺していいのか？ シドウとマヒルは→「愛」愛する人のため、自分の愛のためなら殺人は赦されるのか？ というようなかんじ。 ともあれ早く全員の曲聴きたい。

グルミクとのコラボで知り、この動画に辿り着きました もうイントロからビリビリ来ちゃいまして完全にこの曲に惚れてしまいミルグラムという作品への興味が止まりません 知れてよかった...

@huwarari9926

2 жыл бұрын

リリリリとミルグラムと全然違って逆にギャップあるし性癖に刺さる…っ！

注意：えげつない長文です。 返信もまとめて見ることをオススメします。 追記した部分は、これから[追記]と付けます。 最初からやっておけば良かった。。。 1:47 全員が苦しんでいる。 あちら側のエスは赦すつもりはないのですかね？ 2:08 恐らくハルカの部屋。 積み木、クレヨンの絵、ぬいぐるみ →心が子供のままor価値を感じて使い続けている or貧乏でこれぐらいしかない 2:09 恐らくコトコ 途方に暮れている感じですねぇ。 やはりフリーター？ ごめんなさい。この先はあんまりです。。。 2:44 恐らくハルカの殺害シーン 首を閉めている。なおかつ相手は同じぐらいの体格の男性(？)。握力が平均以上なんですかね？ いや？エスっぽい？ 2:45 恐らくユノ 上から刃物でひとつき······。 なぜ上を向く？ 2:46 恐らくフータ 目線が話しかけてるようにも見えなくない······。 でも、なぜこのタイミングで血しぶき？ フータ自身が刺していても、相手はぐったりしているのに、あんなに激しく出ますかね？ 2:54 順番的にムウ？ またがってる······。 それだけの関係にあったんですかね？ 刺殺とは断定できませんね。まさかの銃殺？ 2:56 恐らくシドウ 複数人っぽかったので、殺し屋とでも思いましたが·····。 それにしては、表情が必死過ぎる。しかも条件が対等に近い。 これが殺す価値を感じた相手ですかね？ 2:57 恐らくマヒル 殺して、恋にときめいたにしては、悲しみが深すぎる。 やはり、死に顔、遺体を持ち帰れないから？ だったら単独での犯行ですね。 遺体が笑ってる。 笑気ガス吸わせたか、はたまたは毒殺か。 3:00 恐らくカズイ 泣いてる？遺体を抱いて？くだらねぇって言ってたのに？ 遺体の方は、勝手な偏見ですが、腕、脚の曲がり方から、女性かな？ 3:02 恐らくアマネ 棒で殴り殺していますね。虐待に使われていたものでしょうか？ それなら、その傷は、アマネのどこにあります？ それに、帽子は？ランドセルは？ シドウなんか、ミルグラムの囚人服そのままなのに。 3:04 恐らくミコト バットで後ろから不意打ち。 なぜ、そんなに卑怯なんでしょう？ 二重人格説が多いですが、何かと陰湿っぽいところは、ボイストレーラーなどでも感じられると思いますが。 それに、殺して、なぜ自分の人生に嘆きますかね？ てっきり正当防衛かと思いましたが。 バットの振り下ろし方から、右利きと思われる。 唯一歌詞で透けない。何故？ 3:05 恐らくコトコ 蹴り殺してますね。 慣れてるのでしょうか。 そしたら、なぜ気持ちいい？ 今更感が半端ないんですが。 ｢命を使って消したいもの｣を消す時に笑顔になりますかね？ 立ち位置的にも、命の危険は冒してないと思いますが。 ガイシャがそれだけ悪いことをしていたなら、情状酌量や執行猶予ぐらいついて、｢命を使う｣にならないと思いますが。 あと、なぜガイシャが全部エス？ もしや、記憶喪失になる代わりに10人の記憶を少しばかり見れる超能力を手にいれた(もしくはジャッカロープにさせられた)とか？ そのガイシャ視点のエスと、最後に出てくるエスとも服装が違う。クローン？ そしたら、ユノの｢看守君一人｣と合わない。 観察力に優れる人はチラホラいますからね。 そんな危険を冒さないと思います。 部屋の形が一つ一つ違う。 何故わざわざそんな真似を？ そして、目盛りがある。 成長(更正？)を監視するのですかね？ はたまたは、ジャッカロープには、この目盛りが赦す赦さないを決める根拠なのかも。 もしかすると、これ、次に出てくる時に上下するかも。 また、一部の人は殺す時にガイシャの顔を見ていない。いや、見れない？ それに、何故囚人服？透けないためにしては、あからさま過ぎる。 それに、2:28の部分。 光の当たる割合が、身長に対して、多少違う気がします。 ハルカ：下半身から下、右半分 横の壁まで延びている。 ユノ：腹部のベルト辺り、左半分(ユノから見て左足の内側辺り) こちらも左に延びてるが、ハルカほどではない。 フータ：ハルカと同じく、下半身より下 しかし、左側の窪んでいる所と、背景の楽譜 にしか光が当たっていない。 ムウ：こちらも下半身ですが、 右半分に光が全く当たっていない。 見事に4分の1 シドウ：首より下から囚人服の裾まで、中央よりの右側 横まで延びていない マヒル：膝辺りから下、中央よりの右側 ちょうどシドウの暗かった下側の部分？ ※ここから少しアップになり、足と横が見えない。 カズイ：肩から下、左半分 アマネ：腹部辺り(ユノよりは上？)から下、完全に中央 ミコト：首から下、若干中央よりの右側 コトコ：腹部のベルトから下、若干中央よりの左側 [追記] 皆さん、アプリでの囚人同士の会話はご覧になっていますか？ 現時点で一番気になっているのは、シドウの最近煙草を吸い始めた、というところ。 シドウの考察には、安楽死させる医師というのが多いのですが、なぜ、医師になってから、煙草を吸い始めたのでしょう？気になりますねぇ。 (追記をまだまだ大量にすると思うので、よろしくお願いします。疑問や反論もウェルカムです。)

@user-sr8hg5uv2x

4 жыл бұрын

な、なるほど…すごい…考察楽しみにしてます！

@mameman.2

4 жыл бұрын

考察頑張ってください！

@1810na

4 жыл бұрын

考察ニキ…頼みます…

@user-lj5uz2fg7n

4 жыл бұрын

考察できるのすごい...((自分もできるようになりたい

@user-os4ef4zw1s

4 жыл бұрын

追記が見たいのでコメを残しておく| =͟͟͞͞( ◜ω◝ )

何かが足りないんだ→ゆのっぽさ だまってどーぞ→ふーたっぽさ 痛いのはいつまで続くのかな→ムウの被害者感っぽさ いいものっ♡→まひるの可愛さ 約束を破る道理などないっ→アマネの子供っぽさ 上手すぎん？

They changed the en sub lyrics so in case anyone's interested in the old ones, here they are! “UNDER” If you forgive this sin you’re as good as an accomplice I’m alone and lonely Please give me some love “UNDER” I feel the emptiness inside me We agreed to seek each other I wish we could do something about it Future “UNDER” I am playing hide and seek from the sin I committed You should all give up and shut up “UNDER” I always have a broken heart When will it stop aching? “Scramble for life” Dissecting our thoughts while asking, “why?” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with thеir- EGO Can you really judge them? Thе border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your- EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? “UNDER” Which will you choose To deceive or to be deceived ”UNDER” I don’t just want to give Both giving and receiving are good things “UNDER” I keep on seeing dreams I am always indecisive, I can’t be saved “UNDER” Just need to believe There is no reason to break a promise “Scramble for life” Dissecting our thoughts while asking, “why?” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with their- EGO Can you really judge them? The border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your- EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? “UNDER” Don’t lie about me What did I do? “UNDER” Dedicating my life There is something I want to remove “Strife” Losers go on first A false accusation full of mistakes You would probably smile And be pleased “Scramble for life” Dissecting our thoughts while asking, “why?” Looking for mistakes in overtime You get to know them and then tie them with their- EGO Can you really judge them? The border between “Hate” vs “OK” Is it really ok to be done with deciding with just your- EGO? Will you be able to forgive them after listening to their sins? Deceit “UNDER” That cannot be removed

@starlightparades

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@gondolaFGC

Жыл бұрын

Does anyone have a transcript of the new ones? :)

@liocchi0768

11 ай бұрын

I prefer this one than the new one since the voting isn't really innocent or guilty, the JP meaning is forgive or not forgive which the old script shows lol

I JUST REALIZED kazui (the oldest) is paired with the youngest member omggg also based on how it's shown, i feel like the last two are contrasting in ways where mikoto who takes 0 responsibility for his actions and kotoko who fully admits them

@Naynin

Жыл бұрын

Yupp, we can even go further because Futa is a cyber bully and Mu got bullied

@davidhwang5838

Жыл бұрын

@@Naynin Haruka was neglected by his mother, while Yuno was a neglecting mother

@ediciusreverse5584

Жыл бұрын

In that case, Haruka pleads to receive love, Yuno gets paid to give love. Futa, the bully, and Muu, the bullied. Shidou, the one who does everything to make sure his lover/family/whoever stays alive, while Mahiru (unknowingly) slowly kills her lover. I’m not sure about the other two pairs…

@starcanvas5380

Жыл бұрын

Kazui is the one that breaks promises whilst amane stays true to them

@Emannecalz

5 ай бұрын

from the future. Mikoto is confirmed to have DID and is *protected* by his alter, and kotoko is *protecting* "weak people" and es.

Ok so between the 2:08 and 2:16 we can see some scenes from each one of the prisoners, I went over them and I think i know who each one represents. Not much info can be extracted from each scene though, probably the foreshadowing will make more sense in future songs. We still can deduce some things if we connect the frames with the lyrics that appear with each one of them: 2:08 - Haruka (blue haired guy) "I'm alone and lonely, please give me some love" - Probably abused by someone in his household? 2:09 - Kotoko (girl w/ the piercings) "Dedicating my life, there is something i want to remove" - can't deduce much on this one 2:10 - Yuno (long-haired girl) "We agreed to seek each other, I wish we could do something about it" - Bad relationship? Heartbreak? 2:11 - Mikoto (guy w/ dyed hair) "Don't lie about me, what did I do?" - not much can be deduced from the lyrics, but he was probably overworked as hell in school 2:12 - Futa (delinquent guy) "I am playing hide and seek from the sin I committed. You should all give up and shut up" - Now this one's interesting, maybe the phone suggest he was stalking his victim? 2:12 - Amane (child) - "Just need to believe, there is no reason to break a promise" - literally no idea, but her dialogue in the voice PV is very cryptic and is always talking about "breaking the law".... what did this child even DO 2:13 - Mu (shy girl) - "I always have a broken heart, when will it stop aching?" - pairing it with her dialogue on the voice pv ("you have no idea what i've gone through") I think it's obvious she was bullied at school, maybe heartbreak too? 2:14 - Shidou (white haired guy) - "Which will you choose, to deceive or be deceived" - no idea what he did, but its obvious he deceived/was deceived by someone. Maybe he was a surgeon? 2:14 - Kazui (older guy) - "I keep on seeing dreams. I am always indecisive, I can't be saved" - We can't deduce what he did from this, but definitely how he felt 2:15 - Mahiru (happy blonde girl) - "I don't just want to give, both giving and receiving are good things" - Maybe she was in an abusive relationship where she felt she wasn't being loved back?? That's all i can deduce for now, but im really excited!! I can't wait to see how the next songs will play out!!

@stuffystuff24

4 жыл бұрын

Their was also scene that showed how they killed their victims but it was stencil so i could really tell but you could see some weapons and some of the environment at 2:39

@parasiticinvasion5370

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh I like your theories, my personal theory about Amane is that she was in a cult (specifically, her parents are in a cult and she was born into it). A few of her voice previews mention god, as well as breaking rules so I think that theory may be correct?? The poor kid probably was trying to protect herself without realising what she was doing. I also have a theory about Futa, my guess is that he's some rich kid who wants attention (there's honestly no basis for this besides his voice trailer mentioning that he'll sue Es for human rights violations, which seemed like a spoiled rich-kid thing to me), and that he committed his crime because he was trying to impress people (once again, no actual basis for this, but in his voice trailer he makes it very clear that whatever he did, it wasn't his fault). That's much more a stretch than my Amane theory, but it's all up for speculation at this point.

@pudding439

4 жыл бұрын

@@stuffystuff24 I found the stencil part interesting like some of the shadow figure things had more gaps in them than others so I'm guessing the more gaps there are, the more broken the person

@moobsoob530

4 жыл бұрын

im addicted to this song

@lordbepsi2121

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes I found the english comment

それぞれの｢アンダー｣の後の歌詞が前のやつの砂嵐のところのセリフとあってる感じあるよね

@user-di7ll2gl1m

4 жыл бұрын

なるほど！！！

@hmgu299

4 жыл бұрын

ミコトだけは違う気がします。

@na_4528

4 жыл бұрын

h mgu 違うっていうよりかは、ミコトだけ他の囚人達と比べて砂嵐のところのセリフが誰(もしくは何)に対して言っているのかが分かりにくいだけなのでは？(他にもセリフだけでは分かりにくい囚人もいますが年齢や性格でなんとなく予想はつくと思いますし...)どちらにせよこれから分かっていくだろうし、今はそれを楽しみにしときましょ！☺️

新曲が出る度に味が出てくる曲ですね 誰も三審目で「赦さない」になるれば「死刑」とは言ってないとこに注目してる 個人的に小説「6人の嘘つき」のような形でミルグラムも終結するのでは？と思ってたりする ここから本題 やっぱり何度も繰り返すサビに大事なことが隠れてるんじゃないかと考えます 考察↓↓ 看守=僕(エス)=私たち(視聴者、考察者) 『』←歌詞 ――サビ―― 『奪い合い “どうして”の精神解剖』 「殺した原因の責任」を被害者と囚人で擦り付け合う。原因〜事件〜裁判の囚人の記憶を曲や映像として落とし込み看守が「どうして」と考察する 『間違い探しの延長線を』 囚人サイドの主張の矛盾、粗を探す遊びみたいなもの。 『誰かを知って 愛で縛って 赦せるのかな？』 考察して知った気になって、囚人くん/ちゃんが好きとかそんなんで裁けるの？という嫌味皮肉。 『“嫌い”対“OK”の境界線を 我儘のまま終わっていいの？』 犯罪を「赦す」「赦さない」は個人の自己満や食わず嫌いの意見なのではないか。看守の意見は全て正義で間違ってないのか。 『すべてを知った 僕(あなた)はちゃんと 赦せるかな？』 判決が出た後に「すべて」がわかる曲を投下される可能性。 「ちゃんと赦せるかな？」より、「ちゃんと」というからには「赦す」というのが正しい道や正解、美徳とされている世界観？(子ども同士の喧嘩「ごめんね！！💢💢」「いいよ！！💢💢」みたいな)。 ――cメロ―― 『喰らい合い敗者は先にどうぞ』 囚人が囚人に対しての挑発文句？(この歌詞の意味よくわからなかった) 『間違いだらけの冤罪だって』 考察が行き届いていない可能性。間違った解釈がある。 もしくは、看守に全てを見せる(解かせる)気がない暗示 『僕らはきっと 笑顔できっと 喜ぶでしょう』 このミルグラムという「赦す」「赦さない」の三審制の投票が一つの心理実験だから、結果が出て看守やミルグラムの主催者が喜ぶ。 または、空想の世界だと知っているので結果が出て単に結末を知れて看守が喜ぶ 。 以上です

「アンダー～～…」のところ、人によって歌い方というか、声というか、ちょっとずづ変えてる?!すごい…！！

1:42のアマネちゃんのところ、｢信じるだけでいいの、約束破る道理などない｣って親の言うことは絶対、約束を破かなければ虐待されないってことなのでしょうか？泣けてくるのですが😭子どもには幸せになって欲しいものです

@user-ev8ms4sr4s

4 жыл бұрын

彼女は小6だろ？ さすがにやめたげて！ってなるよね😅

マジで… DECOさん凄過ぎ…

@user-ip9sy8ke4j

4 жыл бұрын

いろんな人に楽曲提供して、さらに自分の方でも曲をあげる…

I think I'm beginning to understand what the 11th cell is all about. We are going to judge Es last in the third trial. Kind of like a way of asking ourselves if we think we did a good job.

I just realized this but the lyrics after every "UNDER" is referencing the titles of each prisoners' first trial MVs Haruka's part mentioned the word "weak" which is a reference to his MV: Weakness Yuno's mentions a cord, which is a reference to the Umbilical Cord and Umbilical being her MV's title For Futa, it's "Bring it" for his MV "Bring it On" Mu's mentions "Pain" which is a direct reference to "After Pain" Shidou's is "Throw Down" which is in the lyrics and is also his MV's title And for Mahiru, it's "How to be in love" which is only missing the "with you" part in "How to be in love with you" her MV's title Next is Kazui's part which says "half in, half out" and his MV's title being "Half" Amane's is just "Magic" which is her MV's title as well Mikoto's "Don't you lie about Me Me, I've done nothing wrong" is a clever word play for his MV "MeMe" Kotoko's part says "Harrowing" which is in her MV's title "Harrow"

@sunnysideoflucie

Жыл бұрын

These were actually changed recently! Idk when but they were originally different

@yawn1919

Жыл бұрын

​@@sunnysideoflucie^^ they were changed yesterday

曲が全部出終わった後とかに アニメ化とかしないかなぁ… 曲では出なかった裏側とかアニメに取り入れたりとか… 自分的には最高なんやけどなぁ…

Imagine someone just stumbling onto this series with no context then they saw the comments--

@toast_cooked_bread

4 жыл бұрын

That's me. I spent like half an hour figuring out what the hell this is. Have to say it was worth it. This is a super cool idea/series. I'm excited to learn all their stories.

@kirstenchantalcasupang4120

4 жыл бұрын

@@toast_cooked_bread oh gods-- HAHAHAHA Glad you found it and are interested then cuz you can join the rest of us in this adventure of a series

@Hi-rd1ok

3 жыл бұрын

I was the same too lol. I just stumbled into Mu's video and thought it was simply a video about the bad effects of bullying. I was confused by the really long comments talking about stuff that I didn't even knew existed.

@lee-anne3045

3 жыл бұрын

im really confused at this point, I just came across one of the songs in my reccomended and ended up here. I guess I'll continue searching as it seems interesting

@Hi-rd1ok

3 жыл бұрын

@@lee-anne3045 Yeah, the whole story is confusing out of context if you just happened to be exposed to one the later videos. They can be easily be confused as one of those one-off Japanese songs. If you want more info on the series you can start off by watching the "Jackalope" video on this channel. It explains the gist of the whole premise.

You know, I've always wondered what it meant when they said "to decieve or to be decieved" for shidou's part

@Kazon_0_0_

Жыл бұрын

Shidou decieved the patients family while he was decieved by his family that he has to save his wife/whatever. Its shown in the mv that he is not sure in wanting neither: deciving the patients family and being decived by his family. (I think he said something like that in a questions that he no longer has a family since that person died, but it may have been Kazui idk) These lines are probably the aspects of the characters that Es relates to. I can explain all of that if someone wants to see it written down. Es is decived by us. Who knows what he really thinks, since he does as we say so. Without memories he can only build his morals on our opinions. Even if he developed some sense of justice along the way (probably didnt) he still has to think what we think. I dont think its good for him being here. And he decives the prisoners. If he sais that this person's sin is unforgivable/forgivable they will mostly belive it. None of the characters really disagreed yet. Fuuta mentioned that this is unfair, but from the side we voted Kotoko as innocent. He thinks agrees in that he is guilty. This answear was probably more than enough information lol. Shidou has a cover of Liar Dance, it probably has to do something with this line. I will look up the lyrics now. Edit: (only spelling corrections since i cant write)

I think this is the case of "bad person repents by punishing other bad people". That's why Es is undercover, they deserve to be in the same place, but because they took a deal they are now the one to punish others. SO EXCITED EEEE

I can't thank the official staff enough for adding the English subtitle

｢アンダー｣から続く歌詞がキャラ一人一人のことを指していて、しかもエス目線ではなく恐らくキャラ目線での心情？みたいに聴こえるんだなぁ もう何回も再生してる

i wish Milgram was a visual novel/rhythm game i could play, have Es be the player character and play thru all the music levels so i wouldnt have to wait for them all to come out! tho id still like to see what other players voted for concerning each character ofc

@kunkaan6248

2 жыл бұрын

actually, the songs are in the rhythm game D4DJ!

@memomemoca

2 жыл бұрын

MILGRAM songs was added in the Japanese version of D4DJ! Would recommend to play D4DJ eventhough the rate-up sucks

@se-lm6ef

2 жыл бұрын

they don’t have a visual novel but a novel has been released

@mybuttisburningLitteraly

Жыл бұрын

I'd pay for us to play as es

2:29 there’s a picture in the light. Also, does anyone find it interesting that the title is “Undercover”, meaning that at least one of the characters could just be pretending to be a criminal. If this is based on the Milgram experiment, Es or the other characters could pretend that they participating in this while in reality, they’re giving back info to whoever is in charge of this project.

最初のエスの後ろを走ってついて来るジャッカロープがくそ可愛い

控えめに言って… 神

ミクちゃんのcoverから来た人、 沼れ！！！！

@user-ct1ek8ps7v

3 жыл бұрын

元から沼ってたやつはどうすればいいんだ……… 潜ればいいのか(？)

@tsukkii6804

3 жыл бұрын

沼った！！！！！！！！ありがとう！！

@user-qj2gf8xm6t

3 жыл бұрын

@@NYYnnn 個人的に好きなのはアフターペインと弱肉共食です！ 考察した時怖かったのはアンビリカルです、

@user-xd7fd2qq8v

3 жыл бұрын

@@NYYnnn おまじないもおすすめですよ！ 私はこれが一番好きです！

i read the lyrics after everytime es says "UNDER" and i realized that the verses are referencing to every prisoners songs lol

看守が歌ってるの⁇ なんか看守からは出なさそうな声… 歌も良いし曲も良いし絵も良い✨ ↑簡単にまとめると神

エスがアンダーって言ってる時に囚人か誰かがアンダーって言ってる気がする……

@user-xm9is5yn8j

4 жыл бұрын

囚人が変わる事にその囚人のの声が後ろにいる気がします… アンダーって内側って意味もありますから、その囚人の内側というか裏側ってことを微かに伝えようとしてる……？ (ごめんなさい語彙力のごの字もないです)

@user-ww9es7pp1e

4 жыл бұрын

たぶん男性陣が映っている時の声は男性では無いので、あくまでエスが囚人になりきって歌っているのかな？ 歌詞もそれぞれの罪に関係してるっぽいので

@user-xm9is5yn8j

4 жыл бұрын

それは聞き落としてました、、、 それの可能性も全然ありますね…🤔 考察なんて初めてでダメダメでしたね笑 ありがとうございます🙏そのコメントも踏まえながらもう少しじっくり考えてみます！！

@user-ww9es7pp1e

4 жыл бұрын

かほ 全然ダメなんかじゃないですよ！考察は色んな意見があってこそなので… お互い頑張りましょ！

いつかそれぞれのパートとか、サビとかを全員に歌ってほしいな

ミクさんカバーからきました、、、、クオリティ高すぎませんか、、、、、、

@knkn_590

3 жыл бұрын

ミクさんcoverから来た方いらっしゃいませ！(？) どんどん沼りましょーね😊💖(((殴

@user-sp4ch6tt8w

3 жыл бұрын

@@knkn_590 ここのファンの人達優しくて好き… 早速全曲聞いて投票しました!!!!!

え、動いてる…凄い…凄い… 全員好きすぎて未だに推しが決められてない自分← イラストもかっこよすぎて立ち絵全てスクショしました🙋‍♀️

@post8282

4 жыл бұрын

わかる！！

僕はきっと笑顔できっと喜ぶでしょう、のとこ視聴者に対しての皮肉っぽくて好き

｢僕｣と書いて｢あなた｣って読むのなんでかなって思ったらこの曲が私達視聴者目線でもあるしエスくん目線でもあるからか…。 囚人に番号振られてるけど、エスくんも０番だよね？囚人説ある？

@user-lx7hh2hw9w

3 жыл бұрын

はい、エス0番目の囚人説はあります。ミルグラムの一番最初のドラパを聞けば詳しく分かりますよ！

that was actually such a banger oh my god 😭 UNDERR🗣️🗣️